Clikcing on Favorites Generates many TMP Files

S

Sandi Hardmeier - MVP

I'm tempted to use the URL to test if it actually works without McAfee
installed. I'm sure its not a publicly exposed URL.

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PA Bear said:
Mind you, the EULA states that only McAfee subscribers can/will be able to
use it.
--
~PA Bear
I'm not convinced of NAV's involvement, not when the files are pointing
to
the McAfee site...


PA Bear said:
Hang on, Sandi and I have been chatting about this and she may have a
fix for you. She's gonna chime in here.

[NAV's presence *might* have something to do with it but let's hold off
on that for now.]
--
~PA Bear

Ira wrote:
Hi PA Bear:

Yes. I can manually delete all those little files in TEMP folder.
They do not automatically return.. the rest of yuor summary below is
correct. The NAV seems fully functional.

These favorites are still in the original PC . I haven't yet exported
them.

When I simply highlight or click on items in the newly reorganized
Favorites in IE6, many similar files will appear in the TEMP folder,
though not necessarily the identical ones. I think I had reorganized
just about all the items in the favorites by creating those
subfolders
within the Favorites group.

Clicking on any link, even that same link happens to be in the
Favorites, does NOT engender such TEMP files as long as I dont click
on it FROM the Favorites.

For examplr, if I clcik on : http://snipurl.com/lrvo

it will NOT engender any such TEMP file.

Thanks again:

-Ira

***********************************

This thread so far in archive: http://snipurl.com/lrvo

Just to be clear, we're talking about files in C:\Windows\TEMP
<=this folder, in WinME which is fully up-to-date at Windows Update
and running a fully functional NAV 2004 with a current
subscriptions, right?

Can you manually delete all files in C:\Windows\TEMP <=this folder?

If you do so, do these strange files return?

From your first post:
I've recently arranged my IE favorites into folders for the
purpose of
exporting them to a new PC.

But this behavior is on the machine where you rearranged the links
&
folders, not on the machine to which you imported the Favorites,
right?
I now find that clicking on items in these folders generates many
TMP files in my TMP folder. They are small files, openable by
Microsoft Word, and only a few bytes in size. But many of these
are constantly generated to a point where much space is taken up.

Assuming you've been able to delete the files in that TEMP folder,
do new ones get created when you click on *any* link in Favorites
or just links you've arranged in the new folders?

If you click on a link in any post in this thread >
http://snipurl.com/lrvo < , is one of these strange files created
in
C:\Windows\TEMP <=this folder?

[Note to self: 823353 is installed.]
 
P

PA Bear

I couldn't get past the EULA here.
I'm tempted to use the URL to test if it actually works without McAfee
installed. I'm sure its not a publicly exposed URL.


PA Bear said:
Mind you, the EULA states that only McAfee subscribers can/will be able
to use it.
--
~PA Bear
I'm not convinced of NAV's involvement, not when the files are
pointing to
the McAfee site...


Hang on, Sandi and I have been chatting about this and she may have
a fix for you. She's gonna chime in here.

[NAV's presence *might* have something to do with it but let's hold
off on that for now.]
--
~PA Bear

Ira wrote:
Hi PA Bear:

Yes. I can manually delete all those little files in TEMP folder.
They do not automatically return.. the rest of yuor summary below
is correct. The NAV seems fully functional.

These favorites are still in the original PC . I haven't yet
exported them.

When I simply highlight or click on items in the newly reorganized
Favorites in IE6, many similar files will appear in the TEMP
folder, though not necessarily the identical ones. I think I had
reorganized just about all the items in the favorites by creating
those subfolders
within the Favorites group.

Clicking on any link, even that same link happens to be in the
Favorites, does NOT engender such TEMP files as long as I dont
click on it FROM the Favorites.

For examplr, if I clcik on : http://snipurl.com/lrvo

it will NOT engender any such TEMP file.

Thanks again:

-Ira

***********************************

This thread so far in archive: http://snipurl.com/lrvo

Just to be clear, we're talking about files in C:\Windows\TEMP
<=this folder, in WinME which is fully up-to-date at Windows
Update and running a fully functional NAV 2004 with a current
subscriptions, right?

Can you manually delete all files in C:\Windows\TEMP <=this
folder? If you do so, do these strange files return?

From your first post:
I've recently arranged my IE favorites into folders for the
purpose of
exporting them to a new PC.

But this behavior is on the machine where you rearranged the
links &
folders, not on the machine to which you imported the Favorites,
right?
I now find that clicking on items in these folders generates
many TMP files in my TMP folder. They are small files,
openable by Microsoft Word, and only a few bytes in size. But
many of these are constantly generated to a point where much
space is taken up.

Assuming you've been able to delete the files in that TEMP
folder, do new ones get created when you click on *any* link in
Favorites or just links you've arranged in the new folders?

If you click on a link in any post in this thread >
http://snipurl.com/lrvo < , is one of these strange files
created in
C:\Windows\TEMP <=this folder?

[Note to self: 823353 is installed.]
 
I

Ira

Hi there Sandi:

Thanks for trying to help:

That active X for McAfee had been long ago deleted. It's certainly not in my
Cache now.

I renamed that McAfee folder and sunbfolder in the Windows directory as you
advised.

It's possible that I may have submitted some email address and subscription
form prior to running that McAfee Free Scan. I'm certain I didn't install
any of their software, other than that Avert Stinger recommended by Noel ~2
days ago....long after the problem with those TMP files emerged.

After renaming those folders and rebooting, the problem of those TMP files
persists.

A typical file among the~ twenty TMP files that were just generated a
moment ago by my highlighting many of the Favorites reads:

<<<<
[DEFAULT]
BASEURL=http://www.jpost.com/

[InternetShortcut]
URL=http://www.jpost.com/
Modified=C06C54AC2FCBC101E8
IconFile=http://static.jpost.com/images/2002/site/favicon.ico
IconIndex=1
So the probelm still persists.

Thanks again for your efforts.


