ANN: MS Announces Changes for Accessing Hotmail with Outlook Express

[PA Bear [MS MVP]]

cf. http://emailsupport.spaces.live.com/Blog/cns!5D6F5A79A79B6708!5441.entry
--
~PA Bear

To correct myself...

Hotmail customers are able to utilize POP3, or as mentioned below, other
clients such as Thunderbird.

I meant Hotmail PLUS customers are able to utilize POP3 as they currently
do...

Hello All,

I wanted to take some time to address the concerns/questions that have
started on this thread.

Microsoft is doing this to force people onto the client: False. We are
doing this because the DAV protocol is inefficient on larger mailbox
sizes.
Once Hotmail upgrade storage space synchronization issues happen within
DAV.
DeltaSynch is a stable protocol that will be able to efficiently handle
large
accounts.

This locks people into a Microsoft client to access Hotmail: False.
Hotmail
customers are able to utilize POP3, or as mentioned below, other clients
such
as Thunderbird. Though Live Mail is optimized for usage against Hotmail,
it
is not the single choice for connection. You will also be able to
continue
full access through your browser.

Does this affect Live Hotmail and Outlook Connector - Yes. Any user
utilizing Outlook connector 1.8 or earlier will need to upgrade to the
new
OLC. Live Mail is currently DeltaSynch ready and Live Hotmail is
available
through your browser.


--
Scott Hammer
Sr. Supportability Program Manager
Windows Live Mail Technologies
Microsoft Corporation

[Crossposted to OE General, OE6, IE General, & IE6 newsgroups;
Followup-To
set for OE General]

Microsoft Announces Changes for Accessing Hotmail with Outlook Express
<quote>
As of June 30, 2008, Microsoft is disabling the DAV protocol and you
will
no
longer be able to access your Hotmail Inbox [or other Hotmail folders]
via
Outlook Express...
</quote>
Source:
http://emailsupport.spaces.live.com/Blog/cns!5D6F5A79A79B6708!5359.entry

======================

Please Note:

1. Installing Windows Live Mail /may/ disable your access to Outlook
Express.

2. Installing Windows Live Mail /may/ change your default Mail Client
from
Outlook Express to Windows Live Mail.

3. The Windows Live "all-in-one" installer /may/ install more than just
Windows Live Mail. If you decide to try Windows Live Mail, UNCHECK any
unwanted Windows Live applications (e.g., Windows Live Messenger;
Windows
Live Toolbar; Windows Live Family Safety) before proceeding with the
installation!
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Windows Live Mail-specific newsgroup:
microsoft.public.windows.live.mail.desktop

Via the web-interface:
http://www.microsoft.com/communitie...dg=microsoft.public.windows.live.mail.desktop

Via your newsreader:
news://msnews.microsoft.com/microsoft.public.windows.live.mail.desktop
--
~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Desktop Experience - since 2002
AumHa VSOP & Admin http://aumha.net
DTS-L http://dts-l.net/

 

[...winston]

Does this affect Live Hotmail and Outlook Connector - Yes. Any user
utilizing Outlook connector 1.8 or earlier will need to upgrade to the new
OLC. Live Mail is currently DeltaSynch ready and Live Hotmail is available
through your browser.


--
Scott Hammer
Sr. Supportability Program Manager
Windows Live Mail Technologies
Microsoft Corporation

Scott,
The above (1.8 or later) may be somewhat confusing to those having Office available but currently using OE for Hotmail.

a. The version number of the current available Outlook Connector on the msft download site is [4]
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/...6a-931e-438a-950c-5e9ea66322d4&displaylang=en

b. On the same site and within the available downloadable *.doc/*.docx file for the current OL Connector is referred to as version
12.0
"Microsoft Office Outlook Connector 12.0"

 

[Chris]

:

NB: There are Windows Live Hotmail subscribers who currently access their
account(s) in OE via POP3. This change will not affect them.

Thank you for this information. So does this mean that when the new changes
take place on 30 June that:

1-Only HTTP Hotmail will stop working with Outlook Express and POP3 access
will carry on as usual?
2- MSN Messenger will stop working unless live mail is installed?
3- One cannot install both live mail and outlook express?

