Changed from software to hardware firewall and now NETWORK PLACES doesn't work

[Jim Wray]

I'm sure this has a simple answer but being as network illiterate as I
currently am I could use some help.

Previously I was running WinGate on a dedicated machine for NAT and it's
"firewall" features. This machine's first NIC was connected to a cable modem
and the second NIC was connected to a switch to which the other machines on
my home network were connected. All was working great including NETWORK
PLACES and it's display of the machines connected to the network.

To harden up my home network and to try to learn some network stuff at the
same time I purchased a Cisco 501 PIX firewall appliance. I basically took
down the dedicated WinGate machine and the switch. The 501 is both a
firewall and a 4 port switch. The firewall and it's rules took the place of
the Wingate machine and it's 4 port switch took the place of the stand alone
switch. The only change I made to the network machines was to change from
static IP addresses to dynamic using the 501's DHCP server capabilities.

The current situation is this:

The internet connectivity is working perfectly and all machines can get to
the internet.
I can ping all machines using their machine names.
I can browse another computer manually using \\machinename
NETWORK PLACES comes back with a can't find server list or words to that
effect.

It appears that WinGate was providing some service or feature that allowed
NETWORK PLACES to work properly which is not being done by the 501 either
because it doesn't support it (hard to believe) or because I have not yet
configured it. I believe that the 501 has DNS and WINS capabilities which I
don't know enough about but I'm thinking I might need something like this to
get NETWORK PLACES working. Obviously the 501 is doing something that allows
me to ping by machine name but that info doesn't appear to be getting to
NETWORK PLACES.

Given this description, is there enough information to allow one of you
network experts to tell me what I need to do or be looking at to get
NETWORK PLACES to work as it should. What services do I need running on this
simple network to make it all come together and if it's something I need to
change on the networked machines (all Win2K with all upgrades and patches)
what are they. Do I need any additional network software?


many thanks for any assistance...

 

[Robert L [MS-MVP]]

Sound like computer browsing issue. What do you receive if using net view \\remotaecomputername?

Computer Browser Resolutions: this is likely Computer Browser issue. 1. If there is a multi-homed or RAS machine ... For consultants, refer to computer browser issue page. ...
www.chicagotech.net/browser.htm


Bob Lin, MS-MVP, MCSE & CNE
Networking, Internet, Routing, VPN Troubleshooting on http://www.ChicagoTech.net
How to Setup Windows, Network, VPN & Remote Access on http://www.HowToNetworking.com
I'm sure this has a simple answer but being as network illiterate as I
currently am I could use some help.

Previously I was running WinGate on a dedicated machine for NAT and it's
"firewall" features. This machine's first NIC was connected to a cable modem
and the second NIC was connected to a switch to which the other machines on
my home network were connected. All was working great including NETWORK
PLACES and it's display of the machines connected to the network.

To harden up my home network and to try to learn some network stuff at the
same time I purchased a Cisco 501 PIX firewall appliance. I basically took
down the dedicated WinGate machine and the switch. The 501 is both a
firewall and a 4 port switch. The firewall and it's rules took the place of
the Wingate machine and it's 4 port switch took the place of the stand alone
switch. The only change I made to the network machines was to change from
static IP addresses to dynamic using the 501's DHCP server capabilities.

The current situation is this:

The internet connectivity is working perfectly and all machines can get to
the internet.
I can ping all machines using their machine names.
I can browse another computer manually using \\machinename
NETWORK PLACES comes back with a can't find server list or words to that
effect.

It appears that WinGate was providing some service or feature that allowed
NETWORK PLACES to work properly which is not being done by the 501 either
because it doesn't support it (hard to believe) or because I have not yet
configured it. I believe that the 501 has DNS and WINS capabilities which I
don't know enough about but I'm thinking I might need something like this to
get NETWORK PLACES working. Obviously the 501 is doing something that allows
me to ping by machine name but that info doesn't appear to be getting to
NETWORK PLACES.

Given this description, is there enough information to allow one of you
network experts to tell me what I need to do or be looking at to get
NETWORK PLACES to work as it should. What services do I need running on this
simple network to make it all come together and if it's something I need to
change on the networked machines (all Win2K with all upgrades and patches)
what are they. Do I need any additional network software?


many thanks for any assistance...

