Businesses Having Second Thoughts about Vista

[Alias]

http://www.computerworld.com/action...ArticleBasic&articleId=9028478&intsrc=hm_list

Note how many are going to Linux instead of Vista. Those Zero-day
vulnerabilities are a bitch!

 

[Guest]

Malware!

 

[Alias]

Malware!

That's what, sooner or later, you will get if you keep running Windows.

 

[Guest]

Was in PC world yesterday and noticed that most of the new PCs were turned
off. The few that were running were displaying scrolling ads instead of
Vista. There were no customers in that section, and no sales staff either. Is
that because they aren't selling any, I wonder?

Another point to ponder is that the supposedly healthy Vista sales figures
almost certainly include OEM copies, but of course no-one knows for certain
how many of these OEM disks get formatted the moment the PC comes out the
box. It's possible the actual usage figures are lower. Much lower.

 

[Frank]

That's what, sooner or later, you will get if you keep running Windows.

So your computer running xp is constantly infected?
Is that correct?
Frank

 

[Richard Urban]

It's also possible that the usage stats are higher because of the Chinese.

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Quote from George Ankner:
If you knew as much as you think you know,
You would realize that you don't know what you thought you knew!

 

[Bill Yanaire]

Now if you read the article, you will notice that the company, PatchLink
provides solutions to companies who want NETWORK security solutions.
PatchLink polled 250 of them. Now, in the network world where Linux has a
higher presence of users than in the home market, the number THINKING of
migrating to Linux is about 8%, or maybe 20 companies. Not surprising for
businesses.

Yes, I know that the subject of this thread was geared towards Business, but
most users here are HOME users. It is natural that business explore the
possibility of migration to a non Windows solution. Whoppte-do.

If the home user has issues with Vista being slow, crashing, not running
their software, fixes will be coming, or they can migrate back to XP. But
they certainly don't want Ubuntu or Linux. Bad choice for most. Reason
being is they want something that they can work with right away. Ubuntu has
a steep learning curve that most don't want to deal with. Bottom line,
Ubuntu is for Geeks who have lots of time on their hands and want to tiker
with toys.

Just another posting by the Ubuntu Marketing Department (Alias) to try and
scare the visitors the the windows.vista.general group to think about
Ubuntu.

Why would they want a TOY OS to play with when they can use Vista or even XP
to get real work done?

 

[Alias]

So your computer running xp is constantly infected?
Is that correct?
Frank

Of course not. I only use it for gaming. When I use the Internet, I
don't use Windows, you moron!

 

[Alias]

Now if you read the article, you will notice that the company, PatchLink
provides solutions to companies who want NETWORK security solutions.
PatchLink polled 250 of them. Now, in the network world where Linux has a
higher presence of users than in the home market, the number THINKING of
migrating to Linux is about 8%, or maybe 20 companies. Not surprising for
businesses.

Yes, I know that the subject of this thread was geared towards Business, but
most users here are HOME users. It is natural that business explore the
possibility of migration to a non Windows solution. Whoppte-do.

A tehc friend of mine has been installing Ubuntu on HOME computers, one
a day, for the last month. He can't keep up!

If the home user has issues with Vista being slow, crashing, not running
their software, fixes will be coming,

Yeah, in the form of paying more for hardware.

or they can migrate back to XP. But
they certainly don't want Ubuntu or Linux.

Um, you don't speak for anyone but yourself.

Bad choice for most. Reason
being is they want something that they can work with right away. Ubuntu has
a steep learning curve that most don't want to deal with.
False.

Bottom line,
Ubuntu is for Geeks who have lots of time on their hands and want to tiker
with toys.
False.


Just another posting by the Ubuntu Marketing Department (Alias) to try and
scare the visitors the the windows.vista.general group to think about
Ubuntu.

LOL! MS is the KING of FUD and you are one of the fanboys that laps it
right up.

Why would they want a TOY OS to play with when they can use Vista or even XP
to get real work done?

Ubuntu is not a Toy OS, of course!

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Alias
To email me, remove what's invalid

 

[DanS]

Why would they want a TOY OS to play with when they can use Vista or
even XP to get real work done?

Just wondering, what makes it a 'toy' OS...it will only run on a Speak 'n
Spell or a Tickle-Me-Elmo ?

 

[Bill Yanaire]

Yes, it runs on both those platforms and I think someone put it in a Barbie
also.

 

[Alias]

Just wondering, what makes it a 'toy' OS...it will only run on a Speak 'n
Spell or a Tickle-Me-Elmo ?

