Can't get Win2000 running

[davegb]

I re-installed Win2000 last week. Now I can barely get it to run. I
keep getting those irritating Messenger Service messages one after
another. I've tried to download and install SP4 but it hangs part way
through. Now, when I try to go to any website, it times out before it
can load. I'm getting pretty frustrated. I'm thinking that I may be
forced to upgrade to XP Pro, but I don't really want to if I don't have
to. Does anyone else have any suggestions? Any other alternatives?

Thanks in advance.

 

[Steve Parry]

I re-installed Win2000 last week. Now I can barely get it to run. I
keep getting those irritating Messenger Service messages one after
another. I've tried to download and install SP4 but it hangs part way
through. Now, when I try to go to any website, it times out before it
can load. I'm getting pretty frustrated. I'm thinking that I may be
forced to upgrade to XP Pro, but I don't really want to if I don't have
to. Does anyone else have any suggestions? Any other alternatives?

Thanks in advance.

you can order the CD if in the US

http://www.microsoft.com/windows2000/downloads/servicepacks/SP4/ordercd.mspx

Or download as one install file, perhaps from another PC if your's is having
problems?

http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/...F1-749F-49F4-8010-297BD6CA33A0&displaylang=en

you can stop the Messenger messages by stopping the Messenger service
although this only masks the problem. What you really need to do is install
a good anti virus and firewall.

 

[davegb]

you can order the CD if in the US

http://www.microsoft.com/windows2000/downloads/servicepacks/SP4/ordercd.mspx

Or download as one install file, perhaps from another PC if your's is having
problems?

http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/...F1-749F-49F4-8010-297BD6CA33A0&displaylang=en

you can stop the Messenger messages by stopping the Messenger service
although this only masks the problem. What you really need to do is install
a good anti virus and firewall.

Steve,
Thanks for your reply. I'm downloading the file as I am replying to
you. I intend to get the firewall and the AV software. Do you
reccommend any in particular?
Dave

 

[Steve Parry]

Steve,
Thanks for your reply. I'm downloading the file as I am replying to
you. I intend to get the firewall and the AV software. Do you
reccommend any in particular?
Dave

Well my personal preference for anti virus is F-Secure, but it is a retail
product. There are free alternatives, such as
http://free.grisoft.com/doc/1

I've not used it but I understand others rate it highly

I've used Kerio in the past and again it is a retail product.

http://www.personalfirewall.comodo.com/ appears to be free but I cannot
comment or recommend as I've not used it

 

[Steve Parry]

Steve,
Thanks for your reply. I'm downloading the file as I am replying to
you. I intend to get the firewall and the AV software. Do you
reccommend any in particular?
Dave

PS F-Secure do however do a total package

 

[Steve Parry]

Steve,
Thanks for your reply. I'm downloading the file as I am replying to
you. I intend to get the firewall and the AV software. Do you
reccommend any in particular?
Dave

http://www.f-secure.com/home_user/complete_protection.html

 

[Stubby]

http://www.avast.com the Home Edition is free, but must be renewed
every 14 months. I have had NO problems with it.

 

[nesredep egrob]

Steve,
Thanks for your reply. I'm downloading the file as I am replying to
you. I intend to get the firewall and the AV software. Do you
reccommend any in particular?
Dave

I am using ZoneAlarm which is free for private use. It is not too difficult to
work - I feel I can recommend it

http://www.zonelabs.com

Borge in sunny Perth, Australia

 

[Dave Patrick]

If you connected to the internet prior to installing certain updates it may
be too late.

To do a clean install, either boot the Windows 2000 install CD-Rom or setup
disks. The set of four install disks can be created from your Windows 2000
CD-Rom; change to the \bootdisk directory on the CD-Rom and execute
makeboot.exe (from dos) or makebt32.exe (from 32 bit) and follow the
prompts.

Setup inspects your computer's hardware configuration and then begins to
install the Setup and driver files. When the Windows 2000 Professional
screen appears, press ENTER to set up Windows 2000 Professional.

