BSOD STOP 0x000000F4

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After installing SP2, I have received quite a few BSODs. I get them about 1
to 5 times or more a day. I have no idea what is causing them. I NEVER had
one the entire time I have had XP on this machine, which has been a few years
now. Since SP2, I get them all the time. I never changed any hardware. The
only thing I noticed is the hard drive starts going wacky before it occurs,
like it is locating from the first track to the last a few times, and
sometimes it won't recognize the drive on the reboot after the failure. I
then put in the XP boot disk and back out after the first disk boots. This
seems to fix the boot problem for some reason.

Not knowing what the problem was, I thought maybe the hard drive or MB
circuitry was going bad, so I changed the motherboard/processor and repaired
the XP installation. I then installed SP2 again. The problem went away for a
couple days but now it is back again. I am not so sure now that the hard
drive is the problem.

Here is the latest BSOD information:

A process or thread crucial to system operation has unexpectedly exited or
been terminated.

BLAH, BLAH, BLAH

STOP: 0x000000F4 (0x00000003, 0x81FF7708, 0x81FF787C, 0x805FA7A8)

The BSOD is not always the same. Here is another I received:

kernel_data_inpage_error

STOP: 0x0000007A (0xC0384DD0, 0xC000000E, 0xE13741D8, 0x1368F880)


Am I barking up the wrong tree that this could be a hard drive problem? It
seems more like a software thing, but I am no good at decipering XP
exceptions. Thanks for any help.
 
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Ron Martell

soccertl said:
After installing SP2, I have received quite a few BSODs. I get them about 1
to 5 times or more a day. I have no idea what is causing them. I NEVER had
one the entire time I have had XP on this machine, which has been a few years
now. Since SP2, I get them all the time. I never changed any hardware. The
only thing I noticed is the hard drive starts going wacky before it occurs,
like it is locating from the first track to the last a few times, and
sometimes it won't recognize the drive on the reboot after the failure. I
then put in the XP boot disk and back out after the first disk boots. This
seems to fix the boot problem for some reason.

Not knowing what the problem was, I thought maybe the hard drive or MB
circuitry was going bad, so I changed the motherboard/processor and repaired
the XP installation. I then installed SP2 again. The problem went away for a
couple days but now it is back again. I am not so sure now that the hard
drive is the problem.

Here is the latest BSOD information:

A process or thread crucial to system operation has unexpectedly exited or
been terminated.

BLAH, BLAH, BLAH

STOP: 0x000000F4 (0x00000003, 0x81FF7708, 0x81FF787C, 0x805FA7A8)
http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/d..._1a708a96-14bf-41c7-8881-cec536b95c57.xml.asp



The BSOD is not always the same. Here is another I received:

kernel_data_inpage_error

STOP: 0x0000007A (0xC0384DD0, 0xC000000E, 0xE13741D8, 0x1368F880)

See MVP Jim Eshelman's STOP errors web page at
http://www.aumha.org/win5/kbestop.htm and click on the "7A: Kernel
Data Inpage" link in the left side column.

Good luck


Ron Martell Duncan B.C. Canada
--
Microsoft MVP
On-Line Help Computer Service
http://onlinehelp.bc.ca

"The reason computer chips are so small is computers don't eat much."
 
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zamo_x

i have the same problem here.. after clean install of windows sp2.. i
have a toshiba satellite pro m30 notebook.

0x000000f4 (0x00000003, 0x820deb10, 0x820dec84, 0x805fa7a8)
0x000000f4 (0x00000003, 0x820a5020, 0x820a5194, 0x805fa7a8)
0x000000f4 (0x00000003, 0x8202e470, 0x8202e5e4, 0x805fa7a8)
0x000000f4 (0x00000003, 0x82026b60, 0x82026cd4, 0x805fa7a8)

here is a list with error message which i have received so far
 
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Ron Martell

i have the same problem here.. after clean install of windows sp2.. i
have a toshiba satellite pro m30 notebook.