-Ira

***********************************
Ok, this is what I'd like you to try Ira.

From within IE go to tools, internet options, IE cache settings. Then click
on 'view objects'. Delete the activex control that was sure to be
downloaded as part of the McAfee online scan.

Then, rename the McAfee folder that you found in the Windows directory, and
its subfolder to be safe - don't delete it just yet.

I'm not convinced that moving the favorites directory was the cause of your
problems per se. McAfee has caused issues for WindowsME in the past -
anybody remember the OEM***.INF debacle?
 
N

Noel Paton

No problems here. Bear, in either ME or XPSP2

--
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Nil Carborundum Illegitemi
http://www.crashfixpc.com/millsrpch.htm

http://tinyurl.com/6oztj

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PA Bear said:
I couldn't get past the EULA here.
I'm tempted to use the URL to test if it actually works without McAfee
installed. I'm sure its not a publicly exposed URL.


PA Bear said:
Mind you, the EULA states that only McAfee subscribers can/will be able
to use it.
--
~PA Bear

Sandi Hardmeier - MVP wrote:
I'm not convinced of NAV's involvement, not when the files are
pointing to
the McAfee site...


Hang on, Sandi and I have been chatting about this and she may have
a fix for you. She's gonna chime in here.

[NAV's presence *might* have something to do with it but let's hold
off on that for now.]
--
~PA Bear

Ira wrote:
Hi PA Bear:

Yes. I can manually delete all those little files in TEMP folder.
They do not automatically return.. the rest of yuor summary below
is correct. The NAV seems fully functional.

These favorites are still in the original PC . I haven't yet
exported them.

When I simply highlight or click on items in the newly
reorganized
Favorites in IE6, many similar files will appear in the TEMP
folder, though not necessarily the identical ones. I think I had
reorganized just about all the items in the favorites by creating
those subfolders
within the Favorites group.

Clicking on any link, even that same link happens to be in the
Favorites, does NOT engender such TEMP files as long as I dont
click on it FROM the Favorites.

For examplr, if I clcik on : http://snipurl.com/lrvo

it will NOT engender any such TEMP file.

Thanks again:

-Ira

***********************************

This thread so far in archive: http://snipurl.com/lrvo

Just to be clear, we're talking about files in C:\Windows\TEMP
<=this folder, in WinME which is fully up-to-date at Windows
Update and running a fully functional NAV 2004 with a current
subscriptions, right?

Can you manually delete all files in C:\Windows\TEMP <=this
folder? If you do so, do these strange files return?

From your first post:
I've recently arranged my IE favorites into folders for the
purpose of
exporting them to a new PC.

But this behavior is on the machine where you rearranged the
links &
folders, not on the machine to which you imported the
Favorites,
right?
I now find that clicking on items in these folders generates
many TMP files in my TMP folder. They are small files,
openable by Microsoft Word, and only a few bytes in size. But
many of these are constantly generated to a point where much
space is taken up.

Assuming you've been able to delete the files in that TEMP
folder, do new ones get created when you click on *any* link in
Favorites or just links you've arranged in the new folders?

If you click on a link in any post in this thread >
http://snipurl.com/lrvo < , is one of these strange files
created in
C:\Windows\TEMP <=this folder?

[Note to self: 823353 is installed.]
 
N

Noel Paton

OEM***.INF was/is NAV's territory, Sandi!

--
Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2006, Windows)

Nil Carborundum Illegitemi
http://www.crashfixpc.com/millsrpch.htm

http://tinyurl.com/6oztj

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Sandi Hardmeier - MVP said:
<cue rider and horse galloping into view over the horizon>

<waving to PABear> Here friend, take the reins of the knightess in
shining armour's trusty steed will ya?

Ok, this is what I'd like you to try Ira.

From within IE go to tools, internet options, IE cache settings. Then
click on 'view objects'. Delete the activex control that was sure to be
downloaded as part of the McAfee online scan.

Then, rename the McAfee folder that you found in the Windows directory,
and its subfolder to be safe - don't delete it just yet.

I'm not convinced that moving the favorites directory was the cause of
your problems per se. McAfee has caused issues for WindowsME in the
past - anybody remember the OEM***.INF debacle?


--
__________________________________________
Sandi - Microsoft MVP since 1999
http://www.ie-vista.com
http://inetexplorer.mvps.org

Inetexplorer has changed - for instructions on how to
find old URLs, go here:
http://msmvps.com/spywaresucks/archive/2005/05/14/46971.aspx



Ira said:
Hi there:

I've recently arranged my IE favorites into folders for the purpose of
exporting them to a new PC.

I now find that clicking on items in these folders generates many TMP
files
in my TMP folder. They are small files, openable by Microsoft Word, and
only
a few bytes in size. But many of these are constantly generated to a
point
where much space is taken up.

A typical such file reads:

<<<<

[DEFAULT]
BASEURL=http://us.mcafee.com/root/mfs/default.asp

[InternetShortcut]
URL=http://us.mcafee.com/root/mfs/default.asp

IconFile=http://us.mcafee.com/favicon.ico
IconIndex=1

This does not happen when I click on bookmarks in my Yahoo Bookmarks
folder.
It only happens with the Favorites in my IE 6.0 browser.

What might be causing these .TMP files to be generated in such numbers?

How can i prevent this?

I have no viruses or spyware on my PC.

I use Windows ME

and

IE 6.0.2800.1106 SP1 with all Critical Updates installed

TIA

-Ira
 
N

Noel Paton

Sorry - I meant Norton System Doctor...
http://www.btinternet.com/~winnoel/quackfix.htm

--
Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2006, Windows)

Nil Carborundum Illegitemi
http://www.crashfixpc.com/millsrpch.htm

http://tinyurl.com/6oztj

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Noel Paton said:
OEM***.INF was/is NAV's territory, Sandi!

