Best freeware alternative to Paint Shop Pro?

[Blinky the Shark]

On Sat, 13 Sep 2003 06:43:25 -0700, John Corliss

John, the AU Pcuser mag does not make the CDs available for download
or sale separately. To get a desired CD you have to order the mag
from their back issue page (the mag is not available in US).

Right. So it's still not freeware. That's the point.

 

[John Corliss]

John,
Since when has the definition of freeware included "must be available on
the internet?" (clipped)

Sorry Gary, but you've opened an old can of worms. This group
discussed and voted on exactly this issue a couple of years ago.
CDWare is not freeware unless it's available to everybody on the
internet. Also, it's not freeware because you have to buy the CD with
the magazine. Here is the post with the vote results which you can
easily verify by doing a Google usenet search:
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To the question "Should programs which are *only available* on CDs which
accompany magazines (CDware?) be recommended as freeware solutions to
software needs in this group?" the following results:

NO - 53
YES - 6

I will modify my version of the F.A.Q. accordingly.
Thanks again to everybody who voted.

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[Paul]

Then *you* have your free software on CD.
*We* do not have access to that freeware online.

Just because you don't have the mag overseas doesn't stop the app being
freeware for us over here. No doubt Jasc will release it free for you
guys in the long run, too.

 

[John Fitzsimons]

How do we get it for *free*? You're suggesting we steal the magazine?

< snip >

Hey ! You guys aren't just ANTI-AUSTRALIAN are you ? I mean, after all
that we have done for you.......

http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/common/story_page/0,5744,6792063%5E12272,00.html

Warning - you might need to be Australian to fully "appreciate" the
link.

Regards, John.

 

[Blinky the Shark]

Boomer wrote:

Just because you don't have the mag overseas doesn't stop the app being
freeware for us over here. No doubt Jasc will release it free for you
guys in the long run, too.

And this is australia.comp.freeware, right?

Wrong.

At any rate, it's not freeware by the group definition, whether or not
we have it here.

So, wrong again.

 

[Paul]

And this is australia.comp.freeware, right?

Point taken. Sorry for bringing it all up.

 

[John Latter]

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You can get PhotoPlus 5.5 at http://www.freeserifsoftware.com/
Registration Key (which you need to activate your product): 479329

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You can get PhotoPlus 6 (free) instead of version 5 from the following
site. I have downloaded it, no problems at all. However, it is 19MB

http://www.sandylee.net/webhosting/tools.html#software

Installation#: 1142366851
Code: PHP001
Your registration key is: 94021

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Pixia ver. 2.8 is also now available as freeware at
http://www.ab.wakwak.com/~knight/

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Thankyou for the links Whayface!

I downloaded & installed PPlus6 - do I have to register it or will it
'time out' after a trial period if I don't?

Jorolat

 

[M.L.]

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Really .. this is kinda like asking 'which is the best car' to substitute
for a Ford?

It all depends on what you intend to accomplish with it. If you are looking
for
just another paint program that has all the same functions as PSP .. why
bother?

I saw in the thread where somebody was talking about .GIF support. The PSP
version 4.14 I use (and this was freeware off the surface of a computer mag
some
time ago... [izzat free?] ) ... and it supports .GIF It does not have an
auto-enhance
feature like some other programs, however, and it does not deal with
layering.

On the other hand, except for the freeware, yet exotic GIMP and Pixel
programs,
there will be few paint programs that provide near the same features as PSP.
Ultimate Paint used to freeware, and that version can still be found.
Others still
available include MSPAINT, ZPaint, Dog Waffle, and TuxPaint... all freeware.
Dog Waffle is probably the most for freeware genre. (IMHO)

I didn't like Dogwaffle or Pixia. IMO, the only reasonable freeware
alternatives to PSP are The Gimp, and the freeware version of Serif
PhotoPlus (version 5?).

