Can I install XP on another computer?

[Jay]

I have a copy of XP that came with a machine I purchased
last year and threw in the dumpster yesterday. Now that
the original machine is gone, can I install this copy on
another machine here in the office?

 

[purplehaz]

No. Oem windows xp versions are not transferable to another
computer/motherboard. This is one reason oem is cheaper. You'll need to
purchase xp for the other machine.

 

[Bob S]

No , you can't by the EULA, but send it to me and I'll use
it on one of mine

 

[Tim Slattery]

I have a copy of XP that came with a machine I purchased
last year and threw in the dumpster yesterday. Now that
the original machine is gone, can I install this copy on
another machine here in the office?

No. OEM systems are licensed *only* for the machine they were
originally installed on. Even if that hardware ceases to exist, the
software cannot be used on any other machine. (That's one reason OEM
versions are significantly cheaper than retail versions!)

 

[The Unknown P]

If I were you I would attempt to install with the disk and
when it gets to the activation take the five to ten
minutes to use the phone option and see what MS says. I
bet they give you another license code. There are of
course key gens out there for things like this but then
most will tell you that obtaining and using 48062-
ALL_XP_SUITE_KEYGEN is illegal.Keep smiling.

 

[Gordon Burgess-Parker]

No. Oem windows xp versions are not transferable to another
computer/motherboard. This is one reason oem is cheaper. You'll need
to purchase xp for the other machine.

seeing as you can now buy OEM software with a mouse or a cable, why not keep
the keyboard? That's part of the old machine.....

 

[Michael Stevens]

seeing as you can now buy OEM software with a mouse or a cable, why
not keep the keyboard? That's part of the old machine.....

Click on or copy and paste the link below into your web browser address box.
OEM clarification.
http://michaelstevenstech.com/oemeula.htm

 

[purplehaz]

seeing as you can now buy OEM software with a mouse or a cable, why not keep
the keyboard? That's part of the old machine.....

When you install an oem version of xp it gets tied to the original
computer/motherboard. In ms eyes the computer is the motherboard. Everything
else is a peripheral. The computer is not the tower the graphics card, the
sound card, hard drive, keyboard, mouse,etc... it is the motherboard. You
have to sell/buy oem xp software with a piece of hardware, but that has
nothing to with installing it.

 

[Gordon Burgess-Parker]

Click on or copy and paste the link below into your web browser
address box. OEM clarification.
http://michaelstevenstech.com/oemeula.htm

So how come you can legally purchase an OEM copy of Windows with say a mouse
or a printer cable? Does that mean that the OEM copy must ALWAYS be attached
to that mouse?

 

[purplehaz]

So how come you can legally purchase an OEM copy of Windows with say a mouse
or a printer cable? Does that mean that the OEM copy must ALWAYS be attached
to that mouse?

That's just to qualify the oem software for sale as OEM(original equipment
manufacturer). If it's not sold with hardware it's not oem. Once installed
the eula kicks in and says oem versions cant be transfered to another
computer/motherboard. The previous sale of hardware and the oem software is
irrelavent for installing the software. One requirement is for selling the
software the other is for installing it.

 

[Michael Stevens]

That's just to qualify the oem software for sale as OEM(original
equipment manufacturer). If it's not sold with hardware it's not oem.
Once installed the eula kicks in and says oem versions cant be
transfered to another computer/motherboard. The previous sale of
hardware and the oem software is irrelavent for installing the
software. One requirement is for selling the software the other is
for installing it.

purplehaz,
Very well explained.

 

[purplehaz]

purplehaz,
Very well explained.
--

Thanks, I appreciate that, especially coming from an mvp. I was hoping I
explained it right. )

 

[Gordon Burgess-Parker]

purplehaz,
Very well explained.

So MS has decided that although you can buy an OEM copy of Windows XP with a
mouse or printer cable (both of which do NOT equate to a computer) you
cannot transfer the software to another computer after you have installed it
even after removing it from the computer it was first installed on.
Well I have NEVER heard of anything so pathetically ridiculous.
Does MS realise how STUPID that makes them look?
Why then did they decide that you don't even have to buy a computer to GET
an OEM copy?
Someone in their Marketing Dept needs to be fired pretty quickly I would
say,.

 

[Michael Stevens]

So MS has decided that although you can buy an OEM copy of Windows XP
with a mouse or printer cable (both of which do NOT equate to a
computer) you cannot transfer the software to another computer after
you have installed it even after removing it from the computer it was
first installed on.