I have a subscription hotmail account and currently access it with both POP3
and HTTP with simultaneous syncronization. I do not really wish to change to
windows live mail so I really hope that I can continue using Hotmail with
POP3. With the new changes I will miss not being able to access "Sent Items"
and "Bulk Mail" from Outlook Express on the HTTP server, but so be it.

Kind Regards
Chris

 

[PA Bear [MS MVP]]

If you're currently able to access your Hotmail account in OE or OL /via
POP3/ (e.g., as a Hotmail Plus subscriber or an Outlook Connector user), the
change will not affect you.

If you're currently able to access your Hotmail account in OE or OL /via
WebDAV/ (aka HTML) as a Hotmail Plus subscriber or an Outlook Connector
user, you must switch to POP3 access by 30 June 2008; see set-up instrux
here:
http://liveunplugged.spaces.live.com/blog/cns!F92775FC46A390CA!171.entry.

At some time in the near future, Outlook Connector users will have to
upgrade the application.

AFAIK MSN/Windows Live Messenger functionality is *not* dependant on having
Windows Live Mail installed. (There are specific newsgroups for both
Messengers where you can ask about this.)

One can have both Windows Live Mail and OE installed (in WinXP SP2) but only
one of them can be the default Mail Client. Installing Windows Live Mail in
WinXP SP2 will delete your shortcuts to OE in Start menu and Quick Launch
bar.

 

[Chris]

Thanks, just what I needed to know.

Kind Regards
Chris

 

[SaGS]

...
Found an interesting blog of a meeting at:

POP3 on Hotmail Explained: we talk to Omar Shahine
http://www.liveside.net/blogs/interview/default.aspx

which has the meeting recorded (audio only) at:
http://www.liveside.net/files/folders/5578/download.aspx
...

I have to correct something said in that interview: GMAil *DOES* have IMAP
support for quite some time now (but I am not very sure when it was
introduced, relative to that interview's date). So when DAV support for
Hotmail goes away, I think I'll switch completely to GMail. My Hotmail
account will probably have the same faith as my Yahoo! account: 100% unused,
because of not being able to access it from OE.

 

[GEEKETTE]

What will happen to my mom who uses OE WIN98SE with DSL off of our XP network
home hub to get email from msn, sbc and gmail accounts? She manages groups
for seniors and keeps it all organized by the email address but is able to
deal with all of it in WIN98SE OE - The MSN accts appear to be http, the sbc
and gmail are pop/smtp - I'm not an expert, just want to prepare her. She'd
love to keep things just the way she uses it now...

 

[Frank Saunders MS-MVP IE,OE/WM]

Use Internet Explorer.

What will happen to my mom who uses OE WIN98SE with DSL off of our XP
network
home hub to get email from msn, sbc and gmail accounts? She manages
groups
for seniors and keeps it all organized by the email address but is able to
deal with all of it in WIN98SE OE - The MSN accts appear to be http, the
sbc
and gmail are pop/smtp - I'm not an expert, just want to prepare her.
She'd
love to keep things just the way she uses it now...

[Crossposted to OE General, OE6, IE General, & IE6 newsgroups;
Followup-To
set for OE General]

Microsoft Announces Changes for Accessing Hotmail with Outlook Express
<quote>
As of June 30, 2008, Microsoft is disabling the DAV protocol and you will
no
longer be able to access your Hotmail Inbox [or other Hotmail folders]
via
Outlook Express...
</quote>
Source:
http://emailsupport.spaces.live.com/Blog/cns!5D6F5A79A79B6708!5359.entry

======================

Please Note:

1. Installing Windows Live Mail /may/ disable your access to Outlook
Express.

2. Installing Windows Live Mail /may/ change your default Mail Client
from
Outlook Express to Windows Live Mail.

3. The Windows Live "all-in-one" installer /may/ install more than just
Windows Live Mail. If you decide to try Windows Live Mail, UNCHECK any
unwanted Windows Live applications (e.g., Windows Live Messenger; Windows
Live Toolbar; Windows Live Family Safety) before proceeding with the
installation!
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Windows Live Mail-specific newsgroup:
microsoft.public.windows.live.mail.desktop

