chkdsk won't run on Restart

L

Lesley

XP Home SP2

I set chkdsk to Run but on Restart it goes straight into Windows

I have tried it both from C Drive Properties and the Command Prompt

autochk.exe is present in Windows\System32

fsutil dirty query c: gives Volume NOT Dirty - this is how it should be I
think?

The Registry Entry at
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\Control\Session
Manager\BootExecute gives...

autocheck autochk /p \??\C: autocheck autochk * - also how it should be?

I cannot Run it from the Recovery Console because I have only a
Manufacturer's Recovery CD

Any ideas pleas?

Would chkntfs /d do anything useful?

Thanks
 
N

nass

Lesley said:
XP Home SP2

I set chkdsk to Run but on Restart it goes straight into Windows

I have tried it both from C Drive Properties and the Command Prompt

autochk.exe is present in Windows\System32

fsutil dirty query c: gives Volume NOT Dirty - this is how it should be I
think?

The Registry Entry at
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\Control\Session
Manager\BootExecute gives...

autocheck autochk /p \??\C: autocheck autochk * - also how it should be?

I cannot Run it from the Recovery Console because I have only a
Manufacturer's Recovery CD

Any ideas pleas?

Would chkntfs /d do anything useful?

Thanks



This can happen if one of the following true:
1- Bad Hard drive
2- Asecurity Software running in real time Protection mode
3- A Viral infection on this machine.

We will start with resetting the CHKDSK to default by doing the follwoing:
Source:
http://technet.microsoft.com/en-gb/library/bb490877.aspx
Open run >> Type in:

chkntfs /d

Reboot and then try to run the chkdsk again and see if it will work on Boot
up.

- Try this reg fix:
NOte: Backup your regsitry before doing any fixing using any of the
recomended solutions.
http://www.kellys-korner-xp.com/regs_edits/enablecheckdisk.reg

=== Please code each code and save it as chkdsk.reg and chkdsk1.reg then
merge to your regsitry====

Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE \SYSTEM \CurrentControlSet \Control \Session
Manager]BootExecute = autocheck autochk *

==== End of code ============

==== Start of new code ========


Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\Session Manager]
"BootExecute"=hex(7):61,00,75,00,74,00,6f,00,63,00,68,00,65,00,63,00,6b,00,20,\
00,61,00,75,00,74,00,6f,00,63,00,68,00,6b,00,20,00,2a,00,00,00,00,00
"CriticalSectionTimeout"=dword:00278d00

=== End of code=====

If the above didn't help try to run this command:
sfc /scannow does it find any corrupt/damaged files/folders and does it
finishes the scan okay?

PageDefrag v2.32
http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/sysinternals/bb897426.aspx


Go through these Cleaning steps:
1... First, try to clean up your caches, Internet files and delete cookies
by doing this:
Click Start >> Control Panel >> Double click Network and Internet
Connections >> Double click Internet Options.
On the IE properties windows you will see these Tabs:
General | Security | Privacy | Content | Connections | Programs |
Advanced
Under General Tab clear your History, Internet Files and Cookies.
Then click on Advanced tab and scroll down to under the Browsing Option:
[&] Browsing
[ ] Enable Third-Party browser extensions (Req Rest) uncheck this box.
Then click on Programs Tab and click Manage Add-Ons and Disable all non
Verified Add-Ons (You should Renable them later one-by-one and see the
culprit and update it or remove it.
How to manage Add-Ons:
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/883256
install the free trial of Windows Live OneCare
http://onecare.live.com/standard/en-gb/default.htm
http://www.microsoft.com/mscorp/safety/technologies/onecare/default.mspx
Windows Defender detects and removes spyware
http://www.microsoft.com/windows/products/winfamily/defender/default.mspx
SuperAntispyware - Free
http://www.superantispyware.com/superantispywarefreevspro.html
Malwarebytes© Corporation - Anti-Malware
http://www.malwarebytes.org/mbam/program/mbam-setup.exe

Run a scan from here on-line:
http://security.symantec.com/sscv6/default.asp?langid=ie&venid=sym
http://www3.ca.com/securityadvisor/virusinfo/scan.aspx
Download Avast Cleaner (offline scanner) from here:
http://www.avast.com/eng/avast-virus-cleaner.html

HTH,
nass
 
L

Lesley

nass - thanks for your Reply

In answer...

I don't have a bad HDD

I don't have any security software running in real time protection mode

I don't have any Viruses

Re chkdsk /d - the settings as stated in my original question above are
already at default?

