Cable modem issues in Windows XP??

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Since I built this new system last month, and started using Windows XP
Pro, my cable modem connection drops out periodically. I've been in
touch with the cable company who can find no problems, and also with
the motherboard manufacturer who couldn't find a problem. The drop out
occurs both with the onboard cable connection as well as a PCI fast
ethernet card. Is this a known issue with Windows XP Pro? Are there
tweaks or adjustments that need to be made? I never experienced this
problem before the new system and XP Pro. For the record, I have an
Asus P4C800 Deluxe board, Intel 3.2Ghz processor and 1Gb RAM. Thanks.
 
Update the firmware on the cable modem (perhaps replace the
old modem).


| Since I built this new system last month, and started
using Windows XP
| Pro, my cable modem connection drops out periodically.
I've been in
| touch with the cable company who can find no problems, and
also with
| the motherboard manufacturer who couldn't find a problem.
The drop out
| occurs both with the onboard cable connection as well as a
PCI fast
| ethernet card. Is this a known issue with Windows XP Pro?
Are there
| tweaks or adjustments that need to be made? I never
experienced this
| problem before the new system and XP Pro. For the record,
I have an
| Asus P4C800 Deluxe board, Intel 3.2Ghz processor and 1Gb
RAM. Thanks.
|
 
No, there are no known or common issues like this is xp. When this happens
are you losing sync on the modem an out or flashing cable light? Does the pc
light ever go out? Usually line drops and disconnects on a cable modem are
on the isp side. Possible that the modem is overheating, but most likely
they have a server or node or line going bad. Sure the isp says no problems
on there end, that what they're trained to say. I worked support for comcast
cable before and even when we knew there was a problem, we were not allowed
to say so. I have road runner cable now and about two years ago I had a
similar problem. Everyday the modem would lose sync and would not reconnect
for hours or days sometimes. The isp said there's no prob, but I knew
better. I demanded that they come out to my house and check the line, modem,
and nodes in the area. Sure enough they found a cable that needed replacing.
A day or so later it was fixed and all was well. Call your isp again and
have them come to your house and check it out. If you get a lazy tech and he
doesn't find anything, call again and have another come out. Make sure they
check your setup, your modem, do a line test inside and outside the house,
and check the nodes in the area.
I also say a problem once where the dhcp server was giving out the same ip
address to many different people. If the dhcp gives you an ip and then
someone comes online and the dhcp gives them the same ip, then you get
knocked off. Ask the techs about the dhcp server status as well.
You could try tweaking the MTU setting, but that's usually used to help with
slow connections, not no connection.
 
I am having the same type of problem. During this time,
my IP lease obtained/expires window is 20 seconds. I have
even tried going into the command prompt window and
releasing/renewing my IP address, but the best bet I have
is rebooting my modem. My cable company still thinks it's
something with my OS. I'll be interested to see the
replies you get.
 
Huck -
In my opinion and experience, this is a problem with your
cable service provider. They blamed my computer, sent
out techs who were near-idiots.. fixed nothing. I finally
found one good tech at their end - and after a year of
my complaining... the problems ceased. I didn't change
anything here. ISP is Wideopenwest. No probs, 6 months.
Huck ----------------------------------------------------
 
Thanks. I'm answering a couple of replies here.

The modem is about four years old and never been upgraded. When the
drop out occurs the lights on the modem indicate connectivity, same
with the ethernet card. I have had the cable outdoors go bad a couple
of times. Once a squirrel apparently ate through the insulation.
Another time water got into the splitter, froze, and broke the
splitter apart. After they were fixed, everything worked fine. The
thing this time is the timing. One night, on my old system, all was
fine. The next day, I built the new system, hooked up, and the problem
started. That's why I figured it was with the new system somehow.
Hardware, software, whatever. Maybe it was just coincidence, as much
as I don't believe in coincidence. Also, here's a post I just made to
a cable related group. Maybe it's pertinent:

-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
I've been having problems since building a new system last month:

ASUS P4C800 Deluxe board
1Gb RAM
Windows XP Pro
Intel 3.2Ghz processor

I use Optimum Online cable modem service.

Since building the new system, my connection drops out several times a
day. Never while I'm actually doing something, but if I go from one
program to another, i.e. Agent to Netscape or AOL, suddenly the
connection is gone and I have to reboot to get it back (release/renew
doesn't work).