0x000000f4 (0x00000003, 0x820deb10, 0x820dec84, 0x805fa7a8)
0x000000f4 (0x00000003, 0x820a5020, 0x820a5194, 0x805fa7a8)
0x000000f4 (0x00000003, 0x8202e470, 0x8202e5e4, 0x805fa7a8)
0x000000f4 (0x00000003, 0x82026b60, 0x82026cd4, 0x805fa7a8)

A STOP 0x000000f4 error is a CRITICAL_OBJECT_TERMINATION. This
indicates that a process or thread crucial to system operation has
unexpectedly exited or been terminated.

I would suspect some sort of virus, trojan, or advertising spyware
infestation is behind this.

Make certain that your antivirus software is fully up to date, with
the virus definitions not more than a week old, and do a complete
virus scan of your hard drive. Then get a "second opinion" by doing a
free online virus scan at one of the following sites:
http://housecall.trendmicro.com
http://www.pandasoftware.com/activescan/

Then check for and cleanup any advertising spyware on your machine by
following Jim Eshelman's spyware Quick Fix procedure at
http://www.aumha.org/a/quickfix.htm


Good luck

Ron Martell Duncan B.C. Canada
--
Microsoft MVP
On-Line Help Computer Service
http://onlinehelp.bc.ca

"The reason computer chips are so small is computers don't eat much."
 
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zamo_x

i have analyzed memory dump and here are more details:

PROCESS_OBJECT: 8220d368
IMAGE_NAME: csrss.exe
DEBUG_FLR_IMAGE_TIMESTAMP: 0
MODULE_NAME: csrss
FAULTING_MODULE: 00000000
CUSTOMER_CRASH_COUNT: 1
DEFAULT_BUCKET_ID: DRIVER_FAULT
BUGCHECK_STR: 0xF4
LAST_CONTROL_TRANSFER: from 8062ca73 to 805339ae

also i have done a virus scan and nothing was found...
any ideeas?
 
R

Ron Martell

i have analyzed memory dump and here are more details:

PROCESS_OBJECT: 8220d368
IMAGE_NAME: csrss.exe
DEBUG_FLR_IMAGE_TIMESTAMP: 0
MODULE_NAME: csrss
FAULTING_MODULE: 00000000
CUSTOMER_CRASH_COUNT: 1
DEFAULT_BUCKET_ID: DRIVER_FAULT
BUGCHECK_STR: 0xF4
LAST_CONTROL_TRANSFER: from 8062ca73 to 805339ae

also i have done a virus scan and nothing was found...
any ideeas?

What about the spyware check? Was that also clean? Spyware is more
invasive than viruses and is becoming more common. Antivirus programs
offer little or no detection ability for most spyware. You need to
run specialized spyware tools for this, and it normally requires more
than one such tool to clean up an infected system.

Your error information refers to MODULE_NAME: csrss

CSRSS.EXE is a genuine Windows component. However it is one that also
used by some spyware related items, such as keystroke logging programs
and certain backdoor trojans. So this reference in the error message
does reinforce the possibility that spyware may be the underlying
culprit.

Again, start with http://www.aumha.org/a/quickfix.htm and follow all
of the suggested steps in sequence.

Good luck



Ron Martell Duncan B.C. Canada
--
Microsoft MVP
On-Line Help Computer Service
http://onlinehelp.bc.ca

"The reason computer chips are so small is computers don't eat much."
 
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I have a Old Toshiba Satellite P20 and I used to get a not f4 BSOD, I kept getting a0x0000008E which occured usually a few minutes afer I logged on. The hard disk also went wacky before it occurred. Sometimes I didn't get a bluescreen, the laptop just hanged itself completly with harddisk activity light frozen on but I couldn't hear any clicky noises from the harddisk. And worst of all it didn't have a reset button so I had to pull out the power cord and wait 5 hours till the battery ran out. I then got tired of this nonsense so I wiped the hardisk and that worked. Did you try bacing up your files and wipe harddisk?
 
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i had this problem too.. but i solved this 0x000000f4 error problem by using (PC Health Advisor) its brings together high quality tools in one comprehensive program. This advanced software makes it easy to fix, clean and optimize your computer. PC Health Advisor gets things running right again by ejecting active malware, updating drivers, cleaning your Windows registry, defragmenting the disk, helping you update drivers, finding programs to open file extensions and getting rid of cached information that slows down your PC.
 

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