I am angry with Activation

[Michael Reyes]

I have been using XP since November of 2001. And it never
really bothered me to activate the OS. I reformat often
Due to the fact that I beta Test software. (Even For
Microsoft). So a reformat is common for me. Never the less
I ran out of Automatic Registrations and I need to call MS
now and speak with a rep. I didn't mind at first. The last
two that I had to speak with were a bit rude so when I
reformatted 39 days ago when Installing the Beta Refresh
of one of Microsoft popular software, I clicked NO to
activation and I told my self I will probably reformat
before the 45 days are up. So today I reboot my computer
and at login I am greeted with a You have 4 days to
activate Windows Do you wish to Activate Now message. I
was about to click yes but My wife was on the phone. So I
clicked NO. Windows boots up. I click Internet Explorer.
Nothing. I Click to Open Outlook. Nothing. I cntrl alt
delte into my task manager. 44 processes running 13% CPU
Usage. I click the Processes tab. I see Internet Explorer
and Outlook running. I end the process on both. I try
again. Neither would load but were listed in the process
list. I end Process again on both. I try Media Player. I
try outlook express this time. Still nothing although they
are both listed in the process list. I end the processes
on both. I open Netscape. That loads fine. I open
Macromedia Flash. That loaded fine. I try IE again. No go.

I decide to reboot again. Again clicking no to Activation.
Again the same problem. Everything Loads except Microsoft
Programs. I could not even browse my hard drive or my
computer. I can't click anything in my system tray. The
only icon that's clickable and will open in the system
tray is the Activation Keys. The tool tip says you have 4
days to activate.

I reboot again. This time I click yes to activation. The
activation screen loads activation failed because it said
the internet services were down or something of the sort.
I click remind me Later. Windows Loads and Works.

I had 4 days left to Activate and already my system was
rendered useless because I clicked no to activation.

I am angry at this. And I want to know what I can do to
avoid this in the Future. I am sick and tired of having to
call and speak with rude reps at Microsoft who seem to be
interrogating me like I am some criminal when I want to
activate my software. And I am upset that if I wait 39
days to activate my System is rendered useless when I was
given 45 days to activate.

 

[Jonathan Maltz [MS-MVP]]

That's got nothing to do with activation - that's something wrong with your
install.

It's 30 days or 60 - not 45

You can't "run out of automatic activation" - as long as not too much has
changed then it should work over the internet

--
--Jonathan Maltz [Microsoft MVP - Windows Server]
http://www.imbored.biz - A Windows Server 2003 visual, step-by-step
tutorial site
Only reply by newsgroup. If I see an email I didn't ask for, it will be
deleted without reading.

 

[Michael]

Well maybe I read wrong when I installed I thought it was
45 days how ever it still says I have 4 days left to
activate.

It is weird how ever that after I clicked yes to activate
it worked. My system works fine now. And To prove my point
that it is ACTIVATION I rebooted again and CLICKED No same
problem. I Clicked yes And I was able to Load Internet
Explorer.

-----Original Message-----
That's got nothing to do with activation - that's something wrong with your
install.

It's 30 days or 60 - not 45

You can't "run out of automatic activation" - as long as not too much has
changed then it should work over the internet

--
--Jonathan Maltz [Microsoft MVP - Windows Server]
http://www.imbored.biz - A Windows Server 2003 visual, step-by-step
tutorial site
Only reply by newsgroup. If I see an email I didn't ask for, it will be
deleted without reading.

I have been using XP since November of 2001. And it never
really bothered me to activate the OS. I reformat often
Due to the fact that I beta Test software. (Even For
Microsoft). So a reformat is common for me. Never the less
I ran out of Automatic Registrations and I need to call MS
now and speak with a rep. I didn't mind at first. The last
two that I had to speak with were a bit rude so when I
reformatted 39 days ago when Installing the Beta Refresh
of one of Microsoft popular software, I clicked NO to
activation and I told my self I will probably reformat
before the 45 days are up. So today I reboot my computer
and at login I am greeted with a You have 4 days to
activate Windows Do you wish to Activate Now message. I
was about to click yes but My wife was on the phone. So I
clicked NO. Windows boots up. I click Internet Explorer.
Nothing. I Click to Open Outlook. Nothing. I cntrl alt
delte into my task manager. 44 processes running 13% CPU
Usage. I click the Processes tab. I see Internet Explorer
and Outlook running. I end the process on both. I try
again. Neither would load but were listed in the process
list. I end Process again on both. I try Media Player. I
try outlook express this time. Still nothing although they
are both listed in the process list. I end the processes
on both. I open Netscape. That loads fine. I open
Macromedia Flash. That loaded fine. I try IE again. No go.

