Classic Start Menu


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wrytat

We have a workstation running on Windows XP Professional SP2, connected to a
Windows SBS 2003 server. There are 4 users using 4 different accounts with
this workstation. All of them prefer using the usual Start Menu, instead of
the Classic Start menu. Unfortunately, ONE of the users' Start Menu kept
"sticking to" the Classic menu. We tried changing it to the normal menu, but
after 2 or 3 days, it will go back to the Classic Start menu. The other users
do not experience this issue.

Is there any way to stop this? Thank you.
 
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Guest

If it was affecting all users then I would say a policy setting being pushed
out but then again it would take effect when that user logged in. So, it
seems that something is changine the HKEY_CURRENT_USER hive for that
individual user. What if you re-created their profile. Does the issue go
away? Try the following first:

START | RUN | Type 'regedit' & press ENTER

Navigate to:

HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Policies\Explorer

Create the DWORD value: NoSimpleStartMenu

Values:

XP Start Menu: 0
Classic Start Menu: 1

Restart your computer & ask that user to logon again. Problem solved or not?
 
T

Tim Meddick

I think "SPAMCOP user" meant to say the value should be 0 [zero] and not 1
like he actually stated (a small oversight I think) IF you are wanting the
XP style start menu and NOT the CLASSIC one.

SO:

REGEDIT4
[HKEY_CURRENT_USERSoftware\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Policies\Explorer]
"NoSimpleStartMenu"=dword:00000000

Also, a simpler way might be to 'force' the XP (not classic) start menu
on the machine in question via the Group Policy Editor found on the
'Administrative Tools' menu. Open the GPO editor and navigate to this
setting:

Local Computer Policy > User Configuration > Administrative Templates >
Start Menu and Taskbar

....then within this 'folder' there is a setting: "Force Classic Start Menu"
and set it to 'disabled'

This will force the system to display the Start Menu in the new XP
style no matter what else was set and force it to stay that way.

==



Cheers, Tim Meddick, Peckham, London. :)
 
G

Guest

Tim,

Force Classic Start Bar to disabled. By default it is NOT CONFIGURED meaning
not set

Also, in my original reply I said if you have XP Pro you can set the policy
otherwise you cannot except by making a registry entry

You are doing the policy setting as the local machine, but if part of the
domain then you need to use USER COMFIGURATION...

Why do you use the old Regedit4? We are no longer using Windows 98... so it
should be changed to:

Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00

Of course it still works with Regedit4 but technically it's not the old FAT
(95/98) versions of Windows any longer. If you want to split hairs saying
you can install XP as FAT then yes, you can but why would you want to?

--
SPAMCOP User




Tim Meddick said:
I think "SPAMCOP user" meant to say the value should be 0 [zero] and not 1
like he actually stated (a small oversight I think) IF you are wanting the
XP style start menu and NOT the CLASSIC one.

SO:

REGEDIT4
[HKEY_CURRENT_USERSoftware\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Policies\Explorer]
"NoSimpleStartMenu"=dword:00000000

Also, a simpler way might be to 'force' the XP (not classic) start menu
on the machine in question via the Group Policy Editor found on the
'Administrative Tools' menu. Open the GPO editor and navigate to this
setting:

Local Computer Policy > User Configuration > Administrative Templates >
Start Menu and Taskbar

...then within this 'folder' there is a setting: "Force Classic Start
Menu" and set it to 'disabled'

This will force the system to display the Start Menu in the new XP
style no matter what else was set and force it to stay that way.

==



Cheers, Tim Meddick, Peckham, London. :)


wrytat said:
We have a workstation running on Windows XP Professional SP2, connected
to a
Windows SBS 2003 server. There are 4 users using 4 different accounts
with
this workstation. All of them prefer using the usual Start Menu, instead
of
the Classic Start menu. Unfortunately, ONE of the users' Start Menu kept
"sticking to" the Classic menu. We tried changing it to the normal menu,
but
after 2 or 3 days, it will go back to the Classic Start menu. The other
users
do not experience this issue.

Is there any way to stop this? Thank you.
 
T

Tim Meddick

SPAMCOP User,
In your original reply you extolled the OP to
set this registry value:
HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Policies\Explorer

create the DWORD value: NoSimpleStartMenu

Values:

XP Start Menu: 0
Classic Start Menu: 1

.... but my point was this that you quoted was going to make the system SHOW
the CLASSIC start menu and that is NOT what the OP wanted, which WAS the new
XP style menu. Plus, I don't recognise those particular values and
question their validity.
I merely clarified the situation by quoting:

REGEDIT4
[HKEY_CURRENT_USERSoftware\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Policies\Explorer]
"NoSimpleStartMenu"=dword:00000000

....plus, if it's hair splitting you want, what else is it when you point out
the 'error' of using the outdated 'REGEDIT4' following your statement by
admitting it still works!! If it functions in XP then why are you
criticizing just for the sake of it?!

AND I don't care about the default state for the value I quoted, I merely
said that setting it to 'disabled' (manually or) through GPO editor will
FORCE the XP style menu (what the OP wants) and NOT the CLASSIC one.