--
Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2006, Windows)

Nil Carborundum Illegitemi
http://www.crashfixpc.com/millsrpch.htm

http://tinyurl.com/6oztj

Please read on how to post messages to NG's
Sandi Hardmeier - MVP said:
<cue rider and horse galloping into view over the horizon>

<waving to PABear> Here friend, take the reins of the knightess in
shining armour's trusty steed will ya?

Ok, this is what I'd like you to try Ira.

From within IE go to tools, internet options, IE cache settings. Then
click on 'view objects'. Delete the activex control that was sure to be
downloaded as part of the McAfee online scan.

Then, rename the McAfee folder that you found in the Windows directory,
and its subfolder to be safe - don't delete it just yet.

I'm not convinced that moving the favorites directory was the cause of
your problems per se. McAfee has caused issues for WindowsME in the
past - anybody remember the OEM***.INF debacle?


--
__________________________________________
Sandi - Microsoft MVP since 1999
http://www.ie-vista.com
http://inetexplorer.mvps.org

Inetexplorer has changed - for instructions on how to
find old URLs, go here:
http://msmvps.com/spywaresucks/archive/2005/05/14/46971.aspx



Ira said:
Hi there:

I've recently arranged my IE favorites into folders for the purpose of
exporting them to a new PC.

I now find that clicking on items in these folders generates many TMP
files
in my TMP folder. They are small files, openable by Microsoft Word, and
only
a few bytes in size. But many of these are constantly generated to a
point
where much space is taken up.

A typical such file reads:

<<<<

[DEFAULT]
BASEURL=http://us.mcafee.com/root/mfs/default.asp

[InternetShortcut]
URL=http://us.mcafee.com/root/mfs/default.asp

IconFile=http://us.mcafee.com/favicon.ico
IconIndex=1



This does not happen when I click on bookmarks in my Yahoo Bookmarks
folder.
It only happens with the Favorites in my IE 6.0 browser.

What might be causing these .TMP files to be generated in such numbers?

How can i prevent this?

I have no viruses or spyware on my PC.

I use Windows ME

and

IE 6.0.2800.1106 SP1 with all Critical Updates installed

TIA

-Ira
 
S

Sandi Hardmeier - MVP

True. My bad.

McAfee
http://inetexplorer.mvps.org/data/mcafee.htm

Norton
http://inetexplorer.mvps.org/data/nsw.htm

--
__________________________________________
Sandi - Microsoft MVP since 1999
http://www.ie-vista.com
http://inetexplorer.mvps.org

Inetexplorer has changed - for instructions on how to
find old URLs, go here:
http://msmvps.com/spywaresucks/archive/2005/05/14/46971.aspx


Noel Paton said:
OEM***.INF was/is NAV's territory, Sandi!

--
Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2006, Windows)

Nil Carborundum Illegitemi
http://www.crashfixpc.com/millsrpch.htm

http://tinyurl.com/6oztj

Please read on how to post messages to NG's
Sandi Hardmeier - MVP said:
<cue rider and horse galloping into view over the horizon>

<waving to PABear> Here friend, take the reins of the knightess in
shining armour's trusty steed will ya?

Ok, this is what I'd like you to try Ira.

From within IE go to tools, internet options, IE cache settings. Then
click on 'view objects'. Delete the activex control that was sure to be
downloaded as part of the McAfee online scan.

Then, rename the McAfee folder that you found in the Windows directory,
and its subfolder to be safe - don't delete it just yet.

I'm not convinced that moving the favorites directory was the cause of
your problems per se. McAfee has caused issues for WindowsME in the
past - anybody remember the OEM***.INF debacle?


--
__________________________________________
Sandi - Microsoft MVP since 1999
http://www.ie-vista.com
http://inetexplorer.mvps.org

Inetexplorer has changed - for instructions on how to
find old URLs, go here:
http://msmvps.com/spywaresucks/archive/2005/05/14/46971.aspx



Ira said:
Hi there:

I've recently arranged my IE favorites into folders for the purpose of
exporting them to a new PC.

I now find that clicking on items in these folders generates many TMP
files
in my TMP folder. They are small files, openable by Microsoft Word, and
only
a few bytes in size. But many of these are constantly generated to a
point
where much space is taken up.

A typical such file reads:

<<<<

[DEFAULT]
BASEURL=http://us.mcafee.com/root/mfs/default.asp

[InternetShortcut]
URL=http://us.mcafee.com/root/mfs/default.asp

IconFile=http://us.mcafee.com/favicon.ico
IconIndex=1



This does not happen when I click on bookmarks in my Yahoo Bookmarks
folder.
It only happens with the Favorites in my IE 6.0 browser.

What might be causing these .TMP files to be generated in such numbers?

How can i prevent this?

I have no viruses or spyware on my PC.

I use Windows ME

and

IE 6.0.2800.1106 SP1 with all Critical Updates installed

TIA

-Ira
 
G

Guest

Hi Ira,

This is only a hunch, but do you have your temp (.tmp) files associated with
Microsoft Word?
If so, Word may be "helping" you by auto-saving .tmp files permanently in
your Temp folder for some reason.

An internet shortcut is actually a text document with very specific rules,
with a .url extension
(which is a hidden extension), and is editable by a text editor, such as
Word, Notepad, or Wordpad.
For example, using the Send To command, from the context menu (should any of
those editors be listed among your
Send To programs), by right-clicking on any of the files in your Favorites,
and sending it to an editor,
creates exactly the type of read-out of the ".tmp" file read-outs that
you're seeing, by opening the
internet shortcut as a text file.

To make a long story short, for the moment, Yahoo Bookmarks and shortcuts
(links) on a Web page,
while they all open with Internet Explorer, aren’t the same type of shortcut
as the shortcuts in your Favorites Folder
(which are individual files on your hard disk).

Anyway, if your .tmp files are showing a Word icon, instead of Window's
generic, non-associated icon,
try going to Control Panel > Folder Options > File types and highlight the
TMP listing under the extensions column,
and delete it. Click apply, and OK, to close the dialogue. (You might want
to re-open the File Types dialogue,
and make sure that the TMP extension is no longer listed).

