Can't start Windows after installing new motherboard!!!

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Guest

Hi! I've recently installed a new motherboard, ATI Radeon graphics card and
memory into my XP system, and now I can't seem to load anything!! I've looked
on the web and the problem seems to be with the motherboard. Not only that,
but the BIOS is... scrambled... its in English, but half the letters aren't
right. O's get replaced with G's, so it can be quite hard to make out the
BIOS. Is this faulty?

The computer will load until I'm presented with a message saying Windows
wasn't shut down properly (hard to read the scrabled letters) and I'm given
some options:
Safe Mode, Safe Mode w/ Networking, Safe Mode Command Prompt (I think), Last
Known Good Configiration, and Start Windows Normally. Regardless of which one
I choose, the computer restarts and comes back to the same spot.

While the computer starts up, I can access the BIOS (again scrambled) and
check startup orders and stuff, but thats all.

I tried inserting the XP CD to boot from that. It does load setup - as its
loading you can hit F6 or something for the "Automated Recovery Process"
(scrambled again - not sure), but that asks for a startup disk that I don't
have). Left to its own device, though, setup continues to load but eventually
reaches a blue screen with a stop-error, 0x0000007B....

I can't seem to be able to do much - even the command prompt seems
unaccesible so I cn't even format the hard-drive and setup won't let me
reinstall. What can I do?
 
G

Guest

If you're seeing the BIOS scrambled then the issue is with the motherboard.
Windows isn't even awake at the time you go into the BIOS.
 
B

Beck

Ratmuffin said:
Hi! I've recently installed a new motherboard, ATI Radeon graphics
card and memory into my XP system, and now I can't seem to load
anything!! I've looked on the web and the problem seems to be with
the motherboard. Not only that, but the BIOS is... scrambled... its
in English, but half the letters aren't right. O's get replaced with
G's, so it can be quite hard to make out the BIOS. Is this faulty?

The computer will load until I'm presented with a message saying
Windows wasn't shut down properly (hard to read the scrabled letters)
and I'm given some options:
Safe Mode, Safe Mode w/ Networking, Safe Mode Command Prompt (I
think), Last Known Good Configiration, and Start Windows Normally.
Regardless of which one I choose, the computer restarts and comes
back to the same spot.

While the computer starts up, I can access the BIOS (again scrambled)
and check startup orders and stuff, but thats all.

I tried inserting the XP CD to boot from that. It does load setup -
as its loading you can hit F6 or something for the "Automated
Recovery Process" (scrambled again - not sure), but that asks for a
startup disk that I don't have). Left to its own device, though,
setup continues to load but eventually reaches a blue screen with a
stop-error, 0x0000007B....

I can't seem to be able to do much - even the command prompt seems
unaccesible so I cn't even format the hard-drive and setup won't let
me reinstall. What can I do?

Does the motherboard contain integrated graphics card?
Its possible that windows is getting confused about which graphics card to
display as you have fitted another one to it. Check the motherboard manual
to see if it has a graphics card. If it has, remove your new one and try to
boot windows with just the new motherboard and integrated graphics. If you
get a successful boot, you then need to disable the onboard card when you
install the new card. This can sometimes be done by the bios but normally
disabling the motherboard graphics requires changing a jumper pin on the
board. Again refer to the motherboard manual regarding disabling the card.
 
D

Doug Kanter

Ratmuffin said:
Hi! I've recently installed a new motherboard, ATI Radeon graphics card
and
memory into my XP system, and now I can't seem to load anything!! I've
looked
on the web and the problem seems to be with the motherboard. Not only
that,
but the BIOS is... scrambled... its in English, but half the letters
aren't
right. O's get replaced with G's, so it can be quite hard to make out the
BIOS. Is this faulty?

The computer will load until I'm presented with a message saying Windows
wasn't shut down properly (hard to read the scrabled letters) and I'm
given
some options:
Safe Mode, Safe Mode w/ Networking, Safe Mode Command Prompt (I think),
Last
Known Good Configiration, and Start Windows Normally. Regardless of which
one
I choose, the computer restarts and comes back to the same spot.

