Can't connect to Internet through Linksys router

C

Crazy Cat

This is driving me to drink.

I have a windows xp professional (service pack 3) box connected to a
Linksys WRT 160N router. The router is connected to a Motorola Cable
Modem. Also connected to the router is a Linksys VOIP box and a Linux
(Slackware) box. I have no problem using the VOIP box, and the Linux
box can get to the internet with no problem. The problem I am having
is that the Windows XP box cannot connect to the internet at all. I
can't even ping addresses outside of my internal network. I can see
and access shares on my network no problem. When I disconnect the
router and connect the XP box directly to the modem I can access the
internet with absolutely no problem.

What the hell is going on? I've tried reseting the machine and the
router but to no avail.
I talked to Linksys support and after three hours they suggested I
should reinstall the OS.
Well, I'm hoping I won't have to do that.

I even have another XP Pro box connected via the router's wireless and
I can ultravnc to that box and access the internet!!!!

All was going fine with my older WRT54G which finally bit the dust,
prompting me to get this new router which appears to work for two PC's
and a VOIP box, but not my main XP professional box!!!

PLEASE HELP!
 
S

smlunatick

This is driving me to drink.

I have a windows xp professional  (service pack 3) box connected to a
Linksys WRT 160N router. The router is connected to a Motorola Cable
Modem. Also connected to the router is a Linksys VOIP box and a Linux
(Slackware) box. I have no problem using the VOIP box, and the Linux
box can get to the internet with no problem. The problem I am having
is that the Windows XP box cannot connect to the internet at all. I
can't even ping addresses outside of my internal network. I can see
and access shares on my network no problem. When I disconnect the
router and connect the XP box directly to the modem I can access the
internet with absolutely no problem.

What the hell is going on? I've tried reseting the machine and the
router but to no avail.
I talked to Linksys support and after three hours they suggested I
should reinstall the OS.
Well, I'm hoping I won't have to do that.

I even have another XP Pro box connected via the router's wireless and
I can ultravnc to that box and access the internet!!!!

All was going fine with my older WRT54G which finally bit the dust,
prompting me to get this new router which appears to work for two PC's
and a VOIP box, but not my main XP professional box!!!

PLEASE HELP!

Check you anti-virus / firewall software. Several newer anti-virus /
firewall software now need to be told to "trust" the access to the
SSID. You have changed routers therefore the wireless SSID is / might
be different than the original WRT54G router.
 
L

Lem

Crazy said:
This is driving me to drink.

I have a windows xp professional (service pack 3) box connected to a
Linksys WRT 160N router. The router is connected to a Motorola Cable
Modem. Also connected to the router is a Linksys VOIP box and a Linux
(Slackware) box. I have no problem using the VOIP box, and the Linux
box can get to the internet with no problem. The problem I am having
is that the Windows XP box cannot connect to the internet at all. I
can't even ping addresses outside of my internal network. I can see
and access shares on my network no problem. When I disconnect the
router and connect the XP box directly to the modem I can access the
internet with absolutely no problem.

What the hell is going on? I've tried reseting the machine and the
router but to no avail.
I talked to Linksys support and after three hours they suggested I
should reinstall the OS.
Well, I'm hoping I won't have to do that.

I even have another XP Pro box connected via the router's wireless and
I can ultravnc to that box and access the internet!!!!

All was going fine with my older WRT54G which finally bit the dust,
prompting me to get this new router which appears to work for two PC's
and a VOIP box, but not my main XP professional box!!!

PLEASE HELP!

What does ipconfig /all show (when connected to the router)?
Can you access the router's configuration utility?

--
Lem -- MS-MVP

To the moon and back with 2K words of RAM and 36K words of ROM.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apollo_Guidance_Computer
http://history.nasa.gov/afj/compessay.htm
 
C

Crazy Cat

What does ipconfig /all show (when connected to the router)?
Can you access the router's configuration utility?

