Browser Choice

[Kevin John Panzke]

YOU SHOULD TRY OUT MOZILLA FIREFOX 3.7 ALPHA 1! YOU CAN FIND IT IN THE
MOZILLA DEVELOPER CENTER @ http://www.mozilla.org/ OR THERE IS ALWAYS
OPERA 10.50 BETA 1 (ALPHA 1 FOR MAC AND LINUX) @ THE OPERA DEVELOPER
CENTER ON http://www.opera.com JUST FYI!

 

[Smirnoff]

Fortunately, I DID manage to avoid the "Choice" update.

You say that using System Restore got rid of it, great. However, other
posters are reporting that using SR does NOT remove it from their system and
are being advised to use a registry hack to stop it running.

Could it be that it depends on the OS whether SR works or not?

Thank you, Jean. I also have installing set to manual and I wish I had
done the same as you and ignored it. As it is I have done a System Restore
which got rid of it. Now it is the only one sitting in "Windows Update".

(Sorry aboout the rude elements in the thread... Not my usual style in
front of a lady)!

I have automatic updates off and check MS Update manually. I carefully
avoided downloading that one. On MS update it does have a hide check box.

[Adding Windows Update newsgroup to the crosspost.]

The Browser Choice update cannot be uninstalled.
--
~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Client - since 2002

Ed O'Brien wrote:
Windows Vista Home Premium

I used to know but forget... Can someone tell me where Windows stores
newly
installed updates?

I want to uninstall the damned browser choice notice now being
presented
every time I boot.

I just wish that unelected, corrupt bunch of crooks in the EU
Commission
would butt out. It was they who forced Microsoft to punish us this way.
Although it would also have been sensible for Microsoft to add a 'Do
Not
Show Again' button.

TIA

 

[Harry Johnston [MVP]]

Fortunately, I DID manage to avoid the "Choice" update.

You say that using System Restore got rid of it, great. However, other
posters are reporting that using SR does NOT remove it from their system
and are being advised to use a registry hack to stop it running.

Could it be that it depends on the OS whether SR works or not?

Unlikely. More likely the users reporting that system restore didn't work
either (a) used a restore point after the update was installed; or (b) did
successfully remove the update, but didn't manage to stop it from being
installed again. I'm not entirely certain how automatic updates interacts with
system restore, but it's possible (depending on various factors) that the update
would be reinstalled again almost straight away.

Harry.

Thank you, Jean. I also have installing set to manual and I wish I had
done the same as you and ignored it. As it is I have done a System
Restore which got rid of it. Now it is the only one sitting in
"Windows Update".

(Sorry aboout the rude elements in the thread... Not my usual style in
front of a lady)!

I have automatic updates off and check MS Update manually. I
carefully avoided downloading that one. On MS update it does have a
hide check box.


[Adding Windows Update newsgroup to the crosspost.]

The Browser Choice update cannot be uninstalled.
--
~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Client - since 2002

Ed O'Brien wrote:
Windows Vista Home Premium

I used to know but forget... Can someone tell me where Windows
stores newly
installed updates?

I want to uninstall the damned browser choice notice now being
presented
every time I boot.

I just wish that unelected, corrupt bunch of crooks in the EU
Commission
would butt out. It was they who forced Microsoft to punish us this
way.
Although it would also have been sensible for Microsoft to add a
'Do Not
Show Again' button.

TIA

 

[Smirnoff]

Unlikely. More likely the users reporting that system restore didn't work
either (a) used a restore point after the update was installed; or (b) did
successfully remove the update, but didn't manage to stop it from being
installed again. I'm not entirely certain how automatic updates interacts
with system restore, but it's possible (depending on various factors) that
the update would be reinstalled again almost straight away.

Harry.

I too am not sure how AU works with SR. All I'm trying to establish is
whether SR (to a pre-update checkpoint) IS an option, i.e. will it remove
the update? There are so many conflicting posts.

(a) I think most users would know to use a pre-update checkpoint.

(b) Does the update immediately reinstall (because Auto Update settings have
not been altered), or is it not removed by SR in the first place?

It may be that some users think they have removed it and they haven't. Some
use Firefox as their default browser and apparently don't get the "Choice"
window. Others suggest the only way to stop it running is with a registry
hack.

No doubt it will become clear eventually.

Thank you, Jean. I also have installing set to manual and I wish I had
done the same as you and ignored it. As it is I have done a System
Restore which got rid of it. Now it is the only one sitting in
"Windows Update".

