Cant boot from scsi after setup of SBS2003

[Tony Girgenti]

Hello,

I have a Dell Diemnsion XPS R450, 384meg RAM, Adaptec 39160 SCSI, Seagate
SX118202LS 18 gig.

After running setup of SBS2003, system goes to reboot but it just hangs
after display of the SCSI banner. I boot from CD to get setup started and i
can boot from floppy, but if i take out floppy and cd, it never boots from
scsi hard drive.

I downloaded latest flash bios from dell.

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Tony

 

[Dave Patrick]

You may need to boot the Windows 2003 CD-Rom. Then *F6* very early and very
important (at setup is inspecting your system) in the setup to prevent drive
controller detection, and select S to specify additional drivers. Then later
you'll be prompted to insert the manufacturer supplied Windows 2003 driver
for your scsi controller in drive "A"

If you wait and then S to specify additional drivers, then it may be too
late as Windows 2003 Setup at this point may have already assigned the
resources your drive's controller is wanting to use.

When you get to the point, delete the existing NTFS and or other partitions
found. After you delete the partition(s) abort the install, then again
restart the pc booting the CD-Rom to avoid unexpected drive letter
assignments with your new install.

You may also need to tell your system and or controller bios what device to
boot from.

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:
| Hello,
|
| I have a Dell Diemnsion XPS R450, 384meg RAM, Adaptec 39160 SCSI, Seagate
| SX118202LS 18 gig.
|
| After running setup of SBS2003, system goes to reboot but it just hangs
| after display of the SCSI banner. I boot from CD to get setup started and
i
| can boot from floppy, but if i take out floppy and cd, it never boots from
| scsi hard drive.
|
| I downloaded latest flash bios from dell.
|
| Any help would be greatly appreciated.
|
| Tony
|
|

 

[Tony Girgenti]

Hi Dave. Thanks for your reply.

I tried your procedure and it did not help. Still doing the same thing.
I did tell the bios to boot from the scsi hard drive.

Any other suggestions ?

Thanks again,
Tony

 

[Dave Patrick]

Are you telling us that when the system bios loads the controller bios it
hangs? If so it may be a hardware configuration problem or the hardware may
have failed. If not then tell us more.

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:
| Hi Dave. Thanks for your reply.
|
| I tried your procedure and it did not help. Still doing the same thing.
| I did tell the bios to boot from the scsi hard drive.
|
| Any other suggestions ?
|
| Thanks again,
| Tony

 

[Tony Girgenti]

I'm not putting it in those words, but that sounds right.
I'm not sure of what else i can tell you. It's a 39160 with an ultra160
cable attached to seagate sx118202ls. At the time of sbs setup, all ide
drives are disconnected except the CD. It also has an Intel pro1000MT in
another pci slot. The phoenix bios was just updated.

What else can i tell you ?

 

[Dave Patrick]

You may also want to verify that the scsi bus is correctly terminated, that
the drive jumpers are correct, that no duplicate drive ID's exist, and that
a boot device has been set in controller bios.


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:
| I'm not putting it in those words, but that sounds right.
| I'm not sure of what else i can tell you. It's a 39160 with an ultra160
| cable attached to seagate sx118202ls. At the time of sbs setup, all ide
| drives are disconnected except the CD. It also has an Intel pro1000MT in
| another pci slot. The phoenix bios was just updated.
|
| What else can i tell you ?

 

[Tony Girgenti]

Also, as it is starting up, the Adaptec scsi information displayed show the
hard drive on the "A" channel with the correct seagate disk as ID 0. Then
it just leaves a blinking cursor in upper left corner of black screen, the
activity light on the seagate stays on constantly, but nothing ever happens.

 

[Dave Patrick]

See what controller bios has to say about it.

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Dave Patrick ....Please no email replies - reply in newsgroup.
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Microsoft MVP [Windows]
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:
| Also, as it is starting up, the Adaptec scsi information displayed show
the
| hard drive on the "A" channel with the correct seagate disk as ID 0. Then
| it just leaves a blinking cursor in upper left corner of black screen, the
| activity light on the seagate stays on constantly, but nothing ever
happens.

 

[Jim Behning]

What happens when you use a new scsi cable with a new terminator? When
you press ctrl A the Adaptec utility opens up ok? When you remove the
Adaptec controller card the computer seems to boot up ok to a floppy?

See what controller bios has to say about it.