Via the web-interface:
http://www.microsoft.com/communitie...dg=microsoft.public.windows.live.mail.desktop

Via your newsreader:
news://msnews.microsoft.com/microsoft.public.windows.live.mail.desktop

 

[PA Bear [MS MVP]]

Mom will have to subscribe to Windows Live Hotmail Plus (US$19.95/year)and
then reconfigure the account to be accessed via POP3 before 30 June 2008.
--
~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Desktop Experience - since 2002
AumHa VSOP & Admin http://aumha.net
DTS-L http://dts-l.net/

What will happen to my mom who uses OE WIN98SE with DSL off of our XP
network home hub to get email from msn, sbc and gmail accounts? She
manages groups for seniors and keeps it all organized by the email address
but is able to deal with all of it in WIN98SE OE - The MSN accts appear to
be http, the sbc and gmail are pop/smtp - I'm not an expert, just want to
prepare her. She'd love to keep things just the way she uses it now...

[Crossposted to OE General, OE6, IE General, & IE6 newsgroups;
Followup-To
set for OE General]

Microsoft Announces Changes for Accessing Hotmail with Outlook Express
<quote>
As of June 30, 2008, Microsoft is disabling the DAV protocol and you will
no longer be able to access your Hotmail Inbox [or other Hotmail folders]
via Outlook Express...
</quote>
Source:
http://emailsupport.spaces.live.com/Blog/cns!5D6F5A79A79B6708!5359.entry

======================

Please Note:

1. Installing Windows Live Mail /may/ disable your access to Outlook
Express.

2. Installing Windows Live Mail /may/ change your default Mail Client
from
Outlook Express to Windows Live Mail.

3. The Windows Live "all-in-one" installer /may/ install more than just
Windows Live Mail. If you decide to try Windows Live Mail, UNCHECK any
unwanted Windows Live applications (e.g., Windows Live Messenger; Windows
Live Toolbar; Windows Live Family Safety) before proceeding with the
installation!
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Windows Live Mail-specific newsgroup:
microsoft.public.windows.live.mail.desktop

Via the web-interface:
http://www.microsoft.com/communitie...dg=microsoft.public.windows.live.mail.desktop

Via your newsreader:
news://msnews.microsoft.com/microsoft.public.windows.live.mail.desktop
--
~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Desktop Experience - since 2002
AumHa VSOP & Admin http://aumha.net
DTS-L http://dts-l.net/

 

[ANONYMOUS]

She will need to download and start using Windows Live Mail available free of charge from here:

http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/...45f6-4d14-a7dc-51e13d11a950&displaylang=en&tm

The service is completely free as far as I know because I am using it!!!

What will happen to my mom who uses OE WIN98SE with DSL off of our XP network
home hub to get email from msn, sbc and gmail accounts? She manages groups
for seniors and keeps it all organized by the email address but is able to
deal with all of it in WIN98SE OE - The MSN accts appear to be http, the sbc
and gmail are pop/smtp - I'm not an expert, just want to prepare her. She'd
love to keep things just the way she uses it now...

[Crossposted to OE General, OE6, IE General, & IE6 newsgroups; Followup-To
set for OE General]

Microsoft Announces Changes for Accessing Hotmail with Outlook Express
<quote>
As of June 30, 2008, Microsoft is disabling the DAV protocol and you will no
longer be able to access your Hotmail Inbox [or other Hotmail folders] via
Outlook Express...
</quote>
Source:
http://emailsupport.spaces.live.com/Blog/cns!5D6F5A79A79B6708!5359.entry

======================

Please Note:

1. Installing Windows Live Mail /may/ disable your access to Outlook
Express.

2. Installing Windows Live Mail /may/ change your default Mail Client from
Outlook Express to Windows Live Mail.

3. The Windows Live "all-in-one" installer /may/ install more than just
Windows Live Mail. If you decide to try Windows Live Mail, UNCHECK any
unwanted Windows Live applications (e.g., Windows Live Messenger; Windows
Live Toolbar; Windows Live Family Safety) before proceeding with the
installation!
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Windows Live Mail-specific newsgroup:
microsoft.public.windows.live.mail.desktop

