CA Simply Money won't install

[reddog]

I am trying to install a financial program, CA Simply Money, on a computer
that has a fresh install of XP home. I know there is nothing wrong with the
installation disk which is the original installation floppy disk, purchased
long ago. I have this program installed on a very old 386 computer, and want
to transfer my records into the newer computer, but apparently XP won't
accept the installation. An error message appears, but gives no other
information. The original manual that came with the installation disk
mentions potential conflicts with anti-virus programs, but I have no
anti-virus program installed on the newer machine, as it is not online and is
a clean install of XP.

 

[Leonard Grey]

Is this program of yours compatible with Windows XP?

 

[DL]

I believe it was designed for Win 3.1 and released in 1993?
So no its most unlikely to run on WinXP, even in compatibility mode.

Assuming your old PC is still running I believe that in CA you can export
your files to quif format files, that can then be imported by MS Money

 

[reddog]

I believe it was designed for Win 3.1 and released in 1993?

Yes, that's correct. It's still working great for what it was designed to do.

So no its most unlikely to run on WinXP, even in compatibility mode.

That's exactly my problem.

Assuming your old PC is still running I believe that in CA you can export
your files to quif format files, that can then be imported by MS Money

Yes, my old PC is still running reliably, but I don't want to keep it
forever. I want to move the files (and the program to run them) into a more
modern computer. Please tell me how to do this.

 

[Richard in AZ]

| "DL" wrote:
|
| > I believe it was designed for Win 3.1 and released in 1993?
|
| Yes, that's correct. It's still working great for what it was designed to do.
|
| > So no its most unlikely to run on WinXP, even in compatibility mode.
|
| That's exactly my problem.
|
| > Assuming your old PC is still running I believe that in CA you can export
| > your files to quif format files, that can then be imported by MS Money
|
| Yes, my old PC is still running reliably, but I don't want to keep it
| forever. I want to move the files (and the program to run them) into a more
| modern computer. Please tell me how to do this.

You will have to bite the bullet and get more modern programs.
Old DOS (Win 3.1 was a DOS overlay) programs just do not work in modern computers.
Quicken or Money are good banking software. But you will need to make some file changes, using
your old computer, to be able to import the old files into the new software.

 

[Ken Blake]

| "DL" wrote:
|
| > I believe it was designed for Win 3.1 and released in 1993?
|
| Yes, that's correct. It's still working great for what it was designed
to do.
|
| > So no its most unlikely to run on WinXP, even in compatibility mode.
|
| That's exactly my problem.
|
| > Assuming your old PC is still running I believe that in CA you can
export
| > your files to quif format files, that can then be imported by MS Money
|
| Yes, my old PC is still running reliably, but I don't want to keep it
| forever. I want to move the files (and the program to run them) into a
more
| modern computer. Please tell me how to do this.

You will have to bite the bullet and get more modern programs.
Old DOS (Win 3.1 was a DOS overlay) programs just do not work in modern
computers.

That's not correct. Some do and some don't. ALthough many don't work, it
depends entirely on the program. However, in this case I suspect that you
are right that this one won't. Still, if I were in the OP's shoes and wanted
to use it, I'd begin by contactring the program's manufacturer and ask
whether it can work under XP.

Quicken or Money are good banking software.

I'm a Quicken fan myself, but I think it's very good *financial* software.
It does a lot more financial things than just banking.

 

[Richard in AZ]

| |
| > | > | "DL" wrote:
| > |
| > | > I believe it was designed for Win 3.1 and released in 1993?
| > |
| > | Yes, that's correct. It's still working great for what it was designed
| > to do.
| > |
| > | > So no its most unlikely to run on WinXP, even in compatibility mode.
| > |
| > | That's exactly my problem.
| > |
| > | > Assuming your old PC is still running I believe that in CA you can
| > export
| > | > your files to quif format files, that can then be imported by MS Money
| > |
| > | Yes, my old PC is still running reliably, but I don't want to keep it
| > | forever. I want to move the files (and the program to run them) into a
| > more
| > | modern computer. Please tell me how to do this.
| >
| > You will have to bite the bullet and get more modern programs.
| > Old DOS (Win 3.1 was a DOS overlay) programs just do not work in modern
| > computers.
|
|
| That's not correct. Some do and some don't. ALthough many don't work, it
| depends entirely on the program. However, in this case I suspect that you
| are right that this one won't. Still, if I were in the OP's shoes and wanted
| to use it, I'd begin by contactring the program's manufacturer and ask
| whether it can work under XP.
|
|
| > Quicken or Money are good banking software.
|
|
| I'm a Quicken fan myself, but I think it's very good *financial* software.
| It does a lot more financial things than just banking.
|
| > But you will need to make some file changes, using
| > your old computer, to be able to import the old files into the new
| > software.
| >
| >

