antivirus programs

[Boscotex]

I can't seem to download my mcafee antivirus program. I had one loaded but it
wasn't working. Also can't download Spysweeper for MSN. What's wrong?

 

[Alias]

I can't seem to download my mcafee antivirus program. I had one loaded but it
wasn't working. Also can't download Spysweeper for MSN. What's wrong?

You're probably infected. As McAfee is not a good program, you would be
better off backing up all your data and reinstalling XP. That, believe
it or not, will be faster than trying to clean up your computer. Also,
you can then NOT install McAfee or Norton and use a good, free program
like Avast and your XP firewall. In addition, I would recommend Spybot,
Search and Destroy, Spywareblaster and Spywareguard. For cleaning temp
files, I recommend Crap Cleaner.

Alias

 

[Mike Torello]

I can't seem to download my mcafee antivirus program. I had one loaded but it
wasn't working. Also can't download Spysweeper for MSN. What's wrong?

Do you mean "download"... as in get it from the Internet, or do you
mean "install" as in you have it and you're trying to get it running
on your computer?

 

[ArameFarpado]

Em Segunda, 19 de Janeiro de 2009 18:19, Alias escreveu:

You're probably infected.

remove this "probably".

 

[Erwin Moller]

Alias schreef:

You're probably infected. As McAfee is not a good program, you would be
better off backing up all your data and reinstalling XP. That, believe
it or not, will be faster than trying to clean up your computer. Also,
you can then NOT install McAfee or Norton and use a good, free program
like Avast and your XP firewall. In addition, I would recommend Spybot,
Search and Destroy, Spywareblaster and Spywareguard. For cleaning temp
files, I recommend Crap Cleaner.

Alias

Alias,

Do you have any factoids to back up your claim that McAfee sucks?
I used McAfee for a long time and haven't ever been infected by a
virus/malware.
I am a lot online and a general active computeruser, and have been using
all Microsoft OS since W95.

I am not claiming you are wrong, but could you please provide a reliable
source for your claim?

Regards,
Erwin Moller

--
"There are two ways of constructing a software design: One way is to
make it so simple that there are obviously no deficiencies, and the
other way is to make it so complicated that there are no obvious
deficiencies. The first method is far more difficult."
-- C.A.R. Hoare

 

[Tom [Pepper] Willett]

Alias doesn't provide sources for his drivel in the newsgroups. He's simply
an opinionated troll.

There's nothing wrong with claiming he is wrong...he is.

"Erwin Moller"
message : Alias schreef:
: > Boscotex wrote:
: >> I can't seem to download my mcafee antivirus program. I had one loaded
: >> but it wasn't working. Also can't download Spysweeper for MSN. What's
: >> wrong?
: >
: > You're probably infected. As McAfee is not a good program, you would be
: > better off backing up all your data and reinstalling XP. That, believe
: > it or not, will be faster than trying to clean up your computer. Also,
: > you can then NOT install McAfee or Norton and use a good, free program
: > like Avast and your XP firewall. In addition, I would recommend Spybot,
: > Search and Destroy, Spywareblaster and Spywareguard. For cleaning temp
: > files, I recommend Crap Cleaner.
: >
: > Alias
:
: Alias,
:
: Do you have any factoids to back up your claim that McAfee sucks?
: I used McAfee for a long time and haven't ever been infected by a
: virus/malware.
: I am a lot online and a general active computeruser, and have been using
: all Microsoft OS since W95.
:
: I am not claiming you are wrong, but could you please provide a reliable
: source for your claim?
:
: Regards,
: Erwin Moller
:
: --
: "There are two ways of constructing a software design: One way is to
: make it so simple that there are obviously no deficiencies, and the
: other way is to make it so complicated that there are no obvious
: deficiencies. The first method is far more difficult."
: -- C.A.R. Hoare

 

[Mick Murphy]

Download, install, update and scan with the 2 Programs below.
If you can not download them in normal Mode, do it all in Safe Mode with
Networking.
All info below.

http://www.spybot.info/en/index.html

Spybot Search & Destroy 1.6 is a very good, FREE Anti-Spyware Program.
Download, install, update, and immunize your System with it.
Then SCAN with it.
Update it, and scan your System once a fortnight.

http://www.malwarebytes.org/mbam.php

Malwarebytes is as the name says, a Malware Remover!
For the Free version scroll down their page to either download from
Download.com, or Major Geeks.com

Download, install, and update.

