Boot to XP Pro from CD?

D

D.Currie

Tosca said:
I see. I was under the impression that I could buy an XP Pro installation
disc and use it to, for instance, copy any corrupt files to my laptop which
has Sony's OEM version of XP Pro (with any extras that they maight have
added). I also thought that I could use the XP Pro installation disc to
load Recovery Console which Sony have decided to keep away from me.

I am willing to purchase the XP Pro installation disc (cost around £230)
if that would help me but I also need to retain the Sony XP Pro that came
preinstalled because I suspect that Sony won't offer any support whilst
the laptop isn't running their software.

I'm starting to ask myself "why, oh why, do manufacturers install their
version of XP Pro rather than supply a standard version that would make
users' lives easier in these circumstances?"!

It's cheaper. If the only thing their customer support has to say is "put in
your recovery disk and restore it to the original" they don't need to pay
for techs who might actually help, and they cut down on the time spent on
the phone.
 
T

Tosca

<VBG> It strikes me that I actually may need their help at some time for a
hardware problem. I know that there are very many knowledgeable folks who
contribute here and, together, I'm sure that we could crack many OS
problems. Unfortunately that wouldn't help if I needed to return the laptop
for Sony to replace some hardware (assuming that it's covered by the
warranty)!
 
H

Hoppy

D.Currie wrote on Sun, 2 Oct 2005 11:53:41 -0600:

D> ??>> I see. I was under the impression that I could buy an XP Pro
??>> installation disc and use it to, for instance, copy any corrupt files
??>> to my laptop which has Sony's OEM version of XP Pro (with any extras
??>> that they maight have added). I also thought that I could use the XP
??>> Pro installation disc to load Recovery Console which Sony have decided
??>> to keep away from me.
??>>
??>> I am willing to purchase the XP Pro installation disc (cost around
??>> £230) if that would help me but I also need to retain the Sony XP Pro
??>> that came preinstalled because I suspect that Sony won't offer any
??>> support whilst the laptop isn't running their software.
??>>
??>> I'm starting to ask myself "why, oh why, do manufacturers install
??>> their version of XP Pro rather than supply a standard version that
??>> would make users' lives easier in these circumstances?"!


You may want to look into Barts PEBuilder :
http://www.nu2.nu/pebuilder/
It's a pretty amazing program which I just used to build an autoboot XP
recovery disk. It sounds like it may allow you to build yourself a CD
tailored with your Sony OS .... assuming you have your setup files
available.

Your problem is precisely why I would never again buy an assembled PC. Each
manufacturer uses proprietary hardware and software: their mobos, video
cards, drivers, etc., etc., are made how each builder sees fit.

Good luck. HTH.
 
T

Tosca

Thanks Hoppy. The disc which came with the laptop is, so far as I'm aware,
a recovery disc of some sort, rather than a retail XP Pro. I don't know if
I could use this with Barts PEBuilder.

So far as buying an assembled PC, I guess it's easy for someone with a bit
of knowledge to build a desktop but it's not so easy to build a laptop from
scratch, is it? I don't have a desktop and have always relied upon a laptop
so I don't really know any better than to accept whatever the manufacturer
"throws" at me! I'm getting more and more inclined to do a full backup of
my files now and then install a retail XP Pro. I know that the whole
process (including setting up wireless, installing programs, configuring
etc.) will probably take a couple of days but I may just take the plunge.
An alternative would be to get a professional to do it but that will cost
and I won't gain the experience or satisfaction from doing it for myself.
 
H

Hoppy

Hi Tosca --

I missed the beginning of this thread so I may have led you astray; I'm not
really clear as to what it is you are trying to accomplish. Bart's PE may
still help if you're looking for some kind of recovery CD.

....and YES, DEFINITELY I agree -- no way with these eyes and meathooks would
I ever consider building a laptop. Sorry; I meant to mention that in my
original post.

If you're looking to recover corrupted files, wouldn't your recovery CD do
that when you attempted to re-install XP? I've only done an OS re-install
once (Win98, I think). I rely on my backup images (via Drive Image/Norton
Ghost) to save my hide when I get a bit too playful. You're probably better
off using the Sony CD rather than XP retail anyway.
--
Hoppy
(e-mail address removed)
~~
Tosca wrote on Mon, 3 Oct 2005 19:47:57 +0100:

T> So far as buying an assembled PC, I guess it's easy for someone with a
T> bit of knowledge to build a desktop but it's not so easy to build a
T> laptop from scratch, is it? I don't have a desktop and have always
T> relied upon a laptop so I don't really know any better than to accept
T> whatever the manufacturer "throws" at me! I'm getting more and more
T> inclined to do a full backup of my files now and then install a retail
T> XP Pro. I know that the whole process (including setting up wireless,
T> installing programs, configuring etc.) will probably take a couple of
T> days but I may just take the plunge. An alternative would be to get a
T> professional to do it but that will cost and I won't gain the experience
T> or satisfaction from doing it for myself.

