Change IP Address

[LadyDungeness]

Is it possible for me to change the IP address of my computer?


Lady Dungeness
Crabby, but Great Legs!
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

 

[Paul]

Is it possible for me to change the IP address of my computer?


Lady Dungeness
Crabby, but Great Legs!
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

For a home computer user, the IP address is at the whim of the ISP, and
also is affected by the technology being used for interconnect.

I'm on ADSL for example, and a protocol called PPPOE is used by my
ISP. My public IP address changes each time I log in and connect the
modem to the provider. I may disconnect (so the script kiddies cannot
scan me) several times a day. This would be an inconvenience if I
was running a server (where a fixed IP address is best).

If I was using a commercial account with the same provider, they can
also set it up so that the IP address remains fixed.

A dialup connection may give a different IP address on each connection.
Modems are set up in modem pools, and generally there is a mechanism to
select a different device to answer the call, each time a call comes in.
This prevents a dead port, from preventing a customer from ever connecting.
The dead port is skipped, and a good one found on the very next try. The
IP address may be tied to the port of the equipment servicing the call,
so a new IP address results.

A cable modem, on the other hand, could behave differently than the above
example. A cable modem, AFAIK, uses a shared media, and a single cable
is used for a bunch of users in the same neighborhood. The MAC address
of the cable modem, may be used to track who is connecting and sending
packets. (Which is why, if you change out the modem, the connection may
no longer work.) They may choose to assign a permanent IP address to a
user, in which case, "no anonymity for you".

I cannot guarantee that any of the above will be true for you. Ask
any potential ISP you are interested in, what the characteristics are
of their system.

One way to solve the problem, is with an anonymizer service. I ran
into this one, in a magazine article. I've never seen this promoted on
the Internet.

https://www.relakks.com/?cid=gb

Basically, a packet from your computer, goes to the relakks server. The
server forwards a new packet to the intended destination, with an IP address
that maps to "somenode.relakks.com". In that case, your packet cannot
(easily) be traced. (All it would take is a court order.) But a destination
web site may choose to ignore all packets coming from "relakks.com", in
which case your clever scheme would be thwarted. If a web site is tracking
(and blocking) users by IP address or by their provider, it is still possible
for them to exclude anonymizer services if they become a pain in the ass.
So whole blocks of IP addresses could be blocked, if some form of abuse is
happening, and it all comes from a fixed source.

This is not particularly an IP related issue, but for email, there are
things like remailers for remaining anonymous. But the experience with
penet.fi, should teach that there is no such thing as complete anonymity.
All it takes is the right "lawyer-speak", to make all the records
available.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Penet.fi

Paul

 

[Gordon]

Is it possible for me to change the IP address of my computer?

Why would you want to?

 

[Bob I]

(Loaded question) Yes, but then how would the server know where you
went? You probably should share WHY you believe you need a different IP
address.

 

[Bob Willard]

Is it possible for me to change the IP address of my computer?

Yes. Dangerous, maybe, but certainly possible.

Lady Dungeness
Crabby, but Great Legs!
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

And now we want to see a picture of you with your ten great legs.

 

[Rick]

Is it possible for me to change the IP address of my computer?


Lady Dungeness
Crabby, but Great Legs!
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Try TOR google it

 

[Kevin]

For internal networks, you can have any IP address you want. For
example try any numbers between: 192.168.1.1 to 192.168.1.255. Just
make sure that the first three numbers are the same for all your systems
on your internal networks.

For external purposes, the IP address is assigned to you by your ISP.
This could be dynamic or in some cases you could have static. Some
cable companies assign static addresses to their customers to track them
down easily!.

Hope this helps.

 

[LadyDungeness]

On Thu, 10 Jan 2008 21:11:43 -0800, (e-mail address removed) wrote:

I appreciate everybody's input. I got kicked off of the wordreference
forum because I criticized the grammarians for saying people who don't
follow the "rules" are "uneducated." It made one of the mods really
mad. Actually, I can really benefit from one of the sub-forums, and
would like to re-join the forum.

I tried to rejoin from a public computer in another location in my
town, but the wordreference forum blocked me. I guess they must be
blocking everybody from my town.

Can I mask who I am or where I'm connecting from, so that I can at
least read the forums?

I use cable.


Lady Dungeness
Crabby, but Great Legs!
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

 

[peter]

They cant be blocking everybody in a town.......did you use the same user
name/email address or ????
maybe you should set up a new account.. new email address... or
whatever they use to identify YOU!!

peter

 

[LadyDungeness]

I set up a new account -- new everything -- on a library computer.
They blocked me. How do they know? Or do they just watch for
connections from my town?


Lady Dungeness
Crabby, but Great Legs!
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~


|They cant be blocking everybody in a town.......did you use the same user
|name/email address or ????
|maybe you should set up a new account.. new email address... or
|whatever they use to identify YOU!!
|
|peter

 

[Paul]

I set up a new account -- new everything -- on a library computer.
They blocked me. How do they know? Or do they just watch for
connections from my town?


Lady Dungeness
Crabby, but Great Legs!
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Are you using a "throw-away" email address ?

Maybe they won't accept gmail or hotmail etc.
They may want an email from a "real" ISP. In
which case, IP masking isn't going to help,
if you're failing during the registration phase.

Paul

 

[Tom [Pepper] Willett]

Could also be cookies.

