anti virus software

[lawrie]

I have heard that you should not run two anti-virus program together but
i am here to tell you that I run Anti-vir and AVG on the one computer
and find that between the two of them my computer is a lot cleaner and
it stay running at a resonable speed.I also have 6 children using this
computer and with these programs ruunning it still stay clean.
thanxs
lawrie

 

[David H. Lipman]

From: "lawrie" <[email protected]>

| I have heard that you should not run two anti-virus program together but
| i am here to tell you that I run Anti-vir and AVG on the one computer
| and find that between the two of them my computer is a lot cleaner and
| it stay running at a resonable speed.I also have 6 children using this
| computer and with these programs ruunning it still stay clean.
| thanxs
| lawrie

In general terms it is contraindicated to run two full AV applications at the same time.
However, there are exception *if* the software can be configured properly. For example,
only one of the two applications has its "On Access" scanner operating.

As for the statement "...have 6 children using this computer and with these programs
running it still stay clean"
Don't bet the house on it. On new virus could still slip by if they don't have signatures
for it yet and neither will fully protect you against non-viral malware.

 

[Alan Pollock]

From: "lawrie" <[email protected]>

| I have heard that you should not run two anti-virus program together but
| i am here to tell you that I run Anti-vir and AVG on the one computer
| and find that between the two of them my computer is a lot cleaner and
| it stay running at a resonable speed.I also have 6 children using this
| computer and with these programs ruunning it still stay clean.
| thanxs
| lawrie

In general terms it is contraindicated to run two full AV applications at the same time.
However, there are exception *if* the software can be configured properly. For example,
only one of the two applications has its "On Access" scanner operating.

As for the statement "...have 6 children using this computer and with these programs
running it still stay clean"
Don't bet the house on it. On new virus could still slip by if they don't have signatures
for it yet and neither will fully protect you against non-viral malware.

I have real-time monitors running from avast, the cleaner, and msoft's malware
product because their detections overlap. Never a problem, touch wood, nor is
there ever a conflict. The very few times virii were found real time, avast
was always the one to set the alarm bells ringing. I have a relatively fast
system so the slowdown is hardly noticeable. Nex

 

[Beauregard T. Shagnasty]

I have real-time monitors running from avast, the cleaner, and
msoft's malware product because their detections overlap. Never a
problem, touch wood, nor is there ever a conflict.

Only one of those products is an anti-virus application. Could be the
reason, eh?

The very few times virii were found real time, avast was always the
one to set the alarm bells ringing. I have a relatively fast system
so the slowdown is hardly noticeable. Nex

Avast! is quite good. I use it only for manual scanning of files
received or downloaded.

 

[* * Chas]

| I have heard that you should not run two anti-virus program together
but
| i am here to tell you that I run Anti-vir and AVG on the one computer
| and find that between the two of them my computer is a lot cleaner and
| it stay running at a resonable speed.I also have 6 children using this
| computer and with these programs ruunning it still stay clean.
| thanxs
| lawrie

I visited my niece several years ago. Their computer was running a
corporate version of McAfees that was mandated by her husband's
employer. It had a firewall and all of the other bells and whistles and
was automatically updated daily.

The day before my visit, they had Comcast cable installed. My niece
asked me to look at their PC because it was acting differently. Her 7
year old daughter had been surfing the web. I found 127MB of porn flicks
that had been automatically D/L (I checked the file and folder dates to
make sure that someone hadn't been doing it intentionally).

I installed F-Prot, SpyBot. AdAware and AdSubtract and found 27
different hijackers, bad spyware programs and trojans that had slipped
past McAfees.

I keep at least 2 AV programs on all of my PCs but only one is set up
for full time protection, the others are used for on demand scanning. I
used Dr. Solomons as my main AV from 1996 until it's demise in 2000 then
I switched to Norton as my full time scanner.

It always amazed me when I ran an on demand scan with F-Prot, KAV or
some other program and they found something that NAV missed as a full
time scanner. NAV would instantly open a warning screen after the other
AV screen launched - Doh!

As far as you having 2 AV programs and 6 kids, I wouldn't be so smug
about your PC's safety (assuming that you are connected to the
Internet). The rule of thumb is not to have more than one full time AV
scanner running on a PC at the same time. The reason is that they can
and do conflict with each other and may miss a problem or give you a lot
of false positives.

You can have one running as a full time scanner and use the other for on
demand scans but you might want to temporarily disable the full time
scanner while using the other.

AV programs generally don't offer much in the way of spyware, trojan or
hijacker protection. You should get the free AdAware and SpyBot programs
and run them regularly.

Good luck...

Chas.

 

[Alan Pollock]

Only one of those products is an anti-virus application. Could be the
reason, eh?

Yep. It shows that overlaping monitors can co-exist on a system that has the
horsepower to handle the inevitable strain; an addition to the previous point.

Avast! is quite good. I use it only for manual scanning of files
received or downloaded.