I decide to reboot again. Again clicking no to Activation.
Again the same problem. Everything Loads except Microsoft
Programs. I could not even browse my hard drive or my
computer. I can't click anything in my system tray. The
only icon that's clickable and will open in the system
tray is the Activation Keys. The tool tip says you have 4
days to activate.

I reboot again. This time I click yes to activation. The
activation screen loads activation failed because it said
the internet services were down or something of the sort.
I click remind me Later. Windows Loads and Works.

I had 4 days left to Activate and already my system was
rendered useless because I clicked no to activation.

I am angry at this. And I want to know what I can do to
avoid this in the Future. I am sick and tired of having to
call and speak with rude reps at Microsoft who seem to be
interrogating me like I am some criminal when I want to
activate my software. And I am upset that if I wait 39
days to activate my System is rendered useless when I was
given 45 days to activate.

.

 

[Michael Solomon \(MS-MVP Windows Shell/User\)]

Well maybe I read wrong when I installed I thought it was
45 days how ever it still says I have 4 days left to
activate.

It is weird how ever that after I clicked yes to activate
it worked. My system works fine now. And To prove my point
that it is ACTIVATION I rebooted again and CLICKED No same
problem. I Clicked yes And I was able to Load Internet
Explorer.

-----Original Message-----
That's got nothing to do with activation - that's something wrong
with your install.

It's 30 days or 60 - not 45

You can't "run out of automatic activation" - as long as not too
much has changed then it should work over the internet

--
--Jonathan Maltz [Microsoft MVP - Windows Server]
http://www.imbored.biz - A Windows Server 2003 visual, step-by-step
tutorial site
Only reply by newsgroup. If I see an email I didn't ask for, it
will be deleted without reading.

I have been using XP since November of 2001. And it never
really bothered me to activate the OS. I reformat often
Due to the fact that I beta Test software. (Even For
Microsoft). So a reformat is common for me. Never the less
I ran out of Automatic Registrations and I need to call MS
now and speak with a rep. I didn't mind at first. The last
two that I had to speak with were a bit rude so when I
reformatted 39 days ago when Installing the Beta Refresh
of one of Microsoft popular software, I clicked NO to
activation and I told my self I will probably reformat
before the 45 days are up. So today I reboot my computer
and at login I am greeted with a You have 4 days to
activate Windows Do you wish to Activate Now message. I
was about to click yes but My wife was on the phone. So I
clicked NO. Windows boots up. I click Internet Explorer.
Nothing. I Click to Open Outlook. Nothing. I cntrl alt
delte into my task manager. 44 processes running 13% CPU
Usage. I click the Processes tab. I see Internet Explorer
and Outlook running. I end the process on both. I try
again. Neither would load but were listed in the process
list. I end Process again on both. I try Media Player. I
try outlook express this time. Still nothing although they
are both listed in the process list. I end the processes
on both. I open Netscape. That loads fine. I open
Macromedia Flash. That loaded fine. I try IE again. No go.

I decide to reboot again. Again clicking no to Activation.
Again the same problem. Everything Loads except Microsoft
Programs. I could not even browse my hard drive or my
computer. I can't click anything in my system tray. The
only icon that's clickable and will open in the system
tray is the Activation Keys. The tool tip says you have 4
days to activate.

I reboot again. This time I click yes to activation. The
activation screen loads activation failed because it said
the internet services were down or something of the sort.
I click remind me Later. Windows Loads and Works.

I had 4 days left to Activate and already my system was
rendered useless because I clicked no to activation.

I am angry at this. And I want to know what I can do to
avoid this in the Future. I am sick and tired of having to
call and speak with rude reps at Microsoft who seem to be
interrogating me like I am some criminal when I want to
activate my software. And I am upset that if I wait 39
days to activate my System is rendered useless when I was
given 45 days to activate.

.

The problem with your conclusion is you have beta code installed on your
system. Even though it may not be the operating system itself, many
applications integrate closely with the OS in order to take advantage of
various functions built into the system.

