automatic updates not showing on system tray, but....

[niteowl]

Hi all,

I looked through the posts looking for answers to this, and though it seems
lots of people have the same symptoms, there has been no simple good answer
yet....

I have my updates set to download but not to install without my ok, the
yellow shield appears on the system tray, but when it finishes, it
disappears. When I choose to Shut Down, the update shield is sitting on the
Shut Down option saying it will install and then shut down the machine...
though there is an option to shut down without installing the updates... I
am unable to find a way to see what updates MS wants to install.

This is happening on all of the XP Pro machines at my school... how do I
access this so I can preview what updates it wants to install and either
check or uncheck the ones I want?

thanks,
niteowl

 

[steam3801]

Hi all,

I looked through the posts looking for answers to this, and though it seems
lots of people have the same symptoms, there has been no simple good answer
yet....

I have my updates set to download but not to install without my ok, the
yellow shield appears on the system tray, but when it finishes, it
disappears. When I choose to Shut Down, the update shield is sitting on the
Shut Down option saying it will install and then shut down the machine...
though there is an option to shut down without installing the updates... I
am unable to find a way to see what updates MS wants to install.

This is happening on all of the XP Pro machines at my school... how do I
access this so I can preview what updates it wants to install and either
check or uncheck the ones I want?

Easy solution - turn updates off *ALTOGETHER*.

Take control of your machine and *YOU* decide
a) what updates to download
b) when to download them
c) when to install them.

Having said that, "all of the XP Pro machines at my school" could mean
that if the computers are networked througout the school, any Sys
Admin worth his/her salt would have this update option unavailable to
general users ... and you might not be able to control "your" machine.

 

[Larry(LJL269)]

U must be real popular with car dealers if u buy from them
using same methodology

Do ur decision making b4 expending others resources.

Just my 2¢ worth. Larry

Hi all,

I looked through the posts looking for answers to this, and though it seems
lots of people have the same symptoms, there has been no simple good answer
yet....

I have my updates set to download but not to install without my ok, the
yellow shield appears on the system tray, but when it finishes, it
disappears. When I choose to Shut Down, the update shield is sitting on the
Shut Down option saying it will install and then shut down the machine...
though there is an option to shut down without installing the updates... I
am unable to find a way to see what updates MS wants to install.

This is happening on all of the XP Pro machines at my school... how do I
access this so I can preview what updates it wants to install and either
check or uncheck the ones I want?

thanks,
niteowl

Any advise given is my attempt to show appreciation for all
the excellent help I've received here but I'm no MVP so it
may only apply NUGS (Normally, Usually, Generally, Sometimes

 

[niteowl]

Easy solution - turn updates off *ALTOGETHER*.

Take control of your machine and *YOU* decide
a) what updates to download
b) when to download them
c) when to install them.

Having said that, "all of the XP Pro machines at my school" could mean
that if the computers are networked througout the school, any Sys
Admin worth his/her salt would have this update option unavailable to
general users ... and you might not be able to control "your" machine.

well, thanks.. that might be a solution to the "problem", but not an answer
to the question... can you answer the question?

thanks,
niteowl

 

[niteowl]

Well, having them downloaded and ready to use is not a blanket acceptance of
them, I DO want final say about what goes on my machines. I already "bought
the car", so let's deal with that...

So thanks for your opinion, but, what I need is an answer to the question I
posed?

thanks,
niteowl

 

[steam3801]

well, thanks.. that might be a solution to the "problem", but not an answer
to the question... can you answer the question?

Replied and answered - you are asking (telling) MS to download the
updates and install them later - this option does NOT offer you the
choice of what updates to install, it's doing what you've set it to do
: d/load (ALL) the updates but install later. Nowhere in this option
is there any mention of you wanting to, or MS allowing you, to choose
which updates to install.

If you check any of the options available (right click My Computer ->
Properties -> Automatic Updates, none of them let you choose which
updates to install - except the last because it is all done manually.

 

[Alias]

Replied and answered - you are asking (telling) MS to download the
updates and install them later - this option does NOT offer you the
choice of what updates to install, it's doing what you've set it to do
: d/load (ALL) the updates but install later. Nowhere in this option
is there any mention of you wanting to, or MS allowing you, to choose
which updates to install.

If you check any of the options available (right click My Computer ->
Properties -> Automatic Updates, none of them let you choose which
updates to install - except the last because it is all done manually.

Really? Yesterday, AU downloaded all the updates, I chose only to
install one of two, told it not to inform me of this update again and
then merrily installed the one I wanted.

Alias

 

[steam3801]

Really? Yesterday, AU downloaded all the updates, I chose only to
install one of two, told it not to inform me of this update again and
then merrily installed the one I wanted.

But did this happen at shutdown time - or before the shutdown process.

 

[Alias]

But did this happen at shutdown time - or before the shutdown process.

Neither. Shutdown had nothing to do with it. The computer just came up
with its yellow shield and I did the updates. When requested to reboot,
I did, and haven't had a problem since.

Alias

 

[niteowl]

Really? Yesterday, AU downloaded all the updates, I chose only to install
one of two, told it not to inform me of this update again and then merrily
installed the one I wanted.

Alias

and this is how mine usually acts also.. usually being the operative word
there... the challenge I was having was the yellow shield disappeared after
the download finish (I'm assuming), and when I went to shut down, there was
a shield over the Shut Off icon, which I avoided, shutting down without
installing any updates... after 3 more reboots... the shield finally came
back to the system tray and I then chose the updates I wanted and let it
install just as you did... so the problem is no longer, but my question
still remains... if it happens again, is there a way to access the updates
in order to chose which ones to install, (the already downloaded ones of
course) THAT was the original question...

if anyone can answer THAT question, please do...

thanks,
niteowl

 

[steam3801]

Neither. Shutdown had nothing to do with it. The computer just came up
with its yellow shield and I did the updates. When requested to reboot,
I did, and haven't had a problem since.

Yes, shutdown has a lot to do with it.

Your situation : you manually intervened with the "yellow shield" and
were consequently given the options.

The OP on the other hand, simply shutdown with the yellow shield still
being displayed - MS gave no option, it just intended to install all
the updates in conjunction with the shutdown.

See the difference.?

 

[Alias]

On Thu, 11 May 2006 13:30:23 +0200, Alias
<aka@[notme]maskedandanonymous.org> - in a blinding flash of
brilliance - wrote:

steam3801 wrote:
On Thu, 11 May 2006 06:19:29 -0400, "niteowl"
<[email protected]> - in a blinding flash of brilliance -
wrote:
Replied and answered - you are asking (telling) MS to download the
updates and install them later - this option does NOT offer you the
choice of what updates to install, it's doing what you've set it to do
: d/load (ALL) the updates but install later. Nowhere in this option
is there any mention of you wanting to, or MS allowing you, to choose
which updates to install.

If you check any of the options available (right click My Computer ->
Properties -> Automatic Updates, none of them let you choose which
updates to install - except the last because it is all done manually.
Really? Yesterday, AU downloaded all the updates, I chose only to
install one of two, told it not to inform me of this update again and
then merrily installed the one I wanted.
But did this happen at shutdown time - or before the shutdown process.

Neither. Shutdown had nothing to do with it. The computer just came up
with its yellow shield and I did the updates. When requested to reboot,
I did, and haven't had a problem since.

Yes, shutdown has a lot to do with it.

Your situation : you manually intervened with the "yellow shield" and
were consequently given the options.

The OP on the other hand, simply shutdown with the yellow shield still
being displayed - MS gave no option, it just intended to install all
the updates in conjunction with the shutdown.

See the difference.?

OH. Yes, sorry.

Alias