By-pass Vista file restrictions.

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Dr. DOS

Vista Business Professional

I want to by-pass all restrictions to file access. No more
"access denied" when looking at "documents and settings." No
denial of access to others in the workgroup. I want an open LAN.

I am quite frustrated going through 13 steps for security
permissions and ownership just for the principal user
(me)(administrative permission) to look at or modify a file
or sub-directory. I am fed up with the myopic paranoia. I
will take my chances with the malicious attackers, that's
why god invented the firewall and anti-virus programs. I
just want to know how to bypass the paranoia. I do not want
justifications for why MS did it this way, or what I throw
away by disabling something. Save it. Just the nitty-gritty
how to.

Thank you.
 
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DDW

Vista Business Professional

I want to by-pass all restrictions to file access. No more
"access denied" when looking at "documents and settings." No
denial of access to others in the workgroup. I want an open LAN.

I am quite frustrated going through 13 steps for security
permissions and ownership just for the principal user
(me)(administrative permission) to look at or modify a file
or sub-directory. I am fed up with the myopic paranoia. I
will take my chances with the malicious attackers, that's
why god invented the firewall and anti-virus programs. I
just want to know how to bypass the paranoia. I do not want
justifications for why MS did it this way, or what I throw
away by disabling something. Save it. Just the nitty-gritty
how to.

Enable the hidden (SUPER) administrator account.

Open a command prompt in administrator mode by right-clicking and
choosing "Run as administrator"

type (no quotes):

"net user administrator /active:yes"

Logout. You should see it.

DDW
 
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DDW

Vista Business Professional

I want to by-pass all restrictions to file access. No more
"access denied" when looking at "documents and settings." No
denial of access to others in the workgroup. I want an open LAN.

I am quite frustrated going through 13 steps for security
permissions and ownership just for the principal user
(me)(administrative permission) to look at or modify a file
or sub-directory. I am fed up with the myopic paranoia. I
will take my chances with the malicious attackers, that's
why god invented the firewall and anti-virus programs. I
just want to know how to bypass the paranoia. I do not want
justifications for why MS did it this way, or what I throw
away by disabling something. Save it. Just the nitty-gritty
how to.

You could also turn off User Account Control:

Control Panel (Classic mode) - User Accounts

You'll see it.

DDW
 
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Gordon

Dr. DOS said:
Vista Business Professional

I want to by-pass all restrictions to file access. No more "access denied"
when looking at "documents and settings."

<sigh> WHY would you want to access "documents and settings"? THERE'S
NOTHING IN IT. There NEVER will be..........
Read up about Junction points. A Junction Point is a Symbolic Link - you
CAN'T access it AFAIK.

http://www.google.co.uk/search?rls=ig&hl=en&q=Junction+points+in+Vista&meta=

Just live with it. I don't know why you are so obsessed with trying to
access something that you can't...
 
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Gordon

DDW said:
Enable the hidden (SUPER) administrator account.

Open a command prompt in administrator mode by right-clicking and
choosing "Run as administrator"

type (no quotes):

"net user administrator /active:yes"

Logout. You should see it.


Don't bother with this idiot - there's been a huge thread about this before.
He can't seem to get it into his head that Documents and Settings is a
symbolic link - not a folder. The man's totally obsessed....
 
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Dr. DOS

DDW said:
Enable the hidden (SUPER) administrator account.

Open a command prompt in administrator mode by right-clicking and
choosing "Run as administrator"

type (no quotes):

"net user administrator /active:yes"

Logout. You should see it.

DDW
Thanks. I'll give it a try.
I've always wanted to be SUPER!
 
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Dr. DOS

Gordon said:
Don't bother with this idiot - there's been a huge thread about this
before. He can't seem to get it into his head that Documents and
Settings is a symbolic link - not a folder. The man's totally obsessed....
OK.
Now I will not be even a symbolic SUPER. I am disappointed.
 
