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[kurttrail]

Sure looked like a BS stance on section 117 to me.

I did say "any reasonable person." You don't qualify, because you just
say it's BS without disputing it in detail.

Care to site case
law examples were you are permitted to pirate additional
installations when only holding one license?

Nope. Not one software maker has ever brought one case to court where
an individual installed a copy of software on more than one computer.

Care to site one case law example where an individual was found guilty
of pirating software for installing software, that was legally sold to
them, on more than one computer?

Nope. I didn't think you could.

Until then, it ain't pirating, or theft, or even immoral. It is just he
said/it said, and each individual can decide for themselves who is King
in their Castle. Themselves, or the corporate copyright elite.

I'll leave that decision up to the individual. You want to impose MS
legally unsubstaniated EULA nonsense on everyone without any proof. And
that the difference between us. I believe people have the right to
decide for themselves, what is right for them to do in their own homes,
and you don't. You think Microsoft is their master, and can tell them
what they can and can't do. I am for the rule of law, and you are for
the rule of the corporation. I am for the rights of the individual, and
you are for the rights of the corporate tyrrany. I am a man of THE
PEOPLE, by THE PEOPLE, for THE PEOPLE, and you are a sycophant of
Corporate Fascism!

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[Don Burnette]

I did say "any reasonable person." You don't qualify, because you
just say it's BS without disputing it in detail.


Nope. Not one software maker has ever brought one case to court where
an individual installed a copy of software on more than one computer.

Care to site one case law example where an individual was found guilty
of pirating software for installing software, that was legally sold to
them, on more than one computer?

Nope. I didn't think you could.

Until then, it ain't pirating, or theft, or even immoral. It is just
he said/it said, and each individual can decide for themselves who is
King in their Castle. Themselves, or the corporate copyright elite.

I'll leave that decision up to the individual. You want to impose MS
legally unsubstaniated EULA nonsense on everyone without any proof. And
that the difference between us. I believe people have the right
to decide for themselves, what is right for them to do in their own
homes, and you don't. You think Microsoft is their master, and can
tell them what they can and can't do. I am for the rule of law, and
you are for the rule of the corporation. I am for the rights of the
individual, and you are for the rights of the corporate tyrrany. I
am a man of THE PEOPLE, by THE PEOPLE, for THE PEOPLE, and you are a
sycophant of Corporate Fascism!

You are correct. Everyone has the right to " choose". Some choose to be a
thief.
Keep on justifying it in your own mind. You ain't impressin anyone.

Once a thief, always a thief.

 

[kurttrail]

You are correct. Everyone has the right to " choose". Some choose to
be a thief.

LOL! Prove it, by showing one person that has been convicted of theft
for installing legally purchased software on more than one computer for
their private non-commercial use!

But I already know you can't, but you will continue to spread this
bold-faced lie anyway.

Keep on justifying it in your own mind. You ain't impressin anyone.

I ain't impressing MicroMorons and MicroSycophants. "Anyone" includes a
hell of a lot more people than MicroZombies!

Once a thief, always a thief.

Another broken record!

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[Leythos]

I did say "any reasonable person." You don't qualify, because you just
say it's BS without disputing it in detail.


Nope. Not one software maker has ever brought one case to court where
an individual installed a copy of software on more than one computer.

Care to site one case law example where an individual was found guilty
of pirating software for installing software, that was legally sold to
them, on more than one computer?

Nope. I didn't think you could.

Until then, it ain't pirating, or theft, or even immoral. It is just he
said/it said, and each individual can decide for themselves who is King
in their Castle. Themselves, or the corporate copyright elite.

There you go again, making ASSumptions - there are many Laws on the books,
many that have never been tested, but that does mean you can break them at
will without being in violation.

You fundamental flaw is that you CLAIM that since no one has been
prosecuted that you have the right to continue to violate the law and the
EULA at will. If people followed the laws there would be no need to
prosecute them. Prosecution is also a thing of give/take, where
consideration for costs and time are weighed against the action, at this
point it appears that the single user that pirates additional copies for
his home computers has not met the level of cost/time needed to cause MS
to prosecute - that does not make your actions legal.

You want to impose MS legally unsubstaniated EULA

See, you almost understand it - MS LEGALLY unsubstantiated EULA - the key
is LEGALLY. You advocate illegal actions, ones already against the
contract and against the law, you just want to be slapped in the face with
a case before you'll stop - well, just because there is no case doesn't
make it illegal.

I am a man of THE PEOPLE, by THE PEOPLE, for THE PEOPLE

That's what Saddam and Hitler thought too, same with most thief's and
trolls. You are only for yourself and have no interest in helping the
people, you only seek your own ends.

 

[kurttrail]

There you go again, making ASSumptions - there are many Laws on the
books, many that have never been tested, but that does mean you can
break them at will without being in violation.

You fundamental flaw is that you CLAIM that since no one has been
prosecuted that you have the right to continue to violate the law and
the EULA at will. If people followed the laws there would be no need
to prosecute them. Prosecution is also a thing of give/take, where
consideration for costs and time are weighed against the action, at
this point it appears that the single user that pirates additional
copies for his home computers has not met the level of cost/time
needed to cause MS to prosecute - that does not make your actions
legal.