Next, to be sure file types for Internet Explorer aren't screwed up, go,
again, to Control Panel > Add or Remove
Programs, and highlight Internet Explorer SP1 in the list. Click the
Repair/Remove button, and, in the next dialogue,
click the Repair radio-type option, and Apply. When it's finished, allow the
prompt to restart you computer.

My hunch, in other words, is that Word, if it's associated with TMP files,
is trying to catch and backup *.tmp files
as a text file and is putting them in the Temp folder in Windows, for lack
of a better place, so that you can
find them "rescued" through Office's Open Document... dialogue. Auto-saving
..doc files might be okay, but not .tmp files.

Again, sending any internet shortcut, which should either have a favicon
icon or a "blue-e-on-a-piece-of-paper" icon
("e" as in Internet Explorer's) to a text editor (by Send To or using
drag-and-drop) will create the
type of text document you're seeing in your Temp folder, so I don't think
it's a problem specific to another program,
such as McAfee, or a web page, such as the Jerusalem Post. They just happen
to be words in a *.url file.

I copied the text from your *.tmp files that you posted, pasted it into a
New Text Document via Notepad,
and saved the document as a *.url file (".url" being hidden by Windows after
the save), and created a valid internet
shortcut. Thus, I'm concluding that your .url and .tmp extensions, and
possibly other extensions, are haywire.

You may also have to re-register shdocvw.dll, but see if the above two fixes
won't work first, before trying re-registering that .dll.
I'm trying not to make my post too confusing, but this is an odd and
confusing problem!

I think, too, as a temporary fix, that if Word was closed, and you did a
CTRL_ALT_Del and ended the task osa.exe, these *.tmp
files might not be generated when you click to open a Favorite file.

Just a hunch.

Good Luck,
Dean-Dean






Ira said:
Hi there:

I've recently arranged my IE favorites into folders for the purpose of
exporting them to a new PC.

I now find that clicking on items in these folders generates many TMP files
in my TMP folder. They are small files, openable by Microsoft Word, and only
a few bytes in size. But many of these are constantly generated to a point
where much space is taken up.

A typical such file reads:

<<<<

[DEFAULT]
BASEURL=http://us.mcafee.com/root/mfs/default.asp

[InternetShortcut]
URL=http://us.mcafee.com/root/mfs/default.asp

IconFile=http://us.mcafee.com/favicon.ico
IconIndex=1

This does not happen when I click on bookmarks in my Yahoo Bookmarks folder.
It only happens with the Favorites in my IE 6.0 browser.

What might be causing these .TMP files to be generated in such numbers?

How can i prevent this?

I have no viruses or spyware on my PC.

I use Windows ME

and

IE 6.0.2800.1106 SP1 with all Critical Updates installed

TIA

-Ira
 
I

Ira

Hi Dean:

Thanks for your interest and explanation of this.

You wrote:

<<<<
Anyway, if your .tmp files are showing a Word icon, instead of Window's
| generic, non-associated icon,
| try going to Control Panel > Folder Options > File types and highlight the
| TMP listing under the extensions column,
| and delete it.
Yes, they're showing a Word icon in the TEMP folder, When I highlight this
file type, I'm told that it open with Microsoft word for Windows. I'm
hestiant to delete this, since I've seen files of this type appear in the
TEMP folder in more "legitimate" circumstances. . Do you think it would help
matters here if I were to designate another program to open such files? I do
have the option to :Edit file types at Control Panel-->Folder
Options--->File Types.

However, I don't konw how I might designate

"Window's
| generic, non-associated icon"

to be the icon associated with the TMP files, nor whether this is advisable.

If you think that would be the way to go, would you expalin the most
reliable --and least risky--way of doing this?

I don't get any kind of Text Editor when I right click on Send To....but I
think I understand what youre trying to explain here. I actually find it
interesting. Though the problem continues to vex and perplex...

I did try the IE SP 1 Repair from the Control Panel as you suggested, but it
didn't repair this problem.

Dean wrote:

<<<
I think, too, as a temporary fix, that if Word was closed, and you did a
| CTRL_ALT_Del and ended the task osa.exe, these *.tmp
| files might not be generated when you click to open a Favorite file.
I don't see the osa.exe task running when I do CTRL_ALT_DEL, not does this
task show up as runnning program at PC Pitstop's summary of such programs:

http://www.pcpitstop.com/spycheck/scan.asp


In any case, I appreciate your assistance and explanations on this matter.