Read the license agreement, and then press the F8 key to accept the terms of
the license agreement and continue the installation.

When the Windows 2000 Professional Setup screen appears, all the existing
partitions and the unpartitioned spaces are listed for each physical hard
disk. Use the ARROW keys to select the partitions Press D to delete an
existing partition, If you press D to delete an existing partition, you must
then press L (or press ENTER, and then press L if it is the System
partition) to confirm that you want to delete the partition. Repeat this
step for each of the existing partitions When all the partitions are deleted
press F3 to exit setup, (to avoid unexpected drive letter assignments with
your new install) then restart the pc then when you get to this point in
setup again select the unpartitioned space, and then press C to create a new
partition and specify the size (if required). Windows will by default use
all available space.

Be sure to apply SP4 and these two below to your new install before
connecting to any network. Internet included. (sasser, msblast)
http://download.microsoft.com/download/E/6/A/E6A04295-D2A8-40D0-A0C5-241BFECD095E/W2KSP4_EN.EXE
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/security/bulletin/MS03-043.mspx
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/security/bulletin/MS03-049.mspx

Then

Rollup 1 for Microsoft Windows 2000 Service Pack 4
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/...CF-8850-4531-B52B-BF28B324C662&displaylang=en


If you're installing Windows XP then;

To do a clean install, boot the Windows XP install CD-Rom. Setup inspects
your computer's hardware configuration and then begins to install the setup
and driver files. When the Windows XP Professional screen appears, press
ENTER to set up Windows XP Professional.

(Note: If your drive controller is not natively supported then you'll want
to boot the Windows XP CD-Rom. Then *F6* very early and very important (at
setup is inspecting your system) in the setup to prevent drive controller
detection, and select S to specify additional drivers. Then later you'll be
prompted to insert the manufacturer supplied Windows XP driver for your
drive controller in drive "A")

Read the license agreement, and then press the F8 key to accept the terms of
the license agreement and continue the installation.

When the Windows XP Professional Setup screen appears, all the existing
partitions and the unpartitioned spaces are listed for each physical hard
disk. Use the ARROW keys to select the partitions Press D to delete an
existing partition, If you press D to delete an existing partition, you must
then press L (or press ENTER, and then press L if it is the System
partition) to confirm that you want to delete the partition. Repeat this
step for each of the existing partitions When all the partitions are deleted
press F3 to exit setup, (to avoid unexpected drive letter assignments with
your new install) then restart the pc then when you get to this point in
setup again select the unpartitioned space, and then press C to create a new
partition and specify the size (if required). Windows will by default use
all available space.

Be sure to apply SP2 or at least these two below to your new install before
connecting to any network. Internet included. (sasser, msblast)
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/...be-3b8e-4f30-8245-9e368d3cdb5a&displaylang=en

http://www.microsoft.com/technet/security/bulletin/MS03-043.mspx
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/security/bulletin/MS03-049.mspx


--

Regards,

Dave Patrick ....Please no email replies - reply in newsgroup.
Microsoft Certified Professional
Microsoft MVP [Windows]
http://www.microsoft.com/protect

:
|I re-installed Win2000 last week. Now I can barely get it to run. I
| keep getting those irritating Messenger Service messages one after
| another. I've tried to download and install SP4 but it hangs part way
| through. Now, when I try to go to any website, it times out before it
| can load. I'm getting pretty frustrated. I'm thinking that I may be
| forced to upgrade to XP Pro, but I don't really want to if I don't have
| to. Does anyone else have any suggestions? Any other alternatives?
|
| Thanks in advance.
|

 

[davegb]

If you connected to the internet prior to installing certain updates it may
be too late.

To do a clean install, either boot the Windows 2000 install CD-Rom or setup
disks. The set of four install disks can be created from your Windows 2000
CD-Rom; change to the \bootdisk directory on the CD-Rom and execute
makeboot.exe (from dos) or makebt32.exe (from 32 bit) and follow the
prompts.