 

[Jim Wray]

Hi...thanks for responding. I get the statement "There are no entries in the
list"

--


<Smith&Wesson...the original point and click interface>



Sound like computer browsing issue. What do you receive if using net view
\\remotaecomputername?

Computer Browser Resolutions: this is likely Computer Browser issue. 1. If
there is a multi-homed or RAS machine ... For consultants, refer to computer
browser issue page. ...
www.chicagotech.net/browser.htm


Bob Lin, MS-MVP, MCSE & CNE
Networking, Internet, Routing, VPN Troubleshooting on
http://www.ChicagoTech.net
How to Setup Windows, Network, VPN & Remote Access on
http://www.HowToNetworking.com
I'm sure this has a simple answer but being as network illiterate as I
currently am I could use some help.

Previously I was running WinGate on a dedicated machine for NAT and it's
"firewall" features. This machine's first NIC was connected to a cable
modem
and the second NIC was connected to a switch to which the other machines
on
my home network were connected. All was working great including NETWORK
PLACES and it's display of the machines connected to the network.

To harden up my home network and to try to learn some network stuff at
the
same time I purchased a Cisco 501 PIX firewall appliance. I basically took
down the dedicated WinGate machine and the switch. The 501 is both a
firewall and a 4 port switch. The firewall and it's rules took the place
of
the Wingate machine and it's 4 port switch took the place of the stand
alone
switch. The only change I made to the network machines was to change from
static IP addresses to dynamic using the 501's DHCP server capabilities.

The current situation is this:

The internet connectivity is working perfectly and all machines can get to
the internet.
I can ping all machines using their machine names.
I can browse another computer manually using \\machinename
NETWORK PLACES comes back with a can't find server list or words to that
effect.

It appears that WinGate was providing some service or feature that allowed
NETWORK PLACES to work properly which is not being done by the 501 either
because it doesn't support it (hard to believe) or because I have not yet
configured it. I believe that the 501 has DNS and WINS capabilities which
I
don't know enough about but I'm thinking I might need something like this
to
get NETWORK PLACES working. Obviously the 501 is doing something that
allows
me to ping by machine name but that info doesn't appear to be getting to
NETWORK PLACES.

Given this description, is there enough information to allow one of you
network experts to tell me what I need to do or be looking at to get
NETWORK PLACES to work as it should. What services do I need running on
this
simple network to make it all come together and if it's something I need
to
change on the networked machines (all Win2K with all upgrades and patches)
what are they. Do I need any additional network software?


many thanks for any assistance...

 

[Robert L [MS-MVP]]

Make sure you have enabled the file and printer sharing.

Network errors "There are no entries on the list" "There is not enough memory available to print your" This account is the same as the one logged on to the system and that ...
www.chicagotech.net/neterrors.htm


Bob Lin, MS-MVP, MCSE & CNE
Networking, Internet, Routing, VPN Troubleshooting on http://www.ChicagoTech.net
How to Setup Windows, Network, VPN & Remote Access on http://www.HowToNetworking.com
Hi...thanks for responding. I get the statement "There are no entries in the
list"

--


<Smith&Wesson...the original point and click interface>



Sound like computer browsing issue. What do you receive if using net view
\\remotaecomputername?

Computer Browser Resolutions: this is likely Computer Browser issue. 1. If
there is a multi-homed or RAS machine ... For consultants, refer to computer
browser issue page. ...
www.chicagotech.net/browser.htm


Bob Lin, MS-MVP, MCSE & CNE
Networking, Internet, Routing, VPN Troubleshooting on
http://www.ChicagoTech.net
How to Setup Windows, Network, VPN & Remote Access on
http://www.HowToNetworking.com
I'm sure this has a simple answer but being as network illiterate as I
currently am I could use some help.

Previously I was running WinGate on a dedicated machine for NAT and it's
"firewall" features. This machine's first NIC was connected to a cable
modem
and the second NIC was connected to a switch to which the other machines
on
my home network were connected. All was working great including NETWORK
PLACES and it's display of the machines connected to the network.

To harden up my home network and to try to learn some network stuff at
the
same time I purchased a Cisco 501 PIX firewall appliance. I basically took
down the dedicated WinGate machine and the switch. The 501 is both a
firewall and a 4 port switch. The firewall and it's rules took the place
of
the Wingate machine and it's 4 port switch took the place of the stand
alone
switch. The only change I made to the network machines was to change from
static IP addresses to dynamic using the 501's DHCP server capabilities.

