Can't open a second page or link without a Fault causing FP to clo

[Guest]

<sigh> The directory was apparently a mixed bag of read only and not read only files/folders. I cleared the tab for all files, folders and subfolders, checked; then went back to the beginning & cleared all *vt's, cache, temp, etc. No luck. As soon as I added the nav bar it crashed out again same way.

-sd

Using Windows Explorer Make sure the folders / files you "moved" do not have any read only attributes still set (if moved from a CD)

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| Yes. I first added all of my top level pages to the navigation view, then added the nav bar. Then after I'd had my next crash and
was trying to pin down where this was happening, went through these steps:
|
| 1. cleared everything as per your previous instructions (except for reinstalling IE again)
| 2. added top, left and bottom borders...and tested opening a few pages.
| 3. added a graphic banner into the top border and tested.
| 4. added a left side nav bar and tested...this is where the fault reappeared.
| 5. after reopening FP, I removed the nav bar and retested...and could open multiple pages again.
|
| Unless there's some other coincidental thing going on, somewhere/somehow this seems to be related to the navigation. (I did
recalculate hyperlinks several times during this process.) Is it possible that in moving all of the files/folders from the original
machine's HDD to this one, something is deep in the background related to where everything lives?
|
| (All of my program data (for all programs) live in one main directory off the root. When I copied the data over, the entire
directory was copied. No names were changed in the process...all are legal with respect to no-spaces and punctuation. )
|
| Thx,
|
| -sd
|
| "Stefan B Rusynko" wrote:
|
| > Are you adding a nav bar based on Navigation
| > - do you have any pages in Nav view and are the file names (not titles in nav view) legal (w/o any punctuation or spaces in file
| > names)
| >
| >
| > _____________________________________________
| > SBR @ ENJOY (-: [ Microsoft MVP - FrontPage ]
| > "Warning - Using the F1 Key will not break anything!" (-;
| > To find the best Newsgroup for FrontPage support see:
| > http://www.net-sites.com/sitebuilder/newsgroups.asp
| > _____________________________________________
| >
| >
| > | This was helpful... here's where I've ended up. I followed ALL of your instructions and ended up with a web folder with all of
my
| > files, graphics, etc. I can open multiple pages with no fault.
| > |
| > | I find I can add back in the shared borders with no faults. However, as soon as I add a navigation bar to the shared borders,
I'm
| > zapped with the same problem. If I then take out the navigation bar, I'm okay.
| > |
| > | Does this help?
| > |
| > | -sd
| > |
| > | "Stefan B Rusynko" wrote:
| > |
| > | > When you FTP'd it, did you include your old shared borders folder
| > | > - if so before you open it in FP rename the shared border files in the _borders folder
| > | > - then delete any and all _vt* files/folders and _derived folders (if you had or FTP'd them)
| > | >
| > | > Then do some system clean up
| > | >
| > | > 1) In Windows Explorer Find and delete all FP Temp Files
| > | > Usually in C:\WINDOWS\Temp and %USERPROFILE%\Local Settings\Temp
| > | > 2) In Windows Explorer Find and delete all hidden *.web files
| > | > Usually in %USERPROFILE%\Application Data\Microsoft\Web Server Extensions\Cache
| > | > 3) Run a Repair on IE
| > | > (see http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=318378 )
| > | > 4) Install all Service Packs for your OS, IE, MS Office and your Video card
| > | > (Windows Update and Office Update sites, plus your video card supplier site)
| > | > 5) Clear your IE cache (temp files),
| > | > 6) Open your folder as a FP Web/Site and run a Tools Recalculate Hyperlinks
| > | >
| > | >
| > | > --
| > | >
| > | > _____________________________________________
| > | > SBR @ ENJOY (-: [ Microsoft MVP - FrontPage ]
| > | > "Warning - Using the F1 Key will not break anything!" (-;
| > | > To find the best Newsgroup for FrontPage support see:
| > | > http://www.net-sites.com/sitebuilder/newsgroups.asp
| > | > _____________________________________________
| > | >
| > | >
| > | > | I put it into a plain non-web folder. Then in FP, did a 'convert to web' on the folder.
| > | > |
| > | > | In the last hour, I installed a temporary copy of FP on my WinXP laptop and copied the web into the My Webs folder (as a
| > subweb I
| > | > guess). The first page that I opened worked fine, then got the same error message when opening a second page. What I'm
hoping is
| > | > that I've eliminated any OS or machine-specific problem??? What the machines have in common is WinXPsp1, IE6sp1, OfficeXPsp3
and
| > all
| > | > of the lastest Windows OS and Office patches. I also tried opening another of my websites, however, and it too caused a
fault in
| > the
| > | > same way, so it doesn't 'appear' that it is simply a matter of a corrupted site.
| > | > |
| > | > | The event viewer shows the following: Faulting application frontpg.exe version 10.0.2623.0, faulting module unknown,
version
| > | > 0.0.0.0, fault address 0x00037e00.
| > | > |
| > | > | This has been pretty consistent, except that the fault address varies.
| > | > |
| > | > | Does any of this ring any bells for you?
| > | > |
| > | > | -sd
| > | > |
| > | > | "Thomas A. Rowe" wrote:
| > | > |
| > | > | > Are you saying the you download the content directly into a open FP web or that you put it in a
| > | > | > folder on your HD, then open that folder via FP?
| > | > | >
| > | > | > The second way above is the correct way.
| > | > | >
| > | > | > --
| > | > | > ==============================================
| > | > | > Thomas A. Rowe (Microsoft MVP - FrontPage)
| > | > | > WEBMASTER Resources(tm)
| > | > | >
| > | > | > FrontPage Resources, WebCircle, MS KB Quick Links, etc.
| > | > | > ==============================================
| > | > | > To assist you in getting the best answers for FrontPage support see:
| > | > | > http://www.net-sites.com/sitebuilder/newsgroups.asp
| > | > | >
| > | > | > | > | > | > > Nothing special...just a standard folder. I then did a 'convert to web' on the folder.
| > | > | > Unfortunately, when I then attempted to add a shared border, I got the same 'needs to close' error.
| > | > | > Thoughts?
| > | > | > >
| > | > | > > -sd
| > | > | > >
| > | > | > > PS Thanks for sticking with me on this!
| > | > | > >
| > | > | > > "Thomas A. Rowe" wrote:
| > | > | > >
| > | > | > > > When you download the site via FTP to your computer, what folder did you place it in?
| > | > | > > >
| > | > | > > > The problem with publishing to a server that doesn't have the FP extensions, is that if you ever
| > | > | > > > loose your local copy and have download a copy via FTP back to your machine, is that you will
| > | > | > have
| > | > | > > > reapply any themes, recreate your navigation structure/links and shared borders.
| > | > | > > >
| > | > | > > > --
| > | > | > > > ==============================================
| > | > | > > > Thomas A. Rowe (Microsoft MVP - FrontPage)
| > | > | > > > WEBMASTER Resources(tm)
| > | > | > > >
| > | > | > > > FrontPage Resources, WebCircle, MS KB Quick Links, etc.
| > | > | > > > ==============================================
| > | > | > > > To assist you in getting the best answers for FrontPage support see:
| > | > | > > > http://www.net-sites.com/sitebuilder/newsgroups.asp
| > | > | > > >
| > | > | > > > | > | > | > > > > I've been trying to follow his advice, but as I wrote, my hosting server is an ftp server and
| > | > | > does
| > | > | > > > not allow me to attach to it via http, so I can't publish from the live site. I DID, however,
| > | > | > use
| > | > | > > > WS-FTP to download the site to my computer...but lost the navigation & shared borders. As soon
| > | > | > as I
| > | > | > > > attempted to add a shared border back in to these pages, I got the same "Frontpage has
| > | > | > encountered a
| > | > | > > > problem and needs to close' message.
| > | > | > > > >
| > | > | > > > > I'm really stuck. I need to update our .org site and am off the air until I can find a fix to
| > | > | > > > this!
| > | > | > > > >
| > | > | > > > > -sd
| > | > | > > > >
| > | > | > > > > "Thomas A. Rowe" wrote:
| > | > | > > > >
| > | > | > > > > > See Jim Buyens reply to your prior post.
| > | > | > > > > >
| > | > | > > > > > --
| > | > | > > > > > ==============================================
| > | > | > > > > > Thomas A. Rowe (Microsoft MVP - FrontPage)
| > | > | > > > > > WEBMASTER Resources(tm)
| > | > | > > > > >
| > | > | > > > > > FrontPage Resources, WebCircle, MS KB Quick Links, etc.
| > | > | > > > > > ==============================================
| > | > | > > > > > To assist you in getting the best answers for FrontPage support see:
| > | > | > > > > > http://www.net-sites.com/sitebuilder/newsgroups.asp
| > | > | > > > > >
| > | > | > > > > > | > | > | > > > > > > Can you help me understand why I can't use the same data folders with the new copy of FP?
| > | > | > Is
| > | > | > > > there
| > | > | > > > > > something behind the scenes going on that isn't obvious?
| > | > | > > > > > >
| > | > | > > > > > > I can't pull down from the live site as it is an ftp site and FP doesn't seem to support
| > | > | > that.
| > | > | > > > I
| > | > | > > > > > did try publishing the site from the old directory, but trying to use the files in the new
| > | > | > > > folder
| > | > | > > > > > causes the same fault.
| > | > | > > > > > >
| > | > | > > > > > > "Thomas A. Rowe" wrote:
| > | > | > > > > > >
| > | > | > > > > > > > You need to publish them either from the old machine or from the live site the new
| > | > | > machine
| > | > | > > > in
| > | > | > > > > > order
| > | > | > > > > > > > to maintain the web structure.
| > | > | > > > > > > >
| > | > | > > > > > > > --
| > | > | > > > > > > > ==============================================
| > | > | > > > > > > > Thomas A. Rowe (Microsoft MVP - FrontPage)
| > | > | > > > > > > > WEBMASTER Resources(tm)
| > | > | > > > > > > >
| > | > | > > > > > > > FrontPage Resources, WebCircle, MS KB Quick Links, etc.
| > | > | > > > > > > > ==============================================
| > | > | > > > > > > > To assist you in getting the best answers for FrontPage support see:
| > | > | > > > > > > > http://www.net-sites.com/sitebuilder/newsgroups.asp
| > | > | > > > > > > >
| > | > | > > > > > > > | > | > | > > > > > > > > I installed Frontpage on the new computer, then moved all of my data files to the new
| > | > | > > > computer
| > | > | > > > > > as
| > | > | > > > > > > > well.
| > | > | > > > > > > > >
| > | > | > > > > > > > > One other problem found tonight. When opening web pages in IE6SP1, I seem to be
| > | > | > getting an
| > | > | > > > > > > > occasional 'debug' error that points to a java line. I don't have enough expertise to
| > | > | > know
| > | > | > > > if
| > | > | > > > > > there
| > | > | > > > > > > > is any relation to the Frontpage fault. <?>
| > | > | > > > > > > > >
| > | > | > > > > > > > > -Steve
| > | > | > > > > > > > >
| > | > | > > > > > > > > "Thomas A. Rowe" wrote:
| > | > | > > > > > > > >
| > | > | > > > > > > > > > How did you move the site from the old computer to the new computer?
| > | > | > > > > > > > > >
| > | > | > > > > > > > > > --
| > | > | > > > > > > > > > ==============================================
| > | > | > > > > > > > > > Thomas A. Rowe (Microsoft MVP - FrontPage)
| > | > | > > > > > > > > > WEBMASTER Resources(tm)
| > | > | > > > > > > > > >
| > | > | > > > > > > > > > FrontPage Resources, WebCircle, MS KB Quick Links, etc.
| > | > | > > > > > > > > > ==============================================
| > | > | > > > > > > > > > To assist you in getting the best answers for FrontPage support see:
| > | > | > > > > > > > > > http://www.net-sites.com/sitebuilder/newsgroups.asp
| > | > | > > > > > > > > >
| > | > | > > > > > > > > > | > | > | > > > > > > > > > > Yikes! All of a sudden, I can't open any second page in Frontpage 2002 or click on
| > | > | > a
| > | > | > > > link
| > | > | > > > > > > > without
| > | > | > > > > > > > > > getting a fault causing Frontpage to close. I did move my sites to a new computer a
| > | > | > > > couple
| > | > | > > > > > of
| > | > | > > > > > > > weeks
| > | > | > > > > > > > > > ago and reinstalled Frontpage 2002 with all of the current updates. Used it
| > | > | > succesfully
| > | > | > > > with
| > | > | > > > > > no
| > | > | > > > > > > > > > problem after that. Nothing new in Frontpage or my website pages since then. Not
| > | > | > other
| > | > | > > > > > problems
| > | > | > > > > > > > that
| > | > | > > > > > > > > > I've found in other MS programs or any other programs...only Frontpage. Using WinXP
| > | > | > > > SP1;
| > | > | > > > > > Office
| > | > | > > > > > > > XP
| > | > | > > > > > > > > > SP3.
| > | > | > > > > > > > > > >
| > | > | > > > > > > > > > > HELP!!!
| > | > | > > > > > > > > > >
| > | > | > > > > > > > > > > -sd
| > | > | > > > > > > > > > >
| > | > | > > > > > > > > > > PS A follow up to this. I've now totally uninstalled and reinstalled Frontpage.
| > | > | > I've
| > | > | > > > > > started
| > | > | > > > > > > > > > Windows in Safe Mode...nothing else running on the machine. And STILL get this
| > | > | > fault. I
| > | > | > > > can
| > | > | > > > > > open
| > | > | > > > > > > > one
| > | > | > > > > > > > > > page. Then, even if I close that page, as soon as I try to open a second or click on
| > | > | > a
| > | > | > > > link,
| > | > | > > > > > > > Fault!
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[Guest]

One more clue. I installed FP on yet another computer. This differs from the other two in that it has Office 2000 on it instead of Office 2002. Otherwise it is also a WinXP machine with all of the latest patches. The only other difference is that it did not have a copy of Mozilla Firefox installed (the other two did, although I uninstalled it from one of those and uninstalled and reinstalled FP just in case something there might have caused this...but no change).