Setup inspects your computer's hardware configuration and then begins to
install the Setup and driver files. When the Windows 2000 Professional
screen appears, press ENTER to set up Windows 2000 Professional.

Read the license agreement, and then press the F8 key to accept the terms of
the license agreement and continue the installation.

When the Windows 2000 Professional Setup screen appears, all the existing
partitions and the unpartitioned spaces are listed for each physical hard
disk. Use the ARROW keys to select the partitions Press D to delete an
existing partition, If you press D to delete an existing partition, you must
then press L (or press ENTER, and then press L if it is the System
partition) to confirm that you want to delete the partition. Repeat this
step for each of the existing partitions When all the partitions are deleted
press F3 to exit setup, (to avoid unexpected drive letter assignments with
your new install) then restart the pc then when you get to this point in
setup again select the unpartitioned space, and then press C to create a new
partition and specify the size (if required). Windows will by default use
all available space.

Be sure to apply SP4 and these two below to your new install before
connecting to any network. Internet included. (sasser, msblast)
http://download.microsoft.com/download/E/6/A/E6A04295-D2A8-40D0-A0C5-241BFECD095E/W2KSP4_EN.EXE
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/security/bulletin/MS03-043.mspx
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/security/bulletin/MS03-049.mspx

Then

Rollup 1 for Microsoft Windows 2000 Service Pack 4
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/...CF-8850-4531-B52B-BF28B324C662&displaylang=en


If you're installing Windows XP then;

To do a clean install, boot the Windows XP install CD-Rom. Setup inspects
your computer's hardware configuration and then begins to install the setup
and driver files. When the Windows XP Professional screen appears, press
ENTER to set up Windows XP Professional.

(Note: If your drive controller is not natively supported then you'll want
to boot the Windows XP CD-Rom. Then *F6* very early and very important (at
setup is inspecting your system) in the setup to prevent drive controller
detection, and select S to specify additional drivers. Then later you'll be
prompted to insert the manufacturer supplied Windows XP driver for your
drive controller in drive "A")

Read the license agreement, and then press the F8 key to accept the terms of
the license agreement and continue the installation.

When the Windows XP Professional Setup screen appears, all the existing
partitions and the unpartitioned spaces are listed for each physical hard
disk. Use the ARROW keys to select the partitions Press D to delete an
existing partition, If you press D to delete an existing partition, you must
then press L (or press ENTER, and then press L if it is the System
partition) to confirm that you want to delete the partition. Repeat this
step for each of the existing partitions When all the partitions are deleted
press F3 to exit setup, (to avoid unexpected drive letter assignments with
your new install) then restart the pc then when you get to this point in
setup again select the unpartitioned space, and then press C to create a new
partition and specify the size (if required). Windows will by default use
all available space.

Be sure to apply SP2 or at least these two below to your new install before
connecting to any network. Internet included. (sasser, msblast)
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/...be-3b8e-4f30-8245-9e368d3cdb5a&displaylang=en

http://www.microsoft.com/technet/security/bulletin/MS03-043.mspx
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/security/bulletin/MS03-049.mspx


--

Regards,

Dave Patrick ....Please no email replies - reply in newsgroup.
Microsoft Certified Professional
Microsoft MVP [Windows]
http://www.microsoft.com/protect

Wow! I wish I'd had these detailed instructions before I re-installed
Win2000. I guess I get to do it all over again.

Thanks to everyone who chimed in here with advice. I'm printing out all
your suggestions, will track down some good AV software and get a
firewall to install before I go online after the new install.

 

[davegb]

If you connected to the internet prior to installing certain updates it may
be too late.

To do a clean install, either boot the Windows 2000 install CD-Rom or setup
disks. The set of four install disks can be created from your Windows 2000
CD-Rom; change to the \bootdisk directory on the CD-Rom and execute
makeboot.exe (from dos) or makebt32.exe (from 32 bit) and follow the
prompts.

Setup inspects your computer's hardware configuration and then begins to
install the Setup and driver files. When the Windows 2000 Professional
screen appears, press ENTER to set up Windows 2000 Professional.