The current situation is this:

The internet connectivity is working perfectly and all machines can get to
the internet.
I can ping all machines using their machine names.
I can browse another computer manually using \\machinename
NETWORK PLACES comes back with a can't find server list or words to that
effect.

It appears that WinGate was providing some service or feature that allowed
NETWORK PLACES to work properly which is not being done by the 501 either
because it doesn't support it (hard to believe) or because I have not yet
configured it. I believe that the 501 has DNS and WINS capabilities which
I
don't know enough about but I'm thinking I might need something like this
to
get NETWORK PLACES working. Obviously the 501 is doing something that
allows
me to ping by machine name but that info doesn't appear to be getting to
NETWORK PLACES.

Given this description, is there enough information to allow one of you
network experts to tell me what I need to do or be looking at to get
NETWORK PLACES to work as it should. What services do I need running on
this
simple network to make it all come together and if it's something I need
to
change on the networked machines (all Win2K with all upgrades and patches)
what are they. Do I need any additional network software?


many thanks for any assistance...

 

[Jim Wray]

File and printer sharing are enabled.

thanks

--


<Smith&Wesson...the original point and click interface>



Make sure you have enabled the file and printer sharing.

Network errors "There are no entries on the list" "There is not enough
memory available to print your" This account is the same as the one logged
on to the system and that ...
www.chicagotech.net/neterrors.htm


Bob Lin, MS-MVP, MCSE & CNE
Networking, Internet, Routing, VPN Troubleshooting on
http://www.ChicagoTech.net
How to Setup Windows, Network, VPN & Remote Access on
http://www.HowToNetworking.com
Hi...thanks for responding. I get the statement "There are no entries in
the
list"

--


<Smith&Wesson...the original point and click interface>



Sound like computer browsing issue. What do you receive if using net view
\\remotaecomputername?

Computer Browser Resolutions: this is likely Computer Browser issue. 1. If
there is a multi-homed or RAS machine ... For consultants, refer to
computer
browser issue page. ...
www.chicagotech.net/browser.htm


Bob Lin, MS-MVP, MCSE & CNE
Networking, Internet, Routing, VPN Troubleshooting on
http://www.ChicagoTech.net
How to Setup Windows, Network, VPN & Remote Access on
http://www.HowToNetworking.com
I'm sure this has a simple answer but being as network illiterate as I
currently am I could use some help.

Previously I was running WinGate on a dedicated machine for NAT and it's
"firewall" features. This machine's first NIC was connected to a cable
modem
and the second NIC was connected to a switch to which the other machines
on
my home network were connected. All was working great including NETWORK
PLACES and it's display of the machines connected to the network.

To harden up my home network and to try to learn some network stuff at
the
same time I purchased a Cisco 501 PIX firewall appliance. I basically
took
down the dedicated WinGate machine and the switch. The 501 is both a
firewall and a 4 port switch. The firewall and it's rules took the place
of
the Wingate machine and it's 4 port switch took the place of the stand
alone
switch. The only change I made to the network machines was to change
from
static IP addresses to dynamic using the 501's DHCP server capabilities.

The current situation is this:

The internet connectivity is working perfectly and all machines can get
to
the internet.
I can ping all machines using their machine names.
I can browse another computer manually using \\machinename
NETWORK PLACES comes back with a can't find server list or words to that
effect.

It appears that WinGate was providing some service or feature that
allowed
NETWORK PLACES to work properly which is not being done by the 501
either
because it doesn't support it (hard to believe) or because I have not
yet
configured it. I believe that the 501 has DNS and WINS capabilities
which
I
don't know enough about but I'm thinking I might need something like
this
to
get NETWORK PLACES working. Obviously the 501 is doing something that
allows
me to ping by machine name but that info doesn't appear to be getting to
NETWORK PLACES.

Given this description, is there enough information to allow one of you
network experts to tell me what I need to do or be looking at to get
NETWORK PLACES to work as it should. What services do I need running on
this
simple network to make it all come together and if it's something I need
to
change on the networked machines (all Win2K with all upgrades and
patches)
what are they. Do I need any additional network software?


many thanks for any assistance...