While checking the modem, I noticed two attenuators hooked up in line.
I then remembered the cable tech putting them there about two years
ago for a problem I had back then on a different system. I don't even
remember what the problem was. The attenuators say 6dB and 3dB. I took
them off to see what would happen. So far my speeds seem good. I
haven;t lost the connection yet, but then it's sporadic at best, and I
could lose it after posting this note.

My question is what are these attenuators, and what do they do? And do
I need them? Thanks for any help.
 
Ok, now I'm leaning with you, to a prob on your end. Could be a coincidence,
but unlikely. Also if your lights are good, then it probably isn't a node.
Maybe the dhcp issue I mentioned is worth looking into. In a six month
period working for comcast I saw their dhcp server issue same ip's five
different times. Almost once a month, so its not impossible.
When the connection drops do you still have an ip address that's valid? If
not maybe when your computer tries to renew it lease its timing out. That
could be a network card prob or dhcp server.
Have you tried the usually things, like virus scans and spyware removal?
Try the mtu setting tweak:
http://www.pcpitstop.com/pcpitstop/autofix.asp?file=IntSpeed.hta
Update drivers on network card.
Update modem firmware if available.

I'm no expert, I only did cable support for 6 months, post back if you try
anything, I'll post if I come up with more.
 
Cable systems do look at the MAC address of the computer,
when you upgraded the computer the hardware MAC changed, but
the modem may still be looking for the old MAC.

Best deal now that prices are lower, get a router to sit
between the cable modem and the computer or computers. Then
you can change or update without that problem, also you can
run and share the cable connection.


| Thanks. I'm answering a couple of replies here.
|
| The modem is about four years old and never been upgraded.
When the
| drop out occurs the lights on the modem indicate
connectivity, same
| with the ethernet card. I have had the cable outdoors go
bad a couple
| of times. Once a squirrel apparently ate through the
insulation.
| Another time water got into the splitter, froze, and broke
the
| splitter apart. After they were fixed, everything worked
fine. The
| thing this time is the timing. One night, on my old
system, all was
| fine. The next day, I built the new system, hooked up, and
the problem
| started. That's why I figured it was with the new system
somehow.
| Hardware, software, whatever. Maybe it was just
coincidence, as much
| as I don't believe in coincidence. Also, here's a post I
just made to
| a cable related group. Maybe it's pertinent:
|
| ----------------------------------------------------------
-------------------------------------------------
| I've been having problems since building a new system last
month:
|
| ASUS P4C800 Deluxe board
| 1Gb RAM
| Windows XP Pro
| Intel 3.2Ghz processor
|
| I use Optimum Online cable modem service.
|
| Since building the new system, my connection drops out
several times a
| day. Never while I'm actually doing something, but if I go
from one
| program to another, i.e. Agent to Netscape or AOL,
suddenly the
| connection is gone and I have to reboot to get it back
(release/renew
| doesn't work).
|
| While checking the modem, I noticed two attenuators hooked
up in line.
| I then remembered the cable tech putting them there about
two years
| ago for a problem I had back then on a different system. I
don't even
| remember what the problem was. The attenuators say 6dB and
3dB. I took
| them off to see what would happen. So far my speeds seem
good. I
| haven;t lost the connection yet, but then it's sporadic at
best, and I
| could lose it after posting this note.
|
| My question is what are these attenuators, and what do
they do? And do
| I need them? Thanks for any help.
|
| >No, there are no known or common issues like this is xp.
When this happens
| >are you losing sync on the modem an out or flashing cable
light? Does the pc
| >light ever go out? Usually line drops and disconnects on
a cable modem are
| >on the isp side. Possible that the modem is overheating,
but most likely
| >they have a server or node or line going bad. Sure the
isp says no problems
| >on there end, that what they're trained to say. I worked
support for comcast
| >cable before and even when we knew there was a problem,
we were not allowed
| >to say so. I have road runner cable now and about two
years ago I had a
| >similar problem. Everyday the modem would lose sync and
would not reconnect
| >for hours or days sometimes. The isp said there's no
prob, but I knew
| >better. I demanded that they come out to my house and
check the line, modem,
| >and nodes in the area. Sure enough they found a cable
that needed replacing.
| >A day or so later it was fixed and all was well. Call
your isp again and
| >have them come to your house and check it out. If you get
a lazy tech and he
| >doesn't find anything, call again and have another come
out. Make sure they
| >check your setup, your modem, do a line test inside and
outside the house,
| >and check the nodes in the area.
| >I also say a problem once where the dhcp server was
giving out the same ip
| >address to many different people. If the dhcp gives you
an ip and then
| >someone comes online and the dhcp gives them the same ip,
then you get
| >knocked off. Ask the techs about the dhcp server status
as well.
| >You could try tweaking the MTU setting, but that's
usually used to help with
| >slow connections, not no connection.
| >
| >[email protected] wrote:
| >> Since I built this new system last month, and started
using Windows XP
| >> Pro, my cable modem connection drops out periodically.
I've been in
| >> touch with the cable company who can find no problems,
and also with
| >> the motherboard manufacturer who couldn't find a
problem. The drop out
| >> occurs both with the onboard cable connection as well
as a PCI fast
| >> ethernet card. Is this a known issue with Windows XP
Pro? Are there
| >> tweaks or adjustments that need to be made? I never
experienced this
| >> problem before the new system and XP Pro. For the
record, I have an
| >> Asus P4C800 Deluxe board, Intel 3.2Ghz processor and
1Gb RAM. Thanks.
| >
|
|
 