Important re: Safe Mode
If you happen to find a problem that you can’t uninstall / delete, reboot
the computer, and go into Safe Mode.
To get into Safe mode, tap F8 right at Power On / Startup, and use UP arrow
key to get to Safe Mode from list of options, then hit ENTER.
RESCAN your computer with your Anti-Virus, Malwarebytes and Spybot S & D
while in Safe Mode.

If unable to install above Programs in Normal Mode:
Sometimes Trojans, Viruses, Malware, etc stop you installing and/or updating
Programs to remove them.
If that happens, reboot into Safe Mode with Networking (from F8 list of
Startup Options), and install, update and scan from there.

 

[norm]

Alias doesn't provide sources for his drivel in the newsgroups. He's simply
an opinionated troll.

There's nothing wrong with claiming he is wrong...he is.

Although Alias is not universally loved and respected, some of your
peers hold the same poor opinion of mcafee that Alias expresses. In none
of the following quotes are any sources reported or, for that matter,
asked for after the statements were made. His being labeled a troll
should have nothing to do with his opinion on this issue. YMMV

"My recommendation is that you do not reinstall it, but instead
uninstall and replace it. I, and many others here, consider McAfee to be
the second worst (only Norton is worse) security software available."
Ken Blake 11/6/2008

"McAfee Consumer Products Removal Tool:
http://service.mcafee.com/FAQDocument.aspx?id=107083&lc=4105&partner=McAfee&type=TS&ia=1
Personally, I wouldn't have anything from McAfee or Norton on any
machine of mine.
AVG is good as is Avast which I use. Neither are resource hogs either."
Bruce Hagen 1/14/2009

"McAfee is awful. Suggest you uninstall it and use a better antivirus. I
like NOD32 (commercial) or Avast (has a free version). If you want to
keep McAfee, then uninstall/reinstall. See if that takes care of the
issue."
Malke 12/3/2008

 

[Mike Torello]

Although Alias is not universally loved and respected

It's early yet, but I think at year's end you'll still be in the
running for the The Understatement of the Year Award.

 

[Alias]

Alias schreef:

Alias,

Do you have any factoids to back up your claim that McAfee sucks?
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&...le+Search&aq=0s&oq=anti+virus+program+compari

I used McAfee for a long time and haven't ever been infected by a
virus/malware.

See the above links for McAfee's detection rates compared to other programs.

I am a lot online and a general active computeruser, and have been using
all Microsoft OS since W95.

I am not claiming you are wrong, but could you please provide a reliable
source for your claim?

Regards,
Erwin Moller

See above.

Free, Avast or AVG.

Pay: NOD32 or Kaspersky

Of course, this is as of now. Who knows what will be good in the future.

Personally, I use Linux for the Internet so I don't even have an anti
virus installed.

Alias

 

[Alias]

Alias doesn't provide sources for his drivel in the newsgroups. He's simply
an opinionated troll.

There's nothing wrong with claiming he is wrong...he is.

That time of the month?

Alias

 

[Alias]

Although Alias is not universally loved and respected, some of your
peers hold the same poor opinion of mcafee that Alias expresses. In none
of the following quotes are any sources reported or, for that matter,
asked for after the statements were made. His being labeled a troll
should have nothing to do with his opinion on this issue. YMMV

Why thank you, Norm.

Alias

 

[norm]

It's early yet, but I think at year's end you'll still be in the
running for the The Understatement of the Year Award.

lol

 

[Ronaldo]

Read somewhere that Rootkits are known to disable security applications and
downloading them so what you probably need to do is scan with an Antirootkit
but before you can download one you may need to logon in Safe Mode with
Networking... Restart the computer and start taping F8 from the beggining
until the start options list appears, and select Safe Mode with Networking.


Antirootkits
http://en.seguridadpc.net/antirootkit.htm
http://www.prevx.com/filenames/1659043503788551641-0/PREVXCSI.RAR.html

 

[Kayman]

I can't seem to download my mcafee antivirus program. I had one loaded but it
wasn't working. Also can't download Spysweeper for MSN. What's wrong?