(Sorry aboout the rude elements in the thread... Not my usual style in
front of a lady)!


message I have automatic updates off and check MS Update manually. I
carefully avoided downloading that one. On MS update it does have a
hide check box.


[Adding Windows Update newsgroup to the crosspost.]

The Browser Choice update cannot be uninstalled.
--
~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Client - since 2002

Ed O'Brien wrote:
Windows Vista Home Premium

I used to know but forget... Can someone tell me where Windows
stores newly
installed updates?

I want to uninstall the damned browser choice notice now being
presented
every time I boot.

I just wish that unelected, corrupt bunch of crooks in the EU
Commission
would butt out. It was they who forced Microsoft to punish us this
way.
Although it would also have been sensible for Microsoft to add a
'Do Not
Show Again' button.

TIA

 

[Ed O'Brien]

Can't say, I'm afraid. It took it down on my Vista and it now shows up as
ready to install. As I installed it late, I was able to establish the exact
time of day it was installed so chose the SR immediately in front of it.

Fortunately, I DID manage to avoid the "Choice" update.

You say that using System Restore got rid of it, great. However, other
posters are reporting that using SR does NOT remove it from their system
and are being advised to use a registry hack to stop it running.

Could it be that it depends on the OS whether SR works or not?

Thank you, Jean. I also have installing set to manual and I wish I had
done the same as you and ignored it. As it is I have done a System
Restore which got rid of it. Now it is the only one sitting in "Windows
Update".

(Sorry aboout the rude elements in the thread... Not my usual style in
front of a lady)!

I have automatic updates off and check MS Update manually. I carefully
avoided downloading that one. On MS update it does have a hide check box.


[Adding Windows Update newsgroup to the crosspost.]

The Browser Choice update cannot be uninstalled.
--
~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Client - since 2002

Ed O'Brien wrote:
Windows Vista Home Premium

I used to know but forget... Can someone tell me where Windows stores
newly
installed updates?

I want to uninstall the damned browser choice notice now being
presented
every time I boot.

I just wish that unelected, corrupt bunch of crooks in the EU
Commission
would butt out. It was they who forced Microsoft to punish us this
way.
Although it would also have been sensible for Microsoft to add a 'Do
Not
Show Again' button.

TIA

 

[Ed O'Brien]

I agree. This is almost certainly how it works... Being among a lot of
updates, and wanting to retain the essential ones, picking the right SR is
essential.

Fortunately, I DID manage to avoid the "Choice" update.

You say that using System Restore got rid of it, great. However, other
posters are reporting that using SR does NOT remove it from their system
and are being advised to use a registry hack to stop it running.

Could it be that it depends on the OS whether SR works or not?

Unlikely. More likely the users reporting that system restore didn't work
either (a) used a restore point after the update was installed; or (b) did
successfully remove the update, but didn't manage to stop it from being
installed again. I'm not entirely certain how automatic updates interacts
with system restore, but it's possible (depending on various factors) that
the update would be reinstalled again almost straight away.

Harry.

Thank you, Jean. I also have installing set to manual and I wish I had
done the same as you and ignored it. As it is I have done a System
Restore which got rid of it. Now it is the only one sitting in
"Windows Update".

(Sorry aboout the rude elements in the thread... Not my usual style in
front of a lady)!


message I have automatic updates off and check MS Update manually. I
carefully avoided downloading that one. On MS update it does have a
hide check box.


[Adding Windows Update newsgroup to the crosspost.]

The Browser Choice update cannot be uninstalled.
--
~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Client - since 2002

Ed O'Brien wrote:
Windows Vista Home Premium

I used to know but forget... Can someone tell me where Windows
stores newly
installed updates?

I want to uninstall the damned browser choice notice now being
presented
every time I boot.

I just wish that unelected, corrupt bunch of crooks in the EU
Commission
would butt out. It was they who forced Microsoft to punish us this
way.
Although it would also have been sensible for Microsoft to add a
'Do Not
Show Again' button.

TIA

 

[Ed O'Brien]

Thanks for that... I omitted to use that option before I Restored. It would
sure save a lot of hassle.

 

[Ed O'Brien]

Thanks for this, MowGreen. I had heard about this option but never looked
deeply for it as it is not that obvious to the user. It's not quite as you
describe for my OS, but you have made me go back and look a bit deeper. It
is easy after all - once you know how. Opening WU, select the update/s and
in the next window, right click the update/s you don't want and select "Hide
Update".