I'm not running any firewall -- I even turned off AVG anti-virus to
see if maybe it was using a 'stealth' firewall.

Yes, I can see the router's configuration utility (it's accessible via
an IP address). Here's what ipconfig /all shows me

Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection:

Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : hsd1.va.comcast.net.
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Realtek RTL8168/8111 PCI-E
Gigabit E
thernet NIC
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-1A-92-E2-4C-CE
Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.104
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1
DHCP Server . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1
DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 68.87.73.242
68.87.71.226
Lease Obtained. . . . . . . . . . : Tuesday, September 02,
2008 2:44:25
AM
Lease Expires . . . . . . . . . . : Wednesday, September 03,
2008 2:44:2
5 AM

Thanks --

I can't even ping the DNS addresses. BTW, I'm not connecting
wirelessly to the computer in question -- using an ethernet cable
(I've tried two different ones, so I'm pretty sure there's nothing
wrong with the cables. Besides, I can access local shares with no
problems).

Thanks
 
C

Crazy Cat

I'm not running any firewall -- I even turned off AVG anti-virus to
see if maybe it was using a 'stealth' firewall.

Yes, I can see the router's configuration utility (it's accessible via
an IP address). Here's what ipconfig /all shows me

Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection:

        Connection-specific DNS Suffix  . : hsd1.va.comcast.net..
        Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Realtek RTL8168/8111 PCI-E
Gigabit E
thernet NIC
        Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-1A-92-E2-4C-CE
        Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes
        Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
        IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.104
        Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
        Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1
        DHCP Server . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1
        DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 68.87.73.242
                                            68.87.71.226
        Lease Obtained. . . . . . . . . . : Tuesday, September 02,
2008 2:44:25
AM
        Lease Expires . . . . . . . . . . : Wednesday, September 03,
2008 2:44:2
5 AM

Thanks --

I can't even ping the DNS addresses. BTW, I'm not connecting
wirelessly to the computer in question -- using an ethernet cable
(I've tried two different ones, so I'm pretty sure there's nothing
wrong with the cables. Besides, I can access local shares with no
problems).

Thanks- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Just some additional info -- I am able to access the IP address
assigned to my router, but other than that I cannot access any
external addresses (whether by IP addresss or name). No problem access
any internal addresses. If indeed something is blocking my access to
external addresses how chould I troubleshoot it -- is there some kind
of opensource software?
 
S

smlunatick

Just some additional info -- I am able to access the IP address
assigned to my router, but other than that I cannot access any
external addresses (whether by IP addresss or name). No problem access
any internal addresses.  If indeed something is blocking my access to
external addresses how chould I troubleshoot it -- is there some kind
of opensource software?

So, you can access the router's IP address. The LAN PI
(192.168.xxx.yyy) or the Internet IP address (67.xxx.xxx.xxx.) Cable
modems usually operate in a DHCP access mode from your service
provider. If you switch the modem between a PC / router, you need to
power it off in order for it request a new IP address. However, there
is another limit that some service providers might place on there
service. They may "lock" the cable modem to only grant an IP to a
specific network adapter physical id address (aka MAC address.) Some
routers offer a option where to can "trick" a cable modem MAC address
connection by allowing your to "copy" the MAC address from the working
network adapter onto their WAN port.
 
L

Lem

Crazy said:
Just some additional info -- I am able to access the IP address
assigned to my router, but other than that I cannot access any
external addresses (whether by IP addresss or name). No problem access
any internal addresses. If indeed something is blocking my access to
external addresses how chould I troubleshoot it -- is there some kind
of opensource software?

MAC address issues, which is what smlunatick is suggesting, might be the
problem, but then I would expect problems with the Linux box also.
Still, try power cycling your cable modem. If that doesn't help, the
only other thing I can think of is that there is some MAC address or IP
filter, or something similar, set in the router. Nothing like that
*should* be set in a new router right out of the box, but it doesn't
hurt to look. One other desperation ploy would be to disconnect the
Linux box after first finding its IP address and then set that IP
address as a static address for the XP box. When setting a static
address for the XP box, don't forget to include the router's LAN IP as
the default gateway.

