P4-2.4 replacement cooler advise.


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John

This 4.5 year old homebuilt P4 is still very usable but its starting to
overheat. Any recommendations for an economical replacement cpu fan and
heat sink? I have been googling but the the recommendations that I read
are old and the products no longer available. I would like something
quiet as it already has two case fans along with the ps fan. I only used
the motherboard fan for a few days, whiny little thing drove us nuts and
after 4.5 years apparently wasn't needed.

The comp is mainly used for email, news groups and net activities but
lately net broadcast video streams have the processor temperature
hitting its limits. Its sitting at 52C as I type this but if I got onto
a video stream I know it would climb. It was at 72C a couple of days ago
not doing a thing so I shut it down and blew out the dust bunnies which
helped. I'll strip it down and give all the vents & fans a good cleaning
this weekend.

A system summary by SiSoftware Sandra ...

Processor(s)
Model : Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 2.40GHz
Speed : 2.41GHz
Performance Rating : PR2646 (estimated)
Type : Standard
L2 On-board Cache : 512kB ECC synchronous ATC

System Mainboard
Bus(es) : ISA AGP PCI IMB USB FireWire/1394 SMBus/i2c
MP Support : 1 CPU(s)
System BIOS : American Megatrends Inc. V1.2 11
System Mainboard : MICRO-STAR INC. MS-6704
System Chipset : Intel Corporation 82845PE Brookdale Host-Hub Interface
Bridge (B0-step)
Front Side Bus Speed : 4x 134MHz (536MHz data rate)
Installed Memory : 512MB DDR-SDRAM
Memory Bus Speed : 2x 168MHz (336MHz data rate)

Video System
Monitor/Panel : Plug and Play Monitor
Adapter : RAGE 128 PRO Ultra GL AGP (Microsoft Corporation)

Physical Storage Devices
Removable Drive : Floppy disk drive
Disk Drive : IOMEGA ZIP 100
Disk Drive : ST36531A
Disk Drive : Promise 1+0 Stripe/RAID0 SCSI Disk Device
CD-ROM/DVD : SONY CD-RW CRX160E

Logical Storage Devices
1.44MB 3.5" (A:) : N/A
Hard Disk (C:) : 502MB (290MB, 58% Free) (FAT)
Hard Disk (D:) : 478MB (458MB, 96% Free) (FAT)
Hard Disk (E:) : 4.6GB (1.6GB, 35% Free) (NTFS)
Hard Disk (F:) : 994MB (900MB, 91% Free) (FAT32)
Hard Disk (G:) : 1.4GB (673MB, 47% Free) (NTFS)
Hard Disk (H:) : 3.7GB (3.0GB, 79% Free) (NTFS)
Hard Disk (I:) : 18.6GB (10.3GB, 55% Free) (NTFS)
Hard Disk (J:) : 26.6GB (7.3GB, 27% Free) (NTFS)
Removable Disk (K:) : N/A
CD-ROM/DVD (L:) : N/A
Hard Disk (M:) : 4.9GB (2.0GB, 41% Free) (FAT32)
Hard Disk (N:) : 20.6GB (16.3GB, 79% Free) (NTFS)

Peripherals
Serial/Parallel Port(s) : 2 COM / 1 LPT
USB Controller/Hub : Intel(r) 82801DB/DBM USB Universal Host Controller
- 24C2
USB Controller/Hub : Intel(r) 82801DB/DBM USB Universal Host Controller
- 24C4
USB Controller/Hub : Intel(r) 82801DB/DBM USB Universal Host Controller
- 24C7
USB Controller/Hub : Intel(r) 82801DB/DBM USB 2.0 Enhanced Host
Controller - 24CD
USB Controller/Hub : USB Root Hub
USB Controller/Hub : USB Root Hub
USB Controller/Hub : USB Root Hub
USB Controller/Hub : USB Root Hub
FireWire/1394 Controller : VIA OHCI Compliant IEEE 1394 Host Controller
Keyboard : Standard 101/102-Key or Microsoft Natural PS/2 Keyboard
Mouse : PS/2 Compatible Mouse

MultiMedia Device(s)
Device : Standard Game Port
Device : CMI8738/C3DX PCI Audio Device

Communication Device(s)
Device : MDP7800-U Modem

Printers and Faxes
Model : EPSON Stylus CX5000 Series

Operating System(s)
Windows System : Microsoft Windows XP Professional Ver 5.01.2600 Service
Pack 2

Network Adapter(s)
Networking Installed : Yes
Adapter : NETGEAR FA311 Fast Ethernet Adapter



Thanks for any help,
John
 
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Paul

John said:
This 4.5 year old homebuilt P4 is still very usable but its starting to
overheat. Any recommendations for an economical replacement cpu fan and
heat sink? I have been googling but the the recommendations that I read
are old and the products no longer available. I would like something
quiet as it already has two case fans along with the ps fan. I only used
the motherboard fan for a few days, whiny little thing drove us nuts and
after 4.5 years apparently wasn't needed.

