Backup Utility - Registry

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Michael Vaughan

Hello Everyone,

I want to make a backup of my Windows XP Registry. As per the Microsoft
website:

I have lost my Windows XP CD-ROM, is there any place I can download this
microsoft utility on the interent??? I looked all over the microsoft
website and couldn't find anything.

Any help would be appreciated,

Michael Vaughan
 
K

Ken Blake, MVP

Michael said:
Hello Everyone,

I want to make a backup of my Windows XP Registry.


The free ERUNT is a good tool for this. You can get it at
http://www.pcworld.com/downloads/file_description/0,fid,30793,00.asp

As per the
Microsoft website:


I have lost my Windows XP CD-ROM, is there any place I can download
this microsoft utility on the interent??? I looked all over the
microsoft website and couldn't find anything.



If you don't have an XP CD, you can download ntbackup.msi at
http://www.onecomputerguy.com/software/ntbackup.msi Also see
http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=302894
 
M

Michael Vaughan

Thanks Ken,

That is exactly what I was looking for!!!!!!!!!!!! Thanks a million. I
downloaded a new registry repair/organizer program, and it said that I had
1,044 errors. I didn't want to do anything until I backup' my registry.
Heard too many horror stories on registry repair programs. Thanks again!

Thanks to you also Jose!!
mv
 
K

Kerry Brown

Michael said:
Thanks Ken,

That is exactly what I was looking for!!!!!!!!!!!! Thanks a million.
I downloaded a new registry repair/organizer program, and it said
that I had 1,044 errors. I didn't want to do anything until I
backup' my registry. Heard too many horror stories on registry repair
programs. Thanks again!

Once you have a known good backup try this experiment. Run the registry
repair program and let it fix everything. Reboot and run it again. See how
many "errors" it now finds. Let it fix these "errors" reboot and run it
again. It is very likely it will keep finding more problems each time. My
experience is that most registry repair programs that find this many
"errors" actually end up causing errors by removing keys that reference or
depend other keys. If you keep running it until it doesn't find any more
errors your computer is very likely to be hosed. The better programs won't
find any more "errors" after the first pass. Even with a program that passes
this test be careful with it. Make sure you preview and approve all the
changes before you let it fix anything.
 
H

Harry Ohrn

Some registry optimizers are known to cause more problems than they cure. Be
very careful with it. If your system ends up becoming non booting then ERUNT
isn't going to be of much use to you. Just because a "registry optimizer"
says you have these "errors" doesn't mean that they will have any noticeable
affect on your system.
 
K

Ken Blake, MVP

Michael said:
Thanks Ken,

That is exactly what I was looking for!!!!!!!!!!!! Thanks a million.


You're welcome. Glad to help.


I downloaded a new registry repair/organizer program, and it said
that I had 1,044 errors. I didn't want to do anything until I
backup' my registry. Heard too many horror stories on registry repair
programs. Thanks again!


I don't recommend using registry repair programs. Those are probably not
errors, but just unused entries. They don't really hurt you, and the risk of
the program removing something you do need is greater than the chance of it
helping you in any way.

If you do use it, of course make a backup first, but I wouldn't use it at
all.
 
J

Jim Byrd

Hi Michael - In my experience all of these Reg cleaners, even the best, are
fraught with danger. I advise against using them except in one specific
instance, that is when you have one that is capable of doing specific Reg
searches, and you NEED (not just WANT) to remove the remaining traces of
something that didn't get uninstalled correctly. (and you didn't have
foresight enough to install it using Total Uninstall,
http://www.martau.com/ or free direct dwnld here:
http://digilander.libero.it/molearchive3/tun235.zip or here:
http://freeware4u.com/modules/mydownloads/singlefile.php?lid=234, in the
first place.) (As an aside, there are, however, some third party Registry
Editors which can be of great help with both the incorrect uninstall and
with certain malware problems, especially some of theCoolWebSearch types
such as the AppInit_DLLs variant of the about:blank version of CWS, for
example. I can recommend Registrar Lite, here:
http://www.answersthatwork.com/Downright_pages/downrights_registry.htm This
is intentionally the older 2.0 version - to see their most current stuff,
take a look here: http://www.resplendence.com/registrar.)