--
Lem -- MS-MVP

To the moon and back with 2K words of RAM and 36K words of ROM.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apollo_Guidance_Computer
http://history.nasa.gov/afj/compessay.htm
 
C

Crazy Cat

MAC address issues, which is what smlunatick is suggesting, might be the
problem, but then I would expect problems with the Linux box also.
Still, try power cycling your cable modem.  If that doesn't help, the
only other thing I can think of is that there is some MAC address or IP
filter, or something similar, set in the router.  Nothing like that
*should* be set in a new router right out of the box, but it doesn't
hurt to look.  One other desperation ploy would be to disconnect the
Linux box after first finding its IP address and then set that IP
address as a static address for the XP box.  When setting a static
address for the XP box, don't forget to include the router's LAN IP as
the default gateway.

I cloned the MAC address so it has the same MAC as the computer's
network card. I also power cycled the modem, and finally unplugged the
linux box, set the XP box's address to match that of the Linux box
(along with pointing the gateway to the router's LAN side address
192.168.1.1) but still no go.

I really appreciate the help guys, but I am ready to throw this damn
computer out the window at this point ... :-(

FRUSTRATED
 
J

John Wunderlich

m:

[...]
I cloned the MAC address so it has the same MAC as the computer's
network card. I also power cycled the modem, and finally unplugged
the linux box, set the XP box's address to match that of the Linux
box (along with pointing the gateway to the router's LAN side
address 192.168.1.1) but still no go.

I really appreciate the help guys, but I am ready to throw this
damn computer out the window at this point ... :-(

FRUSTRATED

Strange symptoms!

From what I've read, I'm more inclined to think that it is a router
problem than a computer problem. Have you tried connecting another
computer to your internal network in place of the one you're having
problems with? Have you tried connecting your computer to a friend's
network?

Have you tried downloading and installing the latest firmware upgrade
to your router from Linksys? According to the website, the latest
version is 4.9.8101 dated 5/14/2008

In the Advanced Routing router configuration section, NAT should be
enabled... Have you try resetting to Factory Defaults on the router
(located on the Advanced / Administration settings page)?

Try unplugging from the wall (removing power) from all equipment
(modem, router) and disconnect all devices from the router except the
modem (the Modem is plugged into the WAN/Internet port, I hope). Then
plug in the modem first, wait half a minute, then the router, then try
plugging in your computer (only) into the router.

HTH,
John
 
C

Crazy Cat

m:

[...]
I cloned the MAC address so it has the same MAC as the computer's
network card. I also power cycled the modem, and finally unplugged
the linux box, set the XP box's address to match that of the Linux
box (along with pointing the gateway to the router's LAN side
address 192.168.1.1) but still no go.
I really appreciate the help guys, but I am ready to throw this
damn computer out the window at this point ... :-(
FRUSTRATED

Strange symptoms!

From what I've read, I'm more inclined to think that it is a router
problem than a computer problem.  Have you tried connecting another
computer to your internal network in place of the one you're having
problems with?

Yup, took the working Linux computer and connected it to the same port
--
still works fine, but the XP box is dead in the water when it comes to
internet ...

 Have you tried connecting your computer to a friend's
network?  

It's kind of a big desktop -- I think I'll save lugging it to a
friend's as a really
really last step, but I'm getting desperate :-(
Have you tried downloading and installing the latest firmware upgrade
to your router from Linksys?  According to the website, the latest
version is 4.9.8101  dated 5/14/2008    

You're thinking of v1 -- I have the 160N v2 -- there are no firmware
updates
as of this date for this version.
In the Advanced Routing router configuration section, NAT should be
enabled...  Have you try resetting to Factory Defaults on the router
(located on the Advanced / Administration settings page)?