Via the web-interface:
http://www.microsoft.com/communitie...dg=microsoft.public.windows.live.mail.desktop

Via your newsreader:
news://msnews.microsoft.com/microsoft.public.windows.live.mail.desktop
--
~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Desktop Experience - since 2002
AumHa VSOP & Admin http://aumha.net
DTS-L http://dts-l.net/

 

[ANONYMOUS]

I have to correct something said in that interview: GMAil *DOES* have IMAP
support for quite some time now (but I am not very sure when it was
introduced, relative to that interview's date). So when DAV support for
Hotmail goes away, I think I'll switch completely to GMail. My Hotmail
account will probably have the same faith as my Yahoo! account: 100% unused,
because of not being able to access it from OE.

You can access yahoo.co.uk in Outlook Express, Outlook or any other email client
you care to use (BUT YOU CAN'T ACCESS YAHOO.COM). Also, Windows Live Mail is a
replacement for OE and one should try it before changing email accounts. It
allows access to hotmail account.

 

[GEEKETTE]

She does pay $19.95 per year - will she not be affected? Are there any
changes she needs to make to the way her OE gets her MSN Mail? It is http:
in the settings, the other two are pop3.

She doesn't like the process she has to go through to keep her mail handy
using the gmail or sbc interface, I'm not sure how she'll feel about the New
Win webmail. Still, will the new Windows Live Mail install on WIN98? I
would guess not but couldn't find any specifics on that either.

Thanks for the help!

What will happen to my mom who uses OE WIN98SE with DSL off of our XP network
home hub to get email from msn, sbc and gmail accounts? She manages groups
for seniors and keeps it all organized by the email address but is able to
deal with all of it in WIN98SE OE - The MSN accts appear to be http, the sbc
and gmail are pop/smtp - I'm not an expert, just want to prepare her. She'd
love to keep things just the way she uses it now...

[Crossposted to OE General, OE6, IE General, & IE6 newsgroups; Followup-To
set for OE General]

Microsoft Announces Changes for Accessing Hotmail with Outlook Express
<quote>
As of June 30, 2008, Microsoft is disabling the DAV protocol and you will no
longer be able to access your Hotmail Inbox [or other Hotmail folders] via
Outlook Express...
</quote>
Source:
http://emailsupport.spaces.live.com/Blog/cns!5D6F5A79A79B6708!5359.entry

======================

Please Note:

1. Installing Windows Live Mail /may/ disable your access to Outlook
Express.

2. Installing Windows Live Mail /may/ change your default Mail Client from
Outlook Express to Windows Live Mail.

3. The Windows Live "all-in-one" installer /may/ install more than just
Windows Live Mail. If you decide to try Windows Live Mail, UNCHECK any
unwanted Windows Live applications (e.g., Windows Live Messenger; Windows
Live Toolbar; Windows Live Family Safety) before proceeding with the
installation!
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Windows Live Mail-specific newsgroup:
microsoft.public.windows.live.mail.desktop

Via the web-interface:
http://www.microsoft.com/communitie...dg=microsoft.public.windows.live.mail.desktop

Via your newsreader:
news://msnews.microsoft.com/microsoft.public.windows.live.mail.desktop
--
~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Desktop Experience - since 2002
AumHa VSOP & Admin http://aumha.net
DTS-L http://dts-l.net/

 

[GEEKETTE]

Any ides where to find the info to reconfigure it? I can probably make the
changes but I wouldn't know what the settings should be changed to. Thanks
for all the help folks!

Mom will have to subscribe to Windows Live Hotmail Plus (US$19.95/year)and
then reconfigure the account to be accessed via POP3 before 30 June 2008.
--
~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Desktop Experience - since 2002
AumHa VSOP & Admin http://aumha.net
DTS-L http://dts-l.net/

What will happen to my mom who uses OE WIN98SE with DSL off of our XP
network home hub to get email from msn, sbc and gmail accounts? She
manages groups for seniors and keeps it all organized by the email address
but is able to deal with all of it in WIN98SE OE - The MSN accts appear to
be http, the sbc and gmail are pop/smtp - I'm not an expert, just want to
prepare her. She'd love to keep things just the way she uses it now...