 

[Gary R. Schmidt]

John,
Since when has the definition of freeware included "must be available
on the internet?" (clipped)

Sorry Gary, but you've opened an old can of worms. This group discussed
and voted on exactly this issue a couple of years ago. CDWare is not
freeware unless it's available to everybody on the internet. Also, it's
not freeware because you have to buy the CD with the magazine. Here is
the post with the vote results which you can easily verify by doing a
Google usenet search: {SNIPped]

Fair enough. I accept the distinction that CDWare is not freeware,
(cheapWare or Magware, perhaps ), but... No, I won't risk re-opening
yet _another_ can of worms.

Cheers,
Gary B-)

 

[John Latter]

********************************

You can get PhotoPlus 5.5 at http://www.freeserifsoftware.com/
Registration Key (which you need to activate your product): 479329

********************************

You can get PhotoPlus 6 (free) instead of version 5 from the following
site. I have downloaded it, no problems at all. However, it is 19MB

http://www.sandylee.net/webhosting/tools.html#software

Installation#: 1142366851
Code: PHP001
Your registration key is: 94021

********************************

Pixia ver. 2.8 is also now available as freeware at
http://www.ab.wakwak.com/~knight/

********************************

Hi Whayface,

The registration key doesn't work - when I enter '94021' and click on
next, the box just goes blank and nothing happens. Any idea what the
problem is please?

 

[John Latter]

Hi Whayface,

The registration key doesn't work - when I enter '94021' and click on
next, the box just goes blank and nothing happens. Any idea what the
problem is please?

Oops - I've just seen that I have to make a phone call to get the
registration number!

I just wish I would actually READ things once in a while 'sigh'

 

[Narmer]

Hi Whayface,

The registration key doesn't work - when I enter '94021' and click on
next, the box just goes blank and nothing happens. Any idea what the
problem is please?

Every time you install the programme you'll have to register it at
Serif webpage (you have to provide a real email address). Every time
they'll send you a different password. A little bit annoying... but
it's a nice editor.

 

[John Latter]

Every time you install the programme you'll have to register it at
Serif webpage (you have to provide a real email address). Every time
they'll send you a different password. A little bit annoying... but
it's a nice editor.

Hi Narmer,

This is PPlus6 while Serif only offer PPlus 5.5 on their website:

http://www.freeserifsoftware.com/products.asp

I downloaded 5.5 a few days ago & got the key by email but can find
nothing on their site regrading version 6!

 

[Narmer]

Hi Narmer,

This is PPlus6 while Serif only offer PPlus 5.5 on their website:

http://www.freeserifsoftware.com/products.asp

I downloaded 5.5 a few days ago & got the key by email but can find
nothing on their site regrading version 6!

Try this link:

http://www.serif.com/support/registration.asp

I used to use PhotoPlus 6 a year ago and I could register it at the
link above (now I've got a free copy of PSP 5 from a magazine.... OT
in this newsgroup).

PhotoPlus 6 is better than 5.5 because you can use some (not all,
unfortunately) Photoshop-compatible filters (plug-ins). You can find
a lot of them (that are free, of course) here:

http://www.thepluginsite.com/resources/index.htm

Narme

 

[Blinky the Shark]

Fair enough. I accept the distinction that CDWare is not freeware,
(cheapWare or Magware, perhaps ), but... No, I won't risk re-opening

Actually, the terms cheapware and magware have been tossed about in
here, already. There's nothing new under the sun.

 

[John Latter]

Try this link:

http://www.serif.com/support/registration.asp

I used to use PhotoPlus 6 a year ago and I could register it at the
link above (now I've got a free copy of PSP 5 from a magazine.... OT
in this newsgroup).

PhotoPlus 6 is better than 5.5 because you can use some (not all,
unfortunately) Photoshop-compatible filters (plug-ins). You can find
a lot of them (that are free, of course) here:

http://www.thepluginsite.com/resources/index.htm

Narme

It worked - thanks Narmer

And thankyou for the link to the plugins - though it may be a while
before I'm competent enough to make use of them!

 

[Chaos]

< snip >

Hey ! You guys aren't just ANTI-AUSTRALIAN are you ? I mean, after all
that we have done for you.......

http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/common/story_page/0,5744,6792063%5E12272,00.html

Warning - you might need to be Australian to fully "appreciate" the
link.

Regards, John.

Liked it

Chaos