Bottom line, I shared the web directory and connected to it from this third machine and it works fine. No problems opening up the existing site. So it's apparently not a problem with the pages/folders themselves, but something to do with FP and its interaction with the OS or other programs (OfficeXPsp3? or Firefox...these are the only two new programs/patches that are on the two machines that throw the fault, that are not on the machine that works or the old original workstation.)

Are there any reported conflicts between FP and OfficeXpsp3 or Firefox?????

-sd

<sigh> The directory was apparently a mixed bag of read only and not read only files/folders. I cleared the tab for all files, folders and subfolders, checked; then went back to the beginning & cleared all *vt's, cache, temp, etc. No luck. As soon as I added the nav bar it crashed out again same way.

-sd

Using Windows Explorer Make sure the folders / files you "moved" do not have any read only attributes still set (if moved from a CD)

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| Yes. I first added all of my top level pages to the navigation view, then added the nav bar. Then after I'd had my next crash and
was trying to pin down where this was happening, went through these steps:
|
| 1. cleared everything as per your previous instructions (except for reinstalling IE again)
| 2. added top, left and bottom borders...and tested opening a few pages.
| 3. added a graphic banner into the top border and tested.
| 4. added a left side nav bar and tested...this is where the fault reappeared.
| 5. after reopening FP, I removed the nav bar and retested...and could open multiple pages again.
|
| Unless there's some other coincidental thing going on, somewhere/somehow this seems to be related to the navigation. (I did
recalculate hyperlinks several times during this process.) Is it possible that in moving all of the files/folders from the original
machine's HDD to this one, something is deep in the background related to where everything lives?
|
| (All of my program data (for all programs) live in one main directory off the root. When I copied the data over, the entire
directory was copied. No names were changed in the process...all are legal with respect to no-spaces and punctuation. )
|
| Thx,
|
| -sd
|
| "Stefan B Rusynko" wrote:
|
| > Are you adding a nav bar based on Navigation
| > - do you have any pages in Nav view and are the file names (not titles in nav view) legal (w/o any punctuation or spaces in file
| > names)
| >
| >
| > _____________________________________________
| > SBR @ ENJOY (-: [ Microsoft MVP - FrontPage ]
| > "Warning - Using the F1 Key will not break anything!" (-;
| > To find the best Newsgroup for FrontPage support see:
| > http://www.net-sites.com/sitebuilder/newsgroups.asp
| > _____________________________________________
| >
| >
| > | This was helpful... here's where I've ended up. I followed ALL of your instructions and ended up with a web folder with all of
my
| > files, graphics, etc. I can open multiple pages with no fault.
| > |
| > | I find I can add back in the shared borders with no faults. However, as soon as I add a navigation bar to the shared borders,
I'm
| > zapped with the same problem. If I then take out the navigation bar, I'm okay.
| > |
| > | Does this help?
| > |
| > | -sd
| > |
| > | "Stefan B Rusynko" wrote:
| > |
| > | > When you FTP'd it, did you include your old shared borders folder
| > | > - if so before you open it in FP rename the shared border files in the _borders folder
| > | > - then delete any and all _vt* files/folders and _derived folders (if you had or FTP'd them)
| > | >
| > | > Then do some system clean up
| > | >
| > | > 1) In Windows Explorer Find and delete all FP Temp Files
| > | > Usually in C:\WINDOWS\Temp and %USERPROFILE%\Local Settings\Temp
| > | > 2) In Windows Explorer Find and delete all hidden *.web files
| > | > Usually in %USERPROFILE%\Application Data\Microsoft\Web Server Extensions\Cache
| > | > 3) Run a Repair on IE
| > | > (see http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=318378 )
| > | > 4) Install all Service Packs for your OS, IE, MS Office and your Video card
| > | > (Windows Update and Office Update sites, plus your video card supplier site)
| > | > 5) Clear your IE cache (temp files),
| > | > 6) Open your folder as a FP Web/Site and run a Tools Recalculate Hyperlinks
| > | >
| > | >
| > | > --
| > | >
| > | > _____________________________________________
| > | > SBR @ ENJOY (-: [ Microsoft MVP - FrontPage ]
| > | > "Warning - Using the F1 Key will not break anything!" (-;
| > | > To find the best Newsgroup for FrontPage support see:
| > | > http://www.net-sites.com/sitebuilder/newsgroups.asp
| > | > _____________________________________________
| > | >
| > | >
| > | > | I put it into a plain non-web folder. Then in FP, did a 'convert to web' on the folder.
| > | > |
| > | > | In the last hour, I installed a temporary copy of FP on my WinXP laptop and copied the web into the My Webs folder (as a
| > subweb I
| > | > guess). The first page that I opened worked fine, then got the same error message when opening a second page. What I'm
hoping is
| > | > that I've eliminated any OS or machine-specific problem??? What the machines have in common is WinXPsp1, IE6sp1, OfficeXPsp3
and
| > all
| > | > of the lastest Windows OS and Office patches. I also tried opening another of my websites, however, and it too caused a
fault in
| > the
| > | > same way, so it doesn't 'appear' that it is simply a matter of a corrupted site.
| > | > |
| > | > | The event viewer shows the following: Faulting application frontpg.exe version 10.0.2623.0, faulting module unknown,
version
| > | > 0.0.0.0, fault address 0x00037e00.
| > | > |
| > | > | This has been pretty consistent, except that the fault address varies.
| > | > |
| > | > | Does any of this ring any bells for you?
| > | > |
| > | > | -sd
| > | > |
| > | > | "Thomas A. Rowe" wrote:
| > | > |
| > | > | > Are you saying the you download the content directly into a open FP web or that you put it in a
| > | > | > folder on your HD, then open that folder via FP?
| > | > | >
| > | > | > The second way above is the correct way.
| > | > | >
| > | > | > --
| > | > | > ==============================================
| > | > | > Thomas A. Rowe (Microsoft MVP - FrontPage)
| > | > | > WEBMASTER Resources(tm)
| > | > | >
| > | > | > FrontPage Resources, WebCircle, MS KB Quick Links, etc.
| > | > | > ==============================================
| > | > | > To assist you in getting the best answers for FrontPage support see:
| > | > | > http://www.net-sites.com/sitebuilder/newsgroups.asp
| > | > | >
| > | > | > | > | > | > > Nothing special...just a standard folder. I then did a 'convert to web' on the folder.
| > | > | > Unfortunately, when I then attempted to add a shared border, I got the same 'needs to close' error.
| > | > | > Thoughts?
| > | > | > >
| > | > | > > -sd
| > | > | > >
| > | > | > > PS Thanks for sticking with me on this!
| > | > | > >
| > | > | > > "Thomas A. Rowe" wrote:
| > | > | > >
| > | > | > > > When you download the site via FTP to your computer, what folder did you place it in?
| > | > | > > >
| > | > | > > > The problem with publishing to a server that doesn't have the FP extensions, is that if you ever
| > | > | > > > loose your local copy and have download a copy via FTP back to your machine, is that you will
| > | > | > have
| > | > | > > > reapply any themes, recreate your navigation structure/links and shared borders.
| > | > | > > >
| > | > | > > > --
| > | > | > > > ==============================================
| > | > | > > > Thomas A. Rowe (Microsoft MVP - FrontPage)
| > | > | > > > WEBMASTER Resources(tm)
| > | > | > > >
| > | > | > > > FrontPage Resources, WebCircle, MS KB Quick Links, etc.
| > | > | > > > ==============================================
| > | > | > > > To assist you in getting the best answers for FrontPage support see:
| > | > | > > > http://www.net-sites.com/sitebuilder/newsgroups.asp
| > | > | > > >
| > | > | > > > | > | > | > > > > I've been trying to follow his advice, but as I wrote, my hosting server is an ftp server and
| > | > | > does
| > | > | > > > not allow me to attach to it via http, so I can't publish from the live site. I DID, however,
| > | > | > use
| > | > | > > > WS-FTP to download the site to my computer...but lost the navigation & shared borders. As soon
| > | > | > as I
| > | > | > > > attempted to add a shared border back in to these pages, I got the same "Frontpage has
| > | > | > encountered a
| > | > | > > > problem and needs to close' message.
| > | > | > > > >
| > | > | > > > > I'm really stuck. I need to update our .org site and am off the air until I can find a fix to
| > | > | > > > this!
| > | > | > > > >
| > | > | > > > > -sd
| > | > | > > > >
| > | > | > > > > "Thomas A. Rowe" wrote:
| > | > | > > > >
| > | > | > > > > > See Jim Buyens reply to your prior post.
| > | > | > > > > >
| > | > | > > > > > --
| > | > | > > > > > ==============================================
| > | > | > > > > > Thomas A. Rowe (Microsoft MVP - FrontPage)
| > | > | > > > > > WEBMASTER Resources(tm)
| > | > | > > > > >
| > | > | > > > > > FrontPage Resources, WebCircle, MS KB Quick Links, etc.
| > | > | > > > > > ==============================================
| > | > | > > > > > To assist you in getting the best answers for FrontPage support see:
| > | > | > > > > > http://www.net-sites.com/sitebuilder/newsgroups.asp
| > | > | > > > > >
| > | > | > > > > > | > | > | > > > > > > Can you help me understand why I can't use the same data folders with the new copy of FP?
| > | > | > Is
| > | > | > > > there
| > | > | > > > > > something behind the scenes going on that isn't obvious?
| > | > | > > > > > >
| > | > | > > > > > > I can't pull down from the live site as it is an ftp site and FP doesn't seem to support
| > | > | > that.
| > | > | > > > I
| > | > | > > > > > did try publishing the site from the old directory, but trying to use the files in the new
| > | > | > > > folder
| > | > | > > > > > causes the same fault.
| > | > | > > > > > >
| > | > | > > > > > > "Thomas A. Rowe" wrote:
| > | > | > > > > > >
| > | > | > > > > > > > You need to publish them either from the old machine or from the live site the new
| > | > | > machine
| > | > | > > > in
| > | > | > > > > > order
| > | > | > > > > > > > to maintain the web structure.
| > | > | > > > > > > >
| > | > | > > > > > > > --
| > | > | > > > > > > > ==============================================
| > | > | > > > > > > > Thomas A. Rowe (Microsoft MVP - FrontPage)
| > | > | > > > > > > > WEBMASTER Resources(tm)
| > | > | > > > > > > >
| > | > | > > > > > > > FrontPage Resources, WebCircle, MS KB Quick Links, etc.
| > | > | > > > > > > > ==============================================
| > | > | > > > > > > > To assist you in getting the best answers for FrontPage support see:
| > | > | > > > > > > > http://www.net-sites.com/sitebuilder/newsgroups.asp
| > | > | > > > > > > >
| > | > | > > > > > > > | > | > | > > > > > > > > I installed Frontpage on the new computer, then moved all of my data files to the new
| > | > | > > > computer
| > | > | > > > > > as
| > | > | > > > > > > > well.
| > | > | > > > > > > > >
| > | > | > > > > > > > > One other problem found tonight. When opening web pages in IE6SP1, I seem to be
| > | > | > getting an
| > | > | > > > > > > > occasional 'debug' error that points to a java line. I don't have enough expertise to
| > | > | > know
| > | > | > > > if
| > | > | > > > > > there
| > | > | > > > > > > > is any relation to the Frontpage fault. <?>
| > | > | > > > > > > > >
| > | > | > > > > > > > > -Steve
| > | > | > > > > > > > >
| > | > | > > > > > > > > "Thomas A. Rowe" wrote:
| > | > | > > > > > > > >
| > | > | > > > > > > > > > How did you move the site from the old computer to the new computer?
| > | > | > > > > > > > > >
| > | > | > > > > > > > > > --
| > | > | > > > > > > > > > ==============================================
| > | > | > > > > > > > > > Thomas A. Rowe (Microsoft MVP - FrontPage)
| > | > | > > > > > > > > > WEBMASTER Resources(tm)
| > | > | > > > > > > > > >
| > | > | > > > > > > > > > FrontPage Resources, WebCircle, MS KB Quick Links, etc.
| > | > | > > > > > > > > > ==============================================
| > | > | > > > > > > > > > To assist you in getting the best answers for FrontPage support see:
| > | > | > > > > > > > > > http://www.net-sites.com/sitebuilder/newsgroups.asp
| > | > | > > > > > > > > >
| > | > | > > > > > > > > > | > | > | > > > > > > > > > > Yikes! All of a sudden, I can't open any second page in Frontpage 2002 or click on
| > | > | > a
| > | > | > > > link
| > | > | > > > > > > > without
| > | > | > > > > > > > > > getting a fault causing Frontpage to close. I did move my sites to a new computer a
| > | > | > > > couple
| > | > | > > > > > of
| > | > | > > > > > > > weeks
| > | > | > > > > > > > > > ago and reinstalled Frontpage 2002 with all of the current updates. Used it
| > | > | > succesfully
| > | > | > > > with
| > | > | > > > > > no
| > | > | > > > > > > > > > problem after that. Nothing new in Frontpage or my website pages since then. Not
| > | > | > other
| > | > | > > > > > problems
| > | > | > > > > > > > that
| > | > | > > > > > > > > > I've found in other MS programs or any other programs...only Frontpage. Using WinXP
| > | > | > > > SP1;
| > | > | > > > > > Office
| > | > | > > > > > > > XP
| > | > | > > > > > > > > > SP3.
| > | > | > > > > > > > > > >
| > | > | > > > > > > > > > > HELP!!!
| > | > | > > > > > > > > > >
| > | > | > > > > > > > > > > -sd
| > | > | > > > > > > > > > >
| > | > | > > > > > > > > > > PS A follow up to this. I've now totally uninstalled and reinstalled Frontpage.
| > | > | > I've
| > | > | > > > > > started
| > | > | > > > > > > > > > Windows in Safe Mode...nothing else running on the machine. And STILL get this
| > | > | > fault. I
| > | > | > > > can
| > | > | > > > > > open
| > | > | > > > > > > > one
| > | > | > > > > > > > > > page. Then, even if I close that page, as soon as I try to open a second or click on
| > | > | > a
| > | > | > > > link,
| > | > | > > > > > > > Fault!
| > | > | > > > > > > > > > <sigh>
| > | > | > > > > > > > > >
| > | > | > > > > > > > > >
| > | > | > > > > > > > > >
| > | > | > > > > > > >
| > | > | > > > > > > >
| > | > | > > > > > > >
| > | > | > > > > >
| > | > | > > > > >
| > | > | > > > > >
| > | > | > > >
| > | > | > > >
| > | > | > > >
| > | > | >
| > | > | >
| > | > | >
| > | >
| > | >
| > | >
| >
| >
| >

