Anybody here use Linux?

[Ed Medlin]

Yeah right! I had the pleasure of installing the Linux Nvidia drivers to

Mandrake 9.2 tonight.

What a pain in the ass, I decided to remove Linux altogether from my system,
guess what, it's like a virus, harder than hell to remove.

It has you jumping thru hoops for what should be an easy task.

Linux sux big time.

Dashi

It was easy and completely automatic on SUSE 9.0. Some other things on Suse
are a bit tougher than Mandrake, I guess there are pros and cons for any
distro. Right now I am stuck in KDE and want to use Gnome......lol.........
I can't get out of KDE for the life of me....... Regards Dashi.......


Ed

 

[Ed Medlin]

Hey Ed:

What is the incentive for companies to offer mail in rebates?

Could it be that you are offering them an interest free loan for the period
between when you pay up front and the rebate arrives in your mailbox?

Just another consumer ripoff.

Dashi

I guess it is the fact that over half the people don't mail in the rebate
form. Yep, if you get right down to it, it probably could be considered that
way. People buy the product, lose or just don't bother with the rebate.


Ed

 

[Ruel Smith (Big Daddy)]

Yeah right! I had the pleasure of installing the Linux Nvidia drivers to
Mandrake 9.2 tonight.

What a pain in the ass, I decided to remove Linux altogether from my
system, guess what, it's like a virus, harder than hell to remove.

It has you jumping thru hoops for what should be an easy task.

Linux sux big time.

Let's see... You drop to runlevel 3, cd to the directory containing the .run
file, type 'sh NVIDIA-Linux-x86-1.0-4496-pkg2.run', answer the questions,
restart X, and voila! It's just soooo dificult...

Removing Linux is a matter of using something like Partition Magic to
reclaim the formatted partitions. Wow, again, soooo dificult...

I think you just don't exhibit the mental capacity to do such trivial
matters. Remember, LINUX ISN'T WINDOWS. Don't expect anything to work like
Windows. Don't expect the system to be structured like Windows. Don't
expect anything other than to completely learn a whole new operating system
that does things its own way. It's like buying a Mac. Would you expect a
Mac to work like Windows? Which, BTW, Mac OS X is a Unix foundation with
hand-holding user interface attached. Linux won't hold your hand or burp
you or anything else.

Look... I'm not a geek by any measure. I'm very much a regular guy that is
not into technical stuff, except computing. I don't like calculus. I don't
like physics. I don't like anime. I don't like Star Trek. I don't like
sci-fi at all, other than the original Star Wars trilogy. I'm not a
brainiac of any kind. My other hobbies are weight lifting, playing my
Fender Strat, and my love for automobiles. I love to watch NASCAR,
football, and boxing. In other words, I'm nothing like you envision a Linux
user to be. _I_CAN_USE_LINUX_AND_SO_CAN_YOU!_



--
Big Daddy Ruel Smith

My SuSE Linux machine uptime:
6:17pm up 2 days 8:52, 2 users, load average: 0.37, 0.35, 0.15

My Windows XP machine uptime:
Something less...

 

[Ruel Smith (Big Daddy)]

likes better. Can't beat enlightenment for eye-candy.

Sure you can! It's called K...D...E...

--
Big Daddy Ruel Smith

My SuSE Linux machine uptime:
6:33pm up 2 days 9:09, 2 users, load average: 0.22, 0.65, 0.47

My Windows XP machine uptime:
Something less...

 

[JAD]

do nux boxes have USB support now?

Let's see... You drop to runlevel 3, cd to the directory containing the .run
file, type 'sh NVIDIA-Linux-x86-1.0-4496-pkg2.run', answer the questions,
restart X, and voila! It's just soooo dificult...

Removing Linux is a matter of using something like Partition Magic to
reclaim the formatted partitions. Wow, again, soooo dificult...

