Clean XP install over old XP install

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Guest

A couple of years ago I upgraded my Dell from 98 to XP without doing a clean
install. Now that computer is going somewhere and I want to do a clena
install. I did all the steps, but got two error messages.

First - the version of windows you have is newer than the one on the CD -
which I ignored.

Second - there is no upgradable version of Windows on yourmachine.

I have long since deleted the old version of 98 that was saved on the
machine. How do I get my upgrade version of XP to do a clean install on this
machine?
 
G

Guest

Try uninstalling XP, then uninstalling Win 98,then reinstall Win 98 (if you
still have the disk/s) then reinstall XP.
 
G

Guest

Don't have the 98 disk. Threw it out a year ago when I was sure I'd never
need it again. Oh well. And besides, if I did have the disk, that would take
hours and hours.

Is there anything else I can try?

Peter
 
K

Ken Blake

In
Mark James said:
Try uninstalling XP, then uninstalling Win 98,then reinstall
Win 98
(if you still have the disk/s) then reinstall XP.
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No, it is not necessary to install the older version to do a
clean installation of XP with an upgrade version. The requirement
to use an upgrade version is to *own* a previous qualifying
version's installation CD (with an OEM restore CD, see below),
not to have it installed. When setup doesn't find a previous
qualifying version installed, it will prompt you to insert its CD
as proof of ownership. Just insert the previous version's CD, and
follow the prompts. Everything proceeds quite normally and quite
legitimately.


You can also do a clean install if you have an OEM restore CD of
a previous qualifying version. It's more complicated, but it
*can* be done. First restore from the Restore CD. Then run the XP
upgrade CD from within that restored system, and change from
Upgrade to New Install. When it asks where, press Esc to delete
the partition and start over.
 
G

Guest

I don't have either.

Peter

Ken Blake said:
In


No, it is not necessary to install the older version to do a
clean installation of XP with an upgrade version. The requirement
to use an upgrade version is to *own* a previous qualifying
version's installation CD (with an OEM restore CD, see below),
not to have it installed. When setup doesn't find a previous
qualifying version installed, it will prompt you to insert its CD
as proof of ownership. Just insert the previous version's CD, and
follow the prompts. Everything proceeds quite normally and quite
legitimately.


You can also do a clean install if you have an OEM restore CD of
a previous qualifying version. It's more complicated, but it
*can* be done. First restore from the Restore CD. Then run the XP
upgrade CD from within that restored system, and change from
Upgrade to New Install. When it asks where, press Esc to delete
the partition and start over.
Click to expand...
 
G

Guest

So, I'm looking at purchasing an XP Pro upgrade to make this work and I'm
finding XP Pro full versions for $50 - downloadable - and full versions in
the box for $110 - with COA - are these for real?

Peter

Peter
 
T

T. Waters

Basically, if you no longer have the old Win98 disk, you will have to get
hold of one. Or a Win 95 disk, for that matter. Just be sure it is not the
"upgrade," but the full version. Ask around. Some packrat friend of yours
still has one, probably.
Otherwise, you will not be able to sell your machine loaded with an OS.
 
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T. Waters

An XP Pro Upgrade plus the upgrade you already have will not get you a clean
install. You need to get a Win98 or Win 95 disk, full, not upgrade.

The products you mention *might* be for "real," but they are not legal, and
it would be pretty dishonest to pass such tainted goods along to the next
owner.They may not even have the key needed for Activation! Since these
cheap replicas come from eastern Europe mostly, you have no recourse as a
buyer if things turn out poorly.
 
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Mike Hall \(MS-MVP\)

Peter

A full retail version in a blue or green authentic Microsoft sealed box is a
good investment because:

#1.. you do not require pre-qualifying software
#2.. it is transferable to another computer
#3.. Microsoft directly support retail boxed software

The retail UPGRADE requires a CD containing qualifying software.. an OEM
Windows 98 CD is in this category..

Look at this site for what you can and can't do with the UPGRADE version..

http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/pro/upgrading/matrix.mspx

Buying cheap versions has pitfalls.. very often, they are OEM versions that
are NOT supported directly by Microsoft.. these versions are NOT
transferable to another machine.. these versions ONLY clean install.. ONLY
buy an OEM version if you are prepared to accept these limitations..

In the worst cases, cheap XP deals are pirated copies..

Caveat Emptor.. applicable to any transaction between a seller and consumer,
regardless of product type..



--
Mike Hall
MVP - Windows Shell/user
 
K

Ken Blake

In
Peter Young said:
I don't have either.
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Then you don't qualify to use the Upgrade CD cleanly.

The cheapest way to do what you want would be to buy a used copy
of Windows 98. They can be found for very little these days.
 
K

Ken Blake

In
Peter Young said:
So, I'm looking at purchasing an XP Pro upgrade to make this
work and
I'm finding XP Pro full versions for $50 - downloadable - and
full
versions in the box for $110 - with COA - are these for real?
Click to expand...


There are very much illegal, and you may have activation issues
with them (if you get anything at all). Any time you see a price
that's too good to be true, there has to be something wrong with
it.

Besides, that's a much more expensive choice than buying a used
copy of Windows 98, as I suggested in another message in this
thread moments ago.
 
K

Ken Blake

In
Peter Young said:
Don't have the 98 disk. Threw it out a year ago when I was sure
I'd
never need it again.
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It doesn't matter now, but just as a point of information for the
future, when you upgrade from one version to another (98 to XP,
in your case) the two licenses become bound together. You are
required to keep that older version's CD, and without it, you
don't have a valid license.
 
N

NobodyMan

It's been a long time since I worried about this, so I could very well
be wrong, but I thought that Win95 ----> WinXP wasn't a valid upgrade
path.
 
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Michael Stevens

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Michael Stevens

In
T. Waters said:
Basically, if you no longer have the old Win98 disk, you will have to
get hold of one. Or a Win 95 disk, for that matter. Just be sure it
is not the "upgrade," but the full version. Ask around. Some packrat
friend of yours still has one, probably.
Otherwise, you will not be able to sell your machine loaded with an
OS.
Click to expand...

The upgrade versions of 9x/Me will work as a qualifer.

--
Michael Stevens MS-MVP XP
(e-mail address removed)
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