Classic menu without using NoSimpleStartMenu?

[R.J.T. Plomp]

Hi,

I'm building an unattended XP installation. With these three registry keys
I'm able to setup my startmenu in Classicmode and with small icons:

[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Policies\Explorer]
"NoSimpleStartMenu"=dword:00000001

[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Explorer\Advanced]
"ClassicViewState"=dword:00000001

[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Explorer\StuckRects2]
"Settings"=hex:28,00,00,00,ff,ff,ff,ff,06,00,00,00,03,00,00,00,6b,00,00,00,22,\
00,00,00,00,00,00,00,8e,04,00,00,40,06,00,00,b0,04,00,00

The first forces the menu in classic mode, in fact the simple mode is not a
choice anymore in the GUI.

The second doesn't do much I think (not sure). But when I leave the first
key out, the second and third alone do nothing.

The nineth binary value in the StuckRects2 key sets the small icons mode for
the classic menu (derived that from earlier answers in this group)

What I don't like about this solution is that I'm not able to set the menu
back to simple mode anymore after applying this.

Does anyone have better solutions?

Regards,

Roland

 

[Wesley Vogel]

Roland,

NoSimpleStartMenu
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\
Policies\Explorer
and/or
HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\
Policies\Explorer
Disables the new simple Start menu and forces the Classic Start Menu.
Same as this >> Group Policy editor (Gpedit.msc)
User Configuration\Administrative Templates\Start Menu and Taskbar\Policy:
Disable the new simple Start Menu

ClassicViewState
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\
Explorer\Advanced
and/or
HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\
Explorer\Advanced
Enables or disables Explorer Thumbnail View. Has nothing to do with the
Start Menu.

HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\
Explorer\StuckRects2

Policy Settings for the Start Menu in Windows XP
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;292504


--
Hope this helps. Let us know.

Wes
MS-MVP Windows Shell/User

In

Hi,

I'm building an unattended XP installation. With these three registry keys
I'm able to setup my startmenu in Classicmode and with small icons:

[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Policies\Explor
er]

"NoSimpleStartMenu"=dword:00000001

[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Explorer\Advanc
ed]

"ClassicViewState"=dword:00000001

[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Explorer\StuckR
ects2]"Settings"=hex:28,00,00,00,ff,ff,ff,ff,06,00,00,00,03,00,00,00,6b,00,00,00,2
2,\
00,00,00,00,00,00,00,8e,04,00,00,40,06,00,00,b0,04,00,00

The first forces the menu in classic mode, in fact the simple mode is not
a choice anymore in the GUI.

The second doesn't do much I think (not sure). But when I leave the first
key out, the second and third alone do nothing.

The nineth binary value in the StuckRects2 key sets the small icons mode
for the classic menu (derived that from earlier answers in this group)

What I don't like about this solution is that I'm not able to set the menu
back to simple mode anymore after applying this.

Does anyone have better solutions?

Regards,

Roland

 

[R.J.T. Plomp]

Yup, anything helps. I'm getting ahead in this world of classics. Maybe I
should just get used to this new menu! ;-)

Vogel sounds like a Dutch name.. I hope I'm not making an effort on writing
this in my best English.. while all this time.. you're also understanding...
dankjewel!

Roland

Roland,

NoSimpleStartMenu
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\
Policies\Explorer
and/or
HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\
Policies\Explorer
Disables the new simple Start menu and forces the Classic Start Menu.
Same as this >> Group Policy editor (Gpedit.msc)
User Configuration\Administrative Templates\Start Menu and Taskbar\Policy:
Disable the new simple Start Menu

ClassicViewState
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\
Explorer\Advanced
and/or
HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\
Explorer\Advanced
Enables or disables Explorer Thumbnail View. Has nothing to do with the
Start Menu.

HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\
Explorer\StuckRects2

Policy Settings for the Start Menu in Windows XP
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;292504


--
Hope this helps. Let us know.

