CCleaner use on Registry ??

B

Bruce Hagen

SC Tom said:
Thanks, I had just installed it. Even though it's for OE, it appears to
work in WLM, too.
Thanks!


YW. Let me know how it turns out. I wasn't following the thread that close
and didn't realize you have WLMail. I'd be interested to know if it is
functional with WLMail.
 
S

SC Tom

Bruce Hagen said:
YW. Let me know how it turns out. I wasn't following the thread that close
and didn't realize you have WLMail. I'd be interested to know if it is
functional with WLMail.

I sent a reply to Jose's post to myself, and the reply marks ">" were
there. I haven't looked into any of the other aspects of the program since
that was all I am needing for now. I guess I'll just put a shortcut to the
stand-alone version (since OE doesn't run on Win7) and see how that goes for
me.
 
B

Bruce Hagen

SC Tom said:
Bruce Hagen said:
SC Tom said:
SC Tom wrote:
SC Tom wrote:
Can anyone tell me any registry cleaner I can run that will
delete
system files or other files without my knowledge/consent that
will
leave my system unbootable when it is done?

OneCare & Windows Live Safety Center online scans.

Can anyone provide an example (not a rumor) of any Windows
function
that works and then after a registry cleaner, the function does
not
work anymore?...

How about the thousands of users who ended up with horked
installs of
Office after running a Windows Live Safety Center scan?

Can anyone provide an example (not a rumor) of how running a
registry cleaner will make my system worse than before I started
(timings are good).

See above. Also see this discussion:
http://aumha.net/viewtopic.php?t=28099


I didn't ask that; Jose did. My reply is at the bottom of that
post
:)

That is frustrating! I hate when that happens! :)

If you look at the attribution levels in your post, I can see how
PA Bear thought those were your words. This confusion is the result
of two things that don't play well with Usenet:

1. Jose posted from Google Groups, which appearently uses the
incorrect Quoted Printable format.

2. You responded to Jose's problematic post (in that it is in the
QP format) using a news reader (Outlook Express, usually, but
Windows Live Mail in your case) that has difficulty allowing for
this kind of situation. I also use OE, but since I also use
Quote-Fix, the attribution levels are shifted to where they should
be (that is, if I were replying directly to Jose). Notice John
John's reply to Jose. Its attribution marks are where they should
be, too (he uses Thunderbird).


That was why I placed a line of equal signs between the end of his
post and mine. Guess I should have explained what that was for, or
made a note like <end post> <reply start>.
Tried T'bird- didn't like it. I've never heard of Quote-Fix. I'll
have to look that up.
--
SC Tom




OE-QuoteFix:
http://home.in.tum.de/~jain/software/oe-quotefix/
--
Bruce Hagen
MS-MVP [Mail]
Imperial Beach, CA


Thanks, I had just installed it. Even though it's for OE, it appears
to work in WLM, too.
Thanks!


YW. Let me know how it turns out. I wasn't following the thread that
close and didn't realize you have WLMail. I'd be interested to know if
it is functional with WLMail.

I sent a reply to Jose's post to myself, and the reply marks ">" were
there. I haven't looked into any of the other aspects of the program
since that was all I am needing for now. I guess I'll just put a
shortcut to the stand-alone version (since OE doesn't run on Win7) and
see how that goes for me.

Thanks for the feedback.
 
D

Daave

SC said:
Bruce Hagen said:
SC Tom said:
SC Tom wrote:
SC Tom wrote:
Can anyone tell me any registry cleaner I can run that will
delete system files or other files without my
knowledge/consent that will leave my system unbootable when
it is done?

OneCare & Windows Live Safety Center online scans.

Can anyone provide an example (not a rumor) of any Windows
function that works and then after a registry cleaner, the
function does not work anymore?...

How about the thousands of users who ended up with horked
installs of
Office after running a Windows Live Safety Center scan?

Can anyone provide an example (not a rumor) of how running a
registry cleaner will make my system worse than before I
started (timings are good).

See above. Also see this discussion:
http://aumha.net/viewtopic.php?t=28099


I didn't ask that; Jose did. My reply is at the bottom of that
post :)

That is frustrating! I hate when that happens! :)

If you look at the attribution levels in your post, I can see
how PA Bear thought those were your words. This confusion is the
result of two things that don't play well with Usenet:

1. Jose posted from Google Groups, which appearently uses the
incorrect Quoted Printable format.

2. You responded to Jose's problematic post (in that it is in
the QP format) using a news reader (Outlook Express, usually,
but Windows Live Mail in your case) that has difficulty allowing
for this kind of situation. I also use OE, but since I also use
Quote-Fix, the attribution levels are shifted to where they
should be (that is, if I were replying directly to Jose). Notice
John John's reply to Jose. Its attribution marks are where they
should be, too (he uses Thunderbird).

