Can USB Web Cameras be used on Movie Maker under Vista

[Guest]

I have some USB web cameras, and they can work properly on movie maker under
XP SP2, but when I connect it to Vista ( Beta 2 ) , and try to import the
video from movie maker, an error message will occur as below.
"Import Video could not find a compatible Digital Video Device. Verify that
the Digital Video Device is properly connected and turned on."

Is it caused by the movie maker of Vista?

 

[decoder]

I have some USB web cameras, and they can work properly on movie maker
under
XP SP2, but when I connect it to Vista ( Beta 2 ) , and try to import the
video from movie maker, an error message will occur as below.
"Import Video could not find a compatible Digital Video Device. Verify
that
the Digital Video Device is properly connected and turned on."

Is it caused by the movie maker of Vista?

It is looking for a "Digital Video" device - DV, it won't recognise
any device as such, connected via USB.
Forgive me for adding this subjective view, but are you aware of
exactly the situation you may find yourself in by running any beta
software, let alone Vista? I have to add that, your asking above
question causes me to doubt you are aware of the ramifications
of running beta software?

 

[Wojo [MVP]]

It is looking for a "Digital Video" device - DV, it won't recognise
any device as such, connected via USB.
Forgive me for adding this subjective view, but are you aware of
exactly the situation you may find yourself in by running any beta
software, let alone Vista? I have to add that, your asking above
question causes me to doubt you are aware of the ramifications
of running beta software?

And to add to that Vista requires many of your hardware devices to have new
drivers and there are not all that many out there so you may be out of luck
with this one. I am running a Vista Beta on my test machine and it took me
days just to get up and running with all the drivers etc...

Also there are newsgroups available as well as the Feedback link/program
installed with the Vista Beta that are there specifically for Vista
questions.
--
Wojo
MVP - Windows Digital Media

Wojo's Web: www.wojos-web.co.nr
Also please visit:
www.remember-christopher.dostweb.com/christopher

 

[Guest]

Actually my Web Camera is a USB 2.0 UVC device (USB Video Class), and it uses
OS inbox driver to render the stream. From the help menu of movie maker on
Vista ( beta 2 ), it mentioned " If you has a DV camera that supports
streaming over USB ( also called a USB Video Class [UVC] camera ), you can
connect the video camera to your computer by using a USB 2.0 connection"
After I did some experiments, I found UVC devices cannot work with movie
maker of Vista, and I suppose what Mr. Decoder or Ms. Decoder mentioned is
right; It is looking for a "Digital Video" device - DV, it won't recognise
any device as such, connected via USB. Anyone has furthur suggestions?

 

[Wojo [MVP]]

Have you tried any other hardware through the USB 2 connection since
installing Vista?
I only ask because it took me a while on my test box to get the USB driver
itself working.
-Wojo

Actually my Web Camera is a USB 2.0 UVC device (USB Video Class), and it
uses
OS inbox driver to render the stream. From the help menu of movie maker on
Vista ( beta 2 ), it mentioned " If you has a DV camera that supports
streaming over USB ( also called a USB Video Class [UVC] camera ), you can
connect the video camera to your computer by using a USB 2.0 connection"
After I did some experiments, I found UVC devices cannot work with movie
maker of Vista, and I suppose what Mr. Decoder or Ms. Decoder mentioned is
right; It is looking for a "Digital Video" device - DV, it won't recognise
any device as such, connected via USB. Anyone has furthur suggestions?

And to add to that Vista requires many of your hardware devices to have
new
drivers and there are not all that many out there so you may be out of
luck
with this one. I am running a Vista Beta on my test machine and it took
me
days just to get up and running with all the drivers etc...

Also there are newsgroups available as well as the Feedback link/program
installed with the Vista Beta that are there specifically for Vista
questions.
--
Wojo
MVP - Windows Digital Media

Wojo's Web: www.wojos-web.co.nr
Also please visit:
www.remember-christopher.dostweb.com/christopher

 

[Guest]

All I have are UVC cameras and pen drives, and they work properly on Vista
Beta 2.