While the computer starts up, I can access the BIOS (again scrambled) and
check startup orders and stuff, but thats all.

I tried inserting the XP CD to boot from that. It does load setup - as its
loading you can hit F6 or something for the "Automated Recovery Process"
(scrambled again - not sure), but that asks for a startup disk that I
don't
have). Left to its own device, though, setup continues to load but
eventually
reaches a blue screen with a stop-error, 0x0000007B....

I can't seem to be able to do much - even the command prompt seems
unaccesible so I cn't even format the hard-drive and setup won't let me
reinstall. What can I do?


Windows does not like major hardware changes. You'll probably have to
reinstall.
 
G

Guest

The motherboard does not contain any onboard graphics, so that isn't the
issue. Would be nice if i was that simple though! I've looked on the internet
and their are a lot of articles regarding XP not liking a change of
motherboards. Problem is there doesn't seem much I can do about that now.
 
G

Guest

Windows does not like major hardware changes. You'll probably have to
reinstall.

Well I'd love to do that, except setup won't run and I'm unable to access
the command prompt.
 
B

Beck

Ratmuffin said:
The motherboard does not contain any onboard graphics, so that isn't
the issue. Would be nice if i was that simple though! I've looked on
the internet and their are a lot of articles regarding XP not liking
a change of motherboards. Problem is there doesn't seem much I can do
about that now.

Have you got the original video card - the one you replaced? Perhaps its
worth putting that back in, allowing windows to detect the new motherboard
and then doing the graphics card after that.
 
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Doug Kanter

Ratmuffin said:
Well I'd love to do that, except setup won't run and I'm unable to access
the command prompt.

Go to www.bootdisk.com. Create a basic DOS boot disk. You should be able to
get that far. Boot using the floppy, and be sure to choose "Boot with CD-ROM
support", so you know you can run setup from the CD.

Obviously, there's more to it than this. But, the first step here is to
isolate your problem by getting XP out of the way as a cause.
 
K

kurttrail

Ratmuffin said:
Hi! I've recently installed a new motherboard, ATI Radeon graphics
card and memory into my XP system, and now I can't seem to load
anything!! I've looked on the web and the problem seems to be with
the motherboard. Not only that, but the BIOS is... scrambled... its
in English, but half the letters aren't right. O's get replaced with
G's, so it can be quite hard to make out the BIOS. Is this faulty?

The computer will load until I'm presented with a message saying
Windows wasn't shut down properly (hard to read the scrabled letters)
and I'm given some options:
Safe Mode, Safe Mode w/ Networking, Safe Mode Command Prompt (I
think), Last Known Good Configiration, and Start Windows Normally.
Regardless of which one I choose, the computer restarts and comes
back to the same spot.

While the computer starts up, I can access the BIOS (again scrambled)
and check startup orders and stuff, but thats all.

I tried inserting the XP CD to boot from that. It does load setup -
as its loading you can hit F6 or something for the "Automated
Recovery Process" (scrambled again - not sure), but that asks for a
startup disk that I don't have). Left to its own device, though,
setup continues to load but eventually reaches a blue screen with a
stop-error, 0x0000007B....

I can't seem to be able to do much - even the command prompt seems
unaccesible so I cn't even format the hard-drive and setup won't let
me reinstall. What can I do?

If your BIOS is showing scrambled letters, something is corrupted.
Could be the video card or the mobo. Time to get cranking on calling up
support for those devices.

--
Peace!
Kurt Kirsch
Self-anointed Moderator
http://microscum.com
"It'll soon shake your Windows
And rattle your walls
For the times they are a-changin'."
 
G

Guest

Go to www.bootdisk.com. Create a basic DOS boot disk. You should be able to
get that far. Boot using the floppy, and be sure to choose "Boot with CD-ROM
support", so you know you can run setup from the CD.

Obviously, there's more to it than this. But, the first step here is to
isolate your problem by getting XP out of the way as a cause.