I think you just don't exhibit the mental capacity to do such trivial
matters. Remember, LINUX ISN'T WINDOWS. Don't expect anything to work like
Windows. Don't expect the system to be structured like Windows. Don't
expect anything other than to completely learn a whole new operating system
that does things its own way. It's like buying a Mac. Would you expect a
Mac to work like Windows? Which, BTW, Mac OS X is a Unix foundation with
hand-holding user interface attached. Linux won't hold your hand or burp
you or anything else.

Look... I'm not a geek by any measure. I'm very much a regular guy that is
not into technical stuff, except computing. I don't like calculus. I don't
like physics. I don't like anime. I don't like Star Trek. I don't like
sci-fi at all, other than the original Star Wars trilogy. I'm not a
brainiac of any kind. My other hobbies are weight lifting, playing my
Fender Strat, and my love for automobiles. I love to watch NASCAR,
football, and boxing. In other words, I'm nothing like you envision a Linux
user to be. _I_CAN_USE_LINUX_AND_SO_CAN_YOU!_



--
Big Daddy Ruel Smith

My SuSE Linux machine uptime:
6:17pm up 2 days 8:52, 2 users, load average: 0.37, 0.35, 0.15

My Windows XP machine uptime:
Something less...

 

[Dave C.]

Let's see... You drop to runlevel 3, cd to the directory containing the
..run

file, type 'sh NVIDIA-Linux-x86-1.0-4496-pkg2.run', answer the questions,
restart X, and voila! It's just soooo dificult...

Removing Linux is a matter of using something like Partition Magic to
reclaim the formatted partitions. Wow, again, soooo dificult...

Why use partition magic? It's so much easier to run the install to the
point of partitioning, delete the partitions and reboot. -Dave

 

[Dashi]

haha , you have that right, that's part of what I had to do.

How many people know how to uninstall Linux intuitively?
You can uninstall Linux if you had already installed 'binutil', if not, jump
thru the hoops again.

If you have Lilo installed you had better uninstall that first, if you can
find out how to.

Or else there goes the MBR.

Like I said it is a pain in the ass.

Do it wrong and you screw up your MBR and if you are not careful lose
everything.

Choice is good and if you like Linux fine, I don't that's why it's no longer
on my computer.

Dashi

 

[Dave C.]

haha , you have that right, that's part of what I had to do.

How many people know how to uninstall Linux intuitively?
You can uninstall Linux if you had already installed 'binutil', if not, jump
thru the hoops again.

If you have Lilo installed you had better uninstall that first, if you can
find out how to.

Or else there goes the MBR.

Like I said it is a pain in the ass.

Regardless of what program you use to boot, you will have to get rid of it
somehow. The easiest way would be to re-partition the disk with windows.
If you don't want to format (let's say because you were dual booting windows
and linux) you can boot to a dos boot disk and do a fdisk /mbr. -Dave

 

[Rod Johnson]

Bloat Bloat Bloat ;-) I'm running a PII R400 from Dell. It's been a
SuSE Linux only machine for neigh on 4 years. Up time record 69 days and
some odd hours till the Electric company went on strike (literally).


Wife and kids like Gnome eye-candy, but I prefer enlightenment.

 

[Rod Johnson]

Been using a Handspring usb hotsync cradle for about 2-3 years. Does
that count?

 

[JAD]

yeah, I supposed if the average person whos thinking about nux even knows what that is.

 

[Rod Johnson]

Only time I ever lost every thing was to a windows virus. I spent three
hours with my niece trying to get rid of pop-ups and a virus dialer.
Result, format the whole damn hard disk and start over from scratch. I
am glad you
have the money and patience to choose Windows.

 

[Ruel Smith (Big Daddy)]

do nux boxes have USB support now?

I'm typing this with a USB keyboard and my mouse is USB as well. Check the
headers of this message. I'm in SuSE Linux 9 using Knode.



--
Big Daddy Ruel Smith

My SuSE Linux machine uptime:
11:20pm up 3 days 13:55, 2 users, load average: 0.31, 0.27, 0.19

My Windows XP machine uptime:
Something less...

