Blank Screen With DVI

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Barry Watzman

I have never seen an LCD monitor with a DVI connection that did not also
have a VGA connection. I'm not saying that such a display might not
exist, but I have not seen one. I have, however, seen a very few in
which while both Digital and analog inputs existed, they were both
embedded in the DVI-I connector (not common on a display device, but
conceptually possible). The manufacturer, in those cases, expected you
to use a different cable (or a DVI to VGA connector adapter) to access
the analog VGA port. However, with a splitter, both could be connected
simultaneously, although it's possible that in such a configuration,
they would not both work.


Custom said:
Barry said:
The motherboard bios has no part in this ... the setup of a plug-in AGP
or PCI Express video card is handled entirely by the bios on the video
card. There is a "conversation" between the video card and the attached
monitor over the DDC (display data channel ... basically, a serial port
that is part of the DVI connection) wherein they exchange information
about what resolutions and refresh rates they each support. When the
display fails to work, it's either because this conversation failed
entirely (the programming of the DDC port and/or the details of the
message exchange was incompatible), or because there was no combination
of resolution / refresh rates / other timing parameters that was common
to both the video card and the monitor.

On most video cards, there is an attempt to conduct this exchange
between the card and the monitor once only, at power up, and if it fails
then (in particular if the monitor is not connected or not powered), the
DVI port isn't initialized at all and subsequent connection won't be
successful without a reboot. But some display cards may reattempt this
process periodcially.

The firmware in the display card (the card's bios) is somewhat space
constrained, and the windows drivers have more space (as much as they
need, really) to support a much wider variety of display modes than the
video bios. Also, the Windows drivers are more "fluid" in that they can
be revised while the display card's bios is frozen unless the
manufacturer wants to make display firmware upgrades available (and
generally, ATI doesn't seem to do this, in fact almost seems to have a
policy against it). Thus, after the card is shipping if it's discovered
that a particular display doesn't work, the video driver may be easily
revised do add whatever support is necessary. The firmware might be
revisable also (if space permits), but getting the revision installed
would require a firmware upgrade, and, again, ATI at least seems to have
a policy against firmware upgrades to their video cards.


It's not just ATI you won't find firmware updates for nVidia cards
either. To me this problem is no big deal. I just keep one VGA LCD on
hand for setting up new systems, just as I do for keyboards and mouse
since not all motherboards will see a USB keyboard or mouse till you
can get into the BIOS so you need the good ole wired units to start
with. My normal use LCD doesn't have a VGA connection, its strickly
DVI, just like my video output on my computer is only DVI but it came
with a VGA adapter to work with older monitors.
[I'm a degreed engineer and have been a product manager for LCD monitor
displays]

Re: "I disconnected the VGA monitor and then plugged in the DVI monitor.
Powered on the DVI monitor and it comes up with blue screen for 5 to 10
seconds then shows the desktop"

That is an unusual/uncommon outcome.
Not necessarily unusual as that is how my system works.
Also don't forget that the motherboard BIOS can play a part in this problem.
 
F

First of One

This is not a "problem", just an inconvenience. There's no need to look at
anything prior to the welcome screen, except the odd times when you need to
fiddle with a BIOS setting or reinstall Windows. You can always switch over
to the VGA cable to accomplish those tasks, then switch back to DVI after.
 
J

Jane

What about doing error checking ............you can't see what's happening.
Or using safe mode and other stuff like that. It's more than just an
incovenience.
 

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