Lastly, you say "but if part of the domain then you need to use USER
ONFIG" - there is no equivalent 'Start Menu' setting in User Configuration
ONLY in 'Computer Configuration' within the Group Policy Editor.

==


Cheers, Tim Meddick, Peckham, London. :)


SPAMCOP User said:
Tim,

Force Classic Start Bar to disabled. By default it is NOT CONFIGURED
meaning not set

Also, in my original reply I said if you have XP Pro you can set the
policy otherwise you cannot except by making a registry entry

You are doing the policy setting as the local machine, but if part of the
domain then you need to use USER COMFIGURATION...

Why do you use the old Regedit4? We are no longer using Windows 98... so
it should be changed to:

Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00

Of course it still works with Regedit4 but technically it's not the old
FAT (95/98) versions of Windows any longer. If you want to split hairs
saying you can install XP as FAT then yes, you can but why would you want
to?

--
SPAMCOP User




Tim Meddick said:
I think "SPAMCOP user" meant to say the value should be 0 [zero] and not 1
like he actually stated (a small oversight I think) IF you are wanting the
XP style start menu and NOT the CLASSIC one.

SO:

REGEDIT4
[HKEY_CURRENT_USERSoftware\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Policies\Explorer]
"NoSimpleStartMenu"=dword:00000000

Also, a simpler way might be to 'force' the XP (not classic) start
menu on the machine in question via the Group Policy Editor found on the
'Administrative Tools' menu. Open the GPO editor and navigate to this
setting:

Local Computer Policy > User Configuration > Administrative Templates >
Start Menu and Taskbar

...then within this 'folder' there is a setting: "Force Classic Start
Menu" and set it to 'disabled'

This will force the system to display the Start Menu in the new XP
style no matter what else was set and force it to stay that way.

==



Cheers, Tim Meddick, Peckham, London. :)


wrytat said:
We have a workstation running on Windows XP Professional SP2, connected
to a
Windows SBS 2003 server. There are 4 users using 4 different accounts
with
this workstation. All of them prefer using the usual Start Menu, instead
of
the Classic Start menu. Unfortunately, ONE of the users' Start Menu kept
"sticking to" the Classic menu. We tried changing it to the normal menu,
but
after 2 or 3 days, it will go back to the Classic Start menu. The other
users
do not experience this issue.

Is there any way to stop this? Thank you.
 
G

Guest

Tim,

When you are on the domain. Check the Default Domain Policy & then tell me
that there is no equivalent? I install servers daily & usually set this
value in the GPO

If you don't have access to a 2003 R2 or 2008 R2 domain controller then
check Technet

--
SPAMCOP User


Tim Meddick said:
SPAMCOP User,
In your original reply you extolled the OP to
set this registry value:
HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Policies\Explorer

create the DWORD value: NoSimpleStartMenu

Values:

XP Start Menu: 0
Classic Start Menu: 1

... but my point was this that you quoted was going to make the system
SHOW the CLASSIC start menu and that is NOT what the OP wanted, which WAS
the new XP style menu. Plus, I don't recognise those particular values
and question their validity.
I merely clarified the situation by quoting:

REGEDIT4
[HKEY_CURRENT_USERSoftware\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Policies\Explorer]
"NoSimpleStartMenu"=dword:00000000

...plus, if it's hair splitting you want, what else is it when you point
out the 'error' of using the outdated 'REGEDIT4' following your statement
by admitting it still works!! If it functions in XP then why are you
criticizing just for the sake of it?!

AND I don't care about the default state for the value I quoted, I merely
said that setting it to 'disabled' (manually or) through GPO editor will
FORCE the XP style menu (what the OP wants) and NOT the CLASSIC one.

Lastly, you say "but if part of the domain then you need to use USER
ONFIG" - there is no equivalent 'Start Menu' setting in User
Configuration ONLY in 'Computer Configuration' within the Group Policy
Editor.

==


Cheers, Tim Meddick, Peckham, London. :)


SPAMCOP User said:
Tim,

Force Classic Start Bar to disabled. By default it is NOT CONFIGURED
meaning not set

Also, in my original reply I said if you have XP Pro you can set the
policy otherwise you cannot except by making a registry entry

You are doing the policy setting as the local machine, but if part of the
domain then you need to use USER COMFIGURATION...

Why do you use the old Regedit4? We are no longer using Windows 98... so
it should be changed to:

Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00

Of course it still works with Regedit4 but technically it's not the old
FAT (95/98) versions of Windows any longer. If you want to split hairs
saying you can install XP as FAT then yes, you can but why would you want
to?

--
SPAMCOP User




Tim Meddick said:
I think "SPAMCOP user" meant to say the value should be 0 [zero] and not
1 like he actually stated (a small oversight I think) IF you are wanting
the XP style start menu and NOT the CLASSIC one.

