angry enough to spit nails (only let me activate once!)

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Rob Prowel

In late August I ordered the components to build a new high end
workstation, and with those parts ordered xp-pro OEM version.
All components and software were ordered thru newegg.com in
California.

It was bad enough that I found out after installing that xp requires
an activation code, but then to just today find out that I have to
reactivate when I make a simple hardware change is unnacceptable.

I let the system do the online reactivation and it told me that my
product key has exceeded the number of times I can activate. I only
did this once, and by voice telephone the first time, at which time
I was very annoyed with not actually getting a human on the MS end.

So, now I have three days to get a working activation code for a
product that MS systems say is no good. I have the certificate of
authenticity and original media. That should certainly be enough
PROOF that it isn't pirated.

I need to speak with a real person at MS who is in a position of
authority and I want an institutional activation key that can be
reused if MS is going to insist on reactivation when I make changes
to my system configuration. After all, I DID pay for this product
and don't expect to have to jump thru these kinds of hoops to make it
work as expected.

I've tried very hard to stay clear of windows vs. opensource debate,
but this kind of crap is certainly steering my opinion in favor of
less proprietary solutions. As a professional systems consultant I
have some weight in steering customers toward platforms so MS should
keep in mind that they don't want to alienate those of us who try
to keep an open mind.

I want a phone number of a real person in MS who is in a position of
authority to help me get this straightenned out quickly and permanently.

If MS isn't willing to play ball then I'm not above finding a pirated
institutional activation key to make what I've already paid for work.

Can anyone suggest a real MS contact who will help me get this fixed?

Rob Prowel
 
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Guest

Why did you purchase an OEM copy in the 1st place...Replacing a simple
component(s),should never send you to re register xp,usually it takes a
major component(s) replacements and thats only with a new installation of
xp.You can call microsoft, 800 9364900 But it sounds like user errors..
 
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Rob Prowel

Why did you purchase an OEM copy in the 1st place...Replacing a simple
component(s),should never send you to re register xp,usually it takes a
major component(s) replacements and thats only with a new installation of
xp.You can call microsoft, 800 9364900 But it sounds like user errors..

Simply moving unused drives from the secondary ide channel to the sata raid
channel and reenabling the raid controller triggered this fiasco.

But the point is moot now. I got my answer from M$. In essence, tuff
crap. We don't trust you so if you want to use our product you must call
us to reactivate when required.

M$ just created took a very large leap in creating another open source
zealot.
 
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Jim Macklin

If you read and follow the procedures with an OEM product,
you use the on-line activation, which will allow activation
every 120 days. If you need to do this more often, you call
MS and they give a new code after you explain. As long as
you are not building a new computer, you can repair or even
update the old one with XP OEM.

see http://www.aumha.org/win5/a/wpa.htm on the
http://www.aumha.org/win5/ to learn about what you need to
know before you "go off" on MS or New Egg.


--
The people think the Constitution protects their rights;
But government sees it as an obstacle to be overcome.


| In article
| > Why did you purchase an OEM copy in the 1st
place...Replacing a simple
| > component(s),should never send you to re register
xp,usually it takes a
| > major component(s) replacements and thats only with a
new installation of
| > xp.You can call microsoft, 800 9364900 But it sounds
like user errors..
|
| Simply moving unused drives from the secondary ide channel
to the sata raid
| channel and reenabling the raid controller triggered this
fiasco.
|
| But the point is moot now. I got my answer from M$. In
essence, tuff
| crap. We don't trust you so if you want to use our
product you must call
| us to reactivate when required.
|
| M$ just created took a very large leap in creating another
open source
| zealot.
|
 
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Rick \Nutcase\ Rogers

Problem #1 is that you saved a few bucks and bought an OEM version.
Personally, I wish they didn't exist. But they do, and we all get to deal
with them. Yes, you saved a few dollars off of retail, but this is what it
cost you:

- OEM versions are not supported in any way by Microsoft. Support is solely
provided by the OEM vendor.
- OEM versions cannot be migrated to other hardware once activated, your
choice of changes is very limited.

Basically, had you purchased the regular retail version, you could have
swapped hardware all you wanted, and you would have been entitled to support
from Microsoft. You would still need to activate (no one is accusing you of
piracy, the activation is to prevent "casual" copying) on occasion depending
on the degree of the hardware changes, but it would not have been prevented.

Microsoft Product Support can be reached at 1-800-936-5700.

--
Best of Luck,

Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP

Associate Expert - WindowsXP Expert Zone

Windows help - www.rickrogers.org
 
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Raymond J. Johnson Jr.

| In late August I ordered the components to build a new high end
| workstation, and with those parts ordered xp-pro OEM version.
| All components and software were ordered thru newegg.com in
| California.
|
| It was bad enough that I found out after installing that xp requires
| an activation code, but then to just today find out that I have to
| reactivate when I make a simple hardware change is unnacceptable.
|
| I let the system do the online reactivation and it told me that my
| product key has exceeded the number of times I can activate. I only
| did this once, and by voice telephone the first time, at which time
| I was very annoyed with not actually getting a human on the MS end.
|
| So, now I have three days to get a working activation code for a
| product that MS systems say is no good. I have the certificate of
| authenticity and original media. That should certainly be enough
| PROOF that it isn't pirated.
|
| I need to speak with a real person at MS who is in a position of
| authority and I want an institutional activation key that can be
| reused if MS is going to insist on reactivation when I make changes
| to my system configuration. After all, I DID pay for this product
| and don't expect to have to jump thru these kinds of hoops to make it
| work as expected.
|
| I've tried very hard to stay clear of windows vs. opensource debate,
| but this kind of crap is certainly steering my opinion in favor of
| less proprietary solutions. As a professional systems consultant I
| have some weight in steering customers toward platforms so MS should
| keep in mind that they don't want to alienate those of us who try
| to keep an open mind.
|
| I want a phone number of a real person in MS who is in a position of
| authority to help me get this straightenned out quickly and permanently.
|
| If MS isn't willing to play ball then I'm not above finding a pirated
| institutional activation key to make what I've already paid for work.
|
| Can anyone suggest a real MS contact who will help me get this fixed?
|
| Rob Prowel
|

Your're a "professional systems consultant" who was unaware of XP activation
requirements? Oblivious to one of the most highly publicized (and
crtiticized) anti-piracy schemes ever? You're just the type of customer I'm
sure MS will be glad to be rid of. And once *your* customers get wind of
your laughable ignorance...
 
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joh N

begin said:
In late August I ordered the components to build a new high end
workstation, and with those parts ordered xp-pro OEM version.
All components and software were ordered thru newegg.com in
California.

It was bad enough that I found out after installing that xp requires
an activation code, but then to just today find out that I have to
reactivate when I make a simple hardware change is unnacceptable.

Rob Prowel

Heh, heh...notice the big line of M$ apologists who sent their 'replies'? Even
the one who admits M$ OEM software is useless. Hell, M$ *created* the damn shit
to *force* vendors into obeisance, yet won't offer a fly turd sized bit of
support. What a ****ing joke.
By the way, if you do decide to spit nails, wait until Bill boy or his
apologists are in front of you, it'll be a lot more gratifying.
 

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