Yup, tried this step.
Try unplugging from the wall (removing power) from all equipment
(modem, router) and disconnect all devices from the router except the
modem (the Modem is plugged into the WAN/Internet port, I hope).  Then
plug in the modem first, wait half a minute, then the router, then try
plugging in your computer (only) into the router.

Still no go.
 
J

John Wunderlich

Still no go.

Really odd problem. If I were you at this point, I'd probably fireup a
copy of Wireshark and examine the packets going in and out of your
computer looking for where things are going wrong.

If you could borrow another router, swapping out the router might be
something to try, too. (Might be easier than lugging that computer to
another network).

Good Luck,
John
 
C

Crazy Cat

m:
I cloned the MAC address so it has the same MAC as the computer's
network card. I also power cycled the modem, and finally unplugged
the linux box, set the XP box's address to match that of the Linux
box (along with pointing the gateway to the router's LAN side
address 192.168.1.1) but still no go.
I really appreciate the help guys, but I am ready to throw this
damn computer out the window at this point ... :-(
FRUSTRATED
Strange symptoms!
From what I've read, I'm more inclined to think that it is a router
problem than a computer problem.  Have you tried connecting another
computer to your internal network in place of the one you're having
problems with?

Yup, took the working Linux computer and connected it to the same port
--
still works fine, but the XP box is dead in the water when it comes to
internet ...

  Have you tried connecting your computer to a friend's
network?  

It's kind of a big desktop -- I think I'll save lugging it to a
friend's as a really
really last step, but I'm getting desperate :-(


Have you tried downloading and installing the latest firmware upgrade
to your router fromLinksys?  According to the website, the latest
version is 4.9.8101  dated 5/14/2008    

You're thinking of v1 -- I have the 160N v2 -- there are no firmware
updates
as of this date for this version.


In the Advanced Routing router configuration section, NAT should be
enabled...  Have you try resetting to Factory Defaults on the router
(located on the Advanced / Administration settings page)?

Yup, tried this step.


Try unplugging from the wall (removing power) from all equipment
(modem, router) and disconnect all devices from the router except the
modem (the Modem is plugged into the WAN/Internet port, I hope).  Then
plug in the modem first, wait half a minute, then the router, then try
plugging in your computer (only) into the router.

Still no go.


HTH,
  John- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Since I've only had the router for a week, I decided that I was
through. I went and got a D-Link N Router and surprise, surprise it
connected with no problem. Thanks anyways guys -- pretty sure
something was buggy about the Linksys but the support people didn't
want to admit it. Anyways I'm happily surfing now.

Thanks again -- I love usenet!!!
 
L

Lem

Crazy said:
Since I've only had the router for a week, I decided that I was
through. I went and got a D-Link N Router and surprise, surprise it
connected with no problem. Thanks anyways guys -- pretty sure
something was buggy about the Linksys but the support people didn't
want to admit it. Anyways I'm happily surfing now.

Thanks again -- I love usenet!!!

Thanks for letting us all know. I glad things are working now.

--
Lem -- MS-MVP

To the moon and back with 2K words of RAM and 36K words of ROM.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apollo_Guidance_Computer
http://history.nasa.gov/afj/compessay.htm
 
S

smlunatick

m:
[...]
I cloned the MAC address so it has the same MAC as the computer's
network card. I also power cycled the modem, and finally unplugged
the linux box, set the XP box's address to match that of the Linux
box (along with pointing the gateway to the router's LAN side
address 192.168.1.1) but still no go.
I really appreciate the help guys, but I am ready to throw this
damn computer out the window at this point ... :-(
FRUSTRATED
Strange symptoms!
From what I've read, I'm more inclined to think that it is a router
problem than a computer problem.  Have you tried connecting another
computer to your internal network in place of the one you're having
problems with?
Yup, took the working Linux computer and connected it to the same port
  Have you tried connecting your computer to a friend's
It's kind of a big desktop -- I think I'll save lugging it to a
friend's as a really
really last step, but I'm getting desperate :-(
You're thinking of v1 -- I have the 160N v2 -- there are no firmware
updates
as of this date for this version.
Yup, tried this step.
Still no go.
- Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -

Since I've only had the router for a week, I decided that I was
through. I went and got a D-Link N Router and surprise, surprise it
connected with no problem. Thanks anyways guys -- pretty sure
something was buggy about the Linksys but the support people didn't
want to admit it. Anyways I'm happily surfing now.