 

[Thomas A. Rowe]

Which version of FP you working with?

--
==============================================
Thomas A. Rowe (Microsoft MVP - FrontPage)
WEBMASTER Resources(tm)

FrontPage Resources, WebCircle, MS KB Quick Links, etc.
==============================================

One more clue. I installed FP on yet another computer. This differs from the other two in that it

has Office 2000 on it instead of Office 2002. Otherwise it is also a WinXP machine with all of the
latest patches. The only other difference is that it did not have a copy of Mozilla Firefox
installed (the other two did, although I uninstalled it from one of those and uninstalled and
reinstalled FP just in case something there might have caused this...but no change).

Bottom line, I shared the web directory and connected to it from this third machine and it works

fine. No problems opening up the existing site. So it's apparently not a problem with the
pages/folders themselves, but something to do with FP and its interaction with the OS or other
programs (OfficeXPsp3? or Firefox...these are the only two new programs/patches that are on the two
machines that throw the fault, that are not on the machine that works or the old original
workstation.)

Are there any reported conflicts between FP and OfficeXpsp3 or Firefox?????

-sd

cleared the tab for all files, folders and subfolders, checked; then went back to the beginning &
cleared all *vt's, cache, temp, etc. No luck. As soon as I added the nav bar it crashed out again
same way.

-sd

Using Windows Explorer Make sure the folders / files you "moved" do not have any read only attributes still set (if moved from a CD)

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| Yes. I first added all of my top level pages to the navigation view, then added the nav bar. Then after I'd had my next crash and
was trying to pin down where this was happening, went through these steps:
|
| 1. cleared everything as per your previous instructions (except for reinstalling IE again)
| 2. added top, left and bottom borders...and tested opening a few pages.
| 3. added a graphic banner into the top border and tested.
| 4. added a left side nav bar and tested...this is where the fault reappeared.
| 5. after reopening FP, I removed the nav bar and retested...and could open multiple pages again.
|
| Unless there's some other coincidental thing going on, somewhere/somehow this seems to be related to the navigation. (I did
recalculate hyperlinks several times during this process.) Is it possible that in moving all of the files/folders from the original
machine's HDD to this one, something is deep in the background related to where everything lives?
|
| (All of my program data (for all programs) live in one main directory off the root. When I copied the data over, the entire
directory was copied. No names were changed in the process...all are legal with respect to no-spaces and punctuation. )
|
| Thx,
|
| -sd
|
| "Stefan B Rusynko" wrote:
|
| > Are you adding a nav bar based on Navigation
| > - do you have any pages in Nav view and are the file names (not titles in nav view) legal (w/o any punctuation or spaces in file
| > names)
| >
| >
| > _____________________________________________
| > SBR @ ENJOY (-: [ Microsoft MVP - FrontPage ]
| > "Warning - Using the F1 Key will not break anything!" (-;
| > To find the best Newsgroup for FrontPage support see:
| > http://www.net-sites.com/sitebuilder/newsgroups.asp
| > _____________________________________________
| >
| >
| > | This was helpful... here's where I've ended up. I followed ALL of your instructions and ended up with a web folder with all of
my
| > files, graphics, etc. I can open multiple pages with no fault.
| > |
| > | I find I can add back in the shared borders with no faults. However, as soon as I add a navigation bar to the shared borders,
I'm
| > zapped with the same problem. If I then take out the navigation bar, I'm okay.
| > |
| > | Does this help?
| > |
| > | -sd
| > |
| > | "Stefan B Rusynko" wrote:
| > |
| > | > When you FTP'd it, did you include your old shared borders folder
| > | > - if so before you open it in FP rename the shared border files in the _borders folder
| > | > - then delete any and all _vt* files/folders and _derived folders (if you had or FTP'd them)
| > | >
| > | > Then do some system clean up
| > | >
| > | > 1) In Windows Explorer Find and delete all FP Temp Files
| > | > Usually in C:\WINDOWS\Temp and %USERPROFILE%\Local Settings\Temp
| > | > 2) In Windows Explorer Find and delete all hidden *.web files
| > | > Usually in %USERPROFILE%\Application Data\Microsoft\Web Server Extensions\Cache
| > | > 3) Run a Repair on IE
| > | > (see http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=318378 )
| > | > 4) Install all Service Packs for your OS, IE, MS Office and your Video card
| > | > (Windows Update and Office Update sites, plus your video card supplier site)
| > | > 5) Clear your IE cache (temp files),
| > | > 6) Open your folder as a FP Web/Site and run a Tools Recalculate Hyperlinks
| > | >
| > | >
| > | > --
| > | >
| > | > _____________________________________________
| > | > SBR @ ENJOY (-: [ Microsoft MVP - FrontPage ]
| > | > "Warning - Using the F1 Key will not break anything!" (-;
| > | > To find the best Newsgroup for FrontPage support see:
| > | > http://www.net-sites.com/sitebuilder/newsgroups.asp
| > | > _____________________________________________
| > | >
| > | >
| > | > | I put it into a plain non-web folder. Then in FP, did a 'convert to web' on the folder.
| > | > |
| > | > | In the last hour, I installed a temporary copy of FP on my WinXP laptop and copied the web into the My Webs folder (as a
| > subweb I
| > | > guess). The first page that I opened worked fine, then got the same error message when opening a second page. What I'm
hoping is
| > | > that I've eliminated any OS or machine-specific problem??? What the machines have in common is WinXPsp1, IE6sp1, OfficeXPsp3
and
| > all
| > | > of the lastest Windows OS and Office patches. I also tried opening another of my websites, however, and it too caused a
fault in
| > the
| > | > same way, so it doesn't 'appear' that it is simply a matter of a corrupted site.
| > | > |
| > | > | The event viewer shows the following: Faulting application frontpg.exe version 10.0.2623.0, faulting module unknown,
version
| > | > 0.0.0.0, fault address 0x00037e00.
| > | > |
| > | > | This has been pretty consistent, except that the fault address varies.
| > | > |
| > | > | Does any of this ring any bells for you?
| > | > |
| > | > | -sd
| > | > |
| > | > | "Thomas A. Rowe" wrote:
| > | > |
| > | > | > Are you saying the you download the content directly into a open FP web or that you put it in a
| > | > | > folder on your HD, then open that folder via FP?
| > | > | >
| > | > | > The second way above is the correct way.
| > | > | >
| > | > | > --
| > | > | > ==============================================
| > | > | > Thomas A. Rowe (Microsoft MVP - FrontPage)
| > | > | > WEBMASTER Resources(tm)
| > | > | >
| > | > | > FrontPage Resources, WebCircle, MS KB Quick Links, etc.
| > | > | > ==============================================
| > | > | > To assist you in getting the best answers for FrontPage support see:
| > | > | > http://www.net-sites.com/sitebuilder/newsgroups.asp
| > | > | >
| > | > | > | > | > | > > Nothing special...just a standard folder. I then did a 'convert to web' on the folder.
| > | > | > Unfortunately, when I then attempted to add a shared border, I got the same 'needs to close' error.
| > | > | > Thoughts?
| > | > | > >
| > | > | > > -sd
| > | > | > >
| > | > | > > PS Thanks for sticking with me on this!
| > | > | > >
| > | > | > > "Thomas A. Rowe" wrote:
| > | > | > >
| > | > | > > > When you download the site via FTP to your computer, what folder did you place it in?
| > | > | > > >
| > | > | > > > The problem with publishing to a server that doesn't have the FP extensions, is that if you ever
| > | > | > > > loose your local copy and have download a copy via FTP back to your machine, is that you will
| > | > | > have
| > | > | > > > reapply any themes, recreate your navigation structure/links and shared borders.
| > | > | > > >
| > | > | > > > --
| > | > | > > > ==============================================
| > | > | > > > Thomas A. Rowe (Microsoft MVP - FrontPage)
| > | > | > > > WEBMASTER Resources(tm)
| > | > | > > >
| > | > | > > > FrontPage Resources, WebCircle, MS KB Quick Links, etc.
| > | > | > > > ==============================================
| > | > | > > > To assist you in getting the best answers for FrontPage support see:
| > | > | > > > http://www.net-sites.com/sitebuilder/newsgroups.asp
| > | > | > > >
| > | > | > > > | > | > | > > > > I've been trying to follow his advice, but as I wrote, my hosting server is an ftp server and
| > | > | > does
| > | > | > > > not allow me to attach to it via http, so I can't publish from the live site. I DID, however,
| > | > | > use
| > | > | > > > WS-FTP to download the site to my computer...but lost the navigation & shared borders. As soon
| > | > | > as I
| > | > | > > > attempted to add a shared border back in to these pages, I got the same "Frontpage has
| > | > | > encountered a
| > | > | > > > problem and needs to close' message.
| > | > | > > > >
| > | > | > > > > I'm really stuck. I need to update our .org site and am off the air until I can find a fix to
| > | > | > > > this!
| > | > | > > > >
| > | > | > > > > -sd
| > | > | > > > >
| > | > | > > > > "Thomas A. Rowe" wrote:
| > | > | > > > >
| > | > | > > > > > See Jim Buyens reply to your prior post.
| > | > | > > > > >
| > | > | > > > > > --
| > | > | > > > > > ==============================================
| > | > | > > > > > Thomas A. Rowe (Microsoft MVP - FrontPage)
| > | > | > > > > > WEBMASTER Resources(tm)
| > | > | > > > > >
| > | > | > > > > > FrontPage Resources, WebCircle, MS KB Quick Links, etc.
| > | > | > > > > > ==============================================
| > | > | > > > > > To assist you in getting the best answers for FrontPage support see:
| > | > | > > > > > http://www.net-sites.com/sitebuilder/newsgroups.asp
| > | > | > > > > >
| > | > | > > > > > | > | > | > > > > > > Can you help me understand why I can't use the same data folders with the new copy of FP?
| > | > | > Is
| > | > | > > > there
| > | > | > > > > > something behind the scenes going on that isn't obvious?
| > | > | > > > > > >
| > | > | > > > > > > I can't pull down from the live site as it is an ftp site and FP doesn't seem to support
| > | > | > that.
| > | > | > > > I
| > | > | > > > > > did try publishing the site from the old directory, but trying to use the files in the new
| > | > | > > > folder
| > | > | > > > > > causes the same fault.
| > | > | > > > > > >
| > | > | > > > > > > "Thomas A. Rowe" wrote:
| > | > | > > > > > >
| > | > | > > > > > > > You need to publish them either from the old machine or from the live site the new
| > | > | > machine
| > | > | > > > in
| > | > | > > > > > order
| > | > | > > > > > > > to maintain the web structure.
| > | > | > > > > > > >
| > | > | > > > > > > > --
| > | > | > > > > > > > ==============================================
| > | > | > > > > > > > Thomas A. Rowe (Microsoft MVP - FrontPage)
| > | > | > > > > > > > WEBMASTER Resources(tm)
| > | > | > > > > > > >
| > | > | > > > > > > > FrontPage Resources, WebCircle, MS KB Quick Links, etc.
| > | > | > > > > > > > ==============================================
| > | > | > > > > > > > To assist you in getting the best answers for FrontPage support see:
| > | > | > > > > > > > http://www.net-sites.com/sitebuilder/newsgroups.asp
| > | > | > > > > > > >
| > | > | > > > > > > > | > | > | > > > > > > > > I installed Frontpage on the new computer, then moved all of my data files to the new
| > | > | > > > computer
| > | > | > > > > > as
| > | > | > > > > > > > well.
| > | > | > > > > > > > >
| > | > | > > > > > > > > One other problem found tonight. When opening web pages in IE6SP1, I seem to be
| > | > | > getting an
| > | > | > > > > > > > occasional 'debug' error that points to a java line. I don't have enough expertise to
| > | > | > know
| > | > | > > > if
| > | > | > > > > > there
| > | > | > > > > > > > is any relation to the Frontpage fault. <?>
| > | > | > > > > > > > >
| > | > | > > > > > > > > -Steve
| > | > | > > > > > > > >
| > | > | > > > > > > > > "Thomas A. Rowe" wrote:
| > | > | > > > > > > > >
| > | > | > > > > > > > > > How did you move the site from the old computer to the new computer?
| > | > | > > > > > > > > >
| > | > | > > > > > > > > > --
| > | > | > > > > > > > > > ==============================================
| > | > | > > > > > > > > > Thomas A. Rowe (Microsoft MVP - FrontPage)
| > | > | > > > > > > > > > WEBMASTER Resources(tm)
| > | > | > > > > > > > > >
| > | > | > > > > > > > > > FrontPage Resources, WebCircle, MS KB Quick Links, etc.
| > | > | > > > > > > > > > ==============================================
| > | > | > > > > > > > > > To assist you in getting the best answers for FrontPage support see:
| > | > | > > > > > > > > > http://www.net-sites.com/sitebuilder/newsgroups.asp
| > | > | > > > > > > > > >
| > | > | > > > > > > > > > | > | > | > > > > > > > > > > Yikes! All of a sudden, I can't open any second page in Frontpage 2002 or click on
| > | > | > a
| > | > | > > > link
| > | > | > > > > > > > without
| > | > | > > > > > > > > > getting a fault causing Frontpage to close. I did move my sites to a new computer a
| > | > | > > > couple
| > | > | > > > > > of
| > | > | > > > > > > > weeks
| > | > | > > > > > > > > > ago and reinstalled Frontpage 2002 with all of the current updates. Used it
| > | > | > succesfully
| > | > | > > > with
| > | > | > > > > > no
| > | > | > > > > > > > > > problem after that. Nothing new in Frontpage or my website pages since then. Not
| > | > | > other
| > | > | > > > > > problems
| > | > | > > > > > > > that
| > | > | > > > > > > > > > I've found in other MS programs or any other programs...only Frontpage. Using WinXP
| > | > | > > > SP1;
| > | > | > > > > > Office
| > | > | > > > > > > > XP
| > | > | > > > > > > > > > SP3.
| > | > | > > > > > > > > > >
| > | > | > > > > > > > > > > HELP!!!
| > | > | > > > > > > > > > >
| > | > | > > > > > > > > > > -sd
| > | > | > > > > > > > > > >
| > | > | > > > > > > > > > > PS A follow up to this. I've now totally uninstalled and reinstalled Frontpage.
| > | > | > I've
| > | > | > > > > > started
| > | > | > > > > > > > > > Windows in Safe Mode...nothing else running on the machine. And STILL get this
| > | > | > fault. I
| > | > | > > > can
| > | > | > > > > > open
| > | > | > > > > > > > one
| > | > | > > > > > > > > > page. Then, even if I close that page, as soon as I try to open a second or click on
| > | > | > a
| > | > | > > > link,
| > | > | > > > > > > > Fault!
| > | > | > > > > > > > > > <sigh>
| > | > | > > > > > > > > >
| > | > | > > > > > > > > >
| > | > | > > > > > > > > >
| > | > | > > > > > > >
| > | > | > > > > > > >
| > | > | > > > > > > >
| > | > | > > > > >
| > | > | > > > > >
| > | > | > > > > >
| > | > | > > >
| > | > | > > >
| > | > | > > >
| > | > | >
| > | > | >
| > | > | >
| > | >
| > | >
| > | >
| >
| >
| >