Read the license agreement, and then press the F8 key to accept the terms of
the license agreement and continue the installation.

When the Windows 2000 Professional Setup screen appears, all the existing
partitions and the unpartitioned spaces are listed for each physical hard
disk. Use the ARROW keys to select the partitions Press D to delete an
existing partition, If you press D to delete an existing partition, you must
then press L (or press ENTER, and then press L if it is the System
partition) to confirm that you want to delete the partition. Repeat this
step for each of the existing partitions When all the partitions are deleted
press F3 to exit setup, (to avoid unexpected drive letter assignments with
your new install) then restart the pc then when you get to this point in
setup again select the unpartitioned space, and then press C to create a new
partition and specify the size (if required). Windows will by default use
all available space.

Be sure to apply SP4 and these two below to your new install before
connecting to any network. Internet included. (sasser, msblast)
http://download.microsoft.com/download/E/6/A/E6A04295-D2A8-40D0-A0C5-241BFECD095E/W2KSP4_EN.EXE
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/security/bulletin/MS03-043.mspx
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/security/bulletin/MS03-049.mspx

Then

Rollup 1 for Microsoft Windows 2000 Service Pack 4
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/...CF-8850-4531-B52B-BF28B324C662&displaylang=en

When I went to download this on my computer at work, it asked if I want
to install and run this package. Obviously, I don't want to install it
on my computer at work. The IT dept would have a cow! So I guess I have
to wait to install this until I get Win2000 up and running and get
those other patches (like SP4) running, then install the Rollup. Is
that correct? I've already downloaded SP4 and those other patches to
install on my computer when I get Win2000 re-installed.

My next computer will definitely be a Mac!

Thanks again!

If you're installing Windows XP then;

To do a clean install, boot the Windows XP install CD-Rom. Setup inspects
your computer's hardware configuration and then begins to install the setup
and driver files. When the Windows XP Professional screen appears, press
ENTER to set up Windows XP Professional.

(Note: If your drive controller is not natively supported then you'll want
to boot the Windows XP CD-Rom. Then *F6* very early and very important (at
setup is inspecting your system) in the setup to prevent drive controller
detection, and select S to specify additional drivers. Then later you'll be
prompted to insert the manufacturer supplied Windows XP driver for your
drive controller in drive "A")

Read the license agreement, and then press the F8 key to accept the terms of
the license agreement and continue the installation.

When the Windows XP Professional Setup screen appears, all the existing
partitions and the unpartitioned spaces are listed for each physical hard
disk. Use the ARROW keys to select the partitions Press D to delete an
existing partition, If you press D to delete an existing partition, you must
then press L (or press ENTER, and then press L if it is the System
partition) to confirm that you want to delete the partition. Repeat this
step for each of the existing partitions When all the partitions are deleted
press F3 to exit setup, (to avoid unexpected drive letter assignments with
your new install) then restart the pc then when you get to this point in
setup again select the unpartitioned space, and then press C to create a new
partition and specify the size (if required). Windows will by default use
all available space.

Be sure to apply SP2 or at least these two below to your new install before
connecting to any network. Internet included. (sasser, msblast)
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/...be-3b8e-4f30-8245-9e368d3cdb5a&displaylang=en

http://www.microsoft.com/technet/security/bulletin/MS03-043.mspx
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/security/bulletin/MS03-049.mspx

Thanks for the instructions on XP. I didn't know when I posted
yesterday that I was going to get a free copy of XP, though not for a
couple of months (found out last night). So I need to get Win2000
running to keep me in business until XP gets here, then install XP.
I'll keep these instructions so I'll be set to go when XP gets here. Of
course, this means I need to get AV and firewall software that are
compatible with both 2000 and XP, but that shouldn't be a problem.

