CDRW drives making coasters


A

ayooper

I have 2 (IDE) CDRW drives and they both usually work just fine. However,
sometimes when I leave in a cdrw disk or a cdr that was not closed out for
writing, the drive will suddenly spin up and make a coaster out of the disk.
Sometimes when it happens it will install UDF reader on the cd.

This happens on both of the CDRW drives. I use the computer every day, but
sometimes it is weeks between these events. All of the data is destroyed no
matter which drive is involved. I have Roxio EZ CD creator 6 (latest update)
installed. I had Nero installed before but had the same problem, so I
uninstalled Nero and installed Roxio, thinking that maybe Nero was the
problem. I have cleaned up the registry as best I know how with Registry
First Aid software.

Sometimes it happens on boot up, sometimes when I am web browsing or running
other programs.

I am running Windows XP SP2 on an Athlon XP 2500 with 512 MB ram and a hard
drive with about 20 GB free. Asus A7N8X-X mobo.

I was depending on cdr's for archival photo storage, but I have lost a
thousand pictures, probably more, because of this. Lately I have been
relying on the hard drive for archival storage, but I realize that is not a
good thing to do. And the hard drive is getting full quickly.

I need a solution. I am desperate! Does anyone have an idea why this is
happening?

Thanks for your input.
 
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J

John

I have 2 (IDE) CDRW drives and they both usually work just fine. However,
sometimes when I leave in a cdrw disk or a cdr that was not closed out for
writing, the drive will suddenly spin up and make a coaster out of the disk.
Sometimes when it happens it will install UDF reader on the cd.

This happens on both of the CDRW drives. I use the computer every day, but
sometimes it is weeks between these events. All of the data is destroyed no
matter which drive is involved. I have Roxio EZ CD creator 6 (latest update)
installed. I had Nero installed before but had the same problem, so I
uninstalled Nero and installed Roxio, thinking that maybe Nero was the
problem. I have cleaned up the registry as best I know how with Registry
First Aid software.

Sometimes it happens on boot up, sometimes when I am web browsing or running
other programs.

Are using packet writing? Direct CD? That gets trashed a lot a
unreliable. Ive used it for years and I like it actually cause of the
convenience. It does have a higher rate of problems it seems but if
you take precautions and accept a certain level of problems you can
live with it. You dont leave things open for a long period of time
with Direct CD or theres a high risk of disaster.

If you want to just archive stuff - unless you archive mountains of
stuff, just save the stuff on a hard disk until it piles up to equal a
CDs worth. Then do a conventional burn and close it out and to make
sure make two copies. Do this with quality media and store them in a
relatively dry place without temp extremes away from UV light. I doubt
you would have massive problems then unless you have something wrong
with your system or your disks are cheap or drives. Try Ritek or Fuji
disks . Supposedly the ones that say Made in Japan are the better
ones and also Fuji was said to be phasing out MIJ CDRs - yet another
victim of outsourcing to reduce costs. However they are considered to
be decent disks. You can also buy spindles labeled directly from the
quality maker Taiyo Yuden online if you do a search.

I use TYs from Fuji which I stockpiled - still have 500 left for
music. I use anything on sale for everything else and it works OK. No
big problems. Sure Ive had the same type of problems with DIrect CD -
if you leave it open and anything is wrong with your PC - it crashes,
or the hard disk is corrupt etc your CD which may even seem OK until
you close it , can come up dead the next time you try to read it.

There are also recovery programs - I think it was called BadCopyPro ,
which Ive used and it works on many screwed up disks but I wouldnt
count on it for frequent use cause its a hassle to try to recover tons
of files.
 
J

John

I have 2 (IDE) CDRW drives and they both usually work just fine. However,
sometimes when I leave in a cdrw disk or a cdr that was not closed out for
writing, the drive will suddenly spin up and make a coaster out of the disk.
Sometimes when it happens it will install UDF reader on the cd.

Oh yeah also dont use CDRWs disks. You get way less reliability with
Direct CD to begin with , adding the additional unreliabilty of a CDRW
really gets it into the danger zone.
 