[Crossposted to OE General, OE6, IE General, & IE6 newsgroups;
Followup-To
set for OE General]

Microsoft Announces Changes for Accessing Hotmail with Outlook Express
<quote>
As of June 30, 2008, Microsoft is disabling the DAV protocol and you will
no longer be able to access your Hotmail Inbox [or other Hotmail folders]
via Outlook Express...
</quote>
Source:
http://emailsupport.spaces.live.com/Blog/cns!5D6F5A79A79B6708!5359.entry

======================

Please Note:

1. Installing Windows Live Mail /may/ disable your access to Outlook
Express.

2. Installing Windows Live Mail /may/ change your default Mail Client
from
Outlook Express to Windows Live Mail.

3. The Windows Live "all-in-one" installer /may/ install more than just
Windows Live Mail. If you decide to try Windows Live Mail, UNCHECK any
unwanted Windows Live applications (e.g., Windows Live Messenger; Windows
Live Toolbar; Windows Live Family Safety) before proceeding with the
installation!
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Windows Live Mail-specific newsgroup:
microsoft.public.windows.live.mail.desktop

Via the web-interface:
http://www.microsoft.com/communitie...dg=microsoft.public.windows.live.mail.desktop

Via your newsreader:
news://msnews.microsoft.com/microsoft.public.windows.live.mail.desktop
--
~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Desktop Experience - since 2002
AumHa VSOP & Admin http://aumha.net
DTS-L http://dts-l.net/

 

[mae]

No, the new mail will not install on "98;
Since she apparently has what is called Live Hotmail Plus?,
she can change the server from http to POP.
If you sign-in to the Live Hotmail account on the web,
there are full instructions for the settings.
It is one of the FAQ's.
I have set that up on a 98 for a test and it works.
I do have to set the filters, options etc. on the web (at this time)

mae

| She does pay $19.95 per year - will she not be affected? Are there any
| changes she needs to make to the way her OE gets her MSN Mail? It is http:
| in the settings, the other two are pop3.
|
| She doesn't like the process she has to go through to keep her mail handy
| using the gmail or sbc interface, I'm not sure how she'll feel about the New
| Win webmail. Still, will the new Windows Live Mail install on WIN98? I
| would guess not but couldn't find any specifics on that either.
|
| Thanks for the help!
|
| "GEEKETTE" wrote:
|
| > What will happen to my mom who uses OE WIN98SE with DSL off of our XP
network
| > home hub to get email from msn, sbc and gmail accounts? She manages groups
| > for seniors and keeps it all organized by the email address but is able to
| > deal with all of it in WIN98SE OE - The MSN accts appear to be http, the sbc
| > and gmail are pop/smtp - I'm not an expert, just want to prepare her. She'd
| > love to keep things just the way she uses it now...
| >
| > "PA Bear [MS MVP]" wrote:
| >
| > > [Crossposted to OE General, OE6, IE General, & IE6 newsgroups; Followup-To
| > > set for OE General]
| > >
| > > Microsoft Announces Changes for Accessing Hotmail with Outlook Express
| > > <quote>
| > > As of June 30, 2008, Microsoft is disabling the DAV protocol and you will
no
| > > longer be able to access your Hotmail Inbox [or other Hotmail folders] via
| > > Outlook Express...
| > > </quote>
| > > Source:
| > > http://emailsupport.spaces.live.com/Blog/cns!5D6F5A79A79B6708!5359.entry
| > >
| > > ======================
| > >
| > > Please Note:
| > >
| > > 1. Installing Windows Live Mail /may/ disable your access to Outlook
| > > Express.
| > >
| > > 2. Installing Windows Live Mail /may/ change your default Mail Client from
| > > Outlook Express to Windows Live Mail.
| > >
| > > 3. The Windows Live "all-in-one" installer /may/ install more than just
| > > Windows Live Mail. If you decide to try Windows Live Mail, UNCHECK any
| > > unwanted Windows Live applications (e.g., Windows Live Messenger; Windows
| > > Live Toolbar; Windows Live Family Safety) before proceeding with the
| > > installation!
| > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
| > >
| > > Windows Live Mail-specific newsgroup:
| > > microsoft.public.windows.live.mail.desktop
| > >
| > > Via the web-interface:
| > >
http://www.microsoft.com/communitie...dg=microsoft.public.windows.live.mail.desktop
| > >
| > > Via your newsreader:
| > > news://msnews.microsoft.com/microsoft.public.windows.live.mail.desktop
| > > --
| > > ~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
| > > MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Desktop Experience - since 2002
| > > AumHa VSOP & Admin http://aumha.net
| > > DTS-L http://dts-l.net/
| > >
| > >

