Can't seem to install XP Pro (Ver. 2002) onto new HP Quad Core PC

S

Scott

For the past 2 weeks, I have been trying to install a full version XP Pro
from 2002 onto my new HP Quad Core PC. I have tried to install it on a
separate HD and a second partition on the new HD that also contains Vista 64
without success.

The XP disc seems to load the beginning drivers just fine, but as soon as
the message at the bottom of the screen says its loading Windows Set-up, I
get the BSOD. The usual errors are there...stopped install so pc would not
be harmed...run CHKDSK (which I did and no errors)...error code with lots of
zeros and x's.

Is it possible that the 2002 version of XP that I have does not contain the
drivers needed for the new PC. If this is an issue, anyway I can fix that?
 
J

JS

First check the HP web site to see if there are XP drivers for your model.
as some new Vista based computers no longer support XP and therefore
you will not find any XP drivers. If there are XP versions of the drivers
then download them and have them ready for when you install XP.
(The drivers you need are for your motherboard, video card, sound card,
Etc.)

Next create a slipstreamed version of your Windows CD integrating either
XP SP2 or SP3. I use AutoStreamer,
it's easy to use and for the most part self explanatory. Use the
slipstreamed
CD to install XP.

Auto Streamer Guide and Download Sites:
http://www.simplyguides.net/guides/using_autostreamer/using_autostreamer.shtml
http://fileforum.betanews.com/detail/1092632287/1

Windows SP2 Download
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/...be-3b8e-4f30-8245-9e368d3cdb5a&DisplayLang=en

Where to download SP3
SP3 file download:
(File is large but will only install components that you PC requires)
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/...a8-5e76-401f-be08-1e1555d4f3d4&DisplayLang=en

Create a Slip Stream version of Windows XP using SP2
http://www.webtree.ca/windowsxp/slipstream.htm
http://www.theeldergeek.com/slipstreamed_xpsp2_cd.htm

Create a Slip Stream version of Windows XP using SP3
http://www.webtree.ca/windowsxp/slipstream.htm (Using AutoStreamer)
http://www.theeldergeek.com/slipstreamed_xpsp3_cd_final.htm
http://www.winsupersite.com/showcase/xpsp3_slipstream.asp

Note: The slipstreamed CD you create will not include any specific drivers
for your motherboard, audio, video, network, etc., so have the drivers I
mentioned earlier ready.

Finally see the Clean Install info below for additional info.

How to do a Clean Install of Windows XP
Start by changing the BIOS setting to Boot from CD drive first.
Then see below:

From Michael Steven's: http://www.michaelstevenstech.com/cleanxpinstall.html
more info: http://windowsxp.mvps.org/XPClean.htm
and: http://www.theeldergeek.com/clean_installation_of_windows_xp.htm
also: http://www.bootdisk.com/

JS
www.pagestart.com
 
B

Bruce Chambers

Scott said:
For the past 2 weeks, I have been trying to install a full version XP Pro
from 2002 onto my new HP Quad Core PC. I have tried to install it on a
separate HD and a second partition on the new HD that also contains Vista 64
without success.

The XP disc seems to load the beginning drivers just fine, but as soon as
the message at the bottom of the screen says its loading Windows Set-up, I
get the BSOD. The usual errors are there...stopped install so pc would not
be harmed...run CHKDSK (which I did and no errors)...error code with lots of
zeros and x's.

Is it possible that the 2002 version of XP that I have does not contain the
drivers needed for the new PC.
Click to expand...


Not only possible, but so highly likely that it reaches the point of
certainty.

If this is an issue, anyway I can fix that?
Click to expand...


Contact HP and ask if they provide WinXP device drivers for the
computer's divers internal components. If HP doesn't offer the drivers
(and they probably won't) your final recourse would be to check with
each individual manufacturer of each individual component to see if
_they_ provide WinXP drivers. If that fails, you won't be able to
install WinXP on the machine.


--

Bruce Chambers

Help us help you:


http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx/kb/555375

They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary
safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. ~Benjamin Franklin

Many people would rather die than think; in fact, most do. ~Bertrand Russell

The philosopher has never killed any priests, whereas the priest has
killed a great many philosophers.
~ Denis Diderot
 
S

Scott

Thanks for the great info.

I contacted HP as their site says my PC is a Vista PC. The online tech guy
was nice enough to send me links to all the third party sites where the XP
drivers would be. If I download these files, and launch the .exe files,
they're not going to over write my Vista drivers with these XP drivers while
I'm in Vista, will they?
 
U

Unknown

One thing often overlooked! Disconnect all external devices before
attempting to install an OS. IE printers, DSL modems etc. Leave only the
keyboard mouse and monitor attached..
 
J

Jim

Scott said:
Thanks for the great info.

I contacted HP as their site says my PC is a Vista PC. The online tech
guy
was nice enough to send me links to all the third party sites where the XP
drivers would be. If I download these files, and launch the .exe files,
they're not going to over write my Vista drivers with these XP drivers
while
I'm in Vista, will they?
Click to expand...
Yes, they will, and you may not like what happens after that.
The procedure is:
Copy the downloaded drivers, etc, to a CD
Set the computer to boot from the CD
Insert XP Installation disc into the CD
Install XP
Insert download CD into the CD drive
Install the drivers into XP
Install programs that you wish to use with XP (and you will need
installation media for all)
You are now ready to attend to all of the housecleaning duties.
Jim
 
J

JS

Don't attempt to install the XP drivers when running Vista.