-Ira

************************************





| Hi Ira,
|
| This is only a hunch, but do you have your temp (.tmp) files associated
with
| Microsoft Word?
| If so, Word may be "helping" you by auto-saving .tmp files permanently in
| your Temp folder for some reason.
|
| An internet shortcut is actually a text document with very specific rules,
| with a .url extension
| (which is a hidden extension), and is editable by a text editor, such as
| Word, Notepad, or Wordpad.
| For example, using the Send To command, from the context menu (should any
of
| those editors be listed among your
| Send To programs), by right-clicking on any of the files in your
Favorites,
| and sending it to an editor,
| creates exactly the type of read-out of the ".tmp" file read-outs that
| you're seeing, by opening the
| internet shortcut as a text file.
|
| To make a long story short, for the moment, Yahoo Bookmarks and shortcuts
| (links) on a Web page,
| while they all open with Internet Explorer, aren't the same type of
shortcut
| as the shortcuts in your Favorites Folder
| (which are individual files on your hard disk).
|
| Anyway, if your .tmp files are showing a Word icon, instead of Window's
| generic, non-associated icon,
| try going to Control Panel > Folder Options > File types and highlight the
| TMP listing under the extensions column,
| and delete it. Click apply, and OK, to close the dialogue. (You might
want
| to re-open the File Types dialogue,
| and make sure that the TMP extension is no longer listed).
|
| Next, to be sure file types for Internet Explorer aren't screwed up, go,
| again, to Control Panel > Add or Remove
| Programs, and highlight Internet Explorer SP1 in the list. Click the
| Repair/Remove button, and, in the next dialogue,
| click the Repair radio-type option, and Apply. When it's finished, allow
the
| prompt to restart you computer.
|
| My hunch, in other words, is that Word, if it's associated with TMP files,
| is trying to catch and backup *.tmp files
| as a text file and is putting them in the Temp folder in Windows, for lack
| of a better place, so that you can
| find them "rescued" through Office's Open Document... dialogue.
Auto-saving
| .doc files might be okay, but not .tmp files.
|
| Again, sending any internet shortcut, which should either have a favicon
| icon or a "blue-e-on-a-piece-of-paper" icon
| ("e" as in Internet Explorer's) to a text editor (by Send To or using
| drag-and-drop) will create the
| type of text document you're seeing in your Temp folder, so I don't think
| it's a problem specific to another program,
| such as McAfee, or a web page, such as the Jerusalem Post. They just
happen
| to be words in a *.url file.
|
| I copied the text from your *.tmp files that you posted, pasted it into a
| New Text Document via Notepad,
| and saved the document as a *.url file (".url" being hidden by Windows
after
| the save), and created a valid internet
| shortcut. Thus, I'm concluding that your .url and .tmp extensions, and
| possibly other extensions, are haywire.
|
| You may also have to re-register shdocvw.dll, but see if the above two
fixes
| won't work first, before trying re-registering that .dll.
| I'm trying not to make my post too confusing, but this is an odd and
| confusing problem!
|
| I think, too, as a temporary fix, that if Word was closed, and you did a
| CTRL_ALT_Del and ended the task osa.exe, these *.tmp
| files might not be generated when you click to open a Favorite file.
|
| Just a hunch.
|
| Good Luck,
| Dean-Dean
 
S

Sandi Hardmeier - MVP

<pondering>

Ok, so now we know that you are not just seeing McAfee URLs. That changes
the entire complexion of the problem.

--
__________________________________________
Sandi - Microsoft MVP since 1999
http://www.ie-vista.com
http://inetexplorer.mvps.org

Inetexplorer has changed - for instructions on how to
find old URLs, go here:
http://msmvps.com/spywaresucks/archive/2005/05/14/46971.aspx



Ira said:
Hi there Sandi:

Thanks for trying to help:

That active X for McAfee had been long ago deleted. It's certainly not in
my
Cache now.

I renamed that McAfee folder and sunbfolder in the Windows directory as
you
advised.

It's possible that I may have submitted some email address and
subscription
form prior to running that McAfee Free Scan. I'm certain I didn't install
any of their software, other than that Avert Stinger recommended by Noel
~2
days ago....long after the problem with those TMP files emerged.

After renaming those folders and rebooting, the problem of those TMP files
persists.

A typical file among the~ twenty TMP files that were just generated a
moment ago by my highlighting many of the Favorites reads:

<<<<
[DEFAULT]
BASEURL=http://www.jpost.com/

[InternetShortcut]
URL=http://www.jpost.com/
Modified=C06C54AC2FCBC101E8
IconFile=http://static.jpost.com/images/2002/site/favicon.ico
IconIndex=1
So the probelm still persists.

Thanks again for your efforts.


-Ira

***********************************
Ok, this is what I'd like you to try Ira.

From within IE go to tools, internet options, IE cache settings. Then
click
on 'view objects'. Delete the activex control that was sure to be
downloaded as part of the McAfee online scan.

Then, rename the McAfee folder that you found in the Windows directory,
and
its subfolder to be safe - don't delete it just yet.

I'm not convinced that moving the favorites directory was the cause of
your
problems per se. McAfee has caused issues for WindowsME in the past -
anybody remember the OEM***.INF debacle?


--
__________________________________________
Sandi - Microsoft MVP since 1999
http://www.ie-vista.com
http://inetexplorer.mvps.org
 
S

Sandi Hardmeier - MVP

TMP files should NOT be assigned to *any* file type; they can be created by,
and used by, any program on your PC. Delete the file type as advised and do
not associate any other program to that file type.

An IE repair will not fix file type associations specific to Word and
generic files like TMP files. The repair is specific to IE and will not
touch anything more system wide like file type associations that are not
specific to IE (eg: URL file type protocols... in fact, if my memory serves
me correctly, even URL file type protocols are not touched by an IE repair).

In short, there has been too much fiddling and too little understanding.
Somebody set TMP file types to be opened with Word incorrectly. We have no
way of knowing what else may have been mis-set.

--
__________________________________________
Sandi - Microsoft MVP since 1999
http://www.ie-vista.com
http://inetexplorer.mvps.org

Inetexplorer has changed - for instructions on how to
find old URLs, go here:
http://msmvps.com/spywaresucks/archive/2005/05/14/46971.aspx
 
I

Ira

Thanks Sandi:

Just to be sure I understand you:
..
You're suggesting I go to Folder Options.
Highlight the >TMP Extension-which is now associated with Word. Press
Delete?

This will have no negative impact on the functioning of Temp files?

TIA

-Ira
********************************

| TMP files should NOT be assigned to *any* file type; they can be created
by,
| and used by, any program on your PC. Delete the file type as advised and
do
| not associate any other program to that file type.
|
| An IE repair will not fix file type associations specific to Word and
| generic files like TMP files. The repair is specific to IE and will not
| touch anything more system wide like file type associations that are not
| specific to IE (eg: URL file type protocols... in fact, if my memory
serves
| me correctly, even URL file type protocols are not touched by an IE
repair).
|
| In short, there has been too much fiddling and too little understanding.
| Somebody set TMP file types to be opened with Word incorrectly. We have
no
| way of knowing what else may have been mis-set.
|
| --
| __________________________________________
| Sandi - Microsoft MVP since 1999
| http://www.ie-vista.com
| http://inetexplorer.mvps.org
|
| Inetexplorer has changed - for instructions on how to
| find old URLs, go here:
| http://msmvps.com/spywaresucks/archive/2005/05/14/46971.aspx
|
|
|
 