Wes
MS-MVP Windows Shell/User

In

Hi,

I'm building an unattended XP installation. With these three registry
keys
I'm able to setup my startmenu in Classicmode and with small icons:

[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Policies\Explor
er]

"NoSimpleStartMenu"=dword:00000001

[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Explorer\Advanc
ed]

"ClassicViewState"=dword:00000001

[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Explorer\StuckR
ects2]"Settings"=hex:28,00,00,00,ff,ff,ff,ff,06,00,00,00,03,00,00,00,6b,00,00,00,2
2,\
00,00,00,00,00,00,00,8e,04,00,00,40,06,00,00,b0,04,00,00

The first forces the menu in classic mode, in fact the simple mode is not
a choice anymore in the GUI.

The second doesn't do much I think (not sure). But when I leave the first
key out, the second and third alone do nothing.

The nineth binary value in the StuckRects2 key sets the small icons mode
for the classic menu (derived that from earlier answers in this group)

What I don't like about this solution is that I'm not able to set the
menu
back to simple mode anymore after applying this.

Does anyone have better solutions?

Regards,

Roland

 

[Wesley Vogel]

Hello daar Roland,

Vogel can be Dutch Swedish or German. It means bird in all three languages.
In my case it is German.

I just noticed the .nl in your E-mail address.

However, I lived in a little town in Northwest Iowa, Orange City. Town was
full of Dutch people. They even have a Tulip Festival every year. The
richest people in town were also named Vogel. They are Dutch and own five
paint factories. ;-)

[[Vogel Paint and Wax was started in 1926 by Andrew Vogel in Orange City,
Iowa. He had immigrated from Holland back around 1910 with his parents. His
father was also a painter and paper hanger in Holland. When Andrew moved to
northwest Iowa he began farming.]]
http://www.diamondvogel.com/WhoAreWe.html

The Orange City Tulip Festival
http://www.octulipfestival.com/

Welcome to Orange City, Iowa!
http://www.orangecityiowa.com/

This is a town where you holler, "Hey, Van." And everybody looks.

Just look at the list of surnames for Sioux County. Orange City is in Sioux
County. Scroll down to the Vs. Van..., Vande..., Vanden..., Vander...
http://www.rootsweb.com/~iasioux/surname/sur_tz.htm

Heck, the Ts are full of Te..., Ten... and Ter... Plenty of surnames ending
in sma also. One of my best friends was a Van Klompenburg. Speaking of
klompen, Orange City even has a wooden shoe factory.

--
Hope this helps. Let us know.

Wes
MS-MVP Windows Shell/User

In

Yup, anything helps. I'm getting ahead in this world of classics. Maybe I
should just get used to this new menu! ;-)

Vogel sounds like a Dutch name.. I hope I'm not making an effort on
writing this in my best English.. while all this time.. you're also
understanding... dankjewel!

Roland

Roland,

NoSimpleStartMenu
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\
Policies\Explorer
and/or
HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\
Policies\Explorer
Disables the new simple Start menu and forces the Classic Start Menu.
Same as this >> Group Policy editor (Gpedit.msc)
User Configuration\Administrative Templates\Start Menu and
Taskbar\Policy: Disable the new simple Start Menu

ClassicViewState
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\
Explorer\Advanced
and/or
HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\
Explorer\Advanced
Enables or disables Explorer Thumbnail View. Has nothing to do with the
Start Menu.

HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\
Explorer\StuckRects2

Policy Settings for the Start Menu in Windows XP
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;292504


--
Hope this helps. Let us know.

Wes
MS-MVP Windows Shell/User

In

Hi,

I'm building an unattended XP installation. With these three registry
keys
I'm able to setup my startmenu in Classicmode and with small icons:

[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Policies\Explor
er]

"NoSimpleStartMenu"=dword:00000001

[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Explorer\Advanc
ed]

"ClassicViewState"=dword:00000001

[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Explorer\StuckR
ects2] "Settings"=hex:28,00,00,00,ff,ff,ff,ff,06,00,00,00,03,00,00,00,6b,00,00,00,2
2,\

00,00,00,00,00,00,00,8e,04,00,00,40,06,00,00,b0,04,00,00

The first forces the menu in classic mode, in fact the simple mode is
not a choice anymore in the GUI.

The second doesn't do much I think (not sure). But when I leave the
first key out, the second and third alone do nothing.

The nineth binary value in the StuckRects2 key sets the small icons mode
for the classic menu (derived that from earlier answers in this group)

What I don't like about this solution is that I'm not able to set the
menu
back to simple mode anymore after applying this.

