backups to CD

[Dan]

hi, have run into a wall, backup apps that save permissions, whether you
asked to save permissions or not.. pretty devastating?

would rather skip the permissions thing all together. when pc get trashed
am re-installing operating system, but my backup files won't install because
of permissions, then application corrupts my backups... give up

is there an X-COPY that still works / spans cd's ?
thanks

 

[EN59CVH]

What exactly is the problem? I don't get asked about permissions!
Perhaps you need to use the right tool for backups!

hth

 

[Patrick Keenan]

hi, have run into a wall, backup apps that save permissions, whether you
asked to save permissions or not.. pretty devastating?

would rather skip the permissions thing all together. when pc get trashed
am re-installing operating system, but my backup files won't install
because
of permissions, then application corrupts my backups... give up

is there an X-COPY that still works / spans cd's ?
thanks

What is the app you are using?

If your backups are on read-only optical media, the restoration process can
not corrupt the backup itself. It is possible that the backup was not
valid in the first place, rendering it useless.

Xcopy isn't really much good for backups. It's slow and prone to giving up
on errors.

Use an application that's built for this purpose, such as TrueImage.

HTH
-pk

 

[Dan]

hi, thanks for the response. I don't know if both will get this response so
don't have to post twice. will try to be brief:

- bump "back up my pc" app known to corrupt disks so restores don't work
(called / worked with bump techs on couple of restore).

(recommend don't use bump..) having gone from old dos? backup-restore that
allowed: self-contained commands in small files that "SPANNED" multiple
disks; did not require front or rear-end file "name TABLES" that cause
corruptions, enterprise etc.. sorry,

conversely, (1 user / home pc new install of OS; need to skip permissions)
looking for simple backup method that spans cd's, does not get corrupt on
user permissions when going from 1 pc to same pc, new OS install.

not familiar with backup - restore
Summary:
- need know how to backup-restore user files, skipping user permission
garbage.
- must be able to span disks (cd's)
- wouldn't care if it were unix commands if "small" backup-restore files
can be carried around with

 

[Patrick Keenan]

hi, thanks for the response. I don't know if both will get this response
so
don't have to post twice. will try to be brief:

- bump "back up my pc" app known to corrupt disks so restores don't work
(called / worked with bump techs on couple of restore).

(recommend don't use bump..) having gone from old dos? backup-restore that
allowed: self-contained commands in small files that "SPANNED" multiple
disks; did not require front or rear-end file "name TABLES" that cause
corruptions, enterprise etc.. sorry,

conversely, (1 user / home pc new install of OS; need to skip
permissions)
looking for simple backup method that spans cd's, does not get corrupt on
user permissions when going from 1 pc to same pc, new OS install.

not familiar with backup - restore
Summary:
- need know how to backup-restore user files, skipping user permission
garbage.
- must be able to span disks (cd's)
- wouldn't care if it were unix commands if "small" backup-restore files
can be carried around with

Look into Acronis True Image. There is a full-feature trial version, it's
not expensive (around US$50), it can span DVDs (don't use CDs), it can
produce bootable restore media, and it's as fast as anything else (much
faster than xcopy or similar).

There are two things you're really looking at backing up. The first is the
OS, so that you can quickly restore a working system in case of disaster.
The second is your data. Back these up separately (the OS backup will
contain your data if it is on the same paritition; not a problem); the OS
backup will only need to be refreshed when you make system changes. You
might want to get a bare hard disk for the OS backups - where I am,
terabyte-size drives are about $80 - and then consider what you're going to
back up the data to. Set the program to make 'incremental' backups, and
you will get one large initial backup and then much smaller "difference"
files.

Unfortunately, when making 'incremental' backups, TI requires the original
backup to be on the same drive, so you can't just store a 'reference' copy
on one DVD and have the increments put on another. Perhaps they will add
that feature someday, but AFAIK it isn't there now.

I use TI but there are other versions of the same kind of software. I'm
sure other posters will chime in with their suggestions; see what works best
for *you* and use that. Overall, though, imaging software is what you want
to use.

HTH
-pk

 

[Anthony Buckland]

...(don't use CDs), ...

I'll say. A mere 7 Gby will use ten of the things. Once you move
into the dozens of any media, the management burden for
keeping track of the things becomes prohibitive, and the odds
of a successful restore plummet.

I remember three generations of equipment back, still using a
backup program of the time with diskettes. I got up to over a
hundred boxes of the things, each diskette with its own stickon
label to write on. The last time I did a thought experiment on
backing up my system of that time to diskettes, I found they would
fill my not-too-modest living room to the ceiling.

 

[Greg Russell]

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have run into a wall, backup apps that save permissions, whether
you asked to save permissions or not.. pretty devastating?

Is it for you?