Can a version of XP be tranferred from one machine to another?

[BobH]

If a machine dies, and I want to trash it, can I transfer
XP to another machine which is running win98?

I understand the licensing is one copy to one machine,
but can I do the above?

thanks,

bob

 

[Haus]

Hello
Yes you can as long as you have a retail version and like you said it can
not be on more then one working puter without another license (key code).
OEM versions which are factory delivered on restore disks can not be
transferred.

 

[Greg R]

Legally if xp is a retail version.
Oem version (You are not supposed too)

Also, Make sure 98 machine is capable of running xp.

Greg R

 

[Eric]

Have you got a proper Windows XP CD or a Recovery Disk
that restores Windows XP to the way it was when the
computer left the factory?

A Recovery Disk can only be installed on the computer it
came with.

If you have a valid XP CD, you can install it on any PC
you like so long as you only have one computer with it
installed on.

If you install it on more than one PC, you have to buy
additional licences.

You will have to activate it online or by telephoning
Microsoft.

Also, a computer running Windows 98 might require a BIOS
update to be able to run XP, but this might not be
necessary.

Eric,
http://www.pcbuyerbeware.co.uk/
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[Haus]

Hello TJF
That is why I put the part in there about Factory Restore disks.
I also have an OEM version that I purchased, installed, then a year later my
puter crapped out on me so I built another and installed it with no
problems, it would not let me do a repair install but it did let me do a
Clean install.

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Haus
Good Luck

Actually the part about the OEM versions not being transferrable is not

entirely true, it depends on the OEM. I have transferred my Dell OEm
version to another machine and reactivated it with no problems at all.

 

[Phil]

Not true. The oem does not matter. An oem version, is an oem version, no
matter who the oem is and akk oem version fall under the same EULA. If you
transfered your oem version and ms activated you, then you got lucky as the
EULA clearly states:
* Software as a Component of the Computer - Transfer. THIS
LICENSE MAY NOT BE SHARED,
TRANSFERRED TO OR USED CONCURRENTLY
ON DIFFERENT COMPUTERS. The SOFTWARE
is licensed with the HARDWARE as a single integrated
product and may only be used with the HARDWARE. If the
SOFTWARE is not accompanied by new HARDWARE, you may
not use the SOFTWARE. You may permanently transfer all
of your rights under this EULA only as part of a
permanent sale or transfer of the HARDWARE, provided
you retain no copies, if you transfer all of the SOFTWARE
(including all component parts, the media and printed
materials, any upgrades, this EULA and the Certificate
of Authenticity), and the recipient agrees to the terms
of this EULA. If the SOFTWARE is an upgrade, any
transfer must also include all prior versions of the
SOFTWARE.

 

[Phil]

Of course it's not illegal, there are no laws, but transferring an oem
version is in violation of the MS EULA. Doesn't matter what the "tech" at
dell told you. The eula clearly states the software is tied to the hardware
for ever:
* Software as a Component of the Computer - Transfer. THIS
LICENSE MAY NOT BE SHARED,
TRANSFERRED TO OR USED CONCURRENTLY
ON DIFFERENT COMPUTERS. The SOFTWARE
is licensed with the HARDWARE as a single integrated
product and may only be used with the HARDWARE. If the
SOFTWARE is not accompanied by new HARDWARE, you may
not use the SOFTWARE. You may permanently transfer all
of your rights under this EULA only as part of a
permanent sale or transfer of the HARDWARE, provided
you retain no copies, if you transfer all of the SOFTWARE
(including all component parts, the media and printed
materials, any upgrades, this EULA and the Certificate
of Authenticity), and the recipient agrees to the terms
of this EULA. If the SOFTWARE is an upgrade, any
transfer must also include all prior versions of the
SOFTWARE.

 

[Plato]

Actually the part about the OEM versions not being transferrable is not entirely true, it depends on the OEM. I have transferred my Dell OEm version to another machine and reactivated it with no problems at all.

Yes, there are always exceptions.

 

[Ken Blake, MVP]

In

Actually the part about the OEM versions not being transferrable is
not entirely true, it depends on the OEM. I have transferred my Dell
OEm version to another machine and reactivated it with no problems at
all.

Yes, it is entirely true. The rule (the OEM EULA) is that you may
not do this. You may have done it and gotten away with it, but
that doesn't change the fact that you were violating the rule.

Some people get away with robbing banks too. The rule is still
that you may not do this.