Does anyone have better solutions?

Regards,

Roland

 

[R.J.T. Plomp]

Okay then Birdman!

I know a lot of Dutch people try to maintain their culture abroad. In Canada
there are also lots of places where festivities like Sinterklaas still are
kept alive:

http://www-astro.physics.ox.ac.uk/~erik/sint/sint.html

Somehow being Dutch runs deep I guess. Somtimes it seems we are a sort of
native indians trying hard to keep alive our culture. Being truely Dutch
myself I'm not sure if it's worth that much.. lol

Anyhow. Nice meeting you.

Roland

Hello daar Roland,

Vogel can be Dutch Swedish or German. It means bird in all three
languages.
In my case it is German.

I just noticed the .nl in your E-mail address.

However, I lived in a little town in Northwest Iowa, Orange City. Town
was
full of Dutch people. They even have a Tulip Festival every year. The
richest people in town were also named Vogel. They are Dutch and own five
paint factories. ;-)

[[Vogel Paint and Wax was started in 1926 by Andrew Vogel in Orange City,
Iowa. He had immigrated from Holland back around 1910 with his parents.
His
father was also a painter and paper hanger in Holland. When Andrew moved
to
northwest Iowa he began farming.]]
http://www.diamondvogel.com/WhoAreWe.html

The Orange City Tulip Festival
http://www.octulipfestival.com/

Welcome to Orange City, Iowa!
http://www.orangecityiowa.com/

This is a town where you holler, "Hey, Van." And everybody looks.

Just look at the list of surnames for Sioux County. Orange City is in
Sioux
County. Scroll down to the Vs. Van..., Vande..., Vanden...,
Vander...
http://www.rootsweb.com/~iasioux/surname/sur_tz.htm

Heck, the Ts are full of Te..., Ten... and Ter... Plenty of surnames
ending
in sma also. One of my best friends was a Van Klompenburg. Speaking of
klompen, Orange City even has a wooden shoe factory.

--
Hope this helps. Let us know.

Wes
MS-MVP Windows Shell/User

In

Yup, anything helps. I'm getting ahead in this world of classics. Maybe I
should just get used to this new menu! ;-)

Vogel sounds like a Dutch name.. I hope I'm not making an effort on
writing this in my best English.. while all this time.. you're also
understanding... dankjewel!

Roland

Roland,

NoSimpleStartMenu
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\
Policies\Explorer
and/or
HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\
Policies\Explorer
Disables the new simple Start menu and forces the Classic Start Menu.
Same as this >> Group Policy editor (Gpedit.msc)
User Configuration\Administrative Templates\Start Menu and
Taskbar\Policy: Disable the new simple Start Menu

ClassicViewState
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\
Explorer\Advanced
and/or
HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\
Explorer\Advanced
Enables or disables Explorer Thumbnail View. Has nothing to do with the
Start Menu.

HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\
Explorer\StuckRects2

Policy Settings for the Start Menu in Windows XP
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;292504


--
Hope this helps. Let us know.

Wes
MS-MVP Windows Shell/User

In R.J.T. Plomp <[email protected]> hunted and pecked:
Hi,

I'm building an unattended XP installation. With these three registry
keys
I'm able to setup my startmenu in Classicmode and with small icons:


[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Policies\Explor
er]
"NoSimpleStartMenu"=dword:00000001


[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Explorer\Advanc
ed]
"ClassicViewState"=dword:00000001


[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Explorer\StuckR
ects2]

"Settings"=hex:28,00,00,00,ff,ff,ff,ff,06,00,00,00,03,00,00,00,6b,00,00,00,2
2,\
00,00,00,00,00,00,00,8e,04,00,00,40,06,00,00,b0,04,00,00

The first forces the menu in classic mode, in fact the simple mode is
not a choice anymore in the GUI.

The second doesn't do much I think (not sure). But when I leave the
first key out, the second and third alone do nothing.

The nineth binary value in the StuckRects2 key sets the small icons
mode
for the classic menu (derived that from earlier answers in this group)

What I don't like about this solution is that I'm not able to set the
menu
back to simple mode anymore after applying this.

Does anyone have better solutions?