 

[Guest]

FP 2002

Which version of FP you working with?

--
==============================================
Thomas A. Rowe (Microsoft MVP - FrontPage)
WEBMASTER Resources(tm)

FrontPage Resources, WebCircle, MS KB Quick Links, etc.
==============================================

One more clue. I installed FP on yet another computer. This differs from the other two in that it

has Office 2000 on it instead of Office 2002. Otherwise it is also a WinXP machine with all of the
latest patches. The only other difference is that it did not have a copy of Mozilla Firefox
installed (the other two did, although I uninstalled it from one of those and uninstalled and
reinstalled FP just in case something there might have caused this...but no change).

Bottom line, I shared the web directory and connected to it from this third machine and it works

fine. No problems opening up the existing site. So it's apparently not a problem with the
pages/folders themselves, but something to do with FP and its interaction with the OS or other
programs (OfficeXPsp3? or Firefox...these are the only two new programs/patches that are on the two
machines that throw the fault, that are not on the machine that works or the old original
workstation.)

Are there any reported conflicts between FP and OfficeXpsp3 or Firefox?????

-sd

cleared the tab for all files, folders and subfolders, checked; then went back to the beginning &
cleared all *vt's, cache, temp, etc. No luck. As soon as I added the nav bar it crashed out again
same way.

-sd

:

Using Windows Explorer Make sure the folders / files you "moved" do not have any read only attributes still set (if moved from a CD)

--




| Yes. I first added all of my top level pages to the navigation view, then added the nav bar. Then after I'd had my next crash and
was trying to pin down where this was happening, went through these steps:
|
| 1. cleared everything as per your previous instructions (except for reinstalling IE again)
| 2. added top, left and bottom borders...and tested opening a few pages.
| 3. added a graphic banner into the top border and tested.
| 4. added a left side nav bar and tested...this is where the fault reappeared.
| 5. after reopening FP, I removed the nav bar and retested...and could open multiple pages again.
|
| Unless there's some other coincidental thing going on, somewhere/somehow this seems to be related to the navigation. (I did
recalculate hyperlinks several times during this process.) Is it possible that in moving all of the files/folders from the original
machine's HDD to this one, something is deep in the background related to where everything lives?
|
| (All of my program data (for all programs) live in one main directory off the root. When I copied the data over, the entire
directory was copied. No names were changed in the process...all are legal with respect to no-spaces and punctuation. )
|
| Thx,
|
| -sd
|
| "Stefan B Rusynko" wrote:
|
| > Are you adding a nav bar based on Navigation
| > - do you have any pages in Nav view and are the file names (not titles in nav view) legal (w/o any punctuation or spaces in file
| > names)
| >
| >
| > _____________________________________________
| > SBR @ ENJOY (-: [ Microsoft MVP - FrontPage ]
| > "Warning - Using the F1 Key will not break anything!" (-;
| > To find the best Newsgroup for FrontPage support see:
| > http://www.net-sites.com/sitebuilder/newsgroups.asp
| > _____________________________________________
| >
| >
| > | This was helpful... here's where I've ended up. I followed ALL of your instructions and ended up with a web folder with all of
my
| > files, graphics, etc. I can open multiple pages with no fault.
| > |
| > | I find I can add back in the shared borders with no faults. However, as soon as I add a navigation bar to the shared borders,
I'm
| > zapped with the same problem. If I then take out the navigation bar, I'm okay.
| > |
| > | Does this help?
| > |
| > | -sd
| > |
| > | "Stefan B Rusynko" wrote:
| > |
| > | > When you FTP'd it, did you include your old shared borders folder
| > | > - if so before you open it in FP rename the shared border files in the _borders folder
| > | > - then delete any and all _vt* files/folders and _derived folders (if you had or FTP'd them)
| > | >
| > | > Then do some system clean up
| > | >
| > | > 1) In Windows Explorer Find and delete all FP Temp Files
| > | > Usually in C:\WINDOWS\Temp and %USERPROFILE%\Local Settings\Temp
| > | > 2) In Windows Explorer Find and delete all hidden *.web files
| > | > Usually in %USERPROFILE%\Application Data\Microsoft\Web Server Extensions\Cache
| > | > 3) Run a Repair on IE
| > | > (see http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=318378 )
| > | > 4) Install all Service Packs for your OS, IE, MS Office and your Video card
| > | > (Windows Update and Office Update sites, plus your video card supplier site)
| > | > 5) Clear your IE cache (temp files),
| > | > 6) Open your folder as a FP Web/Site and run a Tools Recalculate Hyperlinks
| > | >
| > | >
| > | > --
| > | >
| > | > _____________________________________________
| > | > SBR @ ENJOY (-: [ Microsoft MVP - FrontPage ]
| > | > "Warning - Using the F1 Key will not break anything!" (-;
| > | > To find the best Newsgroup for FrontPage support see:
| > | > http://www.net-sites.com/sitebuilder/newsgroups.asp
| > | > _____________________________________________
| > | >
| > | >
| > | > | I put it into a plain non-web folder. Then in FP, did a 'convert to web' on the folder.
| > | > |
| > | > | In the last hour, I installed a temporary copy of FP on my WinXP laptop and copied the web into the My Webs folder (as a
| > subweb I
| > | > guess). The first page that I opened worked fine, then got the same error message when opening a second page. What I'm
hoping is
| > | > that I've eliminated any OS or machine-specific problem??? What the machines have in common is WinXPsp1, IE6sp1, OfficeXPsp3
and
| > all
| > | > of the lastest Windows OS and Office patches. I also tried opening another of my websites, however, and it too caused a
fault in
| > the
| > | > same way, so it doesn't 'appear' that it is simply a matter of a corrupted site.
| > | > |
| > | > | The event viewer shows the following: Faulting application frontpg.exe version 10.0.2623.0, faulting module unknown,
version
| > | > 0.0.0.0, fault address 0x00037e00.
| > | > |
| > | > | This has been pretty consistent, except that the fault address varies.
| > | > |
| > | > | Does any of this ring any bells for you?
| > | > |
| > | > | -sd
| > | > |
| > | > | "Thomas A. Rowe" wrote:
| > | > |
| > | > | > Are you saying the you download the content directly into a open FP web or that you put it in a
| > | > | > folder on your HD, then open that folder via FP?
| > | > | >
| > | > | > The second way above is the correct way.
| > | > | >
| > | > | > --
| > | > | > ==============================================
| > | > | > Thomas A. Rowe (Microsoft MVP - FrontPage)
| > | > | > WEBMASTER Resources(tm)
| > | > | >
| > | > | > FrontPage Resources, WebCircle, MS KB Quick Links, etc.
| > | > | > ==============================================
| > | > | > To assist you in getting the best answers for FrontPage support see:
| > | > | > http://www.net-sites.com/sitebuilder/newsgroups.asp
| > | > | >
| > | > | > | > | > | > > Nothing special...just a standard folder. I then did a 'convert to web' on the folder.
| > | > | > Unfortunately, when I then attempted to add a shared border, I got the same 'needs to close' error.
| > | > | > Thoughts?
| > | > | > >
| > | > | > > -sd
| > | > | > >
| > | > | > > PS Thanks for sticking with me on this!
| > | > | > >
| > | > | > > "Thomas A. Rowe" wrote:
| > | > | > >
| > | > | > > > When you download the site via FTP to your computer, what folder did you place it in?
| > | > | > > >
| > | > | > > > The problem with publishing to a server that doesn't have the FP extensions, is that if you ever
| > | > | > > > loose your local copy and have download a copy via FTP back to your machine, is that you will
| > | > | > have
| > | > | > > > reapply any themes, recreate your navigation structure/links and shared borders.
| > | > | > > >
| > | > | > > > --
| > | > | > > > ==============================================
| > | > | > > > Thomas A. Rowe (Microsoft MVP - FrontPage)
| > | > | > > > WEBMASTER Resources(tm)
| > | > | > > >
| > | > | > > > FrontPage Resources, WebCircle, MS KB Quick Links, etc.
| > | > | > > > ==============================================
| > | > | > > > To assist you in getting the best answers for FrontPage support see:
| > | > | > > > http://www.net-sites.com/sitebuilder/newsgroups.asp
| > | > | > > >
| > | > | > > > | > | > | > > > > I've been trying to follow his advice, but as I wrote, my hosting server is an ftp server and
| > | > | > does
| > | > | > > > not allow me to attach to it via http, so I can't publish from the live site. I DID, however,
| > | > | > use
| > | > | > > > WS-FTP to download the site to my computer...but lost the navigation & shared borders. As soon
| > | > | > as I
| > | > | > > > attempted to add a shared border back in to these pages, I got the same "Frontpage has
| > | > | > encountered a
| > | > | > > > problem and needs to close' message.
| > | > | > > > >
| > | > | > > > > I'm really stuck. I need to update our .org site and am off the air until I can find a fix to
| > | > | > > > this!
| > | > | > > > >
| > | > | > > > > -sd
| > | > | > > > >
| > | > | > > > > "Thomas A. Rowe" wrote:
| > | > | > > > >
| > | > | > > > > > See Jim Buyens reply to your prior post.
| > | > | > > > > >
| > | > | > > > > > --
| > | > | > > > > > ==============================================
| > | > | > > > > > Thomas A. Rowe (Microsoft MVP - FrontPage)
| > | > | > > > > > WEBMASTER Resources(tm)
| > | > | > > > > >
| > | > | > > > > > FrontPage Resources, WebCircle, MS KB Quick Links, etc.
| > | > | > > > > > ==============================================
| > | > | > > > > > To assist you in getting the best answers for FrontPage support see:
| > | > | > > > > > http://www.net-sites.com/sitebuilder/newsgroups.asp
| > | > | > > > > >
| > | > | > > > > > | > | > | > > > > > > Can you help me understand why I can't use the same data folders with the new copy of FP?
| > | > | > Is
| > | > | > > > there
| > | > | > > > > > something behind the scenes going on that isn't obvious?
| > | > | > > > > > >
| > | > | > > > > > > I can't pull down from the live site as it is an ftp site and FP doesn't seem to support
| > | > | > that.
| > | > | > > > I
| > | > | > > > > > did try publishing the site from the old directory, but trying to use the files in the new
| > | > | > > > folder
| > | > | > > > > > causes the same fault.
| > | > | > > > > > >
| > | > | > > > > > > "Thomas A. Rowe" wrote:
| > | > | > > > > > >
| > | > | > > > > > > > You need to publish them either from the old machine or from the live site the new
| > | > | > machine
| > | > | > > > in
| > | > | > > > > > order
| > | > | > > > > > > > to maintain the web structure.
| > | > | > > > > > > >
| > | > | > > > > > > > --
| > | > | > > > > > > > ==============================================
| > | > | > > > > > > > Thomas A. Rowe (Microsoft MVP - FrontPage)
| > | > | > > > > > > > WEBMASTER Resources(tm)
| > | > | > > > > > > >
| > | > | > > > > > > > FrontPage Resources, WebCircle, MS KB Quick Links, etc.
| > | > | > > > > > > > ==============================================
| > | > | > > > > > > > To assist you in getting the best answers for FrontPage support see:
| > | > | > > > > > > > http://www.net-sites.com/sitebuilder/newsgroups.asp
| > | > | > > > > > > >
| > | > | > > > > > > > | > | > | > > > > > > > > I installed Frontpage on the new computer, then moved all of my data files to the new
| > | > | > > > computer
| > | > | > > > > > as
| > | > | > > > > > > > well.
| > | > | > > > > > > > >
| > | > | > > > > > > > > One other problem found tonight. When opening web pages in IE6SP1, I seem to be
| > | > | > getting an
| > | > | > > > > > > > occasional 'debug' error that points to a java line. I don't have enough expertise to
| > | > | > know
| > | > | > > > if
| > | > | > > > > > there
| > | > | > > > > > > > is any relation to the Frontpage fault. <?>
| > | > | > > > > > > > >
| > | > | > > > > > > > > -Steve
| > | > | > > > > > > > >
| > | > | > > > > > > > > "Thomas A. Rowe" wrote:
| > | > | > > > > > > > >
| > | > | > > > > > > > > > How did you move the site from the old computer to the new computer?
| > | > | > > > > > > > > >
| > | > | > > > > > > > > > --
| > | > | > > > > > > > > > ==============================================
| > | > | > > > > > > > > > Thomas A. Rowe (Microsoft MVP - FrontPage)
| > | > | > > > > > > > > > WEBMASTER Resources(tm)
| > | > | > > > > > > > > >
| > | > | > > > > > > > > > FrontPage Resources, WebCircle, MS KB Quick Links, etc.
| > | > | > > > > > > > > > ==============================================
| > | > | > > > > > > > > > To assist you in getting the best answers for FrontPage support see:
| > | > | > > > > > > > > > http://www.net-sites.com/sitebuilder/newsgroups.asp
| > | > | > > > > > > > > >
| > | > | > > > > > > > > > | > | > | > > > > > > > > > > Yikes! All of a sudden, I can't open any second page in Frontpage 2002 or click on
| > | > | > a
| > | > | > > > link
| > | > | > > > > > > > without
| > | > | > > > > > > > > > getting a fault causing Frontpage to close. I did move my sites to a new computer a
| > | > | > > > couple
| > | > | > > > > > of
| > | > | > > > > > > > weeks
| > | > | > > > > > > > > > ago and reinstalled Frontpage 2002 with all of the current updates. Used it
| > | > | > succesfully
| > | > | > > > with
| > | > | > > > > > no
| > | > | > > > > > > > > > problem after that. Nothing new in Frontpage or my website pages since then. Not
| > | > | > other
| > | > | > > > > > problems
| > | > | > > > > > > > that
| > | > | > > > > > > > > > I've found in other MS programs or any other programs...only Frontpage. Using WinXP
| > | > | > > > SP1;
| > | > | > > > > > Office
| > | > | > > > > > > > XP
| > | > | > > > > > > > > > SP3.
| > | > | > > > > > > > > > >
| > | > | > > > > > > > > > > HELP!!!
| > | > | > > > > > > > > > >
| > | > | > > > > > > > > > > -sd
| > | > | > > > > > > > > > >
| > | > | > > > > > > > > > > PS A follow up to this. I've now totally uninstalled and reinstalled Frontpage.
| > | > | > I've
| > | > | > > > > > started
| > | > | > > > > > > > > > Windows in Safe Mode...nothing else running on the machine. And STILL get this
| > | > | > fault. I
| > | > | > > > can
| > | > | > > > > > open
| > | > | > > > > > > > one
| > | > | > > > > > > > > > page. Then, even if I close that page, as soon as I try to open a second or click on
| > | > | > a
| > | > | > > > link,
| > | > | > > > > > > > Fault!
| > | > | > > > > > > > > > <sigh>
| > | > | > > > > > > > > >
| > | > | > > > > > > > > >
| > | > | > > > > > > > > >
| > | > | > > > > > > >
| > | > | > > > > > > >
| > | > | > > > > > > >
| > | > | > > > > >
| > | > | > > > > >
| > | > | > > > > >
| > | > | > > >
| > | > | > > >
| > | > | > > >
| > | > | >
| > | > | >
| > | > | >
| > | >
| > | >
| > | >
| >
| >
| >