Given what you've stated, there's no way to know for sure the problem is
activation and not some beta code that may be misbehaving or that has
corrupted the activation function in some manner.

 

[Harry Ohrn]

Michael did you say that when you clicked "Yes" to activate then all your
programs worked fine but you then rebooted and clicked "No" to activation
and the problem emerged again? If you activated then where did you find the
option to answer No. Generally once you activate you aren't given any
prompts again until you do a reinstall and if you evoke the Activation
Wizard it will simply state that the System is already activated. Something
is wrong.

--

Harry Ohrn MS-MVP [Shell\User]
www.webtree.ca/windowsxp

Well maybe I read wrong when I installed I thought it was
45 days how ever it still says I have 4 days left to
activate.

It is weird how ever that after I clicked yes to activate
it worked. My system works fine now. And To prove my point
that it is ACTIVATION I rebooted again and CLICKED No same
problem. I Clicked yes And I was able to Load Internet
Explorer.

-----Original Message-----
That's got nothing to do with activation - that's something wrong with your
install.

It's 30 days or 60 - not 45

You can't "run out of automatic activation" - as long as not too much has
changed then it should work over the internet

--
--Jonathan Maltz [Microsoft MVP - Windows Server]
http://www.imbored.biz - A Windows Server 2003 visual, step-by-step
tutorial site
Only reply by newsgroup. If I see an email I didn't ask for, it will be
deleted without reading.

I have been using XP since November of 2001. And it never
really bothered me to activate the OS. I reformat often
Due to the fact that I beta Test software. (Even For
Microsoft). So a reformat is common for me. Never the less
I ran out of Automatic Registrations and I need to call MS
now and speak with a rep. I didn't mind at first. The last
two that I had to speak with were a bit rude so when I
reformatted 39 days ago when Installing the Beta Refresh
of one of Microsoft popular software, I clicked NO to
activation and I told my self I will probably reformat
before the 45 days are up. So today I reboot my computer
and at login I am greeted with a You have 4 days to
activate Windows Do you wish to Activate Now message. I
was about to click yes but My wife was on the phone. So I
clicked NO. Windows boots up. I click Internet Explorer.
Nothing. I Click to Open Outlook. Nothing. I cntrl alt
delte into my task manager. 44 processes running 13% CPU
Usage. I click the Processes tab. I see Internet Explorer
and Outlook running. I end the process on both. I try
again. Neither would load but were listed in the process
list. I end Process again on both. I try Media Player. I
try outlook express this time. Still nothing although they
are both listed in the process list. I end the processes
on both. I open Netscape. That loads fine. I open
Macromedia Flash. That loaded fine. I try IE again. No go.

I decide to reboot again. Again clicking no to Activation.
Again the same problem. Everything Loads except Microsoft
Programs. I could not even browse my hard drive or my
computer. I can't click anything in my system tray. The
only icon that's clickable and will open in the system
tray is the Activation Keys. The tool tip says you have 4
days to activate.

I reboot again. This time I click yes to activation. The
activation screen loads activation failed because it said
the internet services were down or something of the sort.
I click remind me Later. Windows Loads and Works.

I had 4 days left to Activate and already my system was
rendered useless because I clicked no to activation.

I am angry at this. And I want to know what I can do to
avoid this in the Future. I am sick and tired of having to
call and speak with rude reps at Microsoft who seem to be
interrogating me like I am some criminal when I want to
activate my software. And I am upset that if I wait 39
days to activate my System is rendered useless when I was
given 45 days to activate.

.

 

[Michael Solomon \(MS-MVP Windows Shell/User\)]

Michael did you say that when you clicked "Yes" to activate then all
your programs worked fine but you then rebooted and clicked "No" to
activation and the problem emerged again? If you activated then where
did you find the option to answer No. Generally once you activate you
aren't given any prompts again until you do a reinstall and if you
evoke the Activation Wizard it will simply state that the System is
already activated. Something is wrong.

Well maybe I read wrong when I installed I thought it was
45 days how ever it still says I have 4 days left to
activate.

It is weird how ever that after I clicked yes to activate
it worked. My system works fine now. And To prove my point
that it is ACTIVATION I rebooted again and CLICKED No same
problem. I Clicked yes And I was able to Load Internet
Explorer.

-----Original Message-----
That's got nothing to do with activation - that's something wrong with your
install.