Regards,

Roland

 

[Wesley Vogel]

He goes by the name of Santa Claus here. ;-)

--
Hope this helps. Let us know.

Wes
MS-MVP Windows Shell/User

In

Okay then Birdman!

I know a lot of Dutch people try to maintain their culture abroad. In
Canada there are also lots of places where festivities like Sinterklaas
still are kept alive:

http://www-astro.physics.ox.ac.uk/~erik/sint/sint.html

Somehow being Dutch runs deep I guess. Somtimes it seems we are a sort of
native indians trying hard to keep alive our culture. Being truely Dutch
myself I'm not sure if it's worth that much.. lol

Anyhow. Nice meeting you.

Roland

Hello daar Roland,

Vogel can be Dutch Swedish or German. It means bird in all three
languages.
In my case it is German.

I just noticed the .nl in your E-mail address.

However, I lived in a little town in Northwest Iowa, Orange City. Town
was
full of Dutch people. They even have a Tulip Festival every year. The
richest people in town were also named Vogel. They are Dutch and own
five paint factories. ;-)

[[Vogel Paint and Wax was started in 1926 by Andrew Vogel in Orange City,
Iowa. He had immigrated from Holland back around 1910 with his parents.
His
father was also a painter and paper hanger in Holland. When Andrew moved
to
northwest Iowa he began farming.]]
http://www.diamondvogel.com/WhoAreWe.html

The Orange City Tulip Festival
http://www.octulipfestival.com/

Welcome to Orange City, Iowa!
http://www.orangecityiowa.com/

This is a town where you holler, "Hey, Van." And everybody looks.

Just look at the list of surnames for Sioux County. Orange City is in
Sioux
County. Scroll down to the Vs. Van..., Vande..., Vanden...,
Vander...
http://www.rootsweb.com/~iasioux/surname/sur_tz.htm

Heck, the Ts are full of Te..., Ten... and Ter... Plenty of surnames
ending
in sma also. One of my best friends was a Van Klompenburg. Speaking of
klompen, Orange City even has a wooden shoe factory.

--
Hope this helps. Let us know.

Wes
MS-MVP Windows Shell/User

In

Yup, anything helps. I'm getting ahead in this world of classics. Maybe
I should just get used to this new menu! ;-)

Vogel sounds like a Dutch name.. I hope I'm not making an effort on
writing this in my best English.. while all this time.. you're also
understanding... dankjewel!

Roland


Roland,

NoSimpleStartMenu
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\
Policies\Explorer
and/or
HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\
Policies\Explorer
Disables the new simple Start menu and forces the Classic Start Menu.
Same as this >> Group Policy editor (Gpedit.msc)
User Configuration\Administrative Templates\Start Menu and
Taskbar\Policy: Disable the new simple Start Menu

ClassicViewState
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\
Explorer\Advanced
and/or
HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\
Explorer\Advanced
Enables or disables Explorer Thumbnail View. Has nothing to do with
the Start Menu.

HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\
Explorer\StuckRects2

Policy Settings for the Start Menu in Windows XP
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;292504


--
Hope this helps. Let us know.

Wes
MS-MVP Windows Shell/User

In R.J.T. Plomp <[email protected]> hunted and pecked:
Hi,

I'm building an unattended XP installation. With these three registry
keys
I'm able to setup my startmenu in Classicmode and with small icons:

[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Policies\Explor

er]
"NoSimpleStartMenu"=dword:00000001

[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Explorer\Advanc

ed]
"ClassicViewState"=dword:00000001

[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Explorer\StuckR

ects2]

"Settings"=hex:28,00,00,00,ff,ff,ff,ff,06,00,00,00,03,00,00,00,6b,00,00,00,2

2,\
00,00,00,00,00,00,00,8e,04,00,00,40,06,00,00,b0,04,00,00

The first forces the menu in classic mode, in fact the simple mode is
not a choice anymore in the GUI.

The second doesn't do much I think (not sure). But when I leave the
first key out, the second and third alone do nothing.

The nineth binary value in the StuckRects2 key sets the small icons
mode
for the classic menu (derived that from earlier answers in this group)

What I don't like about this solution is that I'm not able to set the
menu
back to simple mode anymore after applying this.

Does anyone have better solutions?

Regards,

Roland