A couple of things.

Check the Event Viewer to see if any unable to renew ip address lease
messages.
This happens to me once in a while.
I actually jumped the gun one time and called my ISP demanding to know
what was causing my outage. Looking through the Event Viewer later I
realised that my lease was unable to be renewed. I had rebooted in the mean
time.
I always check the Event Viewer first now before calling my ISP. :o)

Ocassionally you have to reboot the modem. With an onboard modem
that would probably mean rebooting the whole computer.

It is my understanding that cable modems put off a lot of heat.
That is why I opted to purchase an external USB cable modem.
Could it be that you onboard modem is getting hot??
 
Okay, another reply several posters. I ran SpyBot and Adaware and the
system is clean. Also, it's an external cable modem, so I don;t think
heat is an issue. It's well ventilated where it is.

Someone did suggest I look at the event log. I'm new to Wijndows XP,
but I found the log and gave it a look and see nothing that I would
consider relevant. But again, I'm not up on this. What exactly would I
be looking for?

What is the dhcp server you mention? That's at the cable company's
end, right? I don;t think it's the network card because I've tried two
PCI cards as well as the RJ45 connector on the motherboard. Same
problem with each one. Also, trying two PCI cards, and the RJ45 jack
which uses the PCI bus according to the motherboard techie, if ti was
a PCI bus issue, then my other PCI cards would be causing me problems,
which they're not. I'll check the tweak at PCPitstop, but the last
time I went there, I couldn't do anything. The tests kept freezing on
me for some reason. Thanks again for all the help and suggestions.
 
I think all cable modems are external, but if something was physically wrong
with it it can heat up and then shut itself down to prevent burning out. I
seen this happen enough to mention it. If its the cable co modem, then see
if they will swap it out for a newer one.
The dhcp server is on the cables end. It is the server that issues IP
addresses. Without and ip address you don't get online. When you boot up the
computer the modem goes out and connects to the dhcp server and the server
inturn issues you an ip address(on cable modems it 90% of the time the same
ip over and over). It uses your mac address of the modem(or nic sometimes)
to verify who you are then looks up in a "table" what ip you should get and
gives it to you. Again I'm not a expert so this is in simple terms. I'vee
seen where the server thinks everyone is the same person and keeps giving
the same ip to many people. This in turn knocks off the last person that had
that ip address, cause two people can't have the same address.
Try the mtu tweak. If you can't get pcpitstop to work just search google for
MTU tweaks or cable modem speed tweaks. Could be your just experienceing
high packet lose and a tweak of the mtu may help.
 
Cable systems do look at the MAC address of the computer,
when you upgraded the computer the hardware MAC changed, but
the modem may still be looking for the old MAC.

This would not be a problem as the Cable system looks only for the MAC
address of the modem nothing more.
 
This is cable system dependent.
Some systems impose a strict requirement that the MAC address of an attached
PC(NIC) match the data they have on file. Others do not. In my case, I avoid
the issue with a router. Since the routers MAC address is settable, It can
be changed to match existing data when necessary.
 

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