It's 30 days or 60 - not 45

You can't "run out of automatic activation" - as long as not too much has
changed then it should work over the internet

--
--Jonathan Maltz [Microsoft MVP - Windows Server]
http://www.imbored.biz - A Windows Server 2003 visual, step-by-step
tutorial site
Only reply by newsgroup. If I see an email I didn't ask for, it will be
deleted without reading.


I have been using XP since November of 2001. And it never
really bothered me to activate the OS. I reformat often
Due to the fact that I beta Test software. (Even For
Microsoft). So a reformat is common for me. Never the less
I ran out of Automatic Registrations and I need to call MS
now and speak with a rep. I didn't mind at first. The last
two that I had to speak with were a bit rude so when I
reformatted 39 days ago when Installing the Beta Refresh
of one of Microsoft popular software, I clicked NO to
activation and I told my self I will probably reformat
before the 45 days are up. So today I reboot my computer
and at login I am greeted with a You have 4 days to
activate Windows Do you wish to Activate Now message. I
was about to click yes but My wife was on the phone. So I
clicked NO. Windows boots up. I click Internet Explorer.
Nothing. I Click to Open Outlook. Nothing. I cntrl alt
delte into my task manager. 44 processes running 13% CPU
Usage. I click the Processes tab. I see Internet Explorer
and Outlook running. I end the process on both. I try
again. Neither would load but were listed in the process
list. I end Process again on both. I try Media Player. I
try outlook express this time. Still nothing although they
are both listed in the process list. I end the processes
on both. I open Netscape. That loads fine. I open
Macromedia Flash. That loaded fine. I try IE again. No go.

I decide to reboot again. Again clicking no to Activation.
Again the same problem. Everything Loads except Microsoft
Programs. I could not even browse my hard drive or my
computer. I can't click anything in my system tray. The
only icon that's clickable and will open in the system
tray is the Activation Keys. The tool tip says you have 4
days to activate.

I reboot again. This time I click yes to activation. The
activation screen loads activation failed because it said
the internet services were down or something of the sort.
I click remind me Later. Windows Loads and Works.

I had 4 days left to Activate and already my system was
rendered useless because I clicked no to activation.

I am angry at this. And I want to know what I can do to
avoid this in the Future. I am sick and tired of having to
call and speak with rude reps at Microsoft who seem to be
interrogating me like I am some criminal when I want to
activate my software. And I am upset that if I wait 39
days to activate my System is rendered useless when I was
given 45 days to activate.





.

Harry, even though he clicked yes to activate, the phone line was apparently
unavailable so he was unable to activate. He apparently went through this
more than once.

 

[Harry Ohrn]

Michael did you say that when you clicked "Yes" to activate then all
your programs worked fine but you then rebooted and clicked "No" to
activation and the problem emerged again? If you activated then where
did you find the option to answer No. Generally once you activate you
aren't given any prompts again until you do a reinstall and if you
evoke the Activation Wizard it will simply state that the System is
already activated. Something is wrong.

Well maybe I read wrong when I installed I thought it was
45 days how ever it still says I have 4 days left to
activate.

It is weird how ever that after I clicked yes to activate
it worked. My system works fine now. And To prove my point
that it is ACTIVATION I rebooted again and CLICKED No same
problem. I Clicked yes And I was able to Load Internet
Explorer.
-----Original Message-----
That's got nothing to do with activation - that's
something wrong with your
install.

It's 30 days or 60 - not 45

You can't "run out of automatic activation" - as long as
not too much has
changed then it should work over the internet

--
--Jonathan Maltz [Microsoft MVP - Windows Server]
http://www.imbored.biz - A Windows Server 2003 visual,
step-by-step
tutorial site
Only reply by newsgroup. If I see an email I didn't ask
for, it will be
deleted without reading.


I have been using XP since November of 2001. And it
never
really bothered me to activate the OS. I reformat often
Due to the fact that I beta Test software. (Even For
Microsoft). So a reformat is common for me. Never the
less
I ran out of Automatic Registrations and I need to call
MS
now and speak with a rep. I didn't mind at first. The
last
two that I had to speak with were a bit rude so when I
reformatted 39 days ago when Installing the Beta Refresh
of one of Microsoft popular software, I clicked NO to
activation and I told my self I will probably reformat
before the 45 days are up. So today I reboot my computer
and at login I am greeted with a You have 4 days to
activate Windows Do you wish to Activate Now message. I
was about to click yes but My wife was on the phone. So
I
clicked NO. Windows boots up. I click Internet Explorer.
Nothing. I Click to Open Outlook. Nothing. I cntrl alt
delte into my task manager. 44 processes running 13% CPU
Usage. I click the Processes tab. I see Internet
Explorer
and Outlook running. I end the process on both. I try
again. Neither would load but were listed in the process
list. I end Process again on both. I try Media Player. I
try outlook express this time. Still nothing although
they
are both listed in the process list. I end the processes
on both. I open Netscape. That loads fine. I open
Macromedia Flash. That loaded fine. I try IE again. No
go.