Advanced video editing hasn't really arrived to Linux, nor has gaming.
For everything else, emailing, Internet surfing, faxing, printing, etc.,
Ubuntu is great.

 

[Frank]

Of course not. I only use it for gaming. When I use the Internet, I
don't use Windows, you moron!

So your Windows XP computer is not constantly infected with malware and
viruses like you're constantly preaching about?
If that's correct then that proves you are a liar...just as I've been
saying all along.
We have never, ever been infected by malware or viruses while being on
line constantly while using only Windows applications for well over a
decade.

The constant lies and FUD you chose to spread in this ng point to the
fact that you have much larger issues than simply some brand of software.
Of course you'll deny it but that's apart of the sickness isn't it?
We are all now very much aware of your sickness as you try to infect us
with it numerous times on a daily basis.
Get some professional help.
We all know you need it!
Frank

 

[Frank]

Advanced video editing hasn't really arrived to Linux, nor has gaming.
For everything else, emailing, Internet surfing, faxing, printing, etc.,
Ubuntu is great.

It's a great toy and you're nothing but a lying FUD spreading moron!
But we all know that don't we?
Frank

 

[Alias]

So your Windows XP computer is not constantly infected with malware and
viruses like you're constantly preaching about?

Not what I said. Read it again, this time with your reading glasses on.

If that's correct then that proves you are a liar...just as I've been
saying all along.

Being as it isn't correct ...

We have never, ever been infected by malware or viruses while being on
line constantly while using only Windows applications for well over a
decade.
Liar.


The constant lies and FUD you chose to spread in this ng point to the
fact that you have much larger issues than simply some brand of software.
Of course you'll deny it but that's apart of the sickness isn't it?
We are all now very much aware of your sickness as you try to infect us
with it numerous times on a daily basis.
Get some professional help.
We all know you need it!
Frank

The people who do admit that they get viruses are paying attention. Live
with it.

 

[Alias]

It's a great toy and you're nothing but a lying FUD spreading moron!

I make a lot of money with the "toy".

But we all know that don't we?
Frank

The only people who "know" that are fanboys like you who are too stoopid
to be able to install Ubuntu and who bluster all over the place, lying
and insulting anyone logical and reasonable like a deranged orangutan.

 

[Bill Yanaire]

So you have proved my point. A TOY Operating System just for geeks. I have
heard that with the OpenSores software you can even write words down,
numbers down and even draw primative pictures. NO advanced video editing,
no real gaming. But you can surf, print, and check email. Boy, my old
Windows 98/ME pile can do those things.

When you go out to your prospective Ubuntu clients, make sure you tell them
about what you confessed to us here. Maybe the Marketing Division of Ubuntu
should rethink its strategy.

 

[Alias]

So you have proved my point. A TOY Operating System just for geeks.

Emailing, Internet surfing, faxing, printing, etc is just for geeks?
Since when?

I have

heard that with the OpenSores software you can even write words down,
numbers down and even draw primative pictures. NO advanced video editing,
no real gaming. But you can surf, print, and check email. Boy, my old
Windows 98/ME pile can do those things.

Try to find a new computer that will run Win 9x. Also, those toy OSs had
to be rebooted constantly due to resource loss. Defragging was a real
joy too.

When you go out to your prospective Ubuntu clients, make sure you tell them
about what you confessed to us here. Maybe the Marketing Division of Ubuntu
should rethink its strategy.

I do tell them and those few who do video editing are encouraged to do a
dual boot with XP until the video editing programmers get with the new
OS that will wipe Windows right off the map.

Alias

 

[Bill Yanaire]

Emailing, Internet surfing, faxing, printing, etc is just for geeks? Since
when?

I said that Ubuntu is for geeks. Of course they can fax, surf, and print.

I have

Try to find a new computer that will run Win 9x. Also, those toy OSs had
to be rebooted constantly due to resource loss. Defragging was a real joy
too.

Any new computer will run Windows 9x. You may not want to put it on a new
computer, but it will run. Reboot - OK so what. Defrag? Yes it's a pain
but less of a pain than Ubuntu.

I do tell them and those few who do video editing are encouraged to do a
dual boot with XP until the video editing programmers get with the new OS
that will wipe Windows right off the map.

Who wants to dual boot to use a TOY OS? Get real. People don't want to
dual boot just to pay with Ubuntu - Get real.

Alias

 

[DanS]

Yes, it runs on both those platforms and I think someone put it in a
Barbie also.

So what you are saying is you have no reasons for that other than seemingly
than Frank calls it a toy OS.