It doesn't make them Illegal. You have yet to come up with one law that
makes installing legally purchased software on more than one computer
for private non-commercial use illegal.

A contract is not the law.

See, you almost understand it - MS LEGALLY unsubstantiated EULA - the
key is LEGALLY. You advocate illegal actions, ones already against the
contract and against the law, you just want to be slapped in the face
with a case before you'll stop - well, just because there is no case
doesn't make it illegal.

No. I advocate "fair use" of software by private non-commercial
individual, and no law or legal precedent makes it illegal.

That's what Saddam and Hitler thought too, same with most thief's and
trolls. You are only for yourself and have no interest in helping the
people, you only seek your own ends.

LOL! They may have said something along those lines, but their actions
made a lie out of them.

I seek the rights of the people in their homes over that of the
corporate copyright elite. If the corporate copyright elite doesn't
like it, then they should stop selling their copyrighted material to
private non-commercial individuals.

"The protection given to copyrights is wholly statutory, and, in a case
like this, in which Congress has not plainly marked the course to be
followed by the judiciary, this Court must be circumspect in construing
the scope of rights created by a statute that never contemplated such a
calculus of interests. Any individual may reproduce a copyrighted work
for a "fair use"; the copyright owner does not possess the exclusive
right to such a use." - The US Supreme Court

I'll take the words of the Supreme Court over yours, the other
sycophants, and the Corporate Copyright Elite every day of the week.

And if you don't like it, sue me!

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[Dan]

LOL, Kurt you are an intriguing individual and I feel that you do have some
valid points.

: Leythos wrote:
: > On Thu, 10 Feb 2005 00:43:38 -0500, kurttrail wrote:
: >
: >> Leythos wrote:
: >>> On Wed, 09 Feb 2005 23:48:20 -0500, kurttrail wrote:
: >>>
: >>>> Any reasonable person reading it can see that my
: >>>> intepretation is not "discredited nonsence" but rather a very valid
: >>>> and thoughtful interpretation of Section 117.
: >>>
: >>> Sure looked like a BS stance on section 117 to me.
: >>
: >> I did say "any reasonable person." You don't qualify, because you
: >> just say it's BS without disputing it in detail.
: >>
: >>> Care to site case
: >>> law examples were you are permitted to pirate additional
: >>> installations when only holding one license?
: >>
: >> Nope. Not one software maker has ever brought one case to court
: >> where an individual installed a copy of software on more than one
: >> computer.
: >>
: >> Care to site one case law example where an individual was found
: >> guilty of pirating software for installing software, that was
: >> legally sold to them, on more than one computer?
: >>
: >> Nope. I didn't think you could.
: >>
: >> Until then, it ain't pirating, or theft, or even immoral. It is
: >> just he said/it said, and each individual can decide for themselves
: >> who is King in their Castle. Themselves, or the corporate copyright
: >> elite.
: >
: > There you go again, making ASSumptions - there are many Laws on the
: > books, many that have never been tested, but that does mean you can
: > break them at will without being in violation.
: >
: > You fundamental flaw is that you CLAIM that since no one has been
: > prosecuted that you have the right to continue to violate the law and
: > the EULA at will. If people followed the laws there would be no need
: > to prosecute them. Prosecution is also a thing of give/take, where
: > consideration for costs and time are weighed against the action, at
: > this point it appears that the single user that pirates additional
: > copies for his home computers has not met the level of cost/time
: > needed to cause MS to prosecute - that does not make your actions
: > legal.
:
: It doesn't make them Illegal. You have yet to come up with one law that
: makes installing legally purchased software on more than one computer
: for private non-commercial use illegal.
:
: A contract is not the law.
:
: >
: >> You want to impose MS legally unsubstaniated EULA
: >
: > See, you almost understand it - MS LEGALLY unsubstantiated EULA - the
: > key is LEGALLY. You advocate illegal actions, ones already against the
: > contract and against the law, you just want to be slapped in the face
: > with a case before you'll stop - well, just because there is no case
: > doesn't make it illegal.
:
: No. I advocate "fair use" of software by private non-commercial
: individual, and no law or legal precedent makes it illegal.
:
: >
: >> I am a man of THE PEOPLE, by THE PEOPLE, for THE PEOPLE
: >
: > That's what Saddam and Hitler thought too, same with most thief's and
: > trolls. You are only for yourself and have no interest in helping the
: > people, you only seek your own ends.
:
: LOL! They may have said something along those lines, but their actions
: made a lie out of them.
:
: I seek the rights of the people in their homes over that of the
: corporate copyright elite. If the corporate copyright elite doesn't
: like it, then they should stop selling their copyrighted material to
: private non-commercial individuals.
:
: "The protection given to copyrights is wholly statutory, and, in a case
: like this, in which Congress has not plainly marked the course to be
: followed by the judiciary, this Court must be circumspect in construing
: the scope of rights created by a statute that never contemplated such a
: calculus of interests. Any individual may reproduce a copyrighted work
: for a "fair use"; the copyright owner does not possess the exclusive
: right to such a use." - The US Supreme Court
:
: I'll take the words of the Supreme Court over yours, the other
: sycophants, and the Corporate Copyright Elite every day of the week.
:
: And if you don't like it, sue me!
:
: --
: Peace!
: Kurt
: Self-anointed Moderator
: microscum.pubic.windowsexp.gonorrhea
: http://microscum.com
: "Trustworthy Computing" is only another example of an Oxymoron!
: "Produkt-Aktivierung macht frei"
:
:

 

[Bruce Chambers]

I feel that you do have some
valid points.