G

Guest

Hi Ira,

By deleting TMP as an extension opened by Word, through Control Panel >
Folder Options > File Types, Windows will assign the generic icon
automatically to *.tmp files. I've had both Windows 98 and Windows XP, both
with Office installed, and not seen *.tmp files associated with Word, or any
other program. In other words, when clicking on a file ending in .tmp, no
program should open automatically. TMP files are temporary files, and that
extension is used by many different programs. (Not to be confused with
temporary internet files, temporary program files are files used to store
data currently being worked on, or information to be swapped with the
operating system or other programs. Often .tmp files disappear after they're
used for whatever purpose a program created them; if not, they become
"debris" which can be deleted manually). Deleting TMP as an extension
through Control Panel > Folder Options > File Types will not prevent .tmp
files from being created for legitimate purposes, and no editing of actions
or assignment of icons is necessary. (TMP shouldn't be in the list of
extensions at all.) You can "peek" at created TMP files through such
programs as Notepad through drag-and-drop, among other means, but .tmp's
shouldn't be directly associated.

My point about .url's and viewing them in a text editor was to show you that
the .tmp items you are seeing in the TEMP folder are
actually internet shortcuts, renamed with a .tmp extension. My hunch was
that it is Microsoft Word doing this, because Word has auto-save
functionality with some of the extensions it's associated with, and is quite
capable of opening a text type file.

(The classic URL file format has a format similar to an INI file, and its
general classification is that of a Text file.)

Sample URL File, seen as a text file:

___________________________________


[DEFAULT]
BASEURL=http://www.someaddress.com/

[InternetShortcut]
URL=http://www.someaddress.com/

IconFile=C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM\url.dll
IconIndex=1

___________________________________


Like I said, auto-saving .doc files, for example, which Word is legitimately
associated with, is okay, but not .tmp files. I'm thinking that these .tmp
files, created when you click on a shortcut in the Favorites folder, will
hopefully disappear if Word is taken out of the equation. Anyway, you're
safe in deleting TMP as an extension with associations in File Types, and I'm
thinking there's a 50-50 chance
it might solve your problem. Note: After the deletion, if you do click on a
*.tmp file, you will see an "Open With" dialogue, allowing you to choose a
program to open the file, which you can do, just make sure the check-box
"always use this program to open this file" is NOT checked.

As to repairing IE, this will only repair functions associated with IE.
Description of the Internet Explorer Repair tool:

http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=194177

As the article states, the Repair Tool has a feature to fix problems that
are caused by the incorrect or incomplete registration of Internet Explorer
files. Doing this just verifies that IE has the files it needs, and is
functional, but won't address the fact that your Word program is associated
with TMP files, or shed light on how that happened. However, running the
tool won't hurt, and will help verify that IE's arena is ok. Your version of
Office might also have a repair option, for checking and repairing its own
files' integrity, but it may not fix the *.tmp file association enigma, since
Office doesn't assign associations to TMP files in the first place, and, like
the Internet Explorer Repair, only resets its own files' functionality,
probably ignoring anomalies like miss-associated files that aren't its own.

I hope all this is clear.
Good Luck,

Dean
 
I

Ira

Hi again:

I deleted that file association of .TMP files with Word, and they now have
that generic icon . They're no longer associated with any program

However, highlighting items form the Favorites folder continues to generate
..TMP files in the TEMP folder as before.

-Ira

****************************
| Hi Ira,
|
| By deleting TMP as an extension opened by Word, through Control Panel >
| Folder Options > File Types, Windows will assign the generic icon
| automatically to *.tmp files. I've had both Windows 98 and Windows XP,
both
| with Office installed, and not seen *.tmp files associated with Word, or
any
| other program. In other words, when clicking on a file ending in .tmp, no
| program should open automatically. TMP files are temporary files, and
that
| extension is used by many different programs. (Not to be confused with
| temporary internet files, temporary program files are files used to store
| data currently being worked on, or information to be swapped with the
| operating system or other programs. Often .tmp files disappear after
they're
| used for whatever purpose a program created them; if not, they become
| "debris" which can be deleted manually). Deleting TMP as an extension
| through Control Panel > Folder Options > File Types will not prevent .tmp
| files from being created for legitimate purposes, and no editing of
actions
| or assignment of icons is necessary. (TMP shouldn't be in the list of
| extensions at all.) You can "peek" at created TMP files through such
| programs as Notepad through drag-and-drop, among other means, but .tmp's
| shouldn't be directly associated.
|
| My point about .url's and viewing them in a text editor was to show you
that
| the .tmp items you are seeing in the TEMP folder are
| actually internet shortcuts, renamed with a .tmp extension. My hunch was
| that it is Microsoft Word doing this, because Word has auto-save
| functionality with some of the extensions it's associated with, and is
quite
| capable of opening a text type file.
|
| (The classic URL file format has a format similar to an INI file, and its
| general classification is that of a Text file.)
|
| Sample URL File, seen as a text file:
|
| ___________________________________
|
|
| [DEFAULT]
| BASEURL=http://www.someaddress.com/
|
| [InternetShortcut]
| URL=http://www.someaddress.com/
|
| IconFile=C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM\url.dll
| IconIndex=1
|
| ___________________________________
|
|
| Like I said, auto-saving .doc files, for example, which Word is
legitimately
| associated with, is okay, but not .tmp files. I'm thinking that these
..tmp
| files, created when you click on a shortcut in the Favorites folder, will
| hopefully disappear if Word is taken out of the equation. Anyway, you're
| safe in deleting TMP as an extension with associations in File Types, and
I'm
| thinking there's a 50-50 chance
| it might solve your problem. Note: After the deletion, if you do click on
a
| *.tmp file, you will see an "Open With" dialogue, allowing you to choose a
| program to open the file, which you can do, just make sure the check-box
| "always use this program to open this file" is NOT checked.
|
| As to repairing IE, this will only repair functions associated with IE.
| Description of the Internet Explorer Repair tool:
|
| http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=194177
|
| As the article states, the Repair Tool has a feature to fix problems that
| are caused by the incorrect or incomplete registration of Internet
Explorer
| files. Doing this just verifies that IE has the files it needs, and is
| functional, but won't address the fact that your Word program is
associated
| with TMP files, or shed light on how that happened. However, running the
| tool won't hurt, and will help verify that IE's arena is ok. Your version
of
| Office might also have a repair option, for checking and repairing its own
| files' integrity, but it may not fix the *.tmp file association enigma,
since
| Office doesn't assign associations to TMP files in the first place, and,
like
| the Internet Explorer Repair, only resets its own files' functionality,
| probably ignoring anomalies like miss-associated files that aren't its
own.
|
| I hope all this is clear.
| Good Luck,
|
| Dean
|
 