 

[Thomas A. Rowe]

Ok, did you install FP2002 after or before installing the Office XP Apps and if after install Office
XP, have you re-applied the Office XP Updates?

--
==============================================
Thomas A. Rowe (Microsoft MVP - FrontPage)
WEBMASTER Resources(tm)

FrontPage Resources, WebCircle, MS KB Quick Links, etc.
==============================================

FP 2002

Which version of FP you working with?

--
==============================================
Thomas A. Rowe (Microsoft MVP - FrontPage)
WEBMASTER Resources(tm)

FrontPage Resources, WebCircle, MS KB Quick Links, etc.
==============================================
To assist you in getting the best answers for FrontPage support see:
http://www.net-sites.com/sitebuilder/newsgroups.asp

One more clue. I installed FP on yet another computer. This differs from the other two in that

it
has Office 2000 on it instead of Office 2002. Otherwise it is also a WinXP machine with all of the
latest patches. The only other difference is that it did not have a copy of Mozilla Firefox
installed (the other two did, although I uninstalled it from one of those and uninstalled and
reinstalled FP just in case something there might have caused this...but no change).

Bottom line, I shared the web directory and connected to it from this third machine and it

works
fine. No problems opening up the existing site. So it's apparently not a problem with the
pages/folders themselves, but something to do with FP and its interaction with the OS or other
programs (OfficeXPsp3? or Firefox...these are the only two new programs/patches that are on the two
machines that throw the fault, that are not on the machine that works or the old original
workstation.)

Are there any reported conflicts between FP and OfficeXpsp3 or Firefox?????

-sd

:

<sigh> The directory was apparently a mixed bag of read only and not read only

files/folders. I
cleared the tab for all files, folders and subfolders, checked; then went back to the beginning &
cleared all *vt's, cache, temp, etc. No luck. As soon as I added the nav bar it crashed out again
same way.

-sd

:

Using Windows Explorer Make sure the folders / files you "moved" do not have any read only

attributes still set (if moved from a CD)

--




| Yes. I first added all of my top level pages to the navigation view, then added the nav

bar.
Then after I'd had my next crash and

was trying to pin down where this was happening, went through these steps:
|
| 1. cleared everything as per your previous instructions (except for reinstalling IE again)
| 2. added top, left and bottom borders...and tested opening a few pages.
| 3. added a graphic banner into the top border and tested.
| 4. added a left side nav bar and tested...this is where the fault reappeared.
| 5. after reopening FP, I removed the nav bar and retested...and could open multiple

pages
again.

|
| Unless there's some other coincidental thing going on, somewhere/somehow this seems to

be
related to the navigation. (I did

recalculate hyperlinks several times during this process.) Is it possible that in moving

all
of the files/folders from the original

machine's HDD to this one, something is deep in the background related to where everything lives?
|
| (All of my program data (for all programs) live in one main directory off the root. When

I
copied the data over, the entire

directory was copied. No names were changed in the process...all are legal with respect to no-spaces and punctuation. )
|
| Thx,
|
| -sd
|
| "Stefan B Rusynko" wrote:
|
| > Are you adding a nav bar based on Navigation
| > - do you have any pages in Nav view and are the file names (not titles in nav view)

legal
(w/o any punctuation or spaces in file

| > names)
| >
| >
| > _____________________________________________
| > SBR @ ENJOY (-: [ Microsoft MVP - FrontPage ]
| > "Warning - Using the F1 Key will not break anything!" (-;
| > To find the best Newsgroup for FrontPage support see:
| > http://www.net-sites.com/sitebuilder/newsgroups.asp
| > _____________________________________________
| >
| >
| > | This was helpful... here's where I've ended up. I followed ALL of your instructions

and
ended up with a web folder with all of

my
| > files, graphics, etc. I can open multiple pages with no fault.
| > |
| > | I find I can add back in the shared borders with no faults. However, as soon as I

add a
navigation bar to the shared borders,

I'm
| > zapped with the same problem. If I then take out the navigation bar, I'm okay.
| > |
| > | Does this help?
| > |
| > | -sd
| > |
| > | "Stefan B Rusynko" wrote:
| > |
| > | > When you FTP'd it, did you include your old shared borders folder
| > | > - if so before you open it in FP rename the shared border files in the _borders folder
| > | > - then delete any and all _vt* files/folders and _derived folders (if you had or

FTP'd
them)

| > | >
| > | > Then do some system clean up
| > | >
| > | > 1) In Windows Explorer Find and delete all FP Temp Files
| > | > Usually in C:\WINDOWS\Temp and %USERPROFILE%\Local Settings\Temp
| > | > 2) In Windows Explorer Find and delete all hidden *.web files
| > | > Usually in %USERPROFILE%\Application Data\Microsoft\Web Server Extensions\Cache
| > | > 3) Run a Repair on IE
| > | > (see http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=318378 )
| > | > 4) Install all Service Packs for your OS, IE, MS Office and your Video card
| > | > (Windows Update and Office Update sites, plus your video card supplier site)
| > | > 5) Clear your IE cache (temp files),
| > | > 6) Open your folder as a FP Web/Site and run a Tools Recalculate Hyperlinks
| > | >
| > | >
| > | > --
| > | >
| > | > _____________________________________________
| > | > SBR @ ENJOY (-: [ Microsoft MVP - FrontPage ]
| > | > "Warning - Using the F1 Key will not break anything!" (-;
| > | > To find the best Newsgroup for FrontPage support see:
| > | > http://www.net-sites.com/sitebuilder/newsgroups.asp
| > | > _____________________________________________
| > | >
| > | >
| > | > | I put it into a plain non-web folder. Then in FP, did a 'convert to web' on the folder.
| > | > |
| > | > | In the last hour, I installed a temporary copy of FP on my WinXP laptop and

copied
the web into the My Webs folder (as a

| > subweb I
| > | > guess). The first page that I opened worked fine, then got the same error message

when
opening a second page. What I'm

hoping is
| > | > that I've eliminated any OS or machine-specific problem??? What the machines have

in
common is WinXPsp1, IE6sp1, OfficeXPsp3

and
| > all
| > | > of the lastest Windows OS and Office patches. I also tried opening another of my

websites, however, and it too caused a

fault in
| > the
| > | > same way, so it doesn't 'appear' that it is simply a matter of a corrupted site.
| > | > |
| > | > | The event viewer shows the following: Faulting application frontpg.exe version

10.0.2623.0, faulting module unknown,

version
| > | > 0.0.0.0, fault address 0x00037e00.
| > | > |
| > | > | This has been pretty consistent, except that the fault address varies.
| > | > |
| > | > | Does any of this ring any bells for you?
| > | > |
| > | > | -sd
| > | > |
| > | > | "Thomas A. Rowe" wrote:
| > | > |
| > | > | > Are you saying the you download the content directly into a open FP web or

that
you put it in a

| > | > | > folder on your HD, then open that folder via FP?
| > | > | >
| > | > | > The second way above is the correct way.
| > | > | >
| > | > | > --
| > | > | > ==============================================
| > | > | > Thomas A. Rowe (Microsoft MVP - FrontPage)
| > | > | > WEBMASTER Resources(tm)
| > | > | >
| > | > | > FrontPage Resources, WebCircle, MS KB Quick Links, etc.
| > | > | > ==============================================
| > | > | > To assist you in getting the best answers for FrontPage support see:
| > | > | > http://www.net-sites.com/sitebuilder/newsgroups.asp
| > | > | >
| > | > | > | > | > | > > Nothing special...just a standard folder. I then did a 'convert to web' on

the
folder.