The comp is mainly used for email, news groups and net activities but
lately net broadcast video streams have the processor temperature
hitting its limits. Its sitting at 52C as I type this but if I got onto
a video stream I know it would climb. It was at 72C a couple of days ago
not doing a thing so I shut it down and blew out the dust bunnies which
helped. I'll strip it down and give all the vents & fans a good cleaning
this weekend.

A system summary by SiSoftware Sandra ...

Processor(s)
Model : Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 2.40GHz
Speed : 2.41GHz
Performance Rating : PR2646 (estimated)
Type : Standard
L2 On-board Cache : 512kB ECC synchronous ATC

System Mainboard
Bus(es) : ISA AGP PCI IMB USB FireWire/1394 SMBus/i2c
MP Support : 1 CPU(s)
System BIOS : American Megatrends Inc. V1.2 11
System Mainboard : MICRO-STAR INC. MS-6704
System Chipset : Intel Corporation 82845PE Brookdale Host-Hub Interface
Bridge (B0-step)
Front Side Bus Speed : 4x 134MHz (536MHz data rate)
Installed Memory : 512MB DDR-SDRAM
Memory Bus Speed : 2x 168MHz (336MHz data rate)

Thanks for any help,
John

I use this on a couple motherboards. On my S478, this has been
running for a couple years.

CNPS7000B-AlCu
http://www.zalman.co.kr/eng/product/view.asp?idx=142&code=009

Check for clearance between the motherboard and power supply. Use the
dimensions provided, and look at your particular setup, to see if there
is room for it.

http://www.zalman.co.kr/product/cooler/7000(AB)_478MBlist_eng.htm

HTH,
Paul
 
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BigJim

you may need to clean the heatsink and remove the cpu and put new thermal
paste on it.
 
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Jeff H

John said:
This 4.5 year old homebuilt P4 is still very usable but its starting to
overheat. Any recommendations for an economical replacement cpu fan and
heat sink? I have been googling but the the recommendations that I read
are old and the products no longer available. I would like something quiet
as it already has two case fans along with the ps fan. I only used the
motherboard fan for a few days, whiny little thing drove us nuts and after
4.5 years apparently wasn't needed.

The comp is mainly used for email, news groups and net activities but
lately net broadcast video streams have the processor temperature hitting
its limits. Its sitting at 52C as I type this but if I got onto a video
stream I know it would climb. It was at 72C a couple of days ago not doing
a thing so I shut it down and blew out the dust bunnies which helped. I'll
strip it down and give all the vents & fans a good cleaning this weekend.

A system summary by SiSoftware Sandra ...

Processor(s)
Model : Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 2.40GHz
Speed : 2.41GHz
Performance Rating : PR2646 (estimated)
Type : Standard
L2 On-board Cache : 512kB ECC synchronous ATC

System Mainboard
Bus(es) : ISA AGP PCI IMB USB FireWire/1394 SMBus/i2c
MP Support : 1 CPU(s)
System BIOS : American Megatrends Inc. V1.2 11
System Mainboard : MICRO-STAR INC. MS-6704
System Chipset : Intel Corporation 82845PE Brookdale Host-Hub Interface
Bridge (B0-step)
Front Side Bus Speed : 4x 134MHz (536MHz data rate)
Installed Memory : 512MB DDR-SDRAM
Memory Bus Speed : 2x 168MHz (336MHz data rate)

Video System
Monitor/Panel : Plug and Play Monitor
Adapter : RAGE 128 PRO Ultra GL AGP (Microsoft Corporation)

Physical Storage Devices
Removable Drive : Floppy disk drive
Disk Drive : IOMEGA ZIP 100
Disk Drive : ST36531A
Disk Drive : Promise 1+0 Stripe/RAID0 SCSI Disk Device
CD-ROM/DVD : SONY CD-RW CRX160E