That was why I placed a line of equal signs between the end of
his post and mine. Guess I should have explained what that was
for, or made a note like <end post> <reply start>.
Tried T'bird- didn't like it. I've never heard of Quote-Fix. I'll
have to look that up.
--
SC Tom




OE-QuoteFix:
http://home.in.tum.de/~jain/software/oe-quotefix/
--
Bruce Hagen
MS-MVP [Mail]
Imperial Beach, CA


Thanks, I had just installed it. Even though it's for OE, it
appears to work in WLM, too.
Thanks!


YW. Let me know how it turns out. I wasn't following the thread that
close and didn't realize you have WLMail. I'd be interested to know
if it is functional with WLMail.

I sent a reply to Jose's post to myself, and the reply marks ">" were
there. I haven't looked into any of the other aspects of the program
since that was all I am needing for now. I guess I'll just put a
shortcut to the stand-alone version (since OE doesn't run on Win7)
and see how that goes for me.

Good to know that QF works with WLM. Thanks for letting us know, Tom.

I've never used any of OE's successors. What seem to be the significant
changes?
 
S

SC Tom

Daave said:
SC said:
Bruce Hagen said:
SC Tom wrote:
SC Tom wrote:
Can anyone tell me any registry cleaner I can run that will
delete system files or other files without my
knowledge/consent that will leave my system unbootable when
it is done?

OneCare & Windows Live Safety Center online scans.

Can anyone provide an example (not a rumor) of any Windows
function that works and then after a registry cleaner, the
function does not work anymore?...

How about the thousands of users who ended up with horked
installs of
Office after running a Windows Live Safety Center scan?

Can anyone provide an example (not a rumor) of how running a
registry cleaner will make my system worse than before I
started (timings are good).

See above. Also see this discussion:
http://aumha.net/viewtopic.php?t=28099


I didn't ask that; Jose did. My reply is at the bottom of that
post :)

That is frustrating! I hate when that happens! :)

If you look at the attribution levels in your post, I can see
how PA Bear thought those were your words. This confusion is the
result of two things that don't play well with Usenet:

1. Jose posted from Google Groups, which appearently uses the
incorrect Quoted Printable format.

2. You responded to Jose's problematic post (in that it is in
the QP format) using a news reader (Outlook Express, usually,
but Windows Live Mail in your case) that has difficulty allowing
for this kind of situation. I also use OE, but since I also use
Quote-Fix, the attribution levels are shifted to where they
should be (that is, if I were replying directly to Jose). Notice
John John's reply to Jose. Its attribution marks are where they
should be, too (he uses Thunderbird).

That was why I placed a line of equal signs between the end of
his post and mine. Guess I should have explained what that was
for, or made a note like <end post> <reply start>.
Tried T'bird- didn't like it. I've never heard of Quote-Fix. I'll
have to look that up.
--
SC Tom




OE-QuoteFix:
http://home.in.tum.de/~jain/software/oe-quotefix/
--
Bruce Hagen
MS-MVP [Mail]
Imperial Beach, CA


Thanks, I had just installed it. Even though it's for OE, it
appears to work in WLM, too.
Thanks!
--
SC Tom




YW. Let me know how it turns out. I wasn't following the thread that
close and didn't realize you have WLMail. I'd be interested to know
if it is functional with WLMail.

I sent a reply to Jose's post to myself, and the reply marks ">" were
there. I haven't looked into any of the other aspects of the program
since that was all I am needing for now. I guess I'll just put a
shortcut to the stand-alone version (since OE doesn't run on Win7)
and see how that goes for me.

Good to know that QF works with WLM. Thanks for letting us know, Tom.

I've never used any of OE's successors. What seem to be the significant
changes?

There aren't a lot of changes between OE and WLM that I can see other than
the display part of it. The font appears to be faded or washed out on read
messages, and the unread are not truly bold, more like Arial Black. There
are work-arounds for that.
Rules and Block Sender work about the same, as do most other aspects of it.
Personally, I think it's a decent replacement for those using OE or Windows
Mail in Vista- the look and feel of WLM is similar, and the learning curve
is simple.

Before I had purchased Win7, I checked out some other mail and newsreader
programs, both all-in-ones like Thunderbird and Forte, and separate ones. I
even tried Outlook 2003 with the MapiLab NNTP plug in for newsgroups.
Although they are all good programs, I didn't think any of them were a good
replacement for Outlook Express for me, so I went with WLM. Others will have
differing opinions, and that's OK. This was just what I liked, and now use
on my Win7 notebook. (This reply is posted with OE since I'm on my XP
desktop now :) )

If you peruse microsoft.public.windows.live.mail.desktop, you'll see a lot
of likes/dislikes. I use the mail part of the live package, which includes
email, calendar, and a newsreader. Each of the different programs can be
downoaded separately if you don't want Movie Maker, Photo Gallery, or any of
that stuff. Some of it works on XP and Vista; all of it works on Win7. You
can get it here: http://download.live.com/ .
 
