Building a new gaming rig - help?

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Someone has offered to buy my current rig for £600, which is a good price considering. The spec is:

neovo 17" TFT
Sapphire 9600 Pro 128mb
2x512mb pc2700 ram
80gb hdd
p4 2.4ghz 800fsb
cheiftec dragon case - black

The reason I accepted the offer is because I believe it's possible to build a better rig for £600. I've been messing with ideas for weeks now but I can't seem to get the trade off right. The system will be used primarily for gaming so a good gfx card is needed etc. I'm not sure whether I should go for a CRT monitor which frees up more money for power or a TFT which saves desk space and looks infinately better. Some things I've been considering are pci-e gfx cards and amd's 64 bit processor range. Any help would be great. I've been using ebuyer for pretty much all my parts and prices. I need everything except speakers and soundcard.
 

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this is a tight budget for a 64bit system but you may be able to do it, i've come up with the following

Asus A8V
AMD Athlon64 3200
512MB Geil RAM
160GB Maxtor SATA HD
Lite-on Dual layer DVD-RW
HIS Radeon 9800 Pro
Neovo F-417 17" LCD

roughly £595 from OCUK plus a case, mouse, keyboard

you could get most things cheaper off Ebuyer
 

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Yea ebuyer is pretty cheap. I was thinking of maybe having a CRT monitor to make room for more power. in a system I came up with I had a AMD64 3000+, 6600GT PCI-E, 80GB HDD (don't need much space, I burn stuff to dvd), 1024mb ram ddr400 and the list goes on.
 

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ok i've made a few changes and come up with

Asus A8N-E
Athlon64 3000
1GB Geil RAM
80GB Maxtor SATA HD
Lite-on DVD-RW
Ilyama 17" CRT
Leadtek 128MB 6600GT
Logitech EX-100 Keyboard and mouse

£585 plus a case of your choice

prices still from OCUK
 

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Been tinkering with some specs and I came up with the following.

Case: Thermaltake Soprano VB1000BWS
http://www.specialtech.co.uk/spshop/customer/product.php?productid=1199&cat=24&page=1
£ 62.75 (including delivery)

PSU: Ebuyer 600w Power Supply Black With Tri Colour Dual Fans
http://www.ebuyer.com/customer/prod...2hvd19wcm9kdWN0X292ZXJ2aWV3&product_uid=61301
£18.79

Processor: AMD (Winchester) Athlon 64bit 3200+ 939pin 512kb L2 Cache 90nm OEM Processor
http://www.ebuyer.com/customer/prod...2hvd19wcm9kdWN0X292ZXJ2aWV3&product_uid=83377
£120.52

Graphics Card: PNY Verto GeForce 6 6600GT PCI-E 128MB GDDR3 (G66600GN1F12XPB) Retail Box
http://www.ebuyer.com/customer/prod...2hvd19wcm9kdWN0X292ZXJ2aWV3&product_uid=81343
£116.45

Mobo: ABIT AX8 SKT939 PCI-E 5.1AUDIO SATA USB2.0 DDR400
http://www.ebuyer.com/customer/prod...2hvd19wcm9kdWN0X292ZXJ2aWV3&product_uid=87019
£74.99

Hard Drive: Seagate Barracuda 7200.7 80gb, Sata Ncq 3.5lp 7200rpm 8mb
http://www.ebuyer.com/customer/prod...2hvd19wcm9kdWN0X292ZXJ2aWV3&product_uid=80963
£37.42

Memory: Corsair (VS1GBKIT400C3) 1024MB (2 x 512MB Matched Pair), DDR400 / PC3200, non-ECC, Unbuffered, CL3, Memory Modules With Lifetime Warranty
http://www.ebuyer.com/customer/prod...2hvd19wcm9kdWN0X292ZXJ2aWV3&product_uid=54472
£66.69

Monitor: ACER AC713B 17" FST CRT TCO99 0.27dpi 1280x1024 Monitor - Black
http://www.ebuyer.com/customer/prod...2hvd19wcm9kdWN0X292ZXJ2aWV3&product_uid=55684
£60.00

DvD RW: LG GSA4163 16x DVD R/RW/RAM Internal Dual Layer IDE OEM Black Drive
http://www.ebuyer.com/customer/prod...2hvd19wcm9kdWN0X292ZXJ2aWV3&product_uid=84112
£30.88

Keyboard: Microsoft OEM Black MultiMedia Keyboard - PS2
http://www.ebuyer.com/customer/prod...2hvd19wcm9kdWN0X292ZXJ2aWV3&product_uid=82987
£9.99

Mouse: Microsoft Black PS2/USB 3-Button Optical Wheel Mouse-OEM
http://www.ebuyer.com/customer/prod...2hvd19wcm9kdWN0X292ZXJ2aWV3&product_uid=82520
£7.65

All that comes to £620.94 including delivery.

I'd like some feedback on the components I have selected. Remember, this is a gaming system on a tight budget. I think with the case and everything else in black it will look quite good on my desk. I would of liked a 17" TFT but CRTs are cheaper.
 

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the only problem is that power supply, at £20 it aint gonna be all that, i'd get a decent one like a Tagan there great but expensive also look for antec or enermax in the 480W range
 

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yeah thats better and should provide more stable power, everything else looks good
 

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H4z3 said:
in stead of the Sapphire 9600 Pro 128mb if you want a 9600 pro 128mb Get the Ati manufatured Card they last alittle longer and run slightly cooler also Try and stay away from nvida they maybe cheap But they are just lesser cards overclocked to where they work at the same speed at a ati thats why they are so much cheaper OOOO and do they Run hot as hell Like heat my Fu*kin room hot But of coarce if u have the cash Go for a x-800 :)

he's selling the setup in his first post and building the one in the last post
 
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look on komplett they have good deals... but you will have to get a monitor seperatley.... try a crt for now and when you get the money get a tft ;)
 

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H4z3 said:
Try and stay away from nvida they maybe cheap But they are just lesser cards overclocked to where they work at the same speed at a ati thats why they are so much cheaper
Nvida 6600GT or a ATI X700?
whats your choice :D

you can build a pretty good computer for 600Pounds, i wont break any reconds, but it will be good.
 

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Ok guys I'm making some progress now. Taking on board what you said ALF, I've been looking at what I can get for a similar price from ATI. For 'round the same price I can get the following graphics cards:

Connect 3d X700 PRO 256mb DDR with VGA DVI-I & Tv-out PCI-E
http://www.ebuyer.com/customer/prod...2hvd19wcm9kdWN0X292ZXJ2aWV3&product_uid=88827
£114.99

or I could get this graphics card, which says it has 512mb ram? I've never seen 512 on a graphics card, and its within budget. Thoughts?

GECUBE RADEON X700 Professional 512MB PCI-e Edition
http://www.ebuyer.com/customer/prod...2hvd19wcm9kdWN0X292ZXJ2aWV3&product_uid=91361
£116.85

I was also looking at the x800, which is £129.98:

Sapphire Radeon X800 128M GDDR3 PCI-E VGA/TVO/DVI-I
http://www.ebuyer.com/customer/prod...2hvd19wcm9kdWN0X292ZXJ2aWV3&product_uid=88581
 

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i wouldn't bother with the X700 of any kind,the X800 is a good card but the 6600GT are almost as good stick with the 6600 GT you can always get another one when you have more money
 

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Yup 6600GTs are better than X700 XTs
much better value
 

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I've had no problems with my sapphire in the 2 years it's been in use.
 

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