: They cant be blocking everybody in a town.......did you use the same user
: name/email address or ????
: maybe you should set up a new account.. new email address... or
: whatever they use to identify YOU!!
:
: peter
:
: --
: DISCLAIMER: If you find a posting or message from me
: offensive, inappropriate, or disruptive, please ignore it.
: If you don't know how to ignore a posting, complain to
: me and I will be only too happy to demonstrate... ;-)
:
:
: : > On Thu, 10 Jan 2008 21:11:43 -0800, (e-mail address removed) wrote:
: >
: > I appreciate everybody's input. I got kicked off of the wordreference
: > forum because I criticized the grammarians for saying people who don't
: > follow the "rules" are "uneducated." It made one of the mods really
: > mad. Actually, I can really benefit from one of the sub-forums, and
: > would like to re-join the forum.
: >
: > I tried to rejoin from a public computer in another location in my
: > town, but the wordreference forum blocked me. I guess they must be
: > blocking everybody from my town.
: >
: > Can I mask who I am or where I'm connecting from, so that I can at
: > least read the forums?
: >
: > I use cable.
: >
: >
: > Lady Dungeness
: > Crabby, but Great Legs!
: > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
:

 

[Bob I]

Is this the site?
http://forum.wordreference.com/

If so, no need to register to merely read the info, only required to
post, and even then there will be some waiting period while they
determined credentials were legit.

 

[LadyDungeness]

Yes, that's the site. I've been blocked from reading, too.
I've cleaned out cookies.
I use yahoo email addresses. Yes, throwaway addresses.
First registration went fine.

So, how do I change my IP because that must be how they're blocking me
from even reading the site.


Lady Dungeness
Crabby, but Great Legs!
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~



|Is this the site?
|http://forum.wordreference.com/
|
|If so, no need to register to merely read the info, only required to
|post, and even then there will be some waiting period while they
|determined credentials were legit.
|
|
|[email protected] wrote:
|> On Thu, 10 Jan 2008 21:11:43 -0800, (e-mail address removed) wrote:
|>
|> I appreciate everybody's input. I got kicked off of the wordreference
|> forum because I criticized the grammarians for saying people who don't
|> follow the "rules" are "uneducated." It made one of the mods really
|> mad. Actually, I can really benefit from one of the sub-forums, and
|> would like to re-join the forum.
|>
|> I tried to rejoin from a public computer in another location in my
|> town, but the wordreference forum blocked me. I guess they must be
|> blocking everybody from my town.
|>
|> Can I mask who I am or where I'm connecting from, so that I can at
|> least read the forums?
|>
|> I use cable.
|>
|>
|> Lady Dungeness
|> Crabby, but Great Legs!
|> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

 

[Paul]

Yes, that's the site. I've been blocked from reading, too.
I've cleaned out cookies.
I use yahoo email addresses. Yes, throwaway addresses.
First registration went fine.

So, how do I change my IP because that must be how they're blocking me
from even reading the site.


Lady Dungeness
Crabby, but Great Legs!

If you cannot read from your Public Library computer, I
don't see the point of trying to change the IP address
on your home computer. A Public Library computer should
be sufficiently different to do the job.

First, I'd want to demonstrate a "success" case, before
concluding what is needed to solve the problem.

Paul

 

[LadyDungeness]

I used a public computer successfully for a while; then they
identified me and blocked me. I suppose that means they've blocked
the whole library.

So yes, I had success. Now I need to get around the blockage. The
forum is one of the best translator's forums around.


Lady Dungeness
Crabby, but Great Legs!
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~



|[email protected] wrote:
|> Yes, that's the site. I've been blocked from reading, too.
|> I've cleaned out cookies.
|> I use yahoo email addresses. Yes, throwaway addresses.
|> First registration went fine.
|>
|> So, how do I change my IP because that must be how they're blocking me
|> from even reading the site.
|>
|>
|> Lady Dungeness
|> Crabby, but Great Legs!
|
|If you cannot read from your Public Library computer, I
|don't see the point of trying to change the IP address
|on your home computer. A Public Library computer should
|be sufficiently different to do the job.
|
|First, I'd want to demonstrate a "success" case, before
|concluding what is needed to solve the problem.
|
| Paul

 

[Paul]

I used a public computer successfully for a while; then they
identified me and blocked me. I suppose that means they've blocked
the whole library.

So yes, I had success. Now I need to get around the blockage. The
forum is one of the best translator's forums around.


Lady Dungeness
Crabby, but Great Legs!

As I explained earlier, some technologies give a different IP, every
time you connect. I'm on ADSL, and I don't get the same IP twice in
a row. The IP addresses are in pools, in several different blocks,
and are allocated on a first come first serve basis. If I don't like
my IP address, I command my router to close the connection, and
then I open a connection ten seconds later. I get a new public IP address.
Since they are in blocks, someone could block my entire ISP, so the
scheme still isn't bulletproof.

If you don't want to try different ISPs, there are also anonymizer
services. You can also do a search on "IP anonuymizer", as there
are also software applications. Presumably, all of these will
involve VPN (virtual private network) techniques, as some other node
will be needed to send your packets to their destination. It means
the intermediary knows who you are, but not the destination node.

https://www.relakks.com/?cid=gb

Note that VPN networks have performance issues. It has been mentioned
that relakks is a crappy way to download DVDs, because it is so slow.
I've used a VPN between home and work (encrypted to protect company
content), and my 300KB/sec service operates at about 3KB/sec when
doing Windows file transfers (sharing). This is caused by packet
fragmentation, and the need to break up a sent packet into pieces.
That slows things down. Presumably there is a way to improve that,
but I never discovered the secret.

Paul

 

[Bob I]

If they blocked entire IP address ranges from even connecting to their
server, you are pretty much out of luck. Since even if you "change" the
IP address that the ISP gives you, it will still be in the blocked IP
set. You might try some "Anonymizer" proxy server, but they may already
have blocked all the known ones out of hand. But that's pretty much it
if you already managed to get your local library blocked from access.