There are a couple of specific bugs that can cause abnormal growth in either
the System or Software hives; however, they are rare, and unless these hives
in %SystemRoot%\System32\config are very, very large (in the hundreds of
megabytes), then I would council you to leave your Registry alone except for
the special circumstances I mentioned above.

I and most other MVP's that I know believe that Registry modifications of
any type are probably best done manually, very carefully, with a thorough
knowledge of what's installed on your machine, and what you're doing, and
then only when necessary. There's very little (if any!) noticeable benefit
in either space saving or speed achievable by cleaning out the Registry
except in those few cases where there's a specific problem the client is
experiencing (usually uninstall or malware related in my experience) that
needs to be fixed.

Lastly, if you must screw around with your Registry, then at least get
Erunt/Erdnt, and run it before you do the Reg clean. You'll then have a
true restore available to you. Read below to see why you might not just
using the Reg cleaner's restore:

Get Erunt here for all NT-based computers including XP:
http://www.larshederer.homepage.t-online.de/erunt/ I've set it up to take a
scheduled backup each night at 12:01AM on a weekly round-robin basis, and a
Monthly on the 1st of each month. See here for how to set that up:
http://www.larshederer.homepage.t-online.de/erunt/erunt.txt, and for some
useful information about this subject.

This program is one of the best things around - saved my butt on many
occasions, and will also run very nicely from a DOS prompt (in case you've
done something that won't let you boot any more and need to revert to a
previous Registry) IF you're FAT32 OR have a DOS startup disk with NTFS
write drivers in an NTFS system. (There is also a way using the Recovery
Console to get back to being "bootable" even without separate DOS write NTFS
drivers, after which you can do a "normal" Erdnt restore.) (BTW, it also
includes a Registry defragger program). Free, and very, very highly
recommended.

FYI, quoting from the above document:

"Note: The "Export registry" function in Regedit is USELESS (!) to make a
complete backup of the registry. Neither does it export the whole registry
(for example, no information from the "SECURITY" hive is saved), nor can the
exported file be used later to replace the current registry with the old
one. Instead, if you re-import the file, it is merged with the current
registry, leaving you with an absolute mess of old and new registry keys.

FWIW, the second question I ask clients is whether they've recently used a
Reg Cleaner or tried to restore from one. (The first question I ask is
whether they've any non-commercial Norton/Symantec software installed.
)

--
Regards, Jim Byrd, MS-MVP/DTS/AH-VSOP
My Blog, Defending Your Machine, here:
http://DefendingYourMachine.blogspot.com/



|| Thanks Ken,
||
|| That is exactly what I was looking for!!!!!!!!!!!! Thanks a million. I
|| downloaded a new registry repair/organizer program, and it said that I
had
|| 1,044 errors. I didn't want to do anything until I backup' my registry.
|| Heard too many horror stories on registry repair programs. Thanks again!
||
|| Thanks to you also Jose!!
|| mv
||
|| ||| Michael Vaughan wrote:
|||
|||| Hello Everyone,
||||
|||| I want to make a backup of my Windows XP Registry.
|||
|||
||| The free ERUNT is a good tool for this. You can get it at
||| http://www.pcworld.com/downloads/file_description/0,fid,30793,00.asp
|||
|||
|||| As per the
|||| Microsoft website:
||||
|||||| The Backup utility is not included in the default installation of
|||||| Windows XP Home Edition. The Backup icon is not present on the
|||||| Start menu in Windows XP Home Edition, nor is Backup listed in Add
|||||| Remove Programs for Windows XP Home edition. This article
|||||| describes how to install Backup, which is included on the CD-ROM in
|||||| the Valueadd folder. To use Backup, you have to install it
|||||| manually. <<
||||
|||| I have lost my Windows XP CD-ROM, is there any place I can download
|||| this microsoft utility on the interent??? I looked all over the
|||| microsoft website and couldn't find anything.
|||
|||
|||
||| If you don't have an XP CD, you can download ntbackup.msi at
||| http://www.onecomputerguy.com/software/ntbackup.msi Also see
||| http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=302894
|||
|||
||| --
||| Ken Blake - Microsoft MVP Windows: Shell/User
||| Please reply to the newsgroup
 

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