D

Daave

SC said:
Daave said:
SC said:
SC Tom wrote:
SC Tom wrote:
Can anyone tell me any registry cleaner I can run that will
delete system files or other files without my
knowledge/consent that will leave my system unbootable when
it is done?

OneCare & Windows Live Safety Center online scans.

Can anyone provide an example (not a rumor) of any Windows
function that works and then after a registry cleaner, the
function does not work anymore?...

How about the thousands of users who ended up with horked
installs of
Office after running a Windows Live Safety Center scan?

Can anyone provide an example (not a rumor) of how running a
registry cleaner will make my system worse than before I
started (timings are good).

See above. Also see this discussion:
http://aumha.net/viewtopic.php?t=28099


I didn't ask that; Jose did. My reply is at the bottom of that
post :)

That is frustrating! I hate when that happens! :)

If you look at the attribution levels in your post, I can see
how PA Bear thought those were your words. This confusion is
the result of two things that don't play well with Usenet:

1. Jose posted from Google Groups, which appearently uses the
incorrect Quoted Printable format.

2. You responded to Jose's problematic post (in that it is in
the QP format) using a news reader (Outlook Express, usually,
but Windows Live Mail in your case) that has difficulty
allowing for this kind of situation. I also use OE, but since
I also use Quote-Fix, the attribution levels are shifted to
where they should be (that is, if I were replying directly to
Jose). Notice John John's reply to Jose. Its attribution marks
are where they should be, too (he uses Thunderbird).

That was why I placed a line of equal signs between the end of
his post and mine. Guess I should have explained what that was
for, or made a note like <end post> <reply start>.
Tried T'bird- didn't like it. I've never heard of Quote-Fix.
I'll have to look that up.
--
SC Tom




OE-QuoteFix:
http://home.in.tum.de/~jain/software/oe-quotefix/
--
Bruce Hagen
MS-MVP [Mail]
Imperial Beach, CA


Thanks, I had just installed it. Even though it's for OE, it
appears to work in WLM, too.
Thanks!
--
SC Tom




YW. Let me know how it turns out. I wasn't following the thread
that close and didn't realize you have WLMail. I'd be interested
to know if it is functional with WLMail.
--
Bruce Hagen
MS-MVP [Mail]
Imperial Beach, CA


I sent a reply to Jose's post to myself, and the reply marks ">"
were there. I haven't looked into any of the other aspects of the
program since that was all I am needing for now. I guess I'll just
put a shortcut to the stand-alone version (since OE doesn't run on
Win7) and see how that goes for me.

Good to know that QF works with WLM. Thanks for letting us know, Tom.

I've never used any of OE's successors. What seem to be the
significant changes?

There aren't a lot of changes between OE and WLM that I can see other
than the display part of it. The font appears to be faded or washed
out on read messages, and the unread are not truly bold, more like
Arial Black. There are work-arounds for that.
Rules and Block Sender work about the same, as do most other aspects
of it. Personally, I think it's a decent replacement for those using
OE or Windows Mail in Vista- the look and feel of WLM is similar, and
the learning curve is simple.

Before I had purchased Win7, I checked out some other mail and
newsreader programs, both all-in-ones like Thunderbird and Forte, and
separate ones. I even tried Outlook 2003 with the MapiLab NNTP plug
in for newsgroups. Although they are all good programs, I didn't
think any of them were a good replacement for Outlook Express for me,
so I went with WLM. Others will have differing opinions, and that's
OK. This was just what I liked, and now use on my Win7 notebook.
(This reply is posted with OE since I'm on my XP desktop now :) )

If you peruse microsoft.public.windows.live.mail.desktop, you'll see
a lot of likes/dislikes. I use the mail part of the live package,
which includes email, calendar, and a newsreader. Each of the
different programs can be downoaded separately if you don't want
Movie Maker, Photo Gallery, or any of that stuff. Some of it works on
XP and Vista; all of it works on Win7. You can get it here:
http://download.live.com/ .

Thanks for the explanation (I had thought you were using WLM on XP!).
 
S

SC Tom

Daave said:
Thanks for the explanation (I had thought you were using WLM on XP!).

Sorry, I wasn't intentionally trying to mislead you.
I did try WLM on XP, and it worked the same as it does on Win7. But since I
had been using OE, I went back to it when I upgraded my notebook from Vista
to Win7. So now I use OE here on my XP desktop, and WLM on my Win7 notebook
when I'm not at home.

On a side note to the original subject, after installing and uninstalling
all those mail and news programs, CCleaner DEFinitely found a mess of
invalid entries ;-) Using CCleaner, I removed them all and suffered no ill
consequences. Didn't notice any improvement in performance either, but it
did clear up a couple of recurring event log error entries.
 
S

SC Tom

Oh. OK. Although he's one I wouldn't even consider plonking. Actually, I
don't think I've plonked anyone in this group :)
 
D

Daave

He's one of the last people I'd plonk. I wonder if there might have been
one testy exchange or something.
 

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