Kelly's Korner Fix - I don't think that Fix addresses the actual problem?

sfc /scannow - I have only a Manufacturer's Recovery CD - cannot run it
from there but even if I could, might it not do more harm than good?

Page Defrag - what would this do in relation to the problem? - the Windows
Defrag works ok

Cleaning steps - is all that necessary? - I have already done the usual
routine 'housekeeping' which you list first, I have no unusual Add-ons and I
have no Spyware

I was hoping there might be a relatively simple but evidently not

Thanks
 
N

nass

Sometimes one kind of security software will not pick up all the infections
if it does indeed exist!


Yes, you can run the SFC ?SCANNOW from the recovery CD, try it.

Or read the info below:
http://www.updatexp.com/scannow-sfc.html

Sometimes, we can be sure of things but it is really not as we think the way
it is.

Can you please send us the error messages from the event viewer and what
Security Software you have installed?
HTH,
nass
 
L

Lesley

nass - thanks for your reply

I don't want to Run sfc /scannow because - from past experience it causes
more problems than it's worth except in a dire situation

There is no Error Message in the Event Viewer because chkdsk doesn't run -
it doesn't even start - just goes straight into Windows

The only Security Software I have is Lavasoft's Adaware and AVG neither of
which are Set to Run at StartUp, I have had both of these for years and they
have caused no trouble with chkdsk

I can live without chkdsk unless there's a relatively simple solution
 
T

Twayne

Lesley said:
XP Home SP2

I set chkdsk to Run but on Restart it goes straight into Windows

I have tried it both from C Drive Properties and the Command Prompt

autochk.exe is present in Windows\System32

fsutil dirty query c: gives Volume NOT Dirty - this is how it
should be I think?

The Registry Entry at
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\Control\Session
Manager\BootExecute gives...

autocheck autochk /p \??\C: autocheck autochk * - also how it should
be?

I cannot Run it from the Recovery Console because I have only a
Manufacturer's Recovery CD

Any ideas pleas?

Would chkntfs /d do anything useful?

Thanks

Does chkdsk even work? Can you run it without flags? On another drive?
 
N

nass

If the System file checker causing broblem it means that the system not
stable and you need to prepare by backing up your important data.

Try to replace the chkdsk.exe in with a fresh copy from the recovery CD:

C:\Windows\System32

Download this software and install it then update the definitions and run
complete scan and let us know th result.
Malwarebytes© Corporation - Anti-Malware
http://www.malwarebytes.org/mbam/program/mbam-setup.exe

HTH,
nass
 
L

Lesley

Twayne - thanks for you interest

I have just run chkdsk - read only - from the Cmd Prompt - it found errors...

CHKDSK is verifying files (stage 1 of 3)...
File verification completed.
CHKDSK is verifying indexes (stage 2 of 3)...
Index verification completed.
CHKDSK is recovering lost files.
CHKDSK is verifying security descriptors (stag
Security descriptor verification completed.
CHKDSK discovered free space marked as allocat
master file table (MFT) bitmap.
Correcting errors in the Volume Bitmap.
Windows found problems with the file system.
Run CHKDSK with the /F (fix) option to correct

But if I then do chkdsk /f and Restart nothing happens - straight into Windows

chkdsk works ok on Drive D but it does it from within Windows with no
Restart - shows a Progress Bar and then 'Disk Check Complete'
 
N

nass

Lesley,

This error can happen if the NTFS Metafiles become corrupted.
Try to Run this command:
Open Run >> Type in: cmd.exe click [OK] type in the command prompt this:

chkntfs C:

If it came back Drive is not dirty, it means no problem on your HDD
How to locate and correct disk space problems on NTFS volumes
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/303079

Run this command from Recovery Console:

chkdsk /f /r

Description of the Windows XP Recovery Console for advanced users
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/q314058/

Finally, try to run the diagnostic tools from your Hard Drive manufacturer
website to see if it will report any error and how you can fix it.

Good luck.
nass
 
L

Lesley

nass

chkntfs C: gives the following...

The type of the file system is NTFS.
Chkdsk has been scheduled manually to run on next reboot
on volume C:.

However I have already used fsutil dirty query C: and it gives - the Volume
is NOT Dirty

I have only a manufacturer's Recovery CD and I don't think it has the
Recovery Console on it

I don't think there's anything wrong with the HDD itself since everything
else is working perfectly
 
N

nass

Lesley
Just to be sure, run the Manufacturer HDD diagnostic tols.