 

[PA Bear [MS MVP]]

See the settings for POP3 access here:
http://liveunplugged.spaces.live.com/blog/cns!F92775FC46A390CA!171.entry
--
~PA Bear

Any ides where to find the info to reconfigure it? I can probably make
the
changes but I wouldn't know what the settings should be changed to.
Thanks
for all the help folks!

She does pay $19.95 per year - will she not be affected? Are there any
changes she needs to make to the way her OE gets her MSN Mail? It is
http:
in the settings, the other two are pop3.

She doesn't like the process she has to go through to keep her mail handy
using the gmail or sbc interface, I'm not sure how she'll feel about the
New
Win webmail. Still, will the new Windows Live Mail install on WIN98? I
would guess not but couldn't find any specifics on that either.

Mom will have to subscribe to Windows Live Hotmail Plus
(US$19.95/year)and
then reconfigure the account to be accessed via POP3 before 30 June 2008.
--
~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Desktop Experience - since 2002
AumHa VSOP & Admin http://aumha.net
DTS-L http://dts-l.net/

What will happen to my mom who uses OE WIN98SE with DSL off of our XP
network home hub to get email from msn, sbc and gmail accounts? She
manages groups for seniors and keeps it all organized by the email
address
but is able to deal with all of it in WIN98SE OE - The MSN accts appear
to
be http, the sbc and gmail are pop/smtp - I'm not an expert, just want
to
prepare her. She'd love to keep things just the way she uses it now...

:

[Crossposted to OE General, OE6, IE General, & IE6 newsgroups;
Followup-To
set for OE General]

Microsoft Announces Changes for Accessing Hotmail with Outlook Express
<quote>
As of June 30, 2008, Microsoft is disabling the DAV protocol and you
will
no longer be able to access your Hotmail Inbox [or other Hotmail
folders]
via Outlook Express...
</quote>
Source:
http://emailsupport.spaces.live.com/Blog/cns!5D6F5A79A79B6708!5359.entry

======================

Please Note:

1. Installing Windows Live Mail /may/ disable your access to Outlook
Express.

2. Installing Windows Live Mail /may/ change your default Mail Client
from
Outlook Express to Windows Live Mail.

3. The Windows Live "all-in-one" installer /may/ install more than just
Windows Live Mail. If you decide to try Windows Live Mail, UNCHECK any
unwanted Windows Live applications (e.g., Windows Live Messenger;
Windows
Live Toolbar; Windows Live Family Safety) before proceeding with the
installation!
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Windows Live Mail-specific newsgroup:
microsoft.public.windows.live.mail.desktop

Via the web-interface:
http://www.microsoft.com/communitie...dg=microsoft.public.windows.live.mail.desktop

Via your newsreader:
news://msnews.microsoft.com/microsoft.public.windows.live.mail.desktop
--
~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Desktop Experience - since 2002
AumHa VSOP & Admin http://aumha.net
DTS-L http://dts-l.net/

 

[PA Bear [MS MVP]]

Please do some research before posting such information: Windows Live Mail
is *not* supported in Win9x.
--
~PA Bear

She will need to download and start using Windows Live Mail available free
of charge from here:

http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/...45f6-4d14-a7dc-51e13d11a950&displaylang=en&tm

The service is completely free as far as I know because I am using it!!!

What will happen to my mom who uses OE WIN98SE with DSL off of our XP
network home hub to get email from msn, sbc and gmail accounts? She
manages groups for seniors and keeps it all organized by the email
address
but is able to deal with all of it in WIN98SE OE - The MSN accts appear
to
be http, the sbc and gmail are pop/smtp - I'm not an expert, just want to
prepare her. She'd love to keep things just the way she uses it now...