| > | > | > Unfortunately, when I then attempted to add a shared border, I got the same

'needs
to close' error.

| > | > | > Thoughts?
| > | > | > >
| > | > | > > -sd
| > | > | > >
| > | > | > > PS Thanks for sticking with me on this!
| > | > | > >
| > | > | > > "Thomas A. Rowe" wrote:
| > | > | > >
| > | > | > > > When you download the site via FTP to your computer, what folder did you

place
it in?

| > | > | > > >
| > | > | > > > The problem with publishing to a server that doesn't have the FP

extensions,
is that if you ever

| > | > | > > > loose your local copy and have download a copy via FTP back to your

machine,
is that you will

| > | > | > have
| > | > | > > > reapply any themes, recreate your navigation structure/links and shared borders.
| > | > | > > >
| > | > | > > > --
| > | > | > > > ==============================================
| > | > | > > > Thomas A. Rowe (Microsoft MVP - FrontPage)
| > | > | > > > WEBMASTER Resources(tm)
| > | > | > > >
| > | > | > > > FrontPage Resources, WebCircle, MS KB Quick Links, etc.
| > | > | > > > ==============================================
| > | > | > > > To assist you in getting the best answers for FrontPage support see:
| > | > | > > > http://www.net-sites.com/sitebuilder/newsgroups.asp
| > | > | > > >
| > | > | > > > | > | > | > > > > I've been trying to follow his advice, but as I wrote, my hosting server

is
an ftp server and

| > | > | > does
| > | > | > > > not allow me to attach to it via http, so I can't publish from the live

site.
I DID, however,

| > | > | > use
| > | > | > > > WS-FTP to download the site to my computer...but lost the navigation &

shared
borders. As soon

| > | > | > as I
| > | > | > > > attempted to add a shared border back in to these pages, I got the same "Frontpage has
| > | > | > encountered a
| > | > | > > > problem and needs to close' message.
| > | > | > > > >
| > | > | > > > > I'm really stuck. I need to update our .org site and am off the air

until I
can find a fix to

| > | > | > > > this!
| > | > | > > > >
| > | > | > > > > -sd
| > | > | > > > >
| > | > | > > > > "Thomas A. Rowe" wrote:
| > | > | > > > >
| > | > | > > > > > See Jim Buyens reply to your prior post.
| > | > | > > > > >
| > | > | > > > > > --
| > | > | > > > > > ==============================================
| > | > | > > > > > Thomas A. Rowe (Microsoft MVP - FrontPage)
| > | > | > > > > > WEBMASTER Resources(tm)
| > | > | > > > > >
| > | > | > > > > > FrontPage Resources, WebCircle, MS KB Quick Links, etc.
| > | > | > > > > > ==============================================
| > | > | > > > > > To assist you in getting the best answers for FrontPage support see:
| > | > | > > > > > http://www.net-sites.com/sitebuilder/newsgroups.asp
| > | > | > > > > >
| > | > | > > > > > | > | > | > > > > > > Can you help me understand why I can't use the same data folders

with
the new copy of FP?

| > | > | > Is
| > | > | > > > there
| > | > | > > > > > something behind the scenes going on that isn't obvious?
| > | > | > > > > > >
| > | > | > > > > > > I can't pull down from the live site as it is an ftp site and FP

doesn't
seem to support

| > | > | > that.
| > | > | > > > I
| > | > | > > > > > did try publishing the site from the old directory, but trying to use

the
files in the new

| > | > | > > > folder
| > | > | > > > > > causes the same fault.
| > | > | > > > > > >
| > | > | > > > > > > "Thomas A. Rowe" wrote:
| > | > | > > > > > >
| > | > | > > > > > > > You need to publish them either from the old machine or from the

live
site the new

| > | > | > machine
| > | > | > > > in
| > | > | > > > > > order
| > | > | > > > > > > > to maintain the web structure.
| > | > | > > > > > > >
| > | > | > > > > > > > --
| > | > | > > > > > > > ==============================================
| > | > | > > > > > > > Thomas A. Rowe (Microsoft MVP - FrontPage)
| > | > | > > > > > > > WEBMASTER Resources(tm)
| > | > | > > > > > > >
| > | > | > > > > > > > FrontPage Resources, WebCircle, MS KB Quick Links, etc.
| > | > | > > > > > > > ==============================================
| > | > | > > > > > > > To assist you in getting the best answers for FrontPage support see:
| > | > | > > > > > > > http://www.net-sites.com/sitebuilder/newsgroups.asp
| > | > | > > > > > > >
| > | > | > > > > > > > | > | > | > > > > > > > > I installed Frontpage on the new computer, then moved all of my

data
files to the new

| > | > | > > > computer
| > | > | > > > > > as
| > | > | > > > > > > > well.
| > | > | > > > > > > > >
| > | > | > > > > > > > > One other problem found tonight. When opening web pages in

IE6SP1, I
seem to be

| > | > | > getting an
| > | > | > > > > > > > occasional 'debug' error that points to a java line. I don't have enough expertise to
| > | > | > know
| > | > | > > > if
| > | > | > > > > > there
| > | > | > > > > > > > is any relation to the Frontpage fault. <?>
| > | > | > > > > > > > >
| > | > | > > > > > > > > -Steve
| > | > | > > > > > > > >
| > | > | > > > > > > > > "Thomas A. Rowe" wrote:
| > | > | > > > > > > > >
| > | > | > > > > > > > > > How did you move the site from the old computer to the new computer?
| > | > | > > > > > > > > >
| > | > | > > > > > > > > > --
| > | > | > > > > > > > > > ==============================================
| > | > | > > > > > > > > > Thomas A. Rowe (Microsoft MVP - FrontPage)
| > | > | > > > > > > > > > WEBMASTER Resources(tm)
| > | > | > > > > > > > > >
| > | > | > > > > > > > > > FrontPage Resources, WebCircle, MS KB Quick Links, etc.
| > | > | > > > > > > > > > ==============================================
| > | > | > > > > > > > > > To assist you in getting the best answers for FrontPage

support
see:

| > | > | > > > > > > > > > http://www.net-sites.com/sitebuilder/newsgroups.asp
| > | > | > > > > > > > > >
| > | > | > > > > > > > > > | > | > | > > > > > > > > > > Yikes! All of a sudden, I can't open any second page in Frontpage 2002 or click on
| > | > | > a
| > | > | > > > link
| > | > | > > > > > > > without
| > | > | > > > > > > > > > getting a fault causing Frontpage to close. I did move my

sites to
a new computer a

| > | > | > > > couple
| > | > | > > > > > of
| > | > | > > > > > > > weeks
| > | > | > > > > > > > > > ago and reinstalled Frontpage 2002 with all of the current updates. Used it
| > | > | > succesfully
| > | > | > > > with
| > | > | > > > > > no
| > | > | > > > > > > > > > problem after that. Nothing new in Frontpage or my website

pages
since then. Not

| > | > | > other
| > | > | > > > > > problems
| > | > | > > > > > > > that
| > | > | > > > > > > > > > I've found in other MS programs or any other programs...only Frontpage. Using WinXP
| > | > | > > > SP1;
| > | > | > > > > > Office
| > | > | > > > > > > > XP
| > | > | > > > > > > > > > SP3.
| > | > | > > > > > > > > > >
| > | > | > > > > > > > > > > HELP!!!
| > | > | > > > > > > > > > >
| > | > | > > > > > > > > > > -sd
| > | > | > > > > > > > > > >
| > | > | > > > > > > > > > > PS A follow up to this. I've now totally uninstalled and reinstalled Frontpage.
| > | > | > I've
| > | > | > > > > > started
| > | > | > > > > > > > > > Windows in Safe Mode...nothing else running on the machine.

And
STILL get this

| > | > | > fault. I
| > | > | > > > can
| > | > | > > > > > open
| > | > | > > > > > > > one
| > | > | > > > > > > > > > page. Then, even if I close that page, as soon as I try to

open a
second or click on

| > | > | > a
| > | > | > > > link,
| > | > | > > > > > > > Fault!
| > | > | > > > > > > > > > <sigh>
| > | > | > > > > > > > > >
| > | > | > > > > > > > > >
| > | > | > > > > > > > > >
| > | > | > > > > > > >
| > | > | > > > > > > >
| > | > | > > > > > > >
| > | > | > > > > >
| > | > | > > > > >
| > | > | > > > > >
| > | > | > > >
| > | > | > > >
| > | > | > > >
| > | > | >
| > | > | >
| > | > | >
| > | >
| > | >
| > | >
| >
| >
| >

 

[Guest]

At this point, the current installed version of FP is definitely after the XP updates. Is it possible to reapply XP updates that have already been installed? -sd

Ok, did you install FP2002 after or before installing the Office XP Apps and if after install Office
XP, have you re-applied the Office XP Updates?

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FP 2002

Which version of FP you working with?

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One more clue. I installed FP on yet another computer. This differs from the other two in that it
has Office 2000 on it instead of Office 2002. Otherwise it is also a WinXP machine with all of the
latest patches. The only other difference is that it did not have a copy of Mozilla Firefox
installed (the other two did, although I uninstalled it from one of those and uninstalled and
reinstalled FP just in case something there might have caused this...but no change).

Bottom line, I shared the web directory and connected to it from this third machine and it works
fine. No problems opening up the existing site. So it's apparently not a problem with the
pages/folders themselves, but something to do with FP and its interaction with the OS or other
programs (OfficeXPsp3? or Firefox...these are the only two new programs/patches that are on the two
machines that throw the fault, that are not on the machine that works or the old original
workstation.)

Are there any reported conflicts between FP and OfficeXpsp3 or Firefox?????

-sd

:

<sigh> The directory was apparently a mixed bag of read only and not read only files/folders. I
cleared the tab for all files, folders and subfolders, checked; then went back to the beginning &
cleared all *vt's, cache, temp, etc. No luck. As soon as I added the nav bar it crashed out again
same way.

-sd

:

Using Windows Explorer Make sure the folders / files you "moved" do not have any read only
attributes still set (if moved from a CD)