Really? If so, he's certainly been keeping them to himself.


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[Woody]

twit

 

[kurttrail]

Really? If so, he's certainly been keeping them to himself.

Open eyes and mind, and keep your arm down!

http://microscum.com/bruce/

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[LabiaLicker]

Really? If so, he's certainly been keeping them to himself.

No, that's just your inability to pull your lips from BG's ass and see things
with your eyes open. It wouldn't hurt too for you to get a breath of fresh air
while your head is out, and see if it'll help you acquire your first in life
synapse.

 

[Guest]

You got beat up in high school, dident you?

 

[Guest]

You got beat up in high school, dident you?

 

[Guest]

Yeah but you could say that a person came up neagtive for good health

 

[Guest]

Oh come on, You are burning up. Let it out. please stop using your gay
internet lingo "troll" most people have no clue what you are talking about.

 

[Guest]

Wow I still can’t get over the narrow mindedness of most of you. The truth is
subjectable. The truth is what you have decided it is. My truths are forever
changing because new facts present themselves all the time that change the
course of what I believe. Most people can not handle the fact that THERE IS
NO ABSOLUTE TRUTH. So they find something to stick to and then brainwash
themselves to believe it. Trust me I know your pain your poor little fellows.
You need to stick to your idea of absolute truth or your fake world will
crumble.

"We are all part of the same compost heap"

 

[Guest]

Im clapping at my desk right now

I did say "any reasonable person." You don't qualify, because you just
say it's BS without disputing it in detail.


Nope. Not one software maker has ever brought one case to court where
an individual installed a copy of software on more than one computer.

Care to site one case law example where an individual was found guilty
of pirating software for installing software, that was legally sold to
them, on more than one computer?

Nope. I didn't think you could.

Until then, it ain't pirating, or theft, or even immoral. It is just he
said/it said, and each individual can decide for themselves who is King
in their Castle. Themselves, or the corporate copyright elite.

I'll leave that decision up to the individual. You want to impose MS
legally unsubstaniated EULA nonsense on everyone without any proof. And
that the difference between us. I believe people have the right to
decide for themselves, what is right for them to do in their own homes,
and you don't. You think Microsoft is their master, and can tell them
what they can and can't do. I am for the rule of law, and you are for
the rule of the corporation. I am for the rights of the individual, and
you are for the rights of the corporate tyrrany. I am a man of THE
PEOPLE, by THE PEOPLE, for THE PEOPLE, and you are a sycophant of
Corporate Fascism!

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"Trustworthy Computing" is only another example of an Oxymoron!
"Produkt-Aktivierung macht frei"

 

[kurttrail]

Im clapping at my desk right now

You should see a doctor about that! ;-)

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[Guest]

so should your mother

You should see a doctor about that! ;-)

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[kurttrail]

so should your mother

She does.

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[Dan]

Plonk (LOL) I actually did some of the beating up.

: You got beat up in high school, dident you?
:
: "Dan" wrote:
:
: > However, 2 negatives do make a positive in math. Also, if you have two
: > electrons they naturally repel and it is the same with 2 protons.
However,
: > neutrons have no charge.
: >
: > : > : 2 wrongs dont make a right!
: > :
: > : "Ron Bogart" wrote:
: > :
: > : > In : > : > Anthony <[email protected]> did some thinking and
came up
: > : > with these words:
: > : > > lol those mvp's must be burnnning up over this
: > : > >
: > : > > "kurttrail" wrote:
: > : > >
: > : > >> http://microscum.com/msmvphos/
: > : > >>
: > : > >> --
: > : > >> Peace!
: > : > >> Kurt
: > : > >> Self-anointed Moderator
: > : > >> microscum.pubic.windowsexp.gonorrhea
: > : > >> http://microscum.com
: > : > >> "Trustworthy Computing" is only another example of an Oxymoron!
: > : > >> "Produkt-Aktivierung macht frei"
: > : >
: > : > Yes - I would imagine they are steamed at such an adolescent act.
Most
: > : > probably are rather proud to be singled out by idiots.
: > : >
: > : > --
: > : > Ron Bogart {} ô¿ô¬
: > : > Associate Expert
: > : > Expert Zone -
: > : > Lovin life on Mercer Island 8^)
: > : > "Life is what happens while we are making other plans."
: > : >
: > : >
: > : >
: >
: >
: >