[Crossposted to OE General, OE6, IE General, & IE6 newsgroups;
Followup-To
set for OE General]

Microsoft Announces Changes for Accessing Hotmail with Outlook Express
<quote>
As of June 30, 2008, Microsoft is disabling the DAV protocol and you
will
no longer be able to access your Hotmail Inbox [or other Hotmail
folders]
via Outlook Express...
</quote>
Source:
http://emailsupport.spaces.live.com/Blog/cns!5D6F5A79A79B6708!5359.entry

======================

Please Note:

1. Installing Windows Live Mail /may/ disable your access to Outlook
Express.

2. Installing Windows Live Mail /may/ change your default Mail Client
from
Outlook Express to Windows Live Mail.

3. The Windows Live "all-in-one" installer /may/ install more than just
Windows Live Mail. If you decide to try Windows Live Mail, UNCHECK any
unwanted Windows Live applications (e.g., Windows Live Messenger;
Windows
Live Toolbar; Windows Live Family Safety) before proceeding with the
installation!
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Windows Live Mail-specific newsgroup:
microsoft.public.windows.live.mail.desktop

Via the web-interface:
http://www.microsoft.com/communitie...dg=microsoft.public.windows.live.mail.desktop

Via your newsreader:
news://msnews.microsoft.com/microsoft.public.windows.live.mail.desktop
--
~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Desktop Experience - since 2002
AumHa VSOP & Admin http://aumha.net
DTS-L http://dts-l.net/

 

[PA Bear [MS MVP]]

You can access yahoo.co.uk in Outlook Express, Outlook or any other email
client you care to use (BUT YOU CAN'T ACCESS YAHOO.COM). Also, Windows
Live Mail is a replacement for OE and one should try it before changing
email accounts. It allows access to hotmail account.

There are several ways to access a US- and CA-based Yahoo account via POP3.

Windows Live Mail is an alternate mail client, it is not a replacement for
OE.

 

[Frank Saunders MS-MVP IE,OE/WM]

She will need to download and start using Windows Live Mail available free
of charge from here:

The service is completely free as far as I know because I am using it!!!

Can't.
She has Win98.

 

[David Morgan \(MAMS\)]

Use Internet Explorer.

I see no reason that this isn't THE correct answer

What will happen to my mom who uses OE WIN98SE with DSL off of our XP
network
home hub to get email from msn, sbc and gmail accounts? She manages
groups
for seniors and keeps it all organized by the email address but is able to
deal with all of it in WIN98SE OE - The MSN accts appear to be http, the
sbc
and gmail are pop/smtp - I'm not an expert, just want to prepare her.
She'd
love to keep things just the way she uses it now...

[Crossposted to OE General, OE6, IE General, & IE6 newsgroups;
Followup-To
set for OE General]

Microsoft Announces Changes for Accessing Hotmail with Outlook Express
<quote>
As of June 30, 2008, Microsoft is disabling the DAV protocol and you will
no
longer be able to access your Hotmail Inbox [or other Hotmail folders]
via
Outlook Express...
</quote>
Source:
http://emailsupport.spaces.live.com/Blog/cns!5D6F5A79A79B6708!5359.entry

======================

Please Note:

1. Installing Windows Live Mail /may/ disable your access to Outlook
Express.

2. Installing Windows Live Mail /may/ change your default Mail Client
from
Outlook Express to Windows Live Mail.

3. The Windows Live "all-in-one" installer /may/ install more than just
Windows Live Mail. If you decide to try Windows Live Mail, UNCHECK any
unwanted Windows Live applications (e.g., Windows Live Messenger; Windows
Live Toolbar; Windows Live Family Safety) before proceeding with the
installation!
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Windows Live Mail-specific newsgroup:
microsoft.public.windows.live.mail.desktop

Via the web-interface:
http://www.microsoft.com/communitie...dg=microsoft.public.windows.live.mail.desktop

Via your newsreader:
news://msnews.microsoft.com/microsoft.public.windows.live.mail.desktop

 

[Frank Saunders MS-MVP IE,OE/WM]

I see no reason that this isn't THE correct answer

Thanks, but it's certainly not the only answer. Only the end user can
decide which is best.