Have you tried any other hardware through the USB 2 connection since
installing Vista?
I only ask because it took me a while on my test box to get the USB driver
itself working.
-Wojo

Actually my Web Camera is a USB 2.0 UVC device (USB Video Class), and it
uses
OS inbox driver to render the stream. From the help menu of movie maker on
Vista ( beta 2 ), it mentioned " If you has a DV camera that supports
streaming over USB ( also called a USB Video Class [UVC] camera ), you can
connect the video camera to your computer by using a USB 2.0 connection"
After I did some experiments, I found UVC devices cannot work with movie
maker of Vista, and I suppose what Mr. Decoder or Ms. Decoder mentioned is
right; It is looking for a "Digital Video" device - DV, it won't recognise
any device as such, connected via USB. Anyone has furthur suggestions?

I have some USB web cameras, and they can work properly on movie maker
under
XP SP2, but when I connect it to Vista ( Beta 2 ) , and try to import
the
video from movie maker, an error message will occur as below.
"Import Video could not find a compatible Digital Video Device. Verify
that
the Digital Video Device is properly connected and turned on."

Is it caused by the movie maker of Vista?


It is looking for a "Digital Video" device - DV, it won't recognise
any device as such, connected via USB.
Forgive me for adding this subjective view, but are you aware of
exactly the situation you may find yourself in by running any beta
software, let alone Vista? I have to add that, your asking above
question causes me to doubt you are aware of the ramifications
of running beta software?


And to add to that Vista requires many of your hardware devices to have
new
drivers and there are not all that many out there so you may be out of
luck
with this one. I am running a Vista Beta on my test machine and it took
me
days just to get up and running with all the drivers etc...

Also there are newsgroups available as well as the Feedback link/program
installed with the Vista Beta that are there specifically for Vista
questions.
--
Wojo
MVP - Windows Digital Media

Wojo's Web: www.wojos-web.co.nr
Also please visit:
www.remember-christopher.dostweb.com/christopher

 

[decoder]

All I have are UVC cameras and pen drives, and they work properly on Vista
Beta 2.

You're in beta world with vista, so you're on your own!

Follow links at top of page on following:
http://www.microsoft.com/whdc/device/stream/vidcap/DV_AppCompat.mspx

Read through, you will require Framework tools,
The Device installation tools,
Also there is a UVC diagnostic tool.
http://www.microsoft.com/whdc/winhec/papers04.mspx

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/914962/en-us?spid=8599

And the above is all there is re UVC and Vista (Beta) compatibilty.

 

[SaxenKo]

LoFengChang 寫é“：

All I have are UVC cameras and pen drives, and they work properly on Vista
Beta 2.

I think it is MovieMaker's issue. I install the DDK sample "TestCam" in
vista. It works fine with Amcap and graphedit. But it just can not work
on MovieMaker. The error message is the same. But I use Sony DV to
test, it works fine. So I don't know how the MovieMaker select device.

 

[decoder]

LoFengChang ??:

All I have are UVC cameras and pen drives, and they work properly on Vista
Beta 2.

I think it is MovieMaker's issue. I install the DDK sample "TestCam" in
vista. It works fine with Amcap and graphedit. But it just can not work
on MovieMaker. The error message is the same. But I use Sony DV to
test, it works fine. So I don't know how the MovieMaker select device.

Hi
But this group is XP and MM, the issues are with Vista, being beta.
Beta software cannot be expected to perform flawlessly, compatibilty
is a major issue too. The whole point of beta versions is to find the
problems and feedback to MS etc.
The upshot of indulging in beta testing is a world of software/hardware
incompatibilty problems to be sorted out, and a non-ending cycle of
formating and reinstalling etc.

 

[Wojo [MVP]]

LoFengChang ??:


I think it is MovieMaker's issue. I install the DDK sample "TestCam" in
vista. It works fine with Amcap and graphedit. But it just can not work
on MovieMaker. The error message is the same. But I use Sony DV to
test, it works fine. So I don't know how the MovieMaker select device.