N

Noel Paton

That is correct
FWIW, I usually associate TMP files with Notepad - it's far safer to do so
if you regularly open then for inspection, as Word may run code within such
files, while notepad will not.

However, as Sandi says, generally there is no need whatever either to
associate TMP files with any application, or to open them at all. In theory,
TMP file only exist for the life of the application which created them, and
should be closed when that application closes, and deleted by that
application. There are certain deliberate exceptions to this rule - such as
data files relating to incomplete installs - but certainly, under almost any
circumstances, using Word to open TMP files is NOT a good thing!

--
Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2006, Windows)

Nil Carborundum Illegitemi
http://www.crashfixpc.com/millsrpch.htm

http://tinyurl.com/6oztj

Please read on how to post messages to NG's
 
N

Noel Paton

Have you rebooted yet?

--
Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2006, Windows)

Nil Carborundum Illegitemi
http://www.crashfixpc.com/millsrpch.htm

http://tinyurl.com/6oztj

Please read on how to post messages to NG's
Ira said:
Hi again:

I deleted that file association of .TMP files with Word, and they now
have
that generic icon . They're no longer associated with any program

However, highlighting items form the Favorites folder continues to
generate
.TMP files in the TEMP folder as before.

-Ira

****************************
| Hi Ira,
|
| By deleting TMP as an extension opened by Word, through Control Panel >
| Folder Options > File Types, Windows will assign the generic icon
| automatically to *.tmp files. I've had both Windows 98 and Windows XP,
both
| with Office installed, and not seen *.tmp files associated with Word, or
any
| other program. In other words, when clicking on a file ending in .tmp,
no
| program should open automatically. TMP files are temporary files, and
that
| extension is used by many different programs. (Not to be confused with
| temporary internet files, temporary program files are files used to
store
| data currently being worked on, or information to be swapped with the
| operating system or other programs. Often .tmp files disappear after
they're
| used for whatever purpose a program created them; if not, they become
| "debris" which can be deleted manually). Deleting TMP as an extension
| through Control Panel > Folder Options > File Types will not prevent
.tmp
| files from being created for legitimate purposes, and no editing of
actions
| or assignment of icons is necessary. (TMP shouldn't be in the list of
| extensions at all.) You can "peek" at created TMP files through such
| programs as Notepad through drag-and-drop, among other means, but .tmp's
| shouldn't be directly associated.
|
| My point about .url's and viewing them in a text editor was to show you
that
| the .tmp items you are seeing in the TEMP folder are
| actually internet shortcuts, renamed with a .tmp extension. My hunch
was
| that it is Microsoft Word doing this, because Word has auto-save
| functionality with some of the extensions it's associated with, and is
quite
| capable of opening a text type file.
|
| (The classic URL file format has a format similar to an INI file, and
its
| general classification is that of a Text file.)
|
| Sample URL File, seen as a text file:
|
| ___________________________________
|
|
| [DEFAULT]
| BASEURL=http://www.someaddress.com/
|
| [InternetShortcut]
| URL=http://www.someaddress.com/
|
| IconFile=C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM\url.dll
| IconIndex=1
|
| ___________________________________
|
|
| Like I said, auto-saving .doc files, for example, which Word is
legitimately
| associated with, is okay, but not .tmp files. I'm thinking that these
.tmp
| files, created when you click on a shortcut in the Favorites folder,
will
| hopefully disappear if Word is taken out of the equation. Anyway,
you're
| safe in deleting TMP as an extension with associations in File Types,
and
I'm
| thinking there's a 50-50 chance
| it might solve your problem. Note: After the deletion, if you do click
on
a
| *.tmp file, you will see an "Open With" dialogue, allowing you to choose
a
| program to open the file, which you can do, just make sure the check-box
| "always use this program to open this file" is NOT checked.
|
| As to repairing IE, this will only repair functions associated with IE.
| Description of the Internet Explorer Repair tool:
|
| http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=194177
|
| As the article states, the Repair Tool has a feature to fix problems
that
| are caused by the incorrect or incomplete registration of Internet
Explorer
| files. Doing this just verifies that IE has the files it needs, and is
| functional, but won't address the fact that your Word program is
associated
| with TMP files, or shed light on how that happened. However, running
the
| tool won't hurt, and will help verify that IE's arena is ok. Your
version
of
| Office might also have a repair option, for checking and repairing its
own
| files' integrity, but it may not fix the *.tmp file association enigma,
since
| Office doesn't assign associations to TMP files in the first place, and,
like
| the Internet Explorer Repair, only resets its own files' functionality,
| probably ignoring anomalies like miss-associated files that aren't its
own.
|
| I hope all this is clear.
| Good Luck,
|
| Dean
|
 
I

Ira

Yes, a number of times. Problem persists.

-Ira

******************************

| Have you rebooted yet?
|
| --
| Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2006, Windows)
|
| Nil Carborundum Illegitemi
| http://www.crashfixpc.com/millsrpch.htm
|
| http://tinyurl.com/6oztj
|
| Please read on how to post messages to NG's
| | > Hi again:
| >
| > I deleted that file association of .TMP files with Word, and they now
| > have
| > that generic icon . They're no longer associated with any program
| >
| > However, highlighting items form the Favorites folder continues to
| > generate
| > .TMP files in the TEMP folder as before.
| >
| > -Ira
| >
 
S

Sandi Hardmeier - MVP

I am certain there must be some sort of third party application causing this
issue; what autoload software do you have running? Antivirus? Crashguards?
Antispam? Other 'protective' software? Web accelerators?