--
Regards,

Dave Patrick ....Please no email replies - reply in newsgroup.
Microsoft Certified Professional
Microsoft MVP [Windows]
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:
| Also, as it is starting up, the Adaptec scsi information displayed show
the
| hard drive on the "A" channel with the correct seagate disk as ID 0. Then
| it just leaves a blinking cursor in upper left corner of black screen, the
| activity light on the seagate stays on constantly, but nothing ever
happens.

Jim B. SBS MVP
I don't have much to say but it can be found here
http://msmvps.com/bgb/

 

[Jan Pasterkamp]

Hi Tony,

I once ran into the same problem.

I had to Update the Harddisk and tried it the 'lazy' way: ghosting the small
Harddisk to the Large Harddisk. After the Ghost the new large Disk 'Looked'
perfect and I transferred the new Harddisk to the old Server.

It did not Boot, but when I started from CD and checked the Partition, it
all "looked" in order. Active partition etc. was OK.

Several hours later I decided to delete the partition, create a new
partition and format it. Rebuild the whole SBS2000 and as a miracle it all
worked PERFECT !

 

[Guest]

Hi,

As you probably know, the Adaptec 39160 is a two-channel SCSI controller,
capable of handling up to 32 SCSI devices, and as such it consumes twice the
system resources as its smaller "brother" - Adaptec 29160.

Thus you may reconsider if your overall hardware setup absolutely requires
the 39160; if not, then I suggest that you replace it with Adaptec 29160 or
even 29160LP SCSI controller. This may enable your system to boot more
readily.

Also, you may find that moving the SCSI controller to a different PCI slot
(if available) may be all that is needed to boot. Some BIOS's are very strict
in requiring SCSI controller to be installed in "PCI slot no. 1" ( Bus 0) in
order to be able to boot from its SCSI drive. Things may be complicated by
the dual--channel nature of the 39160 but I am not sure of this.

 

[Tony Girgenti]

Hi Jim,

I don't have another cable to try, but i will get one.

Yes, when i use ctrl-A, adaptec utility opens up ok and i can do any of the
utilities.
Yes, i can boot up to floppy or ide hard drive ok.

Thanks,
Tony

What happens when you use a new scsi cable with a new terminator? When
you press ctrl A the Adaptec utility opens up ok? When you remove the
Adaptec controller card the computer seems to boot up ok to a floppy?

See what controller bios has to say about it.

--
Regards,

Dave Patrick ....Please no email replies - reply in newsgroup.
Microsoft Certified Professional
Microsoft MVP [Windows]
http://www.microsoft.com/protect

:
| Also, as it is starting up, the Adaptec scsi information displayed show
the
| hard drive on the "A" channel with the correct seagate disk as ID 0.
Then
| it just leaves a blinking cursor in upper left corner of black screen,
the
| activity light on the seagate stays on constantly, but nothing ever
happens.

Jim B. SBS MVP
I don't have much to say but it can be found here
http://msmvps.com/bgb/

 

[Jim Behning]

I would be calling Adaptec now. I would also look to make sure the
adapter is set to issue the command that says it is a bootable device.
Are you saying that with the scsi controller removed the computer
works ok but gets hung when the controller is in place?

The F6 is important. I do vaguely recall that I did an install where
everything appeared to install with native drivers ok but it would not
boot. When I tried again with the F6 key and forced the install to use
my drivers the install worked fine.

Hi Jim,

I don't have another cable to try, but i will get one.

Yes, when i use ctrl-A, adaptec utility opens up ok and i can do any of the
utilities.
Yes, i can boot up to floppy or ide hard drive ok.

Thanks,
Tony

What happens when you use a new scsi cable with a new terminator? When
you press ctrl A the Adaptec utility opens up ok? When you remove the
Adaptec controller card the computer seems to boot up ok to a floppy?

See what controller bios has to say about it.

--
Regards,

Dave Patrick ....Please no email replies - reply in newsgroup.
Microsoft Certified Professional
Microsoft MVP [Windows]
http://www.microsoft.com/protect

:
| Also, as it is starting up, the Adaptec scsi information displayed show
the
| hard drive on the "A" channel with the correct seagate disk as ID 0.
Then
| it just leaves a blinking cursor in upper left corner of black screen,
the
| activity light on the seagate stays on constantly, but nothing ever
happens.

Jim B. SBS MVP
I don't have much to say but it can be found here
http://msmvps.com/bgb/

Jim B. SBS MVP
I don't have much to say but it can be found here
http://msmvps.com/bgb/