Hi
But this group is XP and MM, the issues are with Vista, being beta.
Beta software cannot be expected to perform flawlessly, compatibilty
is a major issue too. The whole point of beta versions is to find the
problems and feedback to MS etc.
The upshot of indulging in beta testing is a world of software/hardware
incompatibilty problems to be sorted out, and a non-ending cycle of
formating and reinstalling etc.

awww but that's the FUN part too!
Problem solving, solutions, more problem solving, I love it!
-Wojo

 

[decoder]

awww but that's the FUN part too!
Problem solving, solutions, more problem solving, I love it!
-Wojo

But thats the nub.........YOU (Wojo) are more than capable,
and You Wojo, are fully conversaint with the implications of
downloading/installing "beta" software............................
Though fully understood why someone of your standing Wojo,
would enjoy the intracacies of "beta" testing, it baffles me as to
why any others would be tempted to become involved in the
problem-solving aspect of *beta* software, let alone a convoluted
future-proofed OS such as Vista? This is the next mega-step in
Windows Operating systems, - The "future", and though to someone
such as yourself Wojo, it's obviously a challenge, and your feedback
adds to it's evolvement, but why do "everyday windows users"
latch onto such beta software without realising the issues involved?
You have proved you can cope, and it's "FUN" to you, and I like to
think that even I could at least weave my way through it, but why do
not others realise what *Beta* involves? Just One example.......
Symentec are a major player in the anti-virus arena, and their Nortons
applications are top flight, fully functioning security applications, But...
With MS Windows Vista *BETA*, I've noted that both Nortons AV 2004
and 2005 are more or less actively compliant with Vista Beta, but not so
their advanced 2006 version? It has to be conceded that until Symentec
deal with this issue, anyone who opts for the *Beta* version of Vista
and than relies on 2006 Nortons, will have serious compatibilty issues?
But many downloaders of *Beta* Vista do not seem to do their homework
concerning this new OS?
That all aside, keep up the good work Wojo, you're a star!

 

[Wojo [MVP]]

But thats the nub.........YOU (Wojo) are more than capable,
and You Wojo, are fully conversaint with the implications of
downloading/installing "beta" software............................
Though fully understood why someone of your standing Wojo,
would enjoy the intracacies of "beta" testing, it baffles me as to
why any others would be tempted to become involved in the
problem-solving aspect of *beta* software, let alone a convoluted
future-proofed OS such as Vista? This is the next mega-step in
Windows Operating systems, - The "future", and though to someone
such as yourself Wojo, it's obviously a challenge, and your feedback
adds to it's evolvement, but why do "everyday windows users"
latch onto such beta software without realising the issues involved?
You have proved you can cope, and it's "FUN" to you, and I like to
think that even I could at least weave my way through it, but why do
not others realise what *Beta* involves? Just One example.......
Symentec are a major player in the anti-virus arena, and their Nortons
applications are top flight, fully functioning security applications,
But...
With MS Windows Vista *BETA*, I've noted that both Nortons AV 2004
and 2005 are more or less actively compliant with Vista Beta, but not so
their advanced 2006 version? It has to be conceded that until Symentec
deal with this issue, anyone who opts for the *Beta* version of Vista
and than relies on 2006 Nortons, will have serious compatibilty issues?
But many downloaders of *Beta* Vista do not seem to do their homework
concerning this new OS?
That all aside, keep up the good work Wojo, you're a star!

I'm blushing

No honestly I do agree with you on this. In fact I was just saying pretty
much the same thing in a Vista newsgroup.
Beta testing programs is one thing but Beta testing an OS is something
completely different.
If you don't have the computer skills needed for such a task then why
undertake it?
Reading the Vista NG's it amazes me. Some people are installing the Vista
Beta on their productivity machines and boxes in the office!
This makes no sense what-so-ever.
-Wojo