CCleaner and the Registry

[Twayne]

Twayne

It's a waste of my time to discuss Registry Cleaners with you. On this
subject you continue to make a fool of yourself. Bye.

So long, don't let the door hit you ... .

 

[Twayne]

He obviously relishes it.

I do rather enjoy outing you guys with the misinformation you constantly
spew; that's true.

 

[Twayne]

I see that you are still striking down people for telling of their bad
experiences with registry cleaners while tactfully managing not to
produce ANY proof to the contrary other than a sales pitch written by
an interested party..

What bad experiences? Cite? Proof? Look back thru the posts. "Proof"
is pretty ambiguous to start with. There has been one cite of one
person with one experience years back, at which point he abandoned them
all, calling them all no good. That one? At least that poster was
honest about it. Something you don't know how to be.

And there's another mantra: If you can't prove it claim that no one else
has either; just make your own definition of proof, keep it to yourself,
and look for all the twists and turns you can make by centering in on
one irrelevant fact when the subject is far from that simple.
The first onus was on you to provide additional information in the
very beginning and you have failed to produce a single piece of
supporting information from any source. NONE of you have ever provided
anything to the contrary of my statements. Not a single one of you.
There is a very good reason for that.
Just dig out the old posts and you'll see who said what. The fact
that you say something means nothing to anything. If it were so bad,
there would be article after article about it, not just a few closed
minded ingorants like you folk here spewing crap; you'd have all kinds
of information available.
You and some other supposed MVPs also completely and totally ignored
my offer to prove out a few of the salient points in a manner where YOU
would be part of the experiment, some time back. Not a single person
wanted to try it. Because you knew what the outcomes would be: They
would be exactly as I have stated them to be, and with the same results
as I have had over the years with registry cleaners, and continue to
have as of this date. My history is full of examples and experiences
using registry cleaners.
You are an excellent example of one definition of "ignorant" in
the dictionary. Intentional ignorance is the worst of them all while
plain ignorance is nothing to be ashamed of.
And to go back all the way, the initial claims about the dangers of
registry cleaners easily caught my attention. I thought I was about to
learn someting I hadn't known. But when I originally asked for some
further evidence I could research myself, all of a sudden there were no
more answers. IIRC I asked three times, thinking perhaps my questions
weren't clear enough. That' when I began to think the perpetrators were
snake oil salesmen, as so many of you like to parrot, and one other
boilerplate. It didn't take long to discover that you guys were spewing
nonsense when I began to research and dig further into registry
cleaners. Other than on an overview level, I doubt most of you have no
idea how a registry cleaner actually functions. They're actually pretty
simple processes; but you wouldn't know that, never having looked
closely on your own.

Thanks again,

Twayne

 

[Twayne]

Twayne has an endless supply of smoke grenades.

And you have nothing. Nada. Period; not even facts on your side. If
you did, you would have trotted them out long ago when people were still
asking and wondering if there was anything to the spew. But that was a
long time ago.
Twayne

 

[R. McCarty]

While your experience shows no damage, mine is different. I can look
back though hundreds of customer records and note case after case of
a Registry Cleaning causing machine problems. Granted over the years
the programs have evolved/improved but not enough to trust them as a
globally recommended computer tool.

Every time I hear an ad for Registry Mechanic on the "Digital Goddess"
( Former attractive saleslady ) Kim Komando show, I cringe. Even she
should know better than to promote them as a "Cure All, PC Fix'er Up'er".

If there was such a thing as a effective/reliable Registry Cleaner then I
would make use of it. I think you're misinterpreting the advice given here.
It's more of "Do No Damage" caveat than Registry Cleaners are junk.
Most people who receive advice here want a problem resolved not a
lead-in to more issues than they already have.

Most experienced technicians have encountered machines where whatever
was originally wrong with a PC was made worse by a Registry Cleaning.

Registry Cleaning is a subjective process where it's difficult if not
impossible to know what the end results will be. Some clean a little -
others
do more.

It's not like defragmentation where all products yield a similar end result.
That's my main issue with all Registry Cleaners, the subjective
determination
of what is & is not an invalid Key or Value. If you load any 3 Registry
Cleaners and run the scan the results of what each determines to remove
will be different. Until someone can develop a tool that is precise and
not subjective I can't recommend anyone using one. It's an unperfected
process that has more risks than benefits.

 

[Unknown]

Because registry cleaners are useful to the "average computer user", do
not cause more damage than good (in fact, have never caused damage of all
the machines I have used it on and will not do so).

Useful for what? Do you recognize the word 'can'? They can cause damage.
Since that is a possibility, why chance it?
Great that registry cleaners haven't caused damage on your machines BUT,
what about the other millions of machines?

Whatever is going to cause computer problems will not be eliminated by
not useing a registry cleaner - that's a silly statement.

I did not say that! I said by not using a registry cleaner you eliminate one
source
of possibly rendering your computer useless.

The very

worst that happens when a reputable registry cleaner is used is Nothing
noticeable, usually because the work it did had nothing to do with the
cause of the problems being chased.

Then why used it and risk damage?

Since everything you said is untrue, has nothing to back it up and never
has,, and is otherwise just misinformation, it makes all kinds of sense to
me to point that out to the masses who might be gullible enough to believe
you. Most thinking people know better anyway.

You continue to say what I and many others have said is untrue and
misinformation.
Do you ignore all the posters that have experienced problems with a registry
cleaner?
Post your statistics on 'most thinking people'. You only? Give me a break.

Also, I have not ranted and raved; only you have done that as is obvious
above.

I suggest you go back and read all your 'misinformation' posts.

I simply state true facts based on many years experience and

research, particularly with XP; too bad you can't say the same thing.

You say true facts, OK, verify them.

There is nothing to back up or support your contentions while there is a
plethora of information from a multitude of sources saying you are wrong.

Good grief you got that one exactly backwards. Don't you read these
newsgroups?
Perhaps you don't comprehend? Do you have some kind of handicap?

Puppets and parrots need not apply; no openings left.

For what? To spread your 'misinformation' that can cause problems for many
users?
NOT INTERESTED!

 

[Unknown]

A feel???????? Good grief don't tell me you're a ---------

 

[Unknown]

OK, Lets hear it from you---How do registry cleaners function???

 

[someone]

Personally, I would not trust any poster who writes "true facts." As
opposed to "false facts" or "true lies"? But I'm not posting here just to
make that comment. I have a question about cccleaner registry optimizer.
Cccleaner has an option to clean the registry, but states it is not a
defragment of the registry nor does it remove any entries. It merely
eliminates wasted spaces. Would it be safe to use that? And I suppose that
even if safe, why would I want to?

 

[R. McCarty]

It removes Blank or White Space. Typically over time the Registry
expands, as data is removed the empty areas are left. A compact
operation removes the white space making the Registry smaller. A
program called NT Reg Opt will also accomplish this. Normally a
first time compaction will yield a 3-7% reduction in overall Registry
size. Even compacted don't expect significant or noticeable gains in
performance, more of a housekeeping chore.

NTRegOpt ( Download and Info ) here:
http://www.larshederer.homepage.t-online.de/erunt/