Best newsgroup to ask questions about software that isn't freeware?

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I'm looking for a newsgroup where I can ask a question about software that
isn't freeware or shareware. Any suggestions?
 
there are various opensource and commercial ng's

Michael said:
I'm looking for a newsgroup where I can ask a question about software that
isn't freeware or shareware. Any suggestions?


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Michael said:
I'm looking for a newsgroup where I can ask a question about software that
isn't freeware or shareware. Any suggestions?

Many commercial programs have their own forums and/or newsgroups.

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Frank Bohan
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Frank Bohan said:
Many commercial programs have their own forums and/or newsgroups.

I'm looking for the best compression software out there. I don't know how
much you can compress a file. But, I'm looking for the one that makes the
files the smallest. Tried 7-zip and it make the files small enough. I'd
like something that can make large files compressed into smaller files. I
don't care if it is free or paid, I just need something that will compress
large files into something much smaller. If such software exists.
 
I'm looking for the best compression software out there. I don't know how
much you can compress a file. But, I'm looking for the one that makes the
files the smallest. Tried 7-zip and it make the files small enough. I'd
like something that can make large files compressed into smaller files. I
don't care if it is free or paid, I just need something that will compress
large files into something much smaller. If such software exists.

For that type of question, I'd recommend 24hoursupport.helpdesk
because the group is very active and the question is is really a
general one on computers (how can I get maximum file compression)
rather than a matter of freeware/shareware/commercial software.

(FWIW, I looked at alt.comp.software, but it has little or no
activity, and there are a few groups with "compression" in the title,
but they seemed to be pretty deserted as well. A Google group search
on the phrase "compress large files" had 118 hits, most of which are
several years old, and at first glance, didn't seem to be what you're
looking for.)
 
Michael said:
I'm looking for the best compression software out there. I don't know how
much you can compress a file. But, I'm looking for the one that makes the
files the smallest. Tried 7-zip and it make the files small enough. I'd
like something that can make large files compressed into smaller files. I
don't care if it is free or paid, I just need something that will compress
large files into something much smaller. If such software exists.
Probably the bzip2 algorithm, properly tuned, is what you are looking
for, <http://www.bzip.org>

Cheers,
Gary B-)
 
I'm looking for the best compression software out there. I don't know how
much you can compress a file. But, I'm looking for the one that makes the
files the smallest. Tried 7-zip and it make the files small enough. I'd
like something that can make large files compressed into smaller files. I
don't care if it is free or paid, I just need something that will compress
large files into something much smaller. If such software exists.

I can help you with that :o)

I've tested various packers, free and not free ones, on various
filetypes, like doc, exe, dll, bmp, whatever is compressable.

You must be aware that there is a limit in compressing files
losslessly. You can't "zip" DVD and get 700MB file for transfering;
there is a big difference between two types of compression, lossless
and lossy. When archiving files, you don't really want data to be
lost, don't you? And when making xvid, mp3, you have to loose some
video and audio information so the final files only looks like and
sounds like original, but they are not, because of imperfections in
our own eyes and ears.

And you can't compress much one xvid movie, mp3 song, or jpeg picture;
they are already compressed almost to their maximum, so the gain would
be <=1%.

For various compression tests, visit these sites:

http://www.maximumcompression.com/

This is good site, although a bit crowded. You can see compression
file sets, and compression results. You will be amazed; but be aware
that most compressors used aren't really known to general public.
Probably don't even has a graphic interface, just command line.

http://web.inter.nl.net/users/hvdh/lossless/lossless.htm

Compressing audio without any loss.

Nowadays, I use 7zip; I know there are better packers out there, but
last time I checked, they were all very close in results. And it's
handy and free. And supported in most packing programs for unpacking.

Ivan.

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On Sun, 19 Feb 2006 19:19:57 -0500, "Michael"
<[email protected]>
mysteriously appeared thru the usenet mist to inform us thus...

[snip]
I'm looking for the best compression software out there. I don't know how
much you can compress a file. But, I'm looking for the one that makes the
files the smallest. Tried 7-zip and it make the files small enough. I'd
like something that can make large files compressed into smaller files. I
don't care if it is free or paid, I just need something that will compress
large files into something much smaller. If such software exists.

FWIW on compression, I find that compressing into .cab format
produces smaller files than .zip (5-10% smaller) but it depends on the
file type to begin with (eg .jpg won't compress much). The downside
is that it can take considerably longer to produce a .cab than .zip.
I use PowerAchiver to create/open mine but there are doubtless other
free products and Windows XP comes with a built in .cab opener.
 
Ivan said:
lost, don't you? And when making xvid, mp3, you have to loose some
video and audio information so the final files only looks like and
sounds like original, but they are not, because of imperfections in
our own eyes and ears.

Grin.
It seems, there are only a few with that imperfection.

I prefer a lossless compression. E.g. Compact Disc Audio.

Lossy compression is MP3. (though some instruments are totally
uncompatible to - {more grin})
Nowadays, I use 7zip; I know there are better packers out there, but
last time I checked, they were all very close in results. And it's
handy and free. And supported in most packing programs for unpacking.

Ivan.




Best Regards,

Daniel Mandic
 
[SNIP]
Just remembered a trick that has been known in the *NIX world for ever,
but frequently ignored in the peecee world.

If you are "packing" up a bunch of files into a single archive, you can
often do better by first of all archiving them with 0% compression, and
then packing that file.

For example:
archive -nocompress archive1.out file1 file2 file3 ...
archive -supercompresss archive.out archive1.out

Cheers,
Gary B-)
 
Michael said:
I'm looking for a newsgroup where I can ask a question about software that
isn't freeware or shareware. Any suggestions?

Probably comp.software-eng. However, there are a few groups that include
the type of software they discuss in their names. For instance:

alt.video.dvd.software
alt.backup-software

As Frank Bohan says, many commercial programs have their own forums and
newsgroups. You should look in their help files or the "About..." part
under that same menu for locations of such discussion groups.

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adware, cdware, commercial software, crippleware, demoware, nagware,
PROmotionware, shareware, spyware, time-limited software, trialware,
viruses or warez for me, please.
 
If you are "packing" up a bunch of files into a single archive, you can
often do better by first of all archiving them with 0% compression, and
then packing that file.

That became obsolete when packers introduced "solid" compression;
grouping filetypes by extension and then applying compression routine
that suits best for the specified filetype in that specified archive.

But sure was useful in a days of tar.gz :o)

Ivan.

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