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Dr. DOS

Gordon said:
<sigh> WHY would you want to access "documents and settings"? THERE'S
NOTHING IN IT. There NEVER will be..........
Read up about Junction points. A Junction Point is a Symbolic Link - you
CAN'T access it AFAIK.

http://www.google.co.uk/search?rls=ig&hl=en&q=Junction+points+in+Vista&meta=


Just live with it. I don't know why you are so obsessed with trying to
access something that you can't...

Strange. Documents and settings is directory in XP. I do not
understand why Documents and Settings is listed in the
directory tree structure in Vista if it not to be accessed.
I am lost about this. I am obsessed with the convoluted maze
created by Vista for file management, file access, the
install and starting of some programs (allow/deny) and so
forth. I want this out of my way. When I want to be
patronized and coddled, I'll purchase an operating system
that has training wheels and a roll-bar.
 
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Dave

It's not complicated, it's just different....
In Vista, "Documents and Settings" is not a folder.
Vista uses a different file structure than XP does/did. Those familiar
folder names you may be used to, like "My Documents", "Documents &
Settings", etc.
are not folders in Vista. They are junction points, and are used for legacy
programs which were written to utilize the XP file structure. They will
redirect the programs to use the equivalent Vista folders.
If you keep the protected operating system files hidden, you won't see them.

In Vista......
Documents & Settings -> \Users
My Documents -> \Users\youraccount\Documents
My Music -> \Users\youraccount\Music
Application Data -> \Users\youraccount\AppData
etc.
 
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DDW

Don't bother with this idiot - there's been a huge thread about this before.
He can't seem to get it into his head that Documents and Settings is a
symbolic link - not a folder. The man's totally obsessed....

Or a total idiot, from what you say.

DDW
 
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Peter Foldes

Dr. DOS

You know that you are leaving yourself open for unwanted visitors by staying in the S Administrator mode. These visitors will deposit their luggage on your hard disk. You will need a lot of outside help just to pick them up and remove them. You might even need to demolish because they took over your HD and you cannot take it back from them otherwise
 
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Snidley W.

Peter Foldes said:
Dr. DOS

You know that you are leaving yourself open for unwanted visitors by
staying in the S Administrator mode. These visitors will deposit their
luggage on your hard disk. You will need a lot of outside help just to
pick them up and remove them. You might even need to demolish
because they took over your HD and you cannot take it back from
them otherwise

Which is exactly what it will take to wake him up... right?

Don't mess with evolutionary processes.
 
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DevilsPGD

In message <[email protected]> "Dr. DOS"
Strange. Documents and settings is directory in XP. I do not
understand why Documents and Settings is listed in the
directory tree structure in Vista if it not to be accessed.

And that lack of understanding is why you need to stop right here. You
are the reason that Vista is more secure out of the box, and you are not
qualified or capable of intelligently changing security settings until
you understand the ramifications, as well as some basics about how
junctions work.
 
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Dr. DOS

DevilsPGD said:
In message <[email protected]> "Dr. DOS"


And that lack of understanding is why you need to stop right here. You
are the reason that Vista is more secure out of the box, and you are not
qualified or capable of intelligently changing security settings until
you understand the ramifications, as well as some basics about how
junctions work.

OK.
How do junctions work?

I'll respond to your other comments later.
 
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Dr. DOS

Gordon said:
They are symbolic links. Do a Google on that, or click on the link I
supplied in my reply....

Thank you Gordon. I now have an idea about junctions as
pointers. I guess I missed that part of the orientation when
I started up my new Vista computer. I would expect, as I
indicated above, that when a directory (folder) is listed in
the file structure, it is real. Of course, the "access
denied" error window does not explain a thing about
junctions. pointers and or new file structure.
 
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Gordon

Dr. DOS said:
Thank you Gordon. I now have an idea about junctions as pointers. I guess
I missed that part of the orientation when I started up my new Vista
computer. I would expect, as I indicated above, that when a directory
(folder) is listed in the file structure, it is real. Of course, the
"access denied" error window does not explain a thing about junctions.
pointers and or new file structure.


YW!
 

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