--




| Yes. I first added all of my top level pages to the navigation view, then added the nav bar.
Then after I'd had my next crash and
was trying to pin down where this was happening, went through these steps:
|
| 1. cleared everything as per your previous instructions (except for reinstalling IE again)
| 2. added top, left and bottom borders...and tested opening a few pages.
| 3. added a graphic banner into the top border and tested.
| 4. added a left side nav bar and tested...this is where the fault reappeared.
| 5. after reopening FP, I removed the nav bar and retested...and could open multiple pages
again.
|
| Unless there's some other coincidental thing going on, somewhere/somehow this seems to be
related to the navigation. (I did
recalculate hyperlinks several times during this process.) Is it possible that in moving all
of the files/folders from the original
machine's HDD to this one, something is deep in the background related to where everything
lives?
|
| (All of my program data (for all programs) live in one main directory off the root. When I
copied the data over, the entire
directory was copied. No names were changed in the process...all are legal with respect to
no-spaces and punctuation. )
|
| Thx,
|
| -sd
|
| "Stefan B Rusynko" wrote:
|
| > Are you adding a nav bar based on Navigation
| > - do you have any pages in Nav view and are the file names (not titles in nav view) legal
(w/o any punctuation or spaces in file
| > names)
| >
| >
| > _____________________________________________
| > SBR @ ENJOY (-: [ Microsoft MVP - FrontPage ]
| > "Warning - Using the F1 Key will not break anything!" (-;
| > To find the best Newsgroup for FrontPage support see:
| > http://www.net-sites.com/sitebuilder/newsgroups.asp
| > _____________________________________________
| >
| >
| > | This was helpful... here's where I've ended up. I followed ALL of your instructions and
ended up with a web folder with all of
my
| > files, graphics, etc. I can open multiple pages with no fault.
| > |
| > | I find I can add back in the shared borders with no faults. However, as soon as I add a
navigation bar to the shared borders,
I'm
| > zapped with the same problem. If I then take out the navigation bar, I'm okay.
| > |
| > | Does this help?
| > |
| > | -sd
| > |
| > | "Stefan B Rusynko" wrote:
| > |
| > | > When you FTP'd it, did you include your old shared borders folder
| > | > - if so before you open it in FP rename the shared border files in the _borders folder
| > | > - then delete any and all _vt* files/folders and _derived folders (if you had or FTP'd
them)
| > | >
| > | > Then do some system clean up
| > | >
| > | > 1) In Windows Explorer Find and delete all FP Temp Files
| > | > Usually in C:\WINDOWS\Temp and %USERPROFILE%\Local Settings\Temp
| > | > 2) In Windows Explorer Find and delete all hidden *.web files
| > | > Usually in %USERPROFILE%\Application Data\Microsoft\Web Server Extensions\Cache
| > | > 3) Run a Repair on IE
| > | > (see http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=318378 )
| > | > 4) Install all Service Packs for your OS, IE, MS Office and your Video card
| > | > (Windows Update and Office Update sites, plus your video card supplier site)
| > | > 5) Clear your IE cache (temp files),
| > | > 6) Open your folder as a FP Web/Site and run a Tools Recalculate Hyperlinks
| > | >
| > | >
| > | > --
| > | >
| > | > _____________________________________________
| > | > SBR @ ENJOY (-: [ Microsoft MVP - FrontPage ]
| > | > "Warning - Using the F1 Key will not break anything!" (-;
| > | > To find the best Newsgroup for FrontPage support see:
| > | > http://www.net-sites.com/sitebuilder/newsgroups.asp
| > | > _____________________________________________
| > | >
| > | >
| > | > | I put it into a plain non-web folder. Then in FP, did a 'convert to web' on the
folder.
| > | > |
| > | > | In the last hour, I installed a temporary copy of FP on my WinXP laptop and copied
the web into the My Webs folder (as a
| > subweb I
| > | > guess). The first page that I opened worked fine, then got the same error message when
opening a second page. What I'm
hoping is
| > | > that I've eliminated any OS or machine-specific problem??? What the machines have in
common is WinXPsp1, IE6sp1, OfficeXPsp3
and
| > all
| > | > of the lastest Windows OS and Office patches. I also tried opening another of my
websites, however, and it too caused a
fault in
| > the
| > | > same way, so it doesn't 'appear' that it is simply a matter of a corrupted site.
| > | > |
| > | > | The event viewer shows the following: Faulting application frontpg.exe version
10.0.2623.0, faulting module unknown,
version
| > | > 0.0.0.0, fault address 0x00037e00.
| > | > |
| > | > | This has been pretty consistent, except that the fault address varies.
| > | > |
| > | > | Does any of this ring any bells for you?
| > | > |
| > | > | -sd
| > | > |
| > | > | "Thomas A. Rowe" wrote:
| > | > |
| > | > | > Are you saying the you download the content directly into a open FP web or that
you put it in a
| > | > | > folder on your HD, then open that folder via FP?
| > | > | >
| > | > | > The second way above is the correct way.
| > | > | >
| > | > | > --
| > | > | > ==============================================
| > | > | > Thomas A. Rowe (Microsoft MVP - FrontPage)
| > | > | > WEBMASTER Resources(tm)
| > | > | >
| > | > | > FrontPage Resources, WebCircle, MS KB Quick Links, etc.
| > | > | > ==============================================
| > | > | > To assist you in getting the best answers for FrontPage support see:
| > | > | > http://www.net-sites.com/sitebuilder/newsgroups.asp
| > | > | >
| > | > | > | > | > | > > Nothing special...just a standard folder. I then did a 'convert to web' on the
folder.
| > | > | > Unfortunately, when I then attempted to add a shared border, I got the same 'needs
to close' error.
| > | > | > Thoughts?
| > | > | > >
| > | > | > > -sd
| > | > | > >
| > | > | > > PS Thanks for sticking with me on this!
| > | > | > >
| > | > | > > "Thomas A. Rowe" wrote:
| > | > | > >
| > | > | > > > When you download the site via FTP to your computer, what folder did you place
it in?
| > | > | > > >
| > | > | > > > The problem with publishing to a server that doesn't have the FP extensions,
is that if you ever
| > | > | > > > loose your local copy and have download a copy via FTP back to your machine,
is that you will
| > | > | > have
| > | > | > > > reapply any themes, recreate your navigation structure/links and shared
borders.
| > | > | > > >
| > | > | > > > --
| > | > | > > > ==============================================
| > | > | > > > Thomas A. Rowe (Microsoft MVP - FrontPage)
| > | > | > > > WEBMASTER Resources(tm)
| > | > | > > >
| > | > | > > > FrontPage Resources, WebCircle, MS KB Quick Links, etc.
| > | > | > > > ==============================================
| > | > | > > > To assist you in getting the best answers for FrontPage support see:
| > | > | > > > http://www.net-sites.com/sitebuilder/newsgroups.asp
| > | > | > > >
| > | > | > > > | > | > | > > > > I've been trying to follow his advice, but as I wrote, my hosting server is
an ftp server and
| > | > | > does
| > | > | > > > not allow me to attach to it via http, so I can't publish from the live site.
I DID, however,
| > | > | > use
| > | > | > > > WS-FTP to download the site to my computer...but lost the navigation & shared
borders. As soon
| > | > | > as I
| > | > | > > > attempted to add a shared border back in to these pages, I got the same
"Frontpage has
| > | > | > encountered a
| > | > | > > > problem and needs to close' message.
| > | > | > > > >
| > | > | > > > > I'm really stuck. I need to update our .org site and am off the air until I
can find a fix to
| > | > | > > > this!
| > | > | > > > >
| > | > | > > > > -sd
| > | > | > > > >
| > | > | > > > > "Thomas A. Rowe" wrote:
| > | > | > > > >
| > | > | > > > > > See Jim Buyens reply to your prior post.
| > | > | > > > > >
| > | > | > > > > > --
| > | > | > > > > > ==============================================
| > | > | > > > > > Thomas A. Rowe (Microsoft MVP - FrontPage)
| > | > | > > > > > WEBMASTER Resources(tm)
| > | > | > > > > >
| > | > | > > > > > FrontPage Resources, WebCircle, MS KB Quick Links, etc.
| > | > | > > > > > ==============================================
| > | > | > > > > > To assist you in getting the best answers for FrontPage support see:
| > | > | > > > > > http://www.net-sites.com/sitebuilder/newsgroups.asp
| > | > | > > > > >
| > | > | > > > > > | > | > | > > > > > > Can you help me understand why I can't use the same data folders with
the new copy of FP?
| > | > | > Is
| > | > | > > > there
| > | > | > > > > > something behind the scenes going on that isn't obvious?
| > | > | > > > > > >
| > | > | > > > > > > I can't pull down from the live site as it is an ftp site and FP doesn't
seem to support
| > | > | > that.
| > | > | > > > I
| > | > | > > > > > did try publishing the site from the old directory, but trying to use the
files in the new
| > | > | > > > folder
| > | > | > > > > > causes the same fault.
| > | > | > > > > > >
| > | > | > > > > > > "Thomas A. Rowe" wrote:
| > | > | > > > > > >
| > | > | > > > > > > > You need to publish them either from the old machine or from the live
site the new
| > | > | > machine
| > | > | > > > in
| > | > | > > > > > order
| > | > | > > > > > > > to maintain the web structure.
| > | > | > > > > > > >
| > | > | > > > > > > > --
| > | > | > > > > > > > ==============================================
| > | > | > > > > > > > Thomas A. Rowe (Microsoft MVP - FrontPage)
| > | > | > > > > > > > WEBMASTER Resources(tm)
| > | > | > > > > > > >
| > | > | > > > > > > > FrontPage Resources, WebCircle, MS KB Quick Links, etc.
| > | > | > > > > > > > ==============================================
| > | > | > > > > > > > To assist you in getting the best answers for FrontPage support see:
| > | > | > > > > > > > http://www.net-sites.com/sitebuilder/newsgroups.asp
| > | > | > > > > > > >
| > | > | > > > > > > > | > | > | > > > > > > > > I installed Frontpage on the new computer, then moved all of my data
files to the new
| > | > | > > > computer
| > | > | > > > > > as
| > | > | > > > > > > > well.
| > | > | > > > > > > > >
| > | > | > > > > > > > > One other problem found tonight. When opening web pages in IE6SP1, I
seem to be
| > | > | > getting an
| > | > | > > > > > > > occasional 'debug' error that points to a java line. I don't have
enough expertise to
| > | > | > know
| > | > | > > > if
| > | > | > > > > > there
| > | > | > > > > > > > is any relation to the Frontpage fault. <?>
| > | > | > > > > > > > >
| > | > | > > > > > > > > -Steve
| > | > | > > > > > > > >
| > | > | > > > > > > > > "Thomas A. Rowe" wrote:
| > | > | > > > > > > > >
| > | > | > > > > > > > > > How did you move the site from the old computer to the new
computer?
| > | > | > > > > > > > > >
| > | > | > > > > > > > > > --
| > | > | > > > > > > > > > ==============================================
| > | > | > > > > > > > > > Thomas A. Rowe (Microsoft MVP - FrontPage)
| > | > | > > > > > > > > > WEBMASTER Resources(tm)
| > | > | > > > > > > > > >
| > | > | > > > > > > > > > FrontPage Resources, WebCircle, MS KB Quick Links, etc.
| > | > | > > > > > > > > > ==============================================
| > | > | > > > > > > > > > To assist you in getting the best answers for FrontPage support
see:
| > | > | > > > > > > > > > http://www.net-sites.com/sitebuilder/newsgroups.asp
| > | > | > > > > > > > > >
| > | > | > > > > > > > > > | > | > | > > > > > > > > > > Yikes! All of a sudden, I can't open any second page in
Frontpage 2002 or click on
| > | > | > a
| > | > | > > > link
| > | > | > > > > > > > without
| > | > | > > > > > > > > > getting a fault causing Frontpage to close. I did move my sites to
a new computer a
| > | > | > > > couple
| > | > | > > > > > of
| > | > | > > > > > > > weeks
| > | > | > > > > > > > > > ago and reinstalled Frontpage 2002 with all of the current
updates. Used it
| > | > | > succesfully
| > | > | > > > with
| > | > | > > > > > no
| > | > | > > > > > > > > > problem after that. Nothing new in Frontpage or my website pages
since then. Not
| > | > | > other
| > | > | > > > > > problems
| > | > | > > > > > > > that
| > | > | > > > > > > > > > I've found in other MS programs or any other programs...only
Frontpage. Using WinXP
| > | > | > > > SP1;
| > | > | > > > > > Office
| > | > | > > > > > > > XP
| > | > | > > > > > > > > > SP3.
| > | > | > > > > > > > > > >
| > | > | > > > > > > > > > > HELP!!!
| > | > | > > > > > > > > > >
| > | > | > > > > > > > > > > -sd
| > | > | > > > > > > > > > >
| > | > | > > > > > > > > > > PS A follow up to this. I've now totally uninstalled and
reinstalled Frontpage.
| > | > | > I've
| > | > | > > > > > started
| > | > | > > > > > > > > > Windows in Safe Mode...nothing else running on the machine. And
STILL get this
| > | > | > fault. I
| > | > | > > > can
| > | > | > > > > > open
| > | > | > > > > > > > one
| > | > | > > > > > > > > > page. Then, even if I close that page, as soon as I try to open a
second or click on
| > | > | > a
| > | > | > > > link,
| > | > | > > > > > > > Fault!
| > | > | > > > > > > > > > <sigh>
| > | > | > > > > > > > > >
| > | > | > > > > > > > > >
| > | > | > > > > > > > > >
| > | > | > > > > > > >
| > | > | > > > > > > >
| > | > | > > > > > > >
| > | > | > > > > >
| > | > | > > > > >
| > | > | > > > > >
| > | > | > > >
| > | > | > > >
| > | > | > > >
| > | > | >
| > | > | >
| > | > | >
| > | >
| > | >
| > | >
| >
| >
| >

 

[Thomas A. Rowe]

Anytime you install a Office update and then add another Office app for the same version, you have
to re-apply all updates.

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FrontPage Resources, WebCircle, MS KB Quick Links, etc.
==============================================

At this point, the current installed version of FP is definitely after the XP updates. Is it

possible to reapply XP updates that have already been installed? -sd

Ok, did you install FP2002 after or before installing the Office XP Apps and if after install Office
XP, have you re-applied the Office XP Updates?

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FrontPage Resources, WebCircle, MS KB Quick Links, etc.
==============================================
To assist you in getting the best answers for FrontPage support see:
http://www.net-sites.com/sitebuilder/newsgroups.asp

FP 2002

:

Which version of FP you working with?

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FrontPage Resources, WebCircle, MS KB Quick Links, etc.
==============================================
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One more clue. I installed FP on yet another computer. This differs from the other two in

that
it

has Office 2000 on it instead of Office 2002. Otherwise it is also a WinXP machine with all

of
the

latest patches. The only other difference is that it did not have a copy of Mozilla Firefox
installed (the other two did, although I uninstalled it from one of those and uninstalled and
reinstalled FP just in case something there might have caused this...but no change).

Bottom line, I shared the web directory and connected to it from this third machine and it works
fine. No problems opening up the existing site. So it's apparently not a problem with the
pages/folders themselves, but something to do with FP and its interaction with the OS or other
programs (OfficeXPsp3? or Firefox...these are the only two new programs/patches that are on

the
two

machines that throw the fault, that are not on the machine that works or the old original
workstation.)

Are there any reported conflicts between FP and OfficeXpsp3 or Firefox?????

-sd

:

<sigh> The directory was apparently a mixed bag of read only and not read only files/folders. I
cleared the tab for all files, folders and subfolders, checked; then went back to the

beginning
&

cleared all *vt's, cache, temp, etc. No luck. As soon as I added the nav bar it crashed out again
same way.

-sd

:

Using Windows Explorer Make sure the folders / files you "moved" do not have any read only
attributes still set (if moved from a CD)

--




| Yes. I first added all of my top level pages to the navigation view, then added the

nav
bar.