Read the link I provided earlier and you can install the RC and start it up.

Does the Mobo drivers up2dates from the Mobo manufacturer site.
 
T

Twayne

Lesley said:
nass

chkntfs C: gives the following...

The type of the file system is NTFS.
Chkdsk has been scheduled manually to run on next reboot
on volume C:.

However I have already used fsutil dirty query C: and it gives - the
Volume is NOT Dirty

I redall your saying that a few posts back. But, it would be wise to
rerun it again, just for GP's. Things change and it's possible it will
show as Dirty now, which sends you to a slightly different correction
path.
I have only a manufacturer's Recovery CD and I don't think it has the
Recovery Console on it

I would personall be pretty surprised if you do not have the Recovery
Console available. BTW, you're not likely to find it by looking at
filenames; IIRC it is not a separate, standalone file. nass would know
these things better than I.
I don't think there's anything wrong with the HDD itself since
everything else is working perfectly

From a personal standpoint, I would try to follow nass's advice to the
letter if it were me with the problem. I always watch for his posts
because he seldom leaves a poster hanging and seems to always get a
handle on problems. I can't remember the last time he failed a person
that was willing to work with him. Honest.

You almost sound like you're about to let it all go from your comment
about how everything else is working and there are no problems apparent.
IMO that would be a mistake because if you DO have file table problems,
system area corruption, whatever, it may well suddenly jump up and byte
you right in the exit port of your pants<g>.
At a minimum, I would suggest the very first thing you should do is
backup any and all important data on the drive. Be sure to remember
bookmarks, favorites, e-mails, favorite downloaded programs etc. too.
Then run the manufacturer's diagnostics (free) for your drive and see
what comes of it. Those are pretty thorough as a rule and don't leave a
lot to chance. You'll get very good information from it.
Then implement a backup routine and stick to it for all time to come.
Done right, even if the disk goes south, you'll always be able to get
back up and running without losing more than a few hours worth of work.
Of courese if you don't value any of the data, well, then nothing to
worry about. That's a decision only you can make.

I suspect that until you run that mfr's diags, there isn't much more
anyone can do to help you. I find it strange that chkdsk runs well
without flags but crashes when you do use a flag.
The Recover Console, BTW, expose a new flag; p I think it is, that's
only available from the console. I'm not sure what the difference is,
but IIRC it had more power to it than the other flags.

I don't recall the virus and spyware status of your machine, but for any
of the advice to work, it has to be as known clean as you can make it.
That means having run update AV and at least 3 good anti spyware
programs against the drive, all updated and all full scans. If it's not
as known clean as is possible for you, then most all of the advice you
get/got isn't necessarily going to do anything of value.

It's also possible the problem isn't actually chkdsk OR the drive. It
could still be something else simply showing up with chkdsk.

If you come back with further informatioin/questions, you should also
indicate just what that recovery disk you have is called and perhaps a
few folder names that are on the disk, along with your computer brand,
etc., even if you've already stated t hem once.

HTH,

Twayne
 
D

db

what you will likely need
to do is to run a chkdsk
at the disk system level
and before the o.s. boots.

however, the problem is that
you only have the recovery
cd's and these won't help.

further, the option that microsoft
provides requires floppy disks,
but these are becoming instinct.

so you might try to borrow a
winxp cd from someone so
that you can use it to launch
the repair/recovery console
in order to get to a disk prompt
and run the chkdsk command.

or perhaps make a bootable cd
with tools via some freeware
might help get you to a disk
prompt to initiate commands.

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L

Lesley

Thank you all for your suggestions

In the end I solved it myself by doing a System Restore - back just 9 days

I then did chkdsk - read only - and there were no Errors found

Just to make sure it was working ok I did chkdsk /f and it worked perfectly
as it always has

What happened in those 9 days to cause the problem I've no idea although I
do remember a Power Outage not so long ago but that has never affected chkdsk
before

I don't know why I didn't try Sys Rest in the first place since I have
always found it to be very useful
 
R

Randem

Remove the drive and use it in another computer or in a usb enclosure then
run chkdsk /f on it from there. If anything in your os or machine is
preventing it from running it will not be on the other machine and it should
run just fine to correct any problems that may lurk.

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http://www.randem.com/innoscript.html
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http://www.randem.com/discus/messages/9402/9406.html?1236319938
 
N

nass

Glad you got it Fixed one way or another.

I seen a post about a power outage causing similar secnario.
Good luck and thanks for confirming this once again (about the outage).
nass
 

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