It is their product, so I guess they can decide how it can be sold and used.

Well I have NEVER heard of anything so pathetically ridiculous.
Does MS realise how STUPID that makes them look?

Depends on what side of the fence you are on.

Why then did they decide that you don't even have to buy a computer
to GET an OEM copy?

So people that don't need the support from MS and would prefer to save a few
bucks have the option to do so. The smart consumer will not purchase OEM to
install on obsolete or soon to be replaced equipment.

Someone in their Marketing Dept needs to be fired pretty quickly I
would say,.

Don't know why.
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[cimex]

Credit this to their inherent respect for the DIY mentality. They
acknowledge that there are two levels of user for their retail O/S. It would
be interesting to see the stats on unit sales of full retail, upgrade, and
OEM retail disks.

To require any hardware purchase at all, though, as you point out, is a
silly formality. How does "fulfilling" that requirement in any way influence
the ultimate use of the O/S? How would failure to comply with the
requirement work against the interests of MS?

 

[purplehaz]

So MS has decided that although you can buy an OEM copy of Windows XP with a
mouse or printer cable (both of which do NOT equate to a computer) you
cannot transfer the software to another computer after you have installed it
even after removing it from the computer it was first installed on.

You got it. At least this is all according to the eula. If the eula is not a
legal document then it doesn't matter and until someone takes them to court
its hard to say if it is or not so you be the judge.

Well I have NEVER heard of anything so pathetically ridiculous.
Does MS realise how STUPID that makes them look?

Actually if you think about it from a business point of view and from a
profit standpoint, its really a dam smart plan. Force people to buy the same
product more than once if you want them to use it on multiple computers or
if its oem force then to buy a full retail version if they get a new
computer or make them pay again if you buy another oem computer.(of couse we
know the ms doesn't force anyone to do anything, but you get my point). The
eula is what made ms billions of dollars.

Why then did they decide that you don't even have to buy a computer to GET
an OEM copy?

I believe because many people and oems complained about how oem version was
handled. They liked the cheaper oem price, but not the restrictions. Before
XP you could not buy an oem copy of windows with just a piece of hardware.
To get oem windows before xp you had to buy a full oem computer. MS actually
made the qualifications less when xp came out and said ok, you don't have to
buy a full computer, but you have to at least buy some hardware with it. I
think they did this so people could save a few dollars and buy the oem
version knowing the limitations its eula has. Why the hardware thing was
attached, I really don't know, but I suspect it has something to do with $$
and profit per sale for retailers selling the oem versions.

Someone in their Marketing Dept needs to be fired pretty quickly I would
say,.

If they fire them, I will surely hire them so I can make a ga-zillion
dollars too. From a business standpoint they actually should be applauded.

 

[Rob Schneider]

well stated!

 

[purplehaz]

Thanks. )

 

[Alex Nichol]

I have a copy of XP that came with a machine I purchased
last year and threw in the dumpster yesterday. Now that
the original machine is gone, can I install this copy on
another machine here in the office?

No - a copy that came installed on such a machine is considered part of
that machine, and is licensed solely for that (at reduced price). You
may not transfer it to any other

 

[Alex Nichol]

So MS has decided that although you can buy an OEM copy of Windows XP with a
mouse or printer cable (both of which do NOT equate to a computer) you
cannot transfer the software to another computer after you have installed it
even after removing it from the computer it was first installed on.
Well I have NEVER heard of anything so pathetically ridiculous.
Does MS realise how STUPID that makes them look?

That is the right you give up in exchange for getting a very substantial
discount on price..

IMO MS confuse things for themselves by allowing this purchase of OEM
with a hardware component at all - it only came in originally as a way
for getting a retail provision of Win95 OSR 2, which was only put out
in an OEM version. It would be better if there were an OEM one supplied
as a component of a new system, complete in the sense of needing no
additions (except a monitor) to be usable, and tied to that machine
though the motherboard; and a retail one with unrestricted transfer
rights.

It is not even as if the position is unambiguous - IMO the EULA as seen
and accepted by the customer, (and that is the only one he could be
bound by), does *not* say what MS and Michael interpret it as saying.
They put an interpretation based on discussions between OEMs and MS, but
the customer could not be held to this as he knows nothing of them.
However, taking it at literal meaning would put users in perhaps an even
worse situation, so perhaps it is better left as they interpret it.