 

[Greg R]

Of course it's not illegal, there are no laws, but transferring an oem
version is in violation of the MS EULA. Doesn't matter what the "tech" at
dell told you. The eula clearly states the software is tied to the hardware
for ever:

The dell tech told the op. The disk are actual retail version of xp
with the dell logo on it. If that the case he can transfer it.

Greg R

snipped

 

[Phil]

The dell tech told the op. The disk are actual retail version of xp
with the dell logo on it. If that the case he can transfer it.

Greg R

Could be, but be careful. Is it a retail OEM version or a retail
full/upgrade version? Retail oem version cannot be transfered(you can buy
the oem version at retail stores). The dell I have at work comes with a real
retail OEM version xp cd with the dell logo on it. The product key is also
and oem product key. The key thing isn't if it's retail or not, it's whether
it's oem or not. Dell is an oem, I got an oem cd from dell, so I would think
they are oem versions, unless dell has changed somehting recently.

 

[Ken Blake, MVP]

In

The dell tech told the op. The disk are actual retail version of xp
with the dell logo on it. If that the case he can transfer it.

It's either a retail version or an OEM version; the OP can't have
it both ways. He said "It is not illegal though to transplant an
OEM version of XP."

Although you can quibble about the word "illegal," it *is*
against the terms of the EULA to move an OEM version from the
first computer it's installed on. I don't know for sure whether
this is an OEM verision or a retail one, but I've never seen or
heard of a retail CD with an OEM's logo on it.

If the Dell tech told the OP that, he was probably just wrong. It
sure wouldn't be the first time an OEM's tech was wrong. If I had
a nickel for every time an OEM tech told a customer something
wrong, I'd be a rich man.

 

[kurttrail]

In


Yes, it is entirely true. The rule (the OEM EULA) is that you may
not do this. You may have done it and gotten away with it, but
that doesn't change the fact that you were violating the rule.

Some people get away with robbing banks too. The rule is still
that you may not do this.

Bank robbery and an individual exercising their "fair use" rights to their
copy of software is like comparing idiots, like you, to Benjamin Franklin.

Bank Robbery is a criminal offense. At most, moving OEM XP to another
computer is a civil breech of contract, which would be yet another EULA term
that MS has no intention to ever try to enforce on private non-commercial &
anonymous individuals by legal means, by proving it in front of a real
judge.

MS EULA usage terms on individuals in the privacy of their homes, is nothing
but FUD, and MS's lack of due diligence, for over a decade, in legally
enforcing their EULA usage terms on private individuals are sufficient
grounds for a judge to rule against MS.

Whether it is "entirely true" or not can only be decided by a REAL judge,
but only if MS has the balls to prove it before a REAL judge, so TJF answer
is closer to the "TRUTH," both legally and in reality, than Ken and MS's
EULA FUD.

At least SCO has the balls to put it's licensing claims into the realm of
the courts to ultimately decide. Too bad for Ken & and the rest of the
MicroSycophants, MS and the rest of the BSA Trust, are just too chickensh*t
to do the same with post-sale anonymous "shrink-wrap license" software usage
terms on private non-commercial individuals!

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[kurttrail]

Of course it's not illegal, there are no laws, but transferring an oem
version is in violation of the MS EULA. Doesn't matter what the
"tech" at dell told you. The eula clearly states the software is tied
to the hardware for ever:
* Software as a Component of the Computer - Transfer. THIS
LICENSE MAY NOT BE SHARED,
TRANSFERRED TO OR USED CONCURRENTLY
ON DIFFERENT COMPUTERS. The SOFTWARE
is licensed with the HARDWARE as a single integrated
product and may only be used with the HARDWARE. If the
SOFTWARE is not accompanied by new HARDWARE, you may
not use the SOFTWARE. You may permanently transfer all
of your rights under this EULA only as part of a
permanent sale or transfer of the HARDWARE, provided
you retain no copies, if you transfer all of the SOFTWARE
(including all component parts, the media and printed
materials, any upgrades, this EULA and the Certificate
of Authenticity), and the recipient agrees to the terms
of this EULA. If the SOFTWARE is an upgrade, any
transfer must also include all prior versions of the
SOFTWARE.

And whether MS has the right to legally enforce this term on private
non-commerial individuals has never been determined. And an individual has
EVERY right under the law to "fairly use" the copies of copyrighted material
they buy, under some copyright owner is willing to prove otherwise. Until a
copyright owner is willing to to just that, us individuals can do what we
consider to be a "fair use" of our copies of copyrighted material in the
privacy of our own homes.

