Athlon and right CPU speed?

[Tavish Muldoon]

Hello,

I have an Athlon 1700+ and ECS K755A motherboard.

When it boots up the black screen and Sisoft Sandra say the chip is an
1100 Mhz cpu. Shouldn't it be 1700 or at least higher than 1100?


SiSoftware Sandra Bios info

General Information
Manufacturer : American Megatrends Inc.
Version : 07.00T
Date : 04/02/01
Plug & Play Version : 1.00
SMBIOS/DMI Version : 2.30
(EE)PROM Size : 256kB (2Mbit)

SiSoftware Sandra CPU

Processor(s)
Model : AMD Athlon(tm) Processor
Co-Processor (FPU) : Built-in
Speed : 1.10GHz
Model Number : 1178 (estimated)
Performance Rating : PR1588 (estimated)
Type : Standard
Packaging : Socket A PGA
Multiplier : 11x
Generation : 7th (7x86)
Model Information : Duron Athlon 4/MP/XP (Thoroughbred) 1.5-2.5G+
1.5-1.65V


SiSoftware Sandra

Computer System
Manufacturer : ECS
Model : K7S5A


System Mainboard
Manufacturer : ECS
MP Support : No
Model : K7S5A
BIOS ID : 62-0120-001131-00101111-040201-SiS735



Any suggestions as to why this happening? How can I get the speed to
increase properly?

Thanks,

Tmuld.

 

[sooky grumper]

Hello,

I have an Athlon 1700+ and ECS K755A motherboard.

When it boots up the black screen and Sisoft Sandra say the chip is an
1100 Mhz cpu. Shouldn't it be 1700 or at least higher than 1100?


SiSoftware Sandra Bios info

General Information
Manufacturer : American Megatrends Inc.
Version : 07.00T
Date : 04/02/01
Plug & Play Version : 1.00
SMBIOS/DMI Version : 2.30
(EE)PROM Size : 256kB (2Mbit)

SiSoftware Sandra CPU

Processor(s)
Model : AMD Athlon(tm) Processor
Co-Processor (FPU) : Built-in
Speed : 1.10GHz
Model Number : 1178 (estimated)
Performance Rating : PR1588 (estimated)
Type : Standard
Packaging : Socket A PGA
Multiplier : 11x
Generation : 7th (7x86)
Model Information : Duron Athlon 4/MP/XP (Thoroughbred) 1.5-2.5G+
1.5-1.65V


SiSoftware Sandra

Computer System
Manufacturer : ECS
Model : K7S5A


System Mainboard
Manufacturer : ECS
MP Support : No
Model : K7S5A
BIOS ID : 62-0120-001131-00101111-040201-SiS735



Any suggestions as to why this happening? How can I get the speed to
increase properly?

Thanks,

Tmuld.

Set the FSB to 133 instead of 100

 

[jpsga]

Snooky did it again .. set up for 133MHz.
133/100*(1100)=1463 the 1700+ is rated at 1467MHz.
JPS

 

[Tavish Muldoon]

Hello!

Thanks for the help!

I went to the bios - Amibios Setup 2000


The CPU PnP Setup section

There you can modify the CPU settings - to 100/100 mhz 133/133 mhz and
166/166 mhz or a combination

What do I set it too 133/133mhz?

Thanks!

Tmuld

 

[Kevin Lawton]

| Hello!
|
| Thanks for the help!
|
| I went to the bios - Amibios Setup 2000
|
| The CPU PnP Setup section
|
| There you can modify the CPU settings - to 100/100 mhz 133/133 mhz and
| 166/166 mhz or a combination
|
| What do I set it too 133/133mhz?

I guess that the first figure you're quoting is the CPU FSB clock, and the
second is the memory clock.
Set it to 133/133 and you'll have standard XP1700 performance as per AMD's
specs.
Give it a try at 166/133 and you'll overclock the CPU and get a bit more
performance - if it won't take it then come back down to 133/133.
If you go to 166/166 then you'll be pushing the memory faster as well -
memory doesn't usually overclock as easily as CPUs do.
Kevin.

 

[sooky grumper]

Hello!

Thanks for the help!

I went to the bios - Amibios Setup 2000


The CPU PnP Setup section

There you can modify the CPU settings - to 100/100 mhz 133/133 mhz and
166/166 mhz or a combination

What do I set it too 133/133mhz?

What memory do you have in that board? IIRC that board takes both SDRAM
and DDR. If you're using PC133 SDRAM, or DDR266 or above, then 133/133
should be fine.

 

[Tavish Muldoon]

Oh crap!

I set it to 166/133 saved the setting and restarted....

Now I get now screen at all - no post sounds and cannot boot up.

I tried rebooting about 10 x - powering off then powering on - nothing
shows up on my screen


Did I just screw up by cpu and mobo?

Any idea how to get this back to normal...or is it toast?


Thanks,

Tmuld.

 

[Wes Newell]

I set it to 166/133 saved the setting and restarted....

Now I get now screen at all - no post sounds and cannot boot up.