Logical Storage Devices
1.44MB 3.5" (A:) : N/A
Hard Disk (C:) : 502MB (290MB, 58% Free) (FAT)
Hard Disk (D:) : 478MB (458MB, 96% Free) (FAT)
Hard Disk (E:) : 4.6GB (1.6GB, 35% Free) (NTFS)
Hard Disk (F:) : 994MB (900MB, 91% Free) (FAT32)
Hard Disk (G:) : 1.4GB (673MB, 47% Free) (NTFS)
Hard Disk (H:) : 3.7GB (3.0GB, 79% Free) (NTFS)
Hard Disk (I:) : 18.6GB (10.3GB, 55% Free) (NTFS)
Hard Disk (J:) : 26.6GB (7.3GB, 27% Free) (NTFS)
Removable Disk (K:) : N/A
CD-ROM/DVD (L:) : N/A
Hard Disk (M:) : 4.9GB (2.0GB, 41% Free) (FAT32)
Hard Disk (N:) : 20.6GB (16.3GB, 79% Free) (NTFS)

Peripherals
Serial/Parallel Port(s) : 2 COM / 1 LPT
USB Controller/Hub : Intel(r) 82801DB/DBM USB Universal Host Controller -
24C2
USB Controller/Hub : Intel(r) 82801DB/DBM USB Universal Host Controller -
24C4
USB Controller/Hub : Intel(r) 82801DB/DBM USB Universal Host Controller -
24C7
USB Controller/Hub : Intel(r) 82801DB/DBM USB 2.0 Enhanced Host
Controller - 24CD
USB Controller/Hub : USB Root Hub
USB Controller/Hub : USB Root Hub
USB Controller/Hub : USB Root Hub
USB Controller/Hub : USB Root Hub
FireWire/1394 Controller : VIA OHCI Compliant IEEE 1394 Host Controller
Keyboard : Standard 101/102-Key or Microsoft Natural PS/2 Keyboard
Mouse : PS/2 Compatible Mouse

MultiMedia Device(s)
Device : Standard Game Port
Device : CMI8738/C3DX PCI Audio Device

Communication Device(s)
Device : MDP7800-U Modem

Printers and Faxes
Model : EPSON Stylus CX5000 Series

Operating System(s)
Windows System : Microsoft Windows XP Professional Ver 5.01.2600 Service
Pack 2

Network Adapter(s)
Networking Installed : Yes
Adapter : NETGEAR FA311 Fast Ethernet Adapter



Thanks for any help,
John

John,

Here's an hsf that I've had good luck with:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835118104

I've also been pleased w/ the performance and quietness of this style.
currently
in use (different unit) on an Athlon 64 4000+:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835185114

Right now it's out of stock, but Newegg will email you when it comes in.

Jeff
 
J

John

Paul said:
I use this on a couple motherboards. On my S478, this has been
running for a couple years.

CNPS7000B-AlCu
http://www.zalman.co.kr/eng/product/view.asp?idx=142&code=009

Check for clearance between the motherboard and power supply. Use the
dimensions provided, and look at your particular setup, to see if there
is room for it.

http://www.zalman.co.kr/product/cooler/7000(AB)_478MBlist_eng.htm

HTH,
Paul

Thank you Paul I'll check it out.

By the way clearance is not a problem as its a tall server case.

Thanks,
John
 
J

John

Jeff said:
John,

Here's an hsf that I've had good luck with:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835118104

I've also been pleased w/ the performance and quietness of this style.
currently
in use (different unit) on an Athlon 64 4000+:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835185114

Right now it's out of stock, but Newegg will email you when it comes in.

Jeff


That is an interesting gadget!

If you have the time please see which way the duct is pointed on your
system in relation to the CPU clips. My system has the clips at the top
(opens from back to front) and the bottom (opens from front to back) and
it would be great if the duct points toward the rear exhaust fans rather
than the cards mounted below the CPU. A home made duct to a rear fan
would do a great job of cooling.

Thanks,
John
 
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J

John

BigJim said:
you may need to clean the heatsink and remove the cpu and put new
thermal paste on it.


You are probably right but a few bucks spent on a new a fan and sink
would be a good investment if I have to tear the thing apart anyway.

Thanks,
John
 
J

John

John said:
That is an interesting gadget!

If you have the time please see which way the duct is pointed on your
system in relation to the CPU clips. My system has the clips at the top
(opens from back to front) and the bottom (opens from front to back) and
it would be great if the duct points toward the rear exhaust fans rather
than the cards mounted below the CPU. A home made duct to a rear fan
would do a great job of cooling.

Thanks,
John

oops, never mind I see (too late) that you have it on an Athlon ... LOL

Sorry,
John
 
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