The correct time to install the drivers is when you are installing XP
"to that separate partition" (F6 key, typical for installing SATA drivers)
and then after you finish installing and boot to XP you then install
the remaining drivers (Motherboard chipset drivers - do this first)
and finally the Sound, Network, Video, Etc. drivers.

Also read this:
No restore points are available when you use Windows Vista
or Server 2008 in a dual-boot configuration together
with an earlier Windows operating system
(Meaning Vista/XP dual boot)
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/926185

JS
 
S

Scott

But when I start the XP install and hit F6 to install the drivers, the only
option is to use a floppy disk. There doesn't appear to be a way to load the
drivers from the CD-Rom.

Also, I tried that Autostreamer program you mentioned and I keep getting
stuck at the XP-SP2 file. I downloaded the file from Microsoft using the
link you provided then browsed to the file in Autostreamer and it says that I
haven't identified a service pack file to slip stream. I tried renaming it,
I tried extracting it into a folder and then pointed Autostream to the
update.exe file, but nothing seems to work. Do you think this might be Vista
64 compatibility issue?

This is turning out to be a lot more work than I thought. I bought the quad
core with V 64 to future proof myself for a while, but it might have been too
soon. Where's my Commodore 64!!?? :)
 
S

Scott

I tried nLite, very easy to use. However, I'm still stuck on the driver
thing. How am I supposed to get the actual driver files when they come all
packed up in an install.exe file first?

I did manage to find the chipset driver in the right format, but that was
it. So I tried nLite and added this driver. Gave the disc a whirl, and
still came up with the same BSOD error.

In my mind, it just shouldn't be this difficult to install XP. And HP is no
help, because they don't support XP for the PC I bought. And Microsoft told
me that HP is the only free support available to me.

I'm about ready to call a professional and pay to have them do it.
 
B

Bruce Chambers

Scott said:
But when I start the XP install and hit F6 to install the drivers, the only
option is to use a floppy disk. There doesn't appear to be a way to load the
drivers from the CD-Rom.
Click to expand...


Correct. That's the way WinXP's installer was written. You'll have to
place the necessary drivers themselves (not their executables or
installers) on floppy diskettes for use during this process.

Also, I tried that Autostreamer program you mentioned and I keep getting
stuck at the XP-SP2 file. I downloaded the file from Microsoft using the
link you provided then browsed to the file in Autostreamer and it says that I
haven't identified a service pack file to slip stream. I tried renaming it,
I tried extracting it into a folder and then pointed Autostream to the
update.exe file, but nothing seems to work. Do you think this might be Vista
64 compatibility issue?
Click to expand...

"Update.exe" isn't the Service Pack, nor part of it. It's a routine
used to download and simultaneously install the SP onto a running
system. You need to download and use the full service pack:

Windows XP Service Pack 2 for IT Professionals and Developers
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/...be-3b8e-4f30-8245-9e368d3cdb5a&DisplayLang=en

This is turning out to be a lot more work than I thought. I bought the quad
core with V 64 to future proof myself for a while, but it might have been too
soon. Where's my Commodore 64!!?? :)
Click to expand...


Can't help wondering.... How does trying to install a legacy OS
(WinXP) onto an incompatible modern hardware platform constitute "future
proofing?" Seems to me like you're trying to stay in the past, instead.


--

Bruce Chambers

Help us help you:


http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx/kb/555375

They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary
safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. ~Benjamin Franklin

Many people would rather die than think; in fact, most do. ~Bertrand Russell

The philosopher has never killed any priests, whereas the priest has
killed a great many philosophers.
~ Denis Diderot
 
S

Scott

I wouldn't need XP if the company I worked for would upgrade to Vista. Also,
in running Vista 64, I'm running into Check Point and Cisco VPN programs not
creating a 64-bit version of their software. So until the companies move
forward, I will need to go backward for a little while.

In any case, I do appreciate your help in this matter.
 
S

Scott

I gave the bios change a try. There was no SATA choice but AHCI was there,
but not selected. It was set to RAID. I changed it to AHCI just to see if
anything new happened. Nothing.

I also read the microsoft support site on the error too. I'm no further
ahead reading that.

I guess I have a decision to make. Return the PC in the next 2 days, or
live with it without the XP and hope that other companies soon catch up and
make Vista 64 compatible. Or maybe I should switch back to Vista 32 (I have
a full version of that too on the old machine).

If I did return the new one, any thoughts on what I should get instead?
 
J

JS

Try to find a PC that supports both XP and Vista.
Look for a downgrade option from the vendor that
in essence supplies you with a copy of XP along with Vista.

A quad or even dual core cpu is not the issue with Vista but
memory is (for Vista at least 2GB but more is better) and
a good video card are, as you probably already know.

Above all the manufacture's warranty and support must be valid
if you install XP, Vista or both!

JS
 
J

JS

Oh, and order the PC with a built in floppy drive,
it may just sit there most of the time but you never
know ;-)

JS
 
S

Scott

Thanks for all your help today. I think I am going to bring this one back
and go to a few independent computer stores and ask them to build me one to
suit my needs instead of doing what I did today.

Thanks again,
Scott
 
J

JS

Do your homework on Independents, some are good and some are not.
You might consider building your own if you have the time.

Good luck.
JS
 

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