O

Oddzilla

first of all, CD-Rs and CD-RWs will only last on a shelf about a decade
- and that's very generous. so using them for "archival" anything is a
big mistake. if you're serious about digital archiving, your best bet
is a mirrored hard disk RAID1 array, tape backup, or an obscure
technology called Magneto-Optical disks. all of which are fairly
impractical or expensive. burned DVD's have a slightly longer shelf
life than their CD counterparts, because the foil recording layer is
actually enclosed within the plastic of the disc (instead of on the
surface, exposed to air, like with CDs), but it's still quite far from
perfect.

anyway, my guess is that DirectCD is doing it. perhaps it periodically
checks what's going on with the drives, and sees, "hey, there's an
unclosed disc in here! i'd better close it, because that's what my
user would want!" (i'm reminded of the classic microsoft explanation -
"it's not a bug - it's a feature.") My suggestion would be to disable
DirectCD (which is actually a bit difficult - it likes to keep itself
running in background at all times, even without a visible icon in the
systray), and see if the problem continues. If it does, I would then
try uninstalling Roxio altogether, and seeing if the problem still
occurrs. My guess is that it won't, but this is how troubleshooting is
done - remove potential causes one by one until the problem resolves.
If uninstalling roxio altogether seems to be the only fix, i'd
recommend using a different burner suite (nero is quite good, and there
are many, many others as well).

best of luck to you.
 
Q

Quaoar

Oddzilla said:
first of all, CD-Rs and CD-RWs will only last on a shelf about a
decade - and that's very generous. so using them for "archival"
anything is a big mistake. if you're serious about digital
archiving, your best bet is a mirrored hard disk RAID1 array, tape
backup, or an obscure technology called Magneto-Optical disks. all
of which are fairly impractical or expensive. burned DVD's have a
slightly longer shelf life than their CD counterparts, because the
foil recording layer is actually enclosed within the plastic of the
disc (instead of on the surface, exposed to air, like with CDs), but
it's still quite far from perfect.

anyway, my guess is that DirectCD is doing it. perhaps it
periodically checks what's going on with the drives, and sees, "hey,
there's an unclosed disc in here! i'd better close it, because
that's what my user would want!" (i'm reminded of the classic
microsoft explanation - "it's not a bug - it's a feature.") My
suggestion would be to disable DirectCD (which is actually a bit
difficult - it likes to keep itself running in background at all
times, even without a visible icon in the systray), and see if the
problem continues. If it does, I would then try uninstalling Roxio
altogether, and seeing if the problem still occurrs. My guess is
that it won't, but this is how troubleshooting is done - remove
potential causes one by one until the problem resolves. If
uninstalling roxio altogether seems to be the only fix, i'd recommend
using a different burner suite (nero is quite good, and there are
many, many others as well).

best of luck to you.

Also, disable the XP ATAPI CD Burning Service. There might well be a
conflict there.

Q
 
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Shep©

I have 2 (IDE) CDRW drives and they both usually work just fine. However,
sometimes when I leave in a cdrw disk or a cdr that was not closed out for
writing, the drive will suddenly spin up and make a coaster out of the disk.
Sometimes when it happens it will install UDF reader on the cd.

This happens on both of the CDRW drives. I use the computer every day, but
sometimes it is weeks between these events. All of the data is destroyed no
matter which drive is involved. I have Roxio EZ CD creator 6 (latest update)
installed. I had Nero installed before but had the same problem, so I
uninstalled Nero and installed Roxio, thinking that maybe Nero was the
problem. I have cleaned up the registry as best I know how with Registry
First Aid software.

Sometimes it happens on boot up, sometimes when I am web browsing or running
other programs.

I am running Windows XP SP2 on an Athlon XP 2500 with 512 MB ram and a hard
drive with about 20 GB free. Asus A7N8X-X mobo.

I was depending on cdr's for archival photo storage, but I have lost a
thousand pictures, probably more, because of this. Lately I have been
relying on the hard drive for archival storage, but I realize that is not a
good thing to do. And the hard drive is getting full quickly.

I need a solution. I am desperate! Does anyone have an idea why this is
happening?

Thanks for your input.

Rule 1:Never leave Floppy Disks/CDR disks/DVD disks in the drive on a
window's O/S
Rule 2:See rule one


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