--
__________________________________________
Sandi - Microsoft MVP since 1999
http://www.ie-vista.com
http://inetexplorer.mvps.org

Inetexplorer has changed - for instructions on how to
find old URLs, go here:
http://msmvps.com/spywaresucks/archive/2005/05/14/46971.aspx


Ira said:
Hi again:

I deleted that file association of .TMP files with Word, and they now
have
that generic icon . They're no longer associated with any program

However, highlighting items form the Favorites folder continues to
generate
.TMP files in the TEMP folder as before.

-Ira

****************************
| Hi Ira,
|
| By deleting TMP as an extension opened by Word, through Control Panel >
| Folder Options > File Types, Windows will assign the generic icon
| automatically to *.tmp files. I've had both Windows 98 and Windows XP,
both
| with Office installed, and not seen *.tmp files associated with Word, or
any
| other program. In other words, when clicking on a file ending in .tmp,
no
| program should open automatically. TMP files are temporary files, and
that
| extension is used by many different programs. (Not to be confused with
| temporary internet files, temporary program files are files used to
store
| data currently being worked on, or information to be swapped with the
| operating system or other programs. Often .tmp files disappear after
they're
| used for whatever purpose a program created them; if not, they become
| "debris" which can be deleted manually). Deleting TMP as an extension
| through Control Panel > Folder Options > File Types will not prevent
.tmp
| files from being created for legitimate purposes, and no editing of
actions
| or assignment of icons is necessary. (TMP shouldn't be in the list of
| extensions at all.) You can "peek" at created TMP files through such
| programs as Notepad through drag-and-drop, among other means, but .tmp's
| shouldn't be directly associated.
|
| My point about .url's and viewing them in a text editor was to show you
that
| the .tmp items you are seeing in the TEMP folder are
| actually internet shortcuts, renamed with a .tmp extension. My hunch
was
| that it is Microsoft Word doing this, because Word has auto-save
| functionality with some of the extensions it's associated with, and is
quite
| capable of opening a text type file.
|
| (The classic URL file format has a format similar to an INI file, and
its
| general classification is that of a Text file.)
|
| Sample URL File, seen as a text file:
|
| ___________________________________
|
|
| [DEFAULT]
| BASEURL=http://www.someaddress.com/
|
| [InternetShortcut]
| URL=http://www.someaddress.com/
|
| IconFile=C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM\url.dll
| IconIndex=1
|
| ___________________________________
|
|
| Like I said, auto-saving .doc files, for example, which Word is
legitimately
| associated with, is okay, but not .tmp files. I'm thinking that these
.tmp
| files, created when you click on a shortcut in the Favorites folder,
will
| hopefully disappear if Word is taken out of the equation. Anyway,
you're
| safe in deleting TMP as an extension with associations in File Types,
and
I'm
| thinking there's a 50-50 chance
| it might solve your problem. Note: After the deletion, if you do click
on
a
| *.tmp file, you will see an "Open With" dialogue, allowing you to choose
a
| program to open the file, which you can do, just make sure the check-box
| "always use this program to open this file" is NOT checked.
|
| As to repairing IE, this will only repair functions associated with IE.
| Description of the Internet Explorer Repair tool:
|
| http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=194177
|
| As the article states, the Repair Tool has a feature to fix problems
that
| are caused by the incorrect or incomplete registration of Internet
Explorer
| files. Doing this just verifies that IE has the files it needs, and is
| functional, but won't address the fact that your Word program is
associated
| with TMP files, or shed light on how that happened. However, running
the
| tool won't hurt, and will help verify that IE's arena is ok. Your
version
of
| Office might also have a repair option, for checking and repairing its
own
| files' integrity, but it may not fix the *.tmp file association enigma,
since
| Office doesn't assign associations to TMP files in the first place, and,
like
| the Internet Explorer Repair, only resets its own files' functionality,
| probably ignoring anomalies like miss-associated files that aren't its
own.
|
| I hope all this is clear.
| Good Luck,
|
| Dean
|
 
I

Ira

Hi Sandi:

Not sure exactly what u mean. I have very few running programs in the
background. This phenomenon occurs when I highlight favorite items even
while offline. I dont use any web accelerator.

I use the following Antivirus, Firewall, AntiSpyware, etc.

-Norton AntiVirus 2004

-Norton Personal Firewall 2003---ad blocking function is turned off.

-Yahoo Toolbar Pop-Up blocker

-CallWaveInternet Answering Machine---only logged in while online

-Spybot S&D 1.4 for periodic spyware scan----but not running in background

-AdAware S&E 1.06 --for periodic adware scans; not running in background

--CallWave Internet Answering Machine---only logged in while online

--Internat.exe---for switching keyboard languages.

No scan for viruses, spyware,trojans or adware in the past few weeks has
yielded anything other than a few tracking cookies.

--Ira

*********************************

| I am certain there must be some sort of third party application causing
this
| issue; what autoload software do you have running? Antivirus? Crashguards?
| Antispam? Other 'protective' software? Web accelerators?
|
| --
| __________________________________________
| Sandi - Microsoft MVP since 1999
| http://www.ie-vista.com
| http://inetexplorer.mvps.org
|
| Inetexplorer has changed - for instructions on how to
| find old URLs, go here:
| http://msmvps.com/spywaresucks/archive/2005/05/14/46971.aspx
|
 
S

Sandi Hardmeier - MVP

Disable all that software (enable the Windows Firewall before disabling
Norton firewall - if you don't have Windows firewall leave Norton firewall
enabled). Doesn't matter whether you're offline or online.

You have no other autoload software?

Test.
 

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