Knowledge I will keep for the rest of my life thanks to you.

Hide it by clicking the update icon and UNchecking the box next to it.
Click OK, then in the next window that opens put a check in the box next
to " Do not offer me this (these) update(s) again or I'll kill
you " or some similar verbiage to that effect. <w>


MowGreen
================
*-343-* FDNY
Never Forgotten
================

banthecheck.com
"Security updates should *never* have *non-security content* prechecked

Thank you, Jean. I also have installing set to manual and I wish I had
done the same as you and ignored it. As it is I have done a System
Restore which got rid of it. Now it is the only one sitting in "Windows
Update".

(Sorry aboout the rude elements in the thread... Not my usual style in
front of a lady)!

I have automatic updates off and check MS Update manually. I carefully
avoided downloading that one. On MS update it does have a hide check
box.


[Adding Windows Update newsgroup to the crosspost.]

The Browser Choice update cannot be uninstalled.
--
~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Client - since 2002

Ed O'Brien wrote:
Windows Vista Home Premium

I used to know but forget... Can someone tell me where Windows
stores newly
installed updates?

I want to uninstall the damned browser choice notice now being
presented
every time I boot.

I just wish that unelected, corrupt bunch of crooks in the EU
Commission
would butt out. It was they who forced Microsoft to punish us this
way.
Although it would also have been sensible for Microsoft to add a 'Do
Not
Show Again' button.

TIA

 

[Guest]

In Administrative Tools choose Reliability and Performance Monitor and
choose MonitoringTools then Reliability Monitor (type Reliability in search
on Start) . This list is a chart of software installs, uninstalls, Windows
updates, and crashes by date.

--
..
--

I agree. This is almost certainly how it works... Being among a lot of
updates, and wanting to retain the essential ones, picking the right SR is
essential.

Fortunately, I DID manage to avoid the "Choice" update.

You say that using System Restore got rid of it, great. However, other
posters are reporting that using SR does NOT remove it from their system
and are being advised to use a registry hack to stop it running.

Could it be that it depends on the OS whether SR works or not?

Unlikely. More likely the users reporting that system restore didn't
work either (a) used a restore point after the update was installed; or
(b) did successfully remove the update, but didn't manage to stop it from
being installed again. I'm not entirely certain how automatic updates
interacts with system restore, but it's possible (depending on various
factors) that the update would be reinstalled again almost straight away.

Harry.

Thank you, Jean. I also have installing set to manual and I wish I had
done the same as you and ignored it. As it is I have done a System
Restore which got rid of it. Now it is the only one sitting in
"Windows Update".

(Sorry aboout the rude elements in the thread... Not my usual style in
front of a lady)!


message I have automatic updates off and check MS Update manually. I
carefully avoided downloading that one. On MS update it does have a
hide check box.


[Adding Windows Update newsgroup to the crosspost.]

The Browser Choice update cannot be uninstalled.
--
~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Client - since 2002

Ed O'Brien wrote:
Windows Vista Home Premium

I used to know but forget... Can someone tell me where Windows
stores newly
installed updates?

I want to uninstall the damned browser choice notice now being
presented
every time I boot.

I just wish that unelected, corrupt bunch of crooks in the EU
Commission
would butt out. It was they who forced Microsoft to punish us this
way.
Although it would also have been sensible for Microsoft to add a
'Do Not
Show Again' button.

TIA

 

[Ed O'Brien]

Thanks for htis. This is a brilliant tool which I knew nothing about.

In Administrative Tools choose Reliability and Performance Monitor and
choose MonitoringTools then Reliability Monitor (type Reliability in
search
on Start) . This list is a chart of software installs, uninstalls, Windows
updates, and crashes by date.

--
.
--

I agree. This is almost certainly how it works... Being among a lot of
updates, and wanting to retain the essential ones, picking the right SR is
essential.

On 2010-02-28 8:37 p.m., Smirnoff wrote:

Fortunately, I DID manage to avoid the "Choice" update.

You say that using System Restore got rid of it, great. However, other
posters are reporting that using SR does NOT remove it from their
system
and are being advised to use a registry hack to stop it running.

Could it be that it depends on the OS whether SR works or not?

Unlikely. More likely the users reporting that system restore didn't
work either (a) used a restore point after the update was installed; or
(b) did successfully remove the update, but didn't manage to stop it
from being installed again. I'm not entirely certain how automatic
updates interacts with system restore, but it's possible (depending on
various factors) that the update would be reinstalled again almost
straight away.