 

[Ruel Smith (Big Daddy)]

yeah, I supposed if the average person whos thinking about nux even knows
what that is.

SuSE 9 even supports hot plugging USB.



--
Big Daddy Ruel Smith

My SuSE Linux machine uptime:
11:21pm up 3 days 13:57, 2 users, load average: 0.14, 0.24, 0.18

My Windows XP machine uptime:
Something less...

 

[Ruel Smith (Big Daddy)]

Bloat Bloat Bloat ;-) I'm running a PII R400 from Dell. It's been a
SuSE Linux only machine for neigh on 4 years. Up time record 69 days and
some odd hours till the Electric company went on strike (literally).

My uptime is longer than my signature suggests. Something went wrong with
the uptime command. Here's my 'last -x | grep boot' command dump:

reboot system boot 2.4.21-144-defau Sun Dec 7 12:58 (53+10:24)

53 days, 10:24 and counting.

Someone suggested I have an integer overflow error that caused my uptime to
start over. Don't know. Oh well...

This machine will probably stay up until sometime in May when I install SuSE
9.1, or 10 (which ever it is).



--
Big Daddy Ruel Smith

My SuSE Linux machine uptime:
11:25pm up 3 days 14:00, 3 users, load average: 0.19, 0.26, 0.19

My Windows XP machine uptime:
Something less...

 

[JAD]

easy big guy no need to get defensive it was a legit question, not an attack on your nux , as that's where I got off the band
wagon, just as USB was a BIG deal, lacking in any Linux distribution.

 

[Conor]

easy big guy no need to get defensive it was a legit question, not an attack on your nux , as that's where I got off the band
wagon, just as USB was a BIG deal, lacking in any Linux distribution.

Well unlike XP, Linux distros had support for USB2 without needing a
patch.


--
Conor

"The vast majority of Iraqis want to live in a peaceful, free world.
And we will find these people and we will bring them to justice."
- George Bush

 

[Matt]

I don't build obsolete hardware. I've never had a problem installing linux
on any machine I've tried, including various notebooks that were brand new,
and not last year's model.

Uh huh. And did you buy the hardware at random? That would be very
lucky. Or did you carefully study what hardware would work with linux
before you bought it? People don't have to do that when they buy
hardware for Windows. It is roughly equivalent to having to track down
drivers and install them. It requires study and time and attention.

I think you are confused. What linux has a
problem with is not obsolete but rather "cheap".

Well let's see.

Suppose I bought a popular piece of hardware a year ago and it didn't
work with linux.

Compare that to buying the identical piece of hardware now. Now the
drivers have been written and the item works with linux. Also the item
is cheaper now than it was a year ago.

That happens all the time.

So in the case where the hardware worked with linux, the hardware was
both older and cheaper.

In the case where the hardware didn't work with linux, the hardware was
both newer and more expensive.

Certainly linux installs much easier on obsolete hardware. Windows
installs only a little easier on obsolete hardware.

 

[Ruel Smith (Big Daddy)]

easy big guy no need to get defensive it was a legit question, not an
attack on your nux , as that's where I got off the band wagon, just as USB
was a BIG deal, lacking in any Linux distribution.

I appologize if it came off that way. It wasn't intended. I only wanted to
point out that I was indeed posting from Linux while using a USB keyboad
and mouse.



--
Big Daddy Ruel Smith

My SuSE Linux machine uptime:
5:48pm up 4 days 8:23, 2 users, load average: 0.45, 0.77, 0.76

My Windows XP machine uptime:
Something less...

 

[Ruel Smith (Big Daddy)]

Well unlike XP, Linux distros had support for USB2 without needing a
patch.

In defense of XP, I had USB 2.0 running before the XP patch. You just needed
OEM drivers. XP just added universal drivers to the OS.

--
Big Daddy Ruel Smith

My SuSE Linux machine uptime:
5:50pm up 4 days 8:25, 2 users, load average: 0.20, 0.56, 0.68

My Windows XP machine uptime:
Something less...