--

Regards,

Dave Patrick ....Please no email replies - reply in newsgroup.
Microsoft Certified Professional
Microsoft MVP [Windows]
http://www.microsoft.com/protect

:
|I re-installed Win2000 last week. Now I can barely get it to run. I
| keep getting those irritating Messenger Service messages one after
| another. I've tried to download and install SP4 but it hangs part way
| through. Now, when I try to go to any website, it times out before it
| can load. I'm getting pretty frustrated. I'm thinking that I may be
| forced to upgrade to XP Pro, but I don't really want to if I don't have
| to. Does anyone else have any suggestions? Any other alternatives?
|
| Thanks in advance.
|

 

[Dave Patrick]

Yes, the rollup is the last step.

--

Regards,

Dave Patrick ....Please no email replies - reply in newsgroup.
Microsoft Certified Professional
Microsoft MVP [Windows]
http://www.microsoft.com/protect

:
| When I went to download this on my computer at work, it asked if I want
| to install and run this package. Obviously, I don't want to install it
| on my computer at work. The IT dept would have a cow! So I guess I have
| to wait to install this until I get Win2000 up and running and get
| those other patches (like SP4) running, then install the Rollup. Is
| that correct? I've already downloaded SP4 and those other patches to
| install on my computer when I get Win2000 re-installed.
|
| My next computer will definitely be a Mac!
|
| Thanks again!
|
|
| >
| >
| > If you're installing Windows XP then;
| >
| > To do a clean install, boot the Windows XP install CD-Rom. Setup
inspects
| > your computer's hardware configuration and then begins to install the
setup
| > and driver files. When the Windows XP Professional screen appears, press
| > ENTER to set up Windows XP Professional.
| >
| > (Note: If your drive controller is not natively supported then you'll
want
| > to boot the Windows XP CD-Rom. Then *F6* very early and very important
(at
| > setup is inspecting your system) in the setup to prevent drive
controller
| > detection, and select S to specify additional drivers. Then later you'll
be
| > prompted to insert the manufacturer supplied Windows XP driver for your
| > drive controller in drive "A")
| >
| > Read the license agreement, and then press the F8 key to accept the
terms of
| > the license agreement and continue the installation.
| >
| > When the Windows XP Professional Setup screen appears, all the existing
| > partitions and the unpartitioned spaces are listed for each physical
hard
| > disk. Use the ARROW keys to select the partitions Press D to delete an
| > existing partition, If you press D to delete an existing partition, you
must
| > then press L (or press ENTER, and then press L if it is the System
| > partition) to confirm that you want to delete the partition. Repeat this
| > step for each of the existing partitions When all the partitions are
deleted
| > press F3 to exit setup, (to avoid unexpected drive letter assignments
with
| > your new install) then restart the pc then when you get to this point in
| > setup again select the unpartitioned space, and then press C to create a
new
| > partition and specify the size (if required). Windows will by default
use
| > all available space.
| >
| > Be sure to apply SP2 or at least these two below to your new install
before
| > connecting to any network. Internet included. (sasser, msblast)
| >
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/...be-3b8e-4f30-8245-9e368d3cdb5a&displaylang=en
| >
| > http://www.microsoft.com/technet/security/bulletin/MS03-043.mspx
| > http://www.microsoft.com/technet/security/bulletin/MS03-049.mspx
| >
|
| Thanks for the instructions on XP. I didn't know when I posted
| yesterday that I was going to get a free copy of XP, though not for a
| couple of months (found out last night). So I need to get Win2000
| running to keep me in business until XP gets here, then install XP.
| I'll keep these instructions so I'll be set to go when XP gets here. Of
| course, this means I need to get AV and firewall software that are
| compatible with both 2000 and XP, but that shouldn't be a problem.

 

[Dave Patrick]

You're welcome.

--

Regards,

Dave Patrick ....Please no email replies - reply in newsgroup.
Microsoft Certified Professional
Microsoft MVP [Windows]
http://www.microsoft.com/protect

:
| Wow! I wish I'd had these detailed instructions before I re-installed
| Win2000. I guess I get to do it all over again.
|
| Thanks to everyone who chimed in here with advice. I'm printing out all
| your suggestions, will track down some good AV software and get a
| firewall to install before I go online after the new install.