Harry.



Thank you, Jean. I also have installing set to manual and I wish I had
done the same as you and ignored it. As it is I have done a System
Restore which got rid of it. Now it is the only one sitting in
"Windows Update".

(Sorry aboout the rude elements in the thread... Not my usual style in
front of a lady)!


message I have automatic updates off and check MS Update manually. I
carefully avoided downloading that one. On MS update it does have a
hide check box.


[Adding Windows Update newsgroup to the crosspost.]

The Browser Choice update cannot be uninstalled.
--
~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Client - since 2002

Ed O'Brien wrote:
Windows Vista Home Premium

I used to know but forget... Can someone tell me where Windows
stores newly
installed updates?

I want to uninstall the damned browser choice notice now being
presented
every time I boot.

I just wish that unelected, corrupt bunch of crooks in the EU
Commission
would butt out. It was they who forced Microsoft to punish us this
way.
Although it would also have been sensible for Microsoft to add a
'Do Not
Show Again' button.

TIA

 

[John Smith]

Hmm... how about http://www.herbisoft.com/products/nobrowserchoice/

JS

 

[Twayne]

In

Hmm... how about http://www.herbisoft.com/products/nobrowserchoice/

JS

You will find the actual updates are stored in the temp files area but are
normally deleted when the update completes and the machine restarts.

As for disk storage, the new/old information is all saved to the same place,
namely C:\windows\, in the form of un-installers for the updates.

In c:\windows\ you'll find the complete list of un-installers for each
update that has been applied to your system. If it isn't listed there and
you haven't man ually deleted it, then it's not installed. If you know the
date of the update, it's not too hard to find the specific piece you want to
uninstall.
Also, Control Panel's Add or Remove Software choice will list all the
updates too as long as the "show updates" box is ticked. Without the tick,
you don't see them there.

You will also find KB references in the windows folder so you can get
specific and more detailed information about the update. It's a good idea
to check those becasue sometimes there are dependencies to or from them.

HTH,

Twayne

 

[Ed O'Brien]

Thanks, John. I'm not needing right now but some visitors might find it
useful.

 

[Ed O'Brien]

Thanks, Twayne. I'll be following your advice.

In

You will find the actual updates are stored in the temp files area but are
normally deleted when the update completes and the machine restarts.

As for disk storage, the new/old information is all saved to the same
place, namely C:\windows\, in the form of un-installers for the updates.

In c:\windows\ you'll find the complete list of un-installers for each
update that has been applied to your system. If it isn't listed there and
you haven't man ually deleted it, then it's not installed. If you know
the date of the update, it's not too hard to find the specific piece you
want to uninstall.
Also, Control Panel's Add or Remove Software choice will list all the
updates too as long as the "show updates" box is ticked. Without the
tick, you don't see them there.

You will also find KB references in the windows folder so you can get
specific and more detailed information about the update. It's a good idea
to check those becasue sometimes there are dependencies to or from them.

HTH,

Twayne

 

[Rob]

Thanks for that clue. For the record, if you've opted for it the
BrowserChoice registry key is located at:

HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Run

Why is this program running at every boot? It should run only once
for each new user.

And why does this program pop up its nag screen every time it runs?
It should not do this once a selection has been made.

Apparently the program is bad and buggy. Is Microsoft going to fix that?

Don't point to the EU. The EU did not ask for a bad and buggy implementation
of their directive.

 

[PA Bear [MS MVP]]

Rob wrote:

Why is this program running at every boot? It should run only once
for each new user.

There can be only one (1) default Browser in any version of Windows.

 

[Rob]

Rob wrote:


There can be only one (1) default Browser in any version of Windows.

Except Vista or Windows 7.

 

[Tim Slattery]

Except Vista or Windows 7.

Huh? There may be several installed, but only one can be the default
at any time. It's easy to switch that designation among the browsers
you have installed.

 

[Rob]

Huh? There may be several installed, but only one can be the default
at any time. It's easy to switch that designation among the browsers
you have installed.

In Vista or Windows 7 each user can have a different default browser.

 

[Gordon]

Huh? There may be several installed, but only one can be the default
at any time. It's easy to switch that designation among the browsers
you have installed.

Actually not quite true.
You can have a different default browser for each user:

http://windowsxp.mvps.org/defaultbrowser.htm