I tried rebooting about 10 x - powering off then powering on - nothing
shows up on my screen

Did I just screw up by cpu and mobo?

I doubt it. But why 166/133? The 1700+ should be 133/133 default.

Any idea how to get this back to normal...or is it toast?

Clear cmos and reboot.

 

[sooky grumper]

Oh crap!

I set it to 166/133 saved the setting and restarted....

Now I get now screen at all - no post sounds and cannot boot up.

I tried rebooting about 10 x - powering off then powering on - nothing
shows up on my screen


Did I just screw up by cpu and mobo?

Any idea how to get this back to normal...or is it toast?

It would be good if you opened your manual at some point during this
process. There it will tell you where the CMOS reset jumper is, which
will reset the values in the BIOS to default.

 

[sooky grumper]

I doubt it. But why 166/133?

Because in another post a dildo named Kevin Lawton told him to, and he's
been silly and did it without even bothering to check what the
repercussions would be and how to correct matters.

 

[Kevin Lawton]

||| I set it to 166/133 saved the setting and restarted....
|||
||| Now I get now screen at all - no post sounds and cannot boot up.
|||
||| I tried rebooting about 10 x - powering off then powering on -
||| nothing shows up on my screen
|||
||| Did I just screw up by cpu and mobo?
|||
||
|| I doubt it. But why 166/133?
|
| Because in another post a dildo named Kevin Lawton told him to, and
| he's been silly and did it without even bothering to check what the
| repercussions would be and how to correct matters.

To be honest and accurate, I said that IF the OP was to TRY 166/133 then
he'd be overclocking the processor FSB, and I did also mention that it MIGHT
not work. Obviosly any mention of overclocking is at the user's discretion
as it involves trying to get it to run ahead of its specifications - and
different samples will behave differently.
It seems that in this case, the OP's XP1700 couldn't take it so a simple
BIOS reset should bring it back down to default again.
My appologies if somehow somebody mis-read what I'd put and thought that I
was suggesting that overclocking the processor FSB would definitely work -
it was certainly not my intention to convey that at all.
BTW: insulting someone in usenet is not a particularly clever or polite
thing to do, though maybe justified if that person was trying to start an
argument or flame others. That most certainly was not the case in this
instance.
Kevin.
P.S. My appologies for not being able to reply sooner today but I was
attending the funeral of a relative.

 

[Tavish Muldoon]

Thanks to everybody's help...I am back up...but for how long...?

My jackassery caused this problem and I will be more careful. Yup, I
looked at the mobo manual. Did the jumper thing...hope it stays
well..

But I want to update my BIOS...what do you think?

Thanks all!

Tmuld.

 

[sooky grumper]

||| I set it to 166/133 saved the setting and restarted....
|||
||| Now I get now screen at all - no post sounds and cannot boot up.
|||
||| I tried rebooting about 10 x - powering off then powering on -
||| nothing shows up on my screen
|||
||| Did I just screw up by cpu and mobo?
|||
||
|| I doubt it. But why 166/133?
|
| Because in another post a dildo named Kevin Lawton told him to, and
| he's been silly and did it without even bothering to check what the
| repercussions would be and how to correct matters.

To be honest and accurate, I said that IF the OP was to TRY 166/133 then
he'd be overclocking the processor FSB, and I did also mention that it MIGHT
not work. Obviosly any mention of overclocking is at the user's discretion
as it involves trying to get it to run ahead of its specifications - and
different samples will behave differently.
It seems that in this case, the OP's XP1700 couldn't take it so a simple
BIOS reset should bring it back down to default again.
My appologies if somehow somebody mis-read what I'd put and thought that I
was suggesting that overclocking the processor FSB would definitely work -
it was certainly not my intention to convey that at all.
BTW: insulting someone in usenet is not a particularly clever or polite
thing to do, though maybe justified if that person was trying to start an
argument or flame others. That most certainly was not the case in this
instance.

Kevin, your advice to a hardware newbie was extremely poor:

"Give it a try at 166/133 and you'll overclock the CPU and get a bit
more performance"

And without adequate information for the newbie to correct the mistake
you encouraged with "Give it a try":

"if it won't take it then come back down to 133/133"

This obvious hardware newbie would not know how to do that, would he?
Encouraging a person to overclock their hardware when they don't
understand the risks/benefits in the least, or how to fix it if they
screw it up, is the behaviour of a dildo, Kevin. It's just an
observation, don't take it personally ~~~

Kevin.
P.S. My appologies for not being able to reply sooner today but I was
attending the funeral of a relative.

Funerals suck. I hope the food at the wake was good.

 

[sooky grumper]

Thanks to everybody's help...I am back up...but for how long...?

My jackassery caused this problem and I will be more careful. Yup, I
looked at the mobo manual. Did the jumper thing...hope it stays
well..

But I want to update my BIOS...what do you think?

If you don't need a feature from the updated BIOS, don't do it. There's
always a risk of hosing your motherboard during the BIOS update.