SO:

REGEDIT4
[HKEY_CURRENT_USERSoftware\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Policies\Explorer]
"NoSimpleStartMenu"=dword:00000000

Also, a simpler way might be to 'force' the XP (not classic) start
menu on the machine in question via the Group Policy Editor found on the
'Administrative Tools' menu. Open the GPO editor and navigate to this
setting:

Local Computer Policy > User Configuration > Administrative Templates >
Start Menu and Taskbar

...then within this 'folder' there is a setting: "Force Classic Start
Menu" and set it to 'disabled'

This will force the system to display the Start Menu in the new XP
style no matter what else was set and force it to stay that way.

==



Cheers, Tim Meddick, Peckham, London. :)


We have a workstation running on Windows XP Professional SP2, connected
to a
Windows SBS 2003 server. There are 4 users using 4 different accounts
with
this workstation. All of them prefer using the usual Start Menu,
instead of
the Classic Start menu. Unfortunately, ONE of the users' Start Menu
kept
"sticking to" the Classic menu. We tried changing it to the normal
menu, but
after 2 or 3 days, it will go back to the Classic Start menu. The other
users
do not experience this issue.

Is there any way to stop this? Thank you.
 
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T

Tim Meddick

Do you not have any answers for the rest of it?

I may have got it wrong about the setting in domains, I'll have to check
that when I'm at work.

However, there is no equivalent setting in 'User Configuration' on my own
machine - which is not part of a domain, I admit.

==


Cheers, Tim Meddick, Peckham, London. :)


SPAMCOP User said:
Tim,

When you are on the domain. Check the Default Domain Policy & then tell me
that there is no equivalent? I install servers daily & usually set this
value in the GPO

If you don't have access to a 2003 R2 or 2008 R2 domain controller then
check Technet

--
SPAMCOP User


Tim Meddick said:
SPAMCOP User,
In your original reply you extolled the OP to
set this registry value:
HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Policies\Explorer

create the DWORD value: NoSimpleStartMenu

Values:

XP Start Menu: 0
Classic Start Menu: 1

... but my point was this that you quoted was going to make the system
SHOW the CLASSIC start menu and that is NOT what the OP wanted, which WAS
the new XP style menu. Plus, I don't recognise those particular values
and question their validity.
I merely clarified the situation by quoting:

REGEDIT4
[HKEY_CURRENT_USERSoftware\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Policies\Explorer]
"NoSimpleStartMenu"=dword:00000000

...plus, if it's hair splitting you want, what else is it when you point
out the 'error' of using the outdated 'REGEDIT4' following your statement
by admitting it still works!! If it functions in XP then why are you
criticizing just for the sake of it?!

AND I don't care about the default state for the value I quoted, I merely
said that setting it to 'disabled' (manually or) through GPO editor will
FORCE the XP style menu (what the OP wants) and NOT the CLASSIC one.

Lastly, you say "but if part of the domain then you need to use USER
ONFIG" - there is no equivalent 'Start Menu' setting in User
Configuration ONLY in 'Computer Configuration' within the Group Policy
Editor.

==


Cheers, Tim Meddick, Peckham, London. :)


SPAMCOP User said:
Tim,

Force Classic Start Bar to disabled. By default it is NOT CONFIGURED
meaning not set

Also, in my original reply I said if you have XP Pro you can set the
policy otherwise you cannot except by making a registry entry

You are doing the policy setting as the local machine, but if part of
the domain then you need to use USER COMFIGURATION...

Why do you use the old Regedit4? We are no longer using Windows 98... so
it should be changed to:

Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00

Of course it still works with Regedit4 but technically it's not the old
FAT (95/98) versions of Windows any longer. If you want to split hairs
saying you can install XP as FAT then yes, you can but why would you
want to?

--
SPAMCOP User




I think "SPAMCOP user" meant to say the value should be 0 [zero] and not
1 like he actually stated (a small oversight I think) IF you are wanting
the XP style start menu and NOT the CLASSIC one.

SO:

REGEDIT4
[HKEY_CURRENT_USERSoftware\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Policies\Explorer]
"NoSimpleStartMenu"=dword:00000000

Also, a simpler way might be to 'force' the XP (not classic) start
menu on the machine in question via the Group Policy Editor found on
the 'Administrative Tools' menu. Open the GPO editor and navigate to
this setting:

Local Computer Policy > User Configuration > Administrative Templates >
Start Menu and Taskbar

...then within this 'folder' there is a setting: "Force Classic Start
Menu" and set it to 'disabled'

This will force the system to display the Start Menu in the new XP
style no matter what else was set and force it to stay that way.

==



Cheers, Tim Meddick, Peckham, London. :)


We have a workstation running on Windows XP Professional SP2,
connected to a
Windows SBS 2003 server. There are 4 users using 4 different accounts
with
this workstation. All of them prefer using the usual Start Menu,
instead of
the Classic Start menu. Unfortunately, ONE of the users' Start Menu
kept
"sticking to" the Classic menu. We tried changing it to the normal
menu, but
after 2 or 3 days, it will go back to the Classic Start menu. The
other users
do not experience this issue.

Is there any way to stop this? Thank you.
 

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