T>
??>> You may want to look into Barts PEBuilder :
??>> http://www.nu2.nu/pebuilder/
??>> It's a pretty amazing program which I just used to build an autoboot
??>> XP recovery disk. It sounds like it may allow you to build yourself a
??>> CD tailored with your Sony OS .... assuming you have your setup files
??>> available.
??>>
??>> Your problem is precisely why I would never again buy an assembled PC.
??>> Each manufacturer uses proprietary hardware and software: their mobos,
??>> video cards, drivers, etc., etc., are made how each builder sees fit.
??>>
??>> Good luck. HTH.
??>> --
??>> Hoppy
??>> (e-mail address removed)
??>> ~~
 
T

Tosca

Hi Hoppy

It's certainly turned out to be a long thread and I'm grateful to all
contributors who have improved my knowledge base.

I don't know if the Sony CD would recover any corrupted files (the laptop is
working fine but I just want to have a "B" and "C" plan for if/when it
fails) and I'm a bit timid to put it into the CD drawer, just in case! I
suppose I could do a system backup then try and see what happens. I like
your comment about saving your hide when you get a bit too playful! I guess
it's like delving in the registry and doing the "oops" manoeuvre. You're
just SOOO happy that you backed up the registry before you got itchy
fingers.

I know that the Sony CD comes with goodies such as DVD writing software but
I could get something else (maybe Nero or Roxio?) if I do decide to go down
the retail XP Pro route.

Tosca
 
H

Hoppy

You should definitely look into Norton Ghost. If your machine ever decides
to take a trip south, the bootable CD lets you restore whatever good image
you (hopefully) remembered to save. You'll be up and running in 10 minues
(depending on the size of your HDD) like nothing happened. ...won't hardly
even need Plan B & C. ;-P 10-4
--
Hoppy
(e-mail address removed)
~~

Tosca wrote on Tue, 4 Oct 2005 00:09:52 +0100:

T> It's certainly turned out to be a long thread and I'm grateful to all
T> contributors who have improved my knowledge base.

T> I don't know if the Sony CD would recover any corrupted files (the
T> laptop is working fine but I just want to have a "B" and "C" plan for
T> if/when it fails) and I'm a bit timid to put it into the CD drawer, just
T> in case! I suppose I could do a system backup then try and see what
T> happens. I like your comment about saving your hide when you get a bit
T> too playful! I guess it's like delving in the registry and doing the
T> "oops" manoeuvre. You're just SOOO happy that you backed up the
T> registry before you got itchy fingers.

T> I know that the Sony CD comes with goodies such as DVD writing software
T> but I could get something else (maybe Nero or Roxio?) if I do decide to
T> go down the retail XP Pro route.

T> Tosca

T> "Hoppy" wrote:
T> ??>> Hi Tosca --
??>>
??>> I missed the beginning of this thread so I may have led you astray;
??>> I'm not really clear as to what it is you are trying to accomplish.
??>> Bart's PE may still help if you're looking for some kind of recovery
??>> CD.
??>>
??>> ...and YES, DEFINITELY I agree -- no way with these eyes and meathooks
??>> would I ever consider building a laptop. Sorry; I meant to mention
??>> that in my original post.
??>>
??>> If you're looking to recover corrupted files, wouldn't your recovery
??>> CD do that when you attempted to re-install XP? I've only done an OS
??>> re-install once (Win98, I think). I rely on my backup images (via
??>> Drive Image/Norton Ghost) to save my hide when I get a bit too
??>> playful. You're probably better off using the Sony CD rather than XP
??>> retail
??>> anyway. -- Hoppy (e-mail address removed) ~~ Tosca
??>> wrote on Mon, 3 Oct 2005 19:47:57 +0100:
??>>
T>>> So far as buying an assembled PC, I guess it's easy for someone with a
T>>> bit of knowledge to build a desktop but it's not so easy to build a
T>>> laptop from scratch, is it? I don't have a desktop and have always
T>>> relied upon a laptop so I don't really know any better than to accept
T>>> whatever the manufacturer "throws" at me! I'm getting more and more
T>>> inclined to do a full backup of my files now and then install a retail
T>>> XP Pro. I know that the whole process (including setting up wireless,
T>>> installing programs, configuring etc.) will probably take a couple of
T>>> days but I may just take the plunge. An alternative would be to get a
T>>> professional to do it but that will cost and I won't gain the
??>> experience
T>>> or satisfaction from doing it for myself.
??>>
T>>> "Hoppy" wrote:
T>>> ??>>
??>>>> You may want to look into Barts PEBuilder :
??>>>> http://www.nu2.nu/pebuilder/
??>>>> It's a pretty amazing program which I just used to build an autoboot
??>>>> XP recovery disk. It sounds like it may allow you to build yourself

??>> a
??>>>> CD tailored with your Sony OS .... assuming you have your setup
??>>>> files available.
??>>>>
??>>>> Your problem is precisely why I would never again buy an assembled
??>> PC.
??>>>> Each manufacturer uses proprietary hardware and software: their
??>> mobos,
??>>>> video cards, drivers, etc., etc., are made how each builder sees
??>>>> fit.
??>>>>
??>>>> Good luck. HTH.
??>>>> --
??>>>> Hoppy
??>>>> (e-mail address removed)
??>>>> ~~
??>>
 
T

Tosca

Thank you. I've seen similar comments about this software so I'm inclined
to look into it further.
 

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