Then after I'd had my next crash and
was trying to pin down where this was happening, went through these steps:
|
| 1. cleared everything as per your previous instructions (except for reinstalling IE again)
| 2. added top, left and bottom borders...and tested opening a few pages.
| 3. added a graphic banner into the top border and tested.
| 4. added a left side nav bar and tested...this is where the fault reappeared.
| 5. after reopening FP, I removed the nav bar and retested...and could open multiple pages
again.
|
| Unless there's some other coincidental thing going on, somewhere/somehow this seems

to
be

related to the navigation. (I did
recalculate hyperlinks several times during this process.) Is it possible that in

moving
all

of the files/folders from the original
machine's HDD to this one, something is deep in the background related to where everything
lives?
|
| (All of my program data (for all programs) live in one main directory off the root.

When
I

copied the data over, the entire
directory was copied. No names were changed in the process...all are legal with respect to
no-spaces and punctuation. )
|
| Thx,
|
| -sd
|
| "Stefan B Rusynko" wrote:
|
| > Are you adding a nav bar based on Navigation
| > - do you have any pages in Nav view and are the file names (not titles in nav

view)
legal

(w/o any punctuation or spaces in file
| > names)
| >
| >
| > _____________________________________________
| > SBR @ ENJOY (-: [ Microsoft MVP - FrontPage ]
| > "Warning - Using the F1 Key will not break anything!" (-;
| > To find the best Newsgroup for FrontPage support see:
| > http://www.net-sites.com/sitebuilder/newsgroups.asp
| > _____________________________________________
| >
| >
| > | This was helpful... here's where I've ended up. I followed ALL of your

instructions
and

ended up with a web folder with all of
my
| > files, graphics, etc. I can open multiple pages with no fault.
| > |
| > | I find I can add back in the shared borders with no faults. However, as soon as

I
add a

navigation bar to the shared borders,
I'm
| > zapped with the same problem. If I then take out the navigation bar, I'm okay.
| > |
| > | Does this help?
| > |
| > | -sd
| > |
| > | "Stefan B Rusynko" wrote:
| > |
| > | > When you FTP'd it, did you include your old shared borders folder
| > | > - if so before you open it in FP rename the shared border files in the

_borders
folder

| > | > - then delete any and all _vt* files/folders and _derived folders (if you had

or
FTP'd

them)
| > | >
| > | > Then do some system clean up
| > | >
| > | > 1) In Windows Explorer Find and delete all FP Temp Files
| > | > Usually in C:\WINDOWS\Temp and %USERPROFILE%\Local Settings\Temp
| > | > 2) In Windows Explorer Find and delete all hidden *.web files
| > | > Usually in %USERPROFILE%\Application Data\Microsoft\Web Server Extensions\Cache
| > | > 3) Run a Repair on IE
| > | > (see http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=318378 )
| > | > 4) Install all Service Packs for your OS, IE, MS Office and your Video card
| > | > (Windows Update and Office Update sites, plus your video card supplier site)
| > | > 5) Clear your IE cache (temp files),
| > | > 6) Open your folder as a FP Web/Site and run a Tools Recalculate Hyperlinks
| > | >
| > | >
| > | > --
| > | >
| > | > _____________________________________________
| > | > SBR @ ENJOY (-: [ Microsoft MVP - FrontPage ]
| > | > "Warning - Using the F1 Key will not break anything!" (-;
| > | > To find the best Newsgroup for FrontPage support see:
| > | > http://www.net-sites.com/sitebuilder/newsgroups.asp
| > | > _____________________________________________
| > | >
| > | >
| > | > | I put it into a plain non-web folder. Then in FP, did a 'convert to web' on the
folder.
| > | > |
| > | > | In the last hour, I installed a temporary copy of FP on my WinXP laptop and copied
the web into the My Webs folder (as a
| > subweb I
| > | > guess). The first page that I opened worked fine, then got the same error

message
when

opening a second page. What I'm
hoping is
| > | > that I've eliminated any OS or machine-specific problem??? What the machines

have
in

common is WinXPsp1, IE6sp1, OfficeXPsp3
and
| > all
| > | > of the lastest Windows OS and Office patches. I also tried opening another of my
websites, however, and it too caused a
fault in
| > the
| > | > same way, so it doesn't 'appear' that it is simply a matter of a corrupted site.
| > | > |
| > | > | The event viewer shows the following: Faulting application frontpg.exe version
10.0.2623.0, faulting module unknown,
version
| > | > 0.0.0.0, fault address 0x00037e00.
| > | > |
| > | > | This has been pretty consistent, except that the fault address varies.
| > | > |
| > | > | Does any of this ring any bells for you?
| > | > |
| > | > | -sd
| > | > |
| > | > | "Thomas A. Rowe" wrote:
| > | > |
| > | > | > Are you saying the you download the content directly into a open FP web or that
you put it in a
| > | > | > folder on your HD, then open that folder via FP?
| > | > | >
| > | > | > The second way above is the correct way.
| > | > | >
| > | > | > --
| > | > | > ==============================================
| > | > | > Thomas A. Rowe (Microsoft MVP - FrontPage)
| > | > | > WEBMASTER Resources(tm)
| > | > | >
| > | > | > FrontPage Resources, WebCircle, MS KB Quick Links, etc.
| > | > | > ==============================================
| > | > | > To assist you in getting the best answers for FrontPage support see:
| > | > | > http://www.net-sites.com/sitebuilder/newsgroups.asp
| > | > | >
| > | > | > | > | > | > > Nothing special...just a standard folder. I then did a 'convert to web'

on
the

folder.
| > | > | > Unfortunately, when I then attempted to add a shared border, I got the

same
'needs

to close' error.
| > | > | > Thoughts?
| > | > | > >
| > | > | > > -sd
| > | > | > >
| > | > | > > PS Thanks for sticking with me on this!
| > | > | > >
| > | > | > > "Thomas A. Rowe" wrote:
| > | > | > >
| > | > | > > > When you download the site via FTP to your computer, what folder did

you
place

it in?
| > | > | > > >
| > | > | > > > The problem with publishing to a server that doesn't have the FP extensions,
is that if you ever
| > | > | > > > loose your local copy and have download a copy via FTP back to your machine,
is that you will
| > | > | > have
| > | > | > > > reapply any themes, recreate your navigation structure/links and shared
borders.
| > | > | > > >
| > | > | > > > --
| > | > | > > > ==============================================
| > | > | > > > Thomas A. Rowe (Microsoft MVP - FrontPage)
| > | > | > > > WEBMASTER Resources(tm)
| > | > | > > >
| > | > | > > > FrontPage Resources, WebCircle, MS KB Quick Links, etc.
| > | > | > > > ==============================================
| > | > | > > > To assist you in getting the best answers for FrontPage support see:
| > | > | > > > http://www.net-sites.com/sitebuilder/newsgroups.asp
| > | > | > > >
| > | > | > > > | > | > | > > > > I've been trying to follow his advice, but as I wrote, my hosting

server
is

an ftp server and
| > | > | > does
| > | > | > > > not allow me to attach to it via http, so I can't publish from the

live
site.

I DID, however,
| > | > | > use
| > | > | > > > WS-FTP to download the site to my computer...but lost the navigation & shared
borders. As soon
| > | > | > as I
| > | > | > > > attempted to add a shared border back in to these pages, I got the same
"Frontpage has
| > | > | > encountered a
| > | > | > > > problem and needs to close' message.
| > | > | > > > >
| > | > | > > > > I'm really stuck. I need to update our .org site and am off the air until I
can find a fix to
| > | > | > > > this!
| > | > | > > > >
| > | > | > > > > -sd
| > | > | > > > >
| > | > | > > > > "Thomas A. Rowe" wrote:
| > | > | > > > >
| > | > | > > > > > See Jim Buyens reply to your prior post.
| > | > | > > > > >
| > | > | > > > > > --
| > | > | > > > > > ==============================================
| > | > | > > > > > Thomas A. Rowe (Microsoft MVP - FrontPage)
| > | > | > > > > > WEBMASTER Resources(tm)
| > | > | > > > > >
| > | > | > > > > > FrontPage Resources, WebCircle, MS KB Quick Links, etc.
| > | > | > > > > > ==============================================
| > | > | > > > > > To assist you in getting the best answers for FrontPage support see:
| > | > | > > > > > http://www.net-sites.com/sitebuilder/newsgroups.asp
| > | > | > > > > >
| > | > | > > > > > | > | > | > > > > > > Can you help me understand why I can't use the same data folders with
the new copy of FP?
| > | > | > Is
| > | > | > > > there
| > | > | > > > > > something behind the scenes going on that isn't obvious?
| > | > | > > > > > >
| > | > | > > > > > > I can't pull down from the live site as it is an ftp site and FP doesn't
seem to support
| > | > | > that.
| > | > | > > > I
| > | > | > > > > > did try publishing the site from the old directory, but trying to

use
the

files in the new
| > | > | > > > folder
| > | > | > > > > > causes the same fault.
| > | > | > > > > > >
| > | > | > > > > > > "Thomas A. Rowe" wrote:
| > | > | > > > > > >
| > | > | > > > > > > > You need to publish them either from the old machine or from

the
live

site the new
| > | > | > machine
| > | > | > > > in
| > | > | > > > > > order
| > | > | > > > > > > > to maintain the web structure.
| > | > | > > > > > > >
| > | > | > > > > > > > --
| > | > | > > > > > > > ==============================================
| > | > | > > > > > > > Thomas A. Rowe (Microsoft MVP - FrontPage)
| > | > | > > > > > > > WEBMASTER Resources(tm)
| > | > | > > > > > > >
| > | > | > > > > > > > FrontPage Resources, WebCircle, MS KB Quick Links, etc.
| > | > | > > > > > > > ==============================================
| > | > | > > > > > > > To assist you in getting the best answers for FrontPage

support
see:

| > | > | > > > > > > > http://www.net-sites.com/sitebuilder/newsgroups.asp
| > | > | > > > > > > >
| > | > | > > > > > > > | > | > | > > > > > > > > I installed Frontpage on the new computer, then moved all of

my
data

files to the new
| > | > | > > > computer
| > | > | > > > > > as
| > | > | > > > > > > > well.
| > | > | > > > > > > > >
| > | > | > > > > > > > > One other problem found tonight. When opening web pages in IE6SP1, I
seem to be
| > | > | > getting an
| > | > | > > > > > > > occasional 'debug' error that points to a java line. I don't have
enough expertise to
| > | > | > know
| > | > | > > > if
| > | > | > > > > > there
| > | > | > > > > > > > is any relation to the Frontpage fault. <?>
| > | > | > > > > > > > >
| > | > | > > > > > > > > -Steve
| > | > | > > > > > > > >
| > | > | > > > > > > > > "Thomas A. Rowe" wrote:
| > | > | > > > > > > > >
| > | > | > > > > > > > > > How did you move the site from the old computer to the new
computer?
| > | > | > > > > > > > > >
| > | > | > > > > > > > > > --
| > | > | > > > > > > > > > ==============================================
| > | > | > > > > > > > > > Thomas A. Rowe (Microsoft MVP - FrontPage)
| > | > | > > > > > > > > > WEBMASTER Resources(tm)
| > | > | > > > > > > > > >
| > | > | > > > > > > > > > FrontPage Resources, WebCircle, MS KB Quick Links, etc.
| > | > | > > > > > > > > > ==============================================
| > | > | > > > > > > > > > To assist you in getting the best answers for FrontPage support
see:
| > | > | > > > > > > > > > http://www.net-sites.com/sitebuilder/newsgroups.asp
| > | > | > > > > > > > > >
| > | > | > > > > > > > > > | > | > | > > > > > > > > > > Yikes! All of a sudden, I can't open any second page in
Frontpage 2002 or click on
| > | > | > a
| > | > | > > > link
| > | > | > > > > > > > without
| > | > | > > > > > > > > > getting a fault causing Frontpage to close. I did move my sites to
a new computer a
| > | > | > > > couple
| > | > | > > > > > of
| > | > | > > > > > > > weeks
| > | > | > > > > > > > > > ago and reinstalled Frontpage 2002 with all of the current
updates. Used it
| > | > | > succesfully
| > | > | > > > with
| > | > | > > > > > no
| > | > | > > > > > > > > > problem after that. Nothing new in Frontpage or my website pages
since then. Not
| > | > | > other
| > | > | > > > > > problems
| > | > | > > > > > > > that
| > | > | > > > > > > > > > I've found in other MS programs or any other programs...only
Frontpage. Using WinXP
| > | > | > > > SP1;
| > | > | > > > > > Office
| > | > | > > > > > > > XP
| > | > | > > > > > > > > > SP3.
| > | > | > > > > > > > > > >
| > | > | > > > > > > > > > > HELP!!!
| > | > | > > > > > > > > > >
| > | > | > > > > > > > > > > -sd
| > | > | > > > > > > > > > >
| > | > | > > > > > > > > > > PS A follow up to this. I've now totally uninstalled and
reinstalled Frontpage.
| > | > | > I've
| > | > | > > > > > started
| > | > | > > > > > > > > > Windows in Safe Mode...nothing else running on the

machine.
And

STILL get this
| > | > | > fault. I
| > | > | > > > can
| > | > | > > > > > open
| > | > | > > > > > > > one
| > | > | > > > > > > > > > page. Then, even if I close that page, as soon as I try to open a
second or click on
| > | > | > a
| > | > | > > > link,
| > | > | > > > > > > > Fault!
| > | > | > > > > > > > > > <sigh>
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