Can't boot clone after Paragon Drive Copy 11 Pro

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BillW50

I used to have dualboot XP and Windows 7. I got rid of Windows 7. I had
to FIXMBR and FIXBOOT to get XP booting once again. Everything works fine.

Although Paragon thinks it is clever and somehow believes Windows 7 is
still there. As I get the Windows 7 Boot Manager popping up on the clone
looking for boot files that don't exists.

I can fix this again by FIXMBR and FIXBOOT on the clone, but what do I
need to do to make Paragon to believe this is a XP boot drive and not a
Windows 7 boot drive?
 
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Peter Foldes

Bill

Have you checked the BOOT.INI to see if the Win 7 boot sequence resides there. If it
does remove it and your issue should be solved. Let us know

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BillW50

Bill

Have you checked the BOOT.INI to see if the Win 7 boot sequence resides
there. If it does remove it and your issue should be solved. Let us know

My idea is there is something that is tipping Paragon off that it thinks
it is doing me a favor by removing the XP MBR and making it bootable by
BCD. And I was thinking maybe there is a flag or something in the
partition table that Paragon is looking at or something.

Checking BOOT.INI once again and it is a perfectly normal BOOT.INI for a
single XP boot system. But hey, here is something in the remarks section
which states:

;Warning: Boot.ini is used on Windows XP and earlier operating systems.
;Warning: Use BCDEDIT.exe to modify Windows Vista boot options.

Say you don't think Paragon is reading this and thinks that Windows 7 is
installed do you? Paragon creates log files and all of them say
something like this one:

;Date is 03/24/11, Time is 09:16:47
;The internal version of BioNtDll is 10.0.16.12846 (Jan 28 2011)
;The Windows version is 6.1.7600 (Microsoft Windows 7)

I wonder where it is getting this idea from?
 
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Peter Foldes

Bill

I have no idea or knowledge deleting a Win7 in a dual boot situation. Although I
have experience and a lot of it deleting Vista partition with an dual boot XP.

Read the following on what I say and see if you can apply it to Win 7 substituting
Windows 7 as Vista and watch the letters as shown for the command prompt. Let me
know what happens. The below is set as instruction on my help file and did not
bother switching Vista for Win 7



1. Delete the Vista OS entirely by deleting its Windows folder, including
that entire folder tree. Just boot into Win7, make sure you know which
drive Vista's OS is on. If Win7 sees it as Drive V:, then browse to Drive
V: in Windows Explorer in Win7 and Delete that V:\Windows folder. That's
all it takes to get rid of any OS other than the one currently running. And
no OS that I know of will delete ITS OWN \Windows folder, because that would
be like committing suicide.

2. To clean up the opening menu and eliminate Vista, you can edit the BCD
(Boot Configuration Data) with BCDEdit.exe (or one of several third-party
apps, like EasyBCD), but that is not strictly required. It's just neater.
If Vista is not there (see step 1) then it can't be booted, even if you
choose it from the menu.

If you are comfy at the Command Prompt, you can do step 1 with the Remove
Directory (rd or rmdir) command:
rd v:\windows

It will balk, informing you that the folder is not empty. Then simply add
the /s switch:
rd v:\windows /s

After you confirm that, Yes, you really want to do this, it will delete the
entire folder tree, including the thousands of files, under V:\Windows,
which wipes out the OS in that partition.

Just remember that you can't delete any OS while running that OS, so you'll
have to be in Win7 to delete Vista (or vice versa), and it is NOT easy to
delete the wrong one.

Or, if there's nothing on that partition that you want to keep, just use
Disk Management to reformat it - or delete the partition. Then you can
extend the Win7 partition to use that space, or create a new partition
there.
Has any of you done what I am trying to do here?

Yes, I've been multi-booting for a dozen years and have done this many
times, especially when installing a newer build of Vista or Win7 during beta
testing. Step 1: Delete the old OS's \Windows folder. Step 2: Clean up
the opening menu. Step 3: No step 3; we're done. ;<)


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BillW50

Bill

I have no idea or knowledge deleting a Win7 in a dual boot situation.
Although I have experience and a lot of it deleting Vista partition with
an dual boot XP.

Read the following on what I say and see if you can apply it to Win 7
substituting Windows 7 as Vista and watch the letters as shown for the
command prompt. Let me know what happens. The below is set as
instruction on my help file and did not bother switching Vista for Win 7

Thank you very much Peter. Yes I did all of that. I did leave the Boot
folder in the XP partition since it was dead in the water after a new
MBR and a FIXBOOT.

But I decided that I would attack this problem once again today and I
got rid of that too. XP runs just fine and boots like any other XP. And
I just tried cloning with Acronis True Image and it is just like the
original.

But Paragon feels the need to interfere and to fix clone copies so they
boot ok. Well nothing wrong with that except it thinks Windows 7 is
still there (and knows the exact Windows 7 version that was there no
less) and tries to fix it.
 
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Peter Foldes

Glad to hear it Bill.

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