MS words are meaningless, unless MS is willing and able to prove them in a
court of law, just like SCO v. IBM. So whether it is a "violation of the MS
EULA" can't be decided by you or me or MS, only if MS has the balls to risk
losing in a court of law.

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[kurttrail]

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It's either a retail version or an OEM version; the OP can't have
it both ways. He said "It is not illegal though to transplant an
OEM version of XP."

Although you can quibble about the word "illegal," it *is*
against the terms of the EULA to move an OEM version from the
first computer it's installed on.

Are you a judge? Because only a judge can truly decide whether it is
against the terms of the EULA to move an OEM version from the first
computer it's installed on."

I don't know for sure whether
this is an OEM verision or a retail one, but I've never seen or
heard of a retail CD with an OEM's logo on it.

http://accessories.us.dell.com/sna/ProductDetail.aspx?c=us&l=en&cs=19&sku=458564-4&category_id=5571

Dell does sell retail copies of XP. Whether it has the Dell logo on it, is
still questionable.

If the Dell tech told the OP that, he was probably just wrong. It
sure wouldn't be the first time an OEM's tech was wrong. If I had
a nickel for every time an OEM tech told a customer something
wrong, I'd be a rich man.

Since MS doesn't support OEM XP, and refers all support back to the OEM, it
seems to me, MS has set a precedent for the OEMs to answer this support
query by TJF or the OP. It's not like MS will give OEM XP users an answer.

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[Bruce Chambers]

Greetings --

Assuming a retail license (OEM licenses are not transferable),
simply remove WinXP from the computer it is currently on, and install
it onto the new one. If it's been more than 120 days since you last
activated that specific Product Key, you'll most likely be able to
activate via the Internet without problem. If it's been less, you
might have to make a 5 minute phone call.

Here are the facts pertaining to activation:

Piracy Basics - Microsoft Product Activation
http://www.microsoft.com/piracy/basics/activation/

Windows Product Activation (WPA)
http://www.aumha.org/a/wpa.htm


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[Bruce Chambers]

Greetings --

Do you really think that a newsgroup hosted on a Microsoft server
is the right place to brag about pirating a Microsoft product? Or,
for that matter, is it wise to publicly announce that you cannot be
trusted to abide by the terms of any business contracts into which you
enter?

In plain English, what you've done may have been possible from a
technical standpoint, but it was very probably in violation of
contract law. Ask your attorney whether or not the Uniform Commercial
Code (U.S. Federal Law) applies in your locale.

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Actually the part about the OEM versions not being transferrable is

not entirely true, it depends on the OEM. I have transferred my Dell
OEm version to another machine and reactivated it with no problems at
all.

 

[Bruce Chambers]

Greetings --

Dell Tech Support "techs" can just barely spell "PC," and you're
trusting them for legal advice? I've a bridge I'd love to sell you.

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It is not illegal though to transplant an OEM version of XP. I

consulted with Dell on it before I went ahead with it and they said
the version I have may be installed in any way and on any system I
would like and that the disc they include with the machine is just a
normal retail version with a Dell logo slapped on it.

 

[kurttrail]

Greetings --

Do you really think that a newsgroup hosted on a Microsoft server
is the right place to brag about pirating a Microsoft product?

He was following the instructions of those legally responsible to support
his copy of software. MS DOES NOT SUPPORT OEM COPIES OF XP!

Or,
for that matter, is it wise to publicly announce that you cannot be
trusted to abide by the terms of any business contracts into which you
enter?

He is a business? When did he say that?

In plain English, what you've done may have been possible from a
technical standpoint, but it was very probably in violation of
contract law. Ask your attorney whether or not the Uniform Commercial
Code (U.S. Federal Law) applies in your locale.

It only applies when the licensor is willing to enforce its terms in court.
As MS has had over a decade of ignoring its legal obligation to act with due
diligence when it comes to trying to legally enforce its usage terms on
private non-commercial individuals.

MS = BS

Now there is a simple answer for ya, Bruce! ;-)

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[kurttrail]

Greetings --

Dell Tech Support "techs" can just barely spell "PC," and you're
trusting them for legal advice?

No, for support advise, since MS forces OEM users to seek ALL support from
the OEM. Do you often confuse the words "support" and "legal?"

I've a bridge I'd love to sell you.

Try eBay for getting rid of your worn out dentistry.

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