The computer does have CD-ROM support already. I've tried running setup from
he XP CD. It runs through its files and comes up with the stop error.
0x0000007B... It asks to run chkdisk and do a virus scan. I can't do
either unless I reach a command prompt. How can I format the computer to
start fresh?
 
G

Guest

Have you got the original video card - the one you replaced? Perhaps its
worth putting that back in, allowing windows to detect the new motherboard
and then doing the graphics card after that.

The original video card won't fit the new motherboard - it doesn't have an
AGP slot, so I can't try that anyway. There haven't been an grapic card
errors that I've noticed, so I'm pretty sure thats not the issue
 
B

Beck

Ratmuffin said:
The computer does have CD-ROM support already. I've tried running
setup from he XP CD. It runs through its files and comes up with the
stop error. 0x0000007B... It asks to run chkdisk and do a virus
scan. I can't do either unless I reach a command prompt. How can I
format the computer to start fresh?

This may be of help, or no help at all. But it explains the probable causes
of that error and possible fixes.
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;324103
 
G

Guest

Mmm I reckon - however I can read the majority of the BIOS, just with a
little difficulty. The problem at hand is getting my computer to load
windows. Thanks anyway!
 
R

R. McCarty

Did you check BIOS before making all connections to the new MB ?
You may have an issue with a "Short" on the bottom side of the MB.
Always a good idea to bench test a MB/CPU before actually placing
it permanently in the case. Showing garbled text indicates some type
of issue that needs resolving before attempting to re-install XP.
 
B

Beck

Ratmuffin said:
The computer does have CD-ROM support already. I've tried running
setup from he XP CD. It runs through its files and comes up with the
stop error. 0x0000007B... It asks to run chkdisk and do a virus
scan. I can't do either unless I reach a command prompt. How can I
format the computer to start fresh?

Have you tried starting the PC with a floppy bootdisc? You can create one
on the computer you are using now.
Here are instructions on how to do it if you do not already know.
http://www.computerhope.com/boot.htm

Firstly though I would check your motherboard connections. Unplug
everything from the motherboard including all cables and memory. Make sure
the motherboard is correctly seated into the tower and check for lose screw
underneath in the casing, these little blighters can go astray and get
lodged in the most unfortunate places - they could be causing a short.
Then one by one, reseat all connectors and add back the memory and graphics
card. As Kurtrail says, because the bios is affected this is more likely to
be a motherboard problem and not windows. So your first look is at the
motherboard - whether its connected correctly and maybe think to the
possibility that it is faulty.
 
G

Guest

That help-site relates to the issue, but is assuming you chose to initiate
setup, and that you can load Windows, which I can't. Every time I'm given the
choice on how to load windows, regardless of what a choose (safe mode or
normal, etc), the computer restarts and lands me back at the the same point,
going in circles it seems...
 
D

Doug Kanter

Ratmuffin said:
The computer does have CD-ROM support already. I've tried running setup
from
he XP CD. It runs through its files and comes up with the stop error.
0x0000007B... It asks to run chkdisk and do a virus scan. I can't do
either unless I reach a command prompt. How can I format the computer to
start fresh?

The problem with using the XP CD is that it's trying to run XP. It doesn't
matter where you run XP from - if it's experiencing problems with the
hardware. And, even though the machine has CD support, you'll still need to
make sure you have it when creating a boot disk. Otherwise, when you type D:
(or E:, or whatever) from the command prompt, you'll get an error message.

The basic idea is this:

1) Create a boot disk on a floppy. It cannot contain the XP OS - must be
basic DOS OS. It can probably be done on a CD, but it's not something I've
tried. Probably more info at www.bootdisk.com.

2) Boot using the floppy (or CD). Since the entire OS exists only on the
floppy, you'll end up with a command prompt, and that's about it. It's all
you need.

3) Insert the XP CD and run the setup from there.
 
G

Guest

Nup - no screws loose there!! Ah well, I'll get it taken into for some
proffesonals to have a look at. You could be right, the mothrboard culd quite
possibly be dogy, especially by the way its behaving
 

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