Thanks again -- I love usenet!!!

Any products can have some "lemons" pass during the production run.
 
P

Phil

I am writing this letter to ALL Wireless Router manufacturers.
I have a Linksys Wireless Router Model:BEFW11S4. It is 7 years (yes, count
them, all of seven little years) old. I have visited the Linksys website
numerous times trying to set up the WEP/WPA security on that wireless router
(as all responsible wireless router owners should!). I found that there are
no links to any wireless router setting websites that are congruent with the
screen shots from Linksys' own self help technical support site. I have had
to call Linksys several times to resolve this issue only to be placed on hold
for lengthy times (sometimes my call was dropped and I had to start over ....
how sad for such a large company to have such poorly trained phone
receptionists!), then be transferred (see previous comment about the phone
receptionists) to a supposed supervisor, only to finally be transferred to
someone who tells me that the warranty has expired and wants me to pay $40.00
for the technical support to do the right thing that I want and need to do.
First, the device works fine (as evidenced by this e-mail that you have
just received)!
Second, why should I have to pay for doing the right thing?
Third, if I am going to be EXTORTED into buying a new wireless router so
that I can do the right thing and set up an encryption key for a secure
network, what on Gods' Green Earth makes anyone think that I would CHOOSE to
buy another Linksys product when ALL that I have ever received from them is a
functional wireless router (yes, even after seven whole years) and the
crappiest Customer Service/Technical Support I have ever had the displeasure
to encounter!
I shall copy this letter and try to find as many Chat Rooms as possible in
order to spread the word of ALL that I have gone through with the Chain of
Command at the Linksys phone center, well above and beyond what any
reasonable person should expect to go through, and still have NO RELIEF
concerning my singular issue with their product and its capabilities that I
SHOULD be able to enjoy as the owner of said product! What has happend to
"The Customer Is Always Right" Customer Service mantra (I can't say "In
America" because the call was handled in India)? Is the Customer, the ones
that makes the company what it is through the purchase of products, so
worthless to the company that they can just be treated with abject contempt
and scorn? Is the Customer to thus be trampled underfoot? Are we paying to
be so abused? I, for one (yes, one, the beginning of all), shall NOT be
treated in such manner, and CERTAINLY shall NOT PAY to be treated as such!
In this world of expanding technologies, it shall be those with the
GREATEST Customer Appeal that shall continue to be found worthwile in the
publics' eyes (and pocketbooks) and shall grow to meet the demands of a
growing world - ESPECIALLY in the Electronics Department!
It is now my strongest desire that the Linksys Corporation suffers
irreparable damage and goes out of business for their Crappy Customer
Service! I can only hope that I reach enough people around the world to bring
this desire true!

smlunatick said:
On Sep 3, 4:42 pm, John Wunderlich <[email protected]> wrote:
m:

I cloned the MAC address so it has the same MAC as the computer's
network card. I also power cycled the modem, and finally unplugged
the linux box, set the XP box's address to match that of the Linux
box (along with pointing the gateway to the router's LAN side
address 192.168.1.1) but still no go.
I really appreciate the help guys, but I am ready to throw this
damn computer out the window at this point ... :-(

Strange symptoms!
From what I've read, I'm more inclined to think that it is a router
problem than a computer problem. Have you tried connecting another
computer to your internal network in place of the one you're having
problems with?
Yup, took the working Linux computer and connected it to the same port
Have you tried connecting your computer to a friend's