The retail version of McAfee is not what the average homeuser should
install; It's bloated and can create havoc to your pc.
I'd suggest to remove this application and go for freely available AV
program that's actually working.
My personal choice is:
Avira AntiVir® Personal - FREE Antivirus
http://www.free-av.com/
(The free version won't scan your emails.)
Why You Don't Need Your Anti-Virus Program to Scan Your E-Mail
http://thundercloud.net/infoave/tutorials/email-scanning/index.htm
Ensure your e-mail program is configured to display e-mail messages in
'Plain Text' only.
You may wish to consider removing the 'AntiVir Nagscreen'
http://www.elitekiller.com/files/disable_antivir_nag.htm

With respect to your downloading problem, try this:

1.Clear the (IE) temporary Internet files and the history cache.
Click 'Start' and then click 'Run'... then type (or copy/paste)
"inetcpl.cpl" (w/out quotation marks) into the box, then click the 'OK'
button.
In Internet Properties panel 'General' tab, under 'Browsing history', click
'Delete...'button, in 'Delete Browsing History' panel, click the 'Delete
all...' button then place a checkmark into the box beside 'Also delete
files and settings stored by add-ons', Click 'Yes' and exit the Internet
Properties panel by clicking the 'OK' button.

2.Clean HDD
Click 'Start' and then click 'Run...' then type (or copy/paste) "cleanmgr"
(w/out quotation marks into the box, then click the 'OK' button. Select
your drive
(presumably WinXP (C and click OK.

3.Download/execute:
Malwarebytes© Corporation - Anti-Malware
http://www.malwarebytes.org/mbam/program/mbam-setup.exe
--and--
SuperAntispyware - Free
http://www.superantispyware.com/downloadfile.html?productid=SUPERANTISPYWAREFREE

4.Download and execute HiJack This! (HJT)
http://www.trendsecure.com/portal/en-US/tools/security_tools/hijackthis

Please, do not post HJT logs to this newsgroup.
Fora where you can get expert advice for HiJack This! (HJT) logs.

http://www.thespykiller.co.uk/index.php?board=3.0
http://www.spywarewarrior.com/viewforum.php?f=5
http://forums.tomcoyote.org/index.php?showforum=27
http://www.bleepingcomputer.com/forums/forum22.html
http://www.malwarebytes.org/forums/index.php?showforum=7
http://www.5starsupport.com/ipboard/index.php?showforum=18
http://www.theeldergeek.com/forum/index.php?s=2e9ea4e19d3289dd877ab75a8220bff6&showforum=29

NOTE:
Registration is required in any of the above mentioned fora before posting
a HJT log and read the 'stickies' (instructions/guidelines) for the
respective HJT forum.

5.Routinely practice Safe-Hex.
http://www.claymania.com/safe-hex.html

Additional reference:
GMER - is an application that detects and removes rootkits.
http://www.gmer.net/index.php

For additional assistance in relation GMER scan results consult either
http://antirootkit.com/forums/index.php?sid=9e746bb696ac0bb38781ffe4361c3a17
--or--
http://www.thespykiller.co.uk/index.php?board=3.0

Good luck

 

[HeyBub]

Although Alias is not universally loved and respected, some of your
peers hold the same poor opinion of mcafee that Alias expresses. In
none of the following quotes are any sources reported or, for that
matter, asked for after the statements were made. His being labeled a
troll should have nothing to do with his opinion on this issue. YMMV

The statements you reference do not have to be sourced; they ARE the source.
Experts need not bolster their assertions by appealing to other "experts."

 

[norm]

The statements you reference do not have to be sourced; they ARE the source.
Experts need not bolster their assertions by appealing to other "experts."

If you say so, but the issue is not whether "experts" need to "bolster
their assertions". The issue is whether the opinion on mcafee held by
Alias is held to a higher standard than the opinion of the "experts" you
refer to. Regardless if Alias is considered a troll or not, why was his
opinion considered "drivel" for lack of proof vs. the opinions expressed
by Tom's mvp peers?