I switched to Avast from AVG (no boot-time scan and a few other lacunae) about
a year ago. Before that I'd been a paid user of Kaspersky (even back when it
was still AVP), but it just got heavier and heavier with each new version.

I like Avast home free, and do its boot-time scan every couple of weeks as a
matter of course (it allows - among other things - for the 'repairing' of
system files from the vrdb before the os is loaded), and I appreciate the
non-outlook-specific email scanner. I may get the pro version for its
screensaver virus scanning, something Home free doesn't do, although Home does
allow vrdb updating while the screensaver is running. Nex

 

[optikl]

lawrie wrote:
I also have 6 children using this

computer and with these programs ruunning it still stay clean.

A little parental control might be more effective in the long-run.

 

[David H. Lipman]

From: "Alan Pollock" <[email protected]>


|
| I have real-time monitors running from avast, the cleaner, and msoft's malware
| product because their detections overlap. Never a problem, touch wood, nor is
| there ever a conflict. The very few times virii were found real time, avast
| was always the one to set the alarm bells ringing. I have a relatively fast
| system so the slowdown is hardly noticeable. Nex

Please note there is NO terminology as 'virii' or 'viri'. The plural of virus is viruses.

 

[nondisputandum]

I have heard that you should not run two anti-virus program together but
i am here to tell you that I run Anti-vir and AVG on the one computer
and find that between the two of them my computer is a lot cleaner and
it stay running at a resonable speed.I also have 6 children using this
computer and with these programs ruunning it still stay clean.
thanxs
lawrie

I agree with you.
Let the others say as they please,... one should not have two woman
either at the same time,... it is not supposed to work out either...
as they say...

BTW, I think that besides 6 children, you have a fairly potent PC
config, right ;-)

Besides,... AntiVirusKit does about the same with the Kaspersky and
Bitdefender engine if i'm well informed. Anyway, it gets the best
results in most tests compared to any other engine.

More:
http://www.nondisputandum.com/html/anti_virus.html

 

[kurt wismer]

From: "Alan Pollock" <[email protected]>
|
| I have real-time monitors running from avast, the cleaner, and msoft's malware
| product because their detections overlap. Never a problem, touch wood, nor is
| there ever a conflict. The very few times virii were found real time, avast
| was always the one to set the alarm bells ringing. I have a relatively fast
| system so the slowdown is hardly noticeable. Nex

Please note there is NO terminology as 'virii' or 'viri'. The plural of virus is viruses.

actually there is such a thing as viri - it's latin for 'men'... and if
someone wishes to express an affinity for viri, who are we to judge?

 

[Guest]

actually there is such a thing as viri - it's latin for 'men'... and if
someone wishes to express an affinity for viri, who are we to judge?

--
"they threw a rope around yer neck to watch you dance the jig of death
then left ya for the starvin' crows, hoverin' like hungry whores
one flew down plucked out yer eye, the other he had in his sights
ya snarled at him, said leave me be - i need the bugger so i can see"

We are people who speak properly.

 

[David H. Lipman]

From: "kurt wismer" <[email protected]>


|
| actually there is such a thing as viri - it's latin for 'men'... and if
| someone wishes to express an affinity for viri, who are we to judge?
|
| --
| "they threw a rope around yer neck to watch you dance the jig of death
| then left ya for the starvin' crows, hoverin' like hungry whores
| one flew down plucked out yer eye, the other he had in his sights
| ya snarled at him, said leave me be - i need the bugger so i can see"

That's correct, but out of context. Next time I phrase it for context Kurt ;-)

 

[bella]

Well that certainly put the cat among the pigdons
On a couple of points I wish to clear up
1. I do have a very stong parental control on the content that my children
download.
2. I was not trying now or then to be smug about the way my computer stays
clean with kids using it . It was just a statement.
3. I also run spybot and ad-aware on the system.
4. The system is an old P2 450 system and I have noticed hardly any
reducation in speed on this system.

To was to see all the replys to my statement that 2 a-v programs can
co-exist on a single PC

I wish all on the web and in this group a really great day and give thanks
to the internet of still allowing people with differing or the same opinion
a place to state that opinion with out fear

all the best

lawrie

 

[nondisputandum]

Your statement was most welcome

 

[Guest]

| I have heard that you should not run two anti-virus program together
but
| i am here to tell you that I run Anti-vir and AVG on the one computer
| and find that between the two of them my computer is a lot cleaner and
| it stay running at a resonable speed.I also have 6 children using this
| computer and with these programs ruunning it still stay clean.
| thanxs
| lawrie

I visited my niece several years ago. Their computer was running a
corporate version of McAfees that was mandated by her husband's
employer. It had a firewall and all of the other bells and whistles and
was automatically updated daily.

The day before my visit, they had Comcast cable installed. My niece
asked me to look at their PC because it was acting differently. Her 7
year old daughter had been surfing the web. I found 127MB of porn flicks
that had been automatically D/L (I checked the file and folder dates to
make sure that someone hadn't been doing it intentionally).

I purchased McAfees spyware protector. Horrible. Caused conflicts too. It is
now a coaster.