It's kind of a big desktop -- I think I'll save lugging it to a
friend's as a really
really last step, but I'm getting desperate :-(
Have you tried downloading and installing the latest firmware upgrade
to your router fromLinksys? According to the website, the latest
version is 4.9.8101 dated 5/14/2008
You're thinking of v1 -- I have the 160N v2 -- there are no firmware
updates
as of this date for this version.
In the Advanced Routing router configuration section, NAT should be
enabled... Have you try resetting to Factory Defaults on the router
(located on the Advanced / Administration settings page)?
Yup, tried this step.
Try unplugging from the wall (removing power) from all equipment
(modem, router) and disconnect all devices from the router except the
modem (the Modem is plugged into the WAN/Internet port, I hope). Then
plug in the modem first, wait half a minute, then the router, then try
plugging in your computer (only) into the router.
Still no go.
HTH,
John- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -

Since I've only had the router for a week, I decided that I was
through. I went and got a D-Link N Router and surprise, surprise it
connected with no problem. Thanks anyways guys -- pretty sure
something was buggy about the Linksys but the support people didn't
want to admit it. Anyways I'm happily surfing now.

Thanks again -- I love usenet!!!

Any products can have some "lemons" pass during the production run.
 
P

Phil

I am writing this letter to ALL Wireless Router manufacturers.
I have a Linksys Wireless Router Model:BEFW11S4. It is 7 years (yes, count
them, all of seven little years) old. I have visited the Linksys website
numerous times trying to set up the WEP/WPA security on that wireless router
(as all responsible wireless router owners should!). I found that there are
no links to any wireless router setting websites that are congruent with the
screen shots from Linksys' own self help technical support site. I have had
to call Linksys several times to resolve this issue only to be placed on hold
for lengthy times (sometimes my call was dropped and I had to start over ....
how sad for such a large company to have such poorly trained phone
receptionists!), then be transferred (see previous comment about the phone
receptionists) to a supposed supervisor, only to finally be transferred to
someone who tells me that the warranty has expired and wants me to pay $40.00
for the technical support to do the right thing that I want and need to do.
First, the device works fine (as evidenced by this e-mail that you have
just received)!
Second, why should I have to pay for doing the right thing?
Third, if I am going to be EXTORTED into buying a new wireless router so
that I can do the right thing and set up an encryption key for a secure
network, what on Gods' Green Earth makes anyone think that I would CHOOSE to
buy another Linksys product when ALL that I have ever received from them is a
functional wireless router (yes, even after seven whole years) and the
crappiest Customer Service/Technical Support I have ever had the displeasure
to encounter!
I shall copy this letter and try to find as many Chat Rooms as possible in
order to spread the word of ALL that I have gone through with the Chain of
Command at the Linksys phone center, well above and beyond what any
reasonable person should expect to go through, and still have NO RELIEF
concerning my singular issue with their product and its capabilities that I
SHOULD be able to enjoy as the owner of said product! What has happend to
"The Customer Is Always Right" Customer Service mantra (I can't say "In
America" because the call was handled in India)? Is the Customer, the ones
that makes the company what it is through the purchase of products, so
worthless to the company that they can just be treated with abject contempt
and scorn? Is the Customer to thus be trampled underfoot? Are we paying to
be so abused? I, for one (yes, one, the beginning of all), shall NOT be
treated in such manner, and CERTAINLY shall NOT PAY to be treated as such!
In this world of expanding technologies, it shall be those with the
GREATEST Customer Appeal that shall continue to be found worthwile in the
publics' eyes (and pocketbooks) and shall grow to meet the demands of a
growing world - ESPECIALLY in the Electronics Department!
It is now my strongest desire that the Linksys Corporation suffers
irreparable damage and goes out of business for their Crappy Customer
Service! I can only hope that I reach enough people around the world to bring
this desire true!
 

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