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Doug
I keep hearing rumors that ATI is going to replace Control Panel with CCC.
Is this true? Has ATI stated when this is going to happen?
Is this true? Has ATI stated when this is going to happen?
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Rick
Doug said:
If that's true they're going to lose a lot of customers, at least
those using MS OS's. Installing the .NET framework is not
an option for millions of corporate users.
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Sleepy
Doug said:
dunno but you can always use a 3rd party program like radlinker.
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Doug
I don't understand what you mean by this Sleepy. The rumors I heard are,
that at some point in time, all ATI driver releases are going to be CCC
only -- there will be no Control Panel versions offered. Personally, if this
rumor is verified, I'm going Nvidia on my next purchase for three reasons:
a. I don't want to install any more Microcrap garbage on my PC (.Net)
b. I don't like CCC from what I've heard about it
c. Nvidia is an American company
that at some point in time, all ATI driver releases are going to be CCC
only -- there will be no Control Panel versions offered. Personally, if this
rumor is verified, I'm going Nvidia on my next purchase for three reasons:
a. I don't want to install any more Microcrap garbage on my PC (.Net)
b. I don't like CCC from what I've heard about it
c. Nvidia is an American company
C
C16
Just dont install the control panel, use another program. I agree though the
thought of CCC only is horrible, its a waste of space and such a resource
hog.
thought of CCC only is horrible, its a waste of space and such a resource
hog.
J
J. Clarke
Rick said:
Corporate users in an environment in which anybody cares whether they
install .NET framework should not be installing video drivers anyway. In
fact if the machine configuration even allows them to install drivers then
someone in IT has screwed up.
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NightSky 421
Doug said:
I hope this does not come to pass any time soon. I'm not looking to change
video cards until next year sometime (my whole computer, actually) and it
would suck to have CCC rammed down our collective throats if we don't really
want or need it. They'd better iron out the bugs fast. For now, I'm
sticking with the regular control panel as I always have.
B
Bandit
And don't forget that .NET S*** no one likes that
if they do I will not update the drivers from that time on and may
even go to a nvidea card
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schooner
And no one likes it why? Beside the typical anti MS stance some like to
take.
Most that hate .net have no clue what it even is, they just hate it for
spite.
Its a runtime library.
take.
Most that hate .net have no clue what it even is, they just hate it for
spite.
Its a runtime library.
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Looker007
schooner said:
Good point, and some games work better with it. MSCFS-III and MSFS2004
to name two. .NET has never
screwed my OS... On the plus side .NET (xml) are user modifyable, but
what do I know I've only been
working with computers since 1985.
Although I've never used the CCC but instead the CP, I don't believe the
transition will be all that
difficult..
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NightSky 421
schooner said:
Personally, I don't have a problem with .NET, but when it comes to ATI,
their "old" control panel is working fine and does everything I want it to
do. I'd rather stick with it at least until such a time as I'm not reading
so many negative posts about the CCC here and on various Internet forums.
Thankfully, the complaints aren't as numerous as before, but there's still
work to be done.
Some people may scoff at this, but I'd rather stick with an ATI card than go
back to nVidia again since I prefer ATI's drivers. I'm running two
machines, one with an ATI card and the other with an nVidia card, and I've
honestly had fewer driver issues with the ATI card.
J
J. Clarke
schooner said:
But what does it bring to the party for a control panel for a video board?
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Rick
schooner said:
Yes, a runtime library for subscription based software.
Schooner, take your head out of your ass. "Most" people
know perfectly well what .NET is all about, and that's why
they hate it. MS's vision for the future is one that prevents
end user upgradability for computer hardware, and also
phases out users from purchasing licensed software.
J
J. Clarke
Rick said:
Huh? I think you have the .NET SDK confused with Microsoft Passport or
something.
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Rick
J. Clarke said:
I think you don't know what you're talking about:
http://www.winsupersite.com/showcase/dotnet_backgrounder.asp
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Ian Oxley
I got no issue with .NET, I left it on my machine, but have swapped backschooner said:
to the Control Panel because I don't like the start-up overhead of CCC.
Further, I can't detect improvements from A.I. I agree though, let's
not bash MS just for the hell of it. People should realise that if CCC
is not to their liking, that fact is down to ATI and has nothing to do
with .NET.
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J. Clarke
Rick said:
Which is five years old and is discussing a whole slew of Microsoft
products, not just the .NET SDK. So tell us what features of the .NET SDK
"prevent end user upgradeability for computer hardware" and how it "phases
out users from purchasing licensed software".
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Rick
J. Clarke said:
What does that have to do with anything? The purpose
of .NET hasn't changed.
If you want more recent references, there's no shortage of
them. Look 'em up.
Again, not relevant. .NET is the framework necessary for
subscription-based software.
I never said .NET is intended to prevent end user hardware
upgrades. Those design specs are in a different part of MS's
roadmap. I mentioned it because the philosophy is similar
to .NET.
We're already seeing examples of it. .NET Office (as
mentioned in the link I gave), and third-party examples such
as products from Symantec, Adobe etc. E.g. CS and CS2
now install Macrovision's SafeCast. SafeCast supports
subscription enforcement as one of its four licensing options.
Adobe simply needs to flip a software switch and Photoshop,
Illustrator etc. will no longer run without calling home and
forcing users to pay a subscription fee.
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schooner
It is just the framework it runs on.
J. Clarke said:
S
schooner
Like I said, most people bashing .net have no idea what it is, they just
hate it because it is MS and think it therefore has to be evil.
hate it because it is MS and think it therefore has to be evil.