You're right, I meant to say "Most DOS programs do not work in modern computer systems."|

 

[Ken Blake]

| |
| > | > | "DL" wrote:
| > |
| > | > I believe it was designed for Win 3.1 and released in 1993?
| > |
| > | Yes, that's correct. It's still working great for what it was
designed
| > to do.
| > |
| > | > So no its most unlikely to run on WinXP, even in compatibility
mode.
| > |
| > | That's exactly my problem.
| > |
| > | > Assuming your old PC is still running I believe that in CA you can
| > export
| > | > your files to quif format files, that can then be imported by MS
Money
| > |
| > | Yes, my old PC is still running reliably, but I don't want to keep
it
| > | forever. I want to move the files (and the program to run them) into
a
| > more
| > | modern computer. Please tell me how to do this.
| >
| > You will have to bite the bullet and get more modern programs.
| > Old DOS (Win 3.1 was a DOS overlay) programs just do not work in
modern
| > computers.
|
|
| That's not correct. Some do and some don't. ALthough many don't work,
it
| depends entirely on the program. However, in this case I suspect that
you
| are right that this one won't. Still, if I were in the OP's shoes and
wanted
| to use it, I'd begin by contactring the program's manufacturer and ask
| whether it can work under XP.
|
|
| > Quicken or Money are good banking software.
|
|
| I'm a Quicken fan myself, but I think it's very good *financial*
software.
| It does a lot more financial things than just banking.
|
| > But you will need to make some file changes, using
| > your old computer, to be able to import the old files into the new
| > software.
| >
| >

You're right, I meant to say "Most DOS programs do not work in modern
computer systems."|

Good. Glad to see we don't disagree to the extent that it first seemed.

 

[reddog]

That's not correct. Some do and some don't. ALthough many don't work, it
depends entirely on the program. However, in this case I suspect that you
are right that this one won't. Still, if I were in the OP's shoes and wanted
to use it, I'd begin by contactring the program's manufacturer and ask
whether it can work under XP.

I tried that. The original phone help number for the product is long since
defunct. Their web site is also useless regarding this product. Considering
the scandals that have occurred at CA over the last few years, expecting
customer support from them is wishful thinking, at best.

Let's face it: in computer technology everything is disposable, and anything
you buy is already obsolete before you bring it home. And so, I'm probably
stuck with maintaining my financial records on a 15 year old computer,
because there is no practical way of exporting them to a more modern format.

 

[DL]

I advised you in the first reply as to how to make your data available to
your new PC.
It involves you buying a more up to date program that works on WinXP and
allows the import of qif files

 

[Bob Lucas]

One other possibility occurs to me. I am sure there are complications -
and somebody more knowlegeable that I would need to advise regarding the
technical aspects.

However, I wonder whether it might be be feasible to physically install
the HDD drive from the old Win 3.1 machine onto a spare IDE channel in
the Win XP machine (complete with the DOS and Win 3.1 operating system).
Then, configure the Win XP machine for dual boot.

Please don't flame me if this is totally impracticable - but it is just
a thought.

 

[DL]

You seem to want to go to a great deal of effort to continue using an old
program when modern alternatives are available.
Yes you could create a dual boot PC, but all this just to run one program?

 

[reddog]

You seem to want to go to a great deal of effort to continue using an old
program when modern alternatives are available.
Yes you could create a dual boot PC, but all this just to run one program?

I've decided to do the only other alternative, which is taking all the data
and transcribing it by cut & pasting (and typing) it into a word document,
saving that to a floppy, and displaying it on the XP machine; then,
re-transcribing everything into the other, newer program, MS Money. It's
taking me countless hours to do it, but it's probably the only solution.

BTW, I also have all the data backed up as a cardfile format file in the 3.1
machine, but cardfile won't run as a program on the XP system, either.