I decide to reboot again. Again clicking no to
Activation.
Again the same problem. Everything Loads except
Microsoft
Programs. I could not even browse my hard drive or my
computer. I can't click anything in my system tray. The
only icon that's clickable and will open in the system
tray is the Activation Keys. The tool tip says you have
4
days to activate.

I reboot again. This time I click yes to activation. The
activation screen loads activation failed because it
said
the internet services were down or something of the
sort.
I click remind me Later. Windows Loads and Works.

I had 4 days left to Activate and already my system was
rendered useless because I clicked no to activation.

I am angry at this. And I want to know what I can do to
avoid this in the Future. I am sick and tired of having
to
call and speak with rude reps at Microsoft who seem to
be
interrogating me like I am some criminal when I want to
activate my software. And I am upset that if I wait 39
days to activate my System is rendered useless when I
was
given 45 days to activate.





.

Harry, even though he clicked yes to activate, the phone line was apparently
unavailable so he was unable to activate. He apparently went through this
more than once.
--
Michael Solomon MS-MVP
Windows Shell/User
Backup is a PC User's Best Friend
DTS-L.Org: http://www.dts-l.org/

Ok. That makes sense. Generally the main reason I've found for not being
able to reach the activation center is due to significant h/w changes.

 

[Mike Truitt [Microsoft]]

Michael,

It looks like the MVP's are resolving your activation problem. I would
like to hear more about the rude Microsoft representatives. If you
encounter behavior you feel is either not professional or not respectful, I
would be very interested in hearing the feedback, time you called and with
whom you spoke.

Best regards,

Mike Truitt
Microsoft Corporation

 

[Michael Solomon \(MS-MVP Windows Shell/User\)]

No problem, Harry and your experience has generally been mine as well.

--
Michael Solomon MS-MVP
Windows Shell/User
Backup is a PC User's Best Friend
DTS-L.Org: http://www.dts-l.org/

Michael did you say that when you clicked "Yes" to activate then all
your programs worked fine but you then rebooted and clicked "No" to
activation and the problem emerged again? If you activated then where
did you find the option to answer No. Generally once you activate you
aren't given any prompts again until you do a reinstall and if you
evoke the Activation Wizard it will simply state that the System is
already activated. Something is wrong.


Well maybe I read wrong when I installed I thought it was
45 days how ever it still says I have 4 days left to
activate.

It is weird how ever that after I clicked yes to activate
it worked. My system works fine now. And To prove my point
that it is ACTIVATION I rebooted again and CLICKED No same
problem. I Clicked yes And I was able to Load Internet
Explorer.
-----Original Message-----
That's got nothing to do with activation - that's
something wrong with your
install.

It's 30 days or 60 - not 45

You can't "run out of automatic activation" - as long as
not too much has
changed then it should work over the internet

--
--Jonathan Maltz [Microsoft MVP - Windows Server]
http://www.imbored.biz - A Windows Server 2003 visual,
step-by-step
tutorial site
Only reply by newsgroup. If I see an email I didn't ask
for, it will be
deleted without reading.


I have been using XP since November of 2001. And it
never
really bothered me to activate the OS. I reformat often
Due to the fact that I beta Test software. (Even For
Microsoft). So a reformat is common for me. Never the
less
I ran out of Automatic Registrations and I need to call
MS
now and speak with a rep. I didn't mind at first. The
last
two that I had to speak with were a bit rude so when I
reformatted 39 days ago when Installing the Beta Refresh
of one of Microsoft popular software, I clicked NO to
activation and I told my self I will probably reformat
before the 45 days are up. So today I reboot my computer
and at login I am greeted with a You have 4 days to
activate Windows Do you wish to Activate Now message. I
was about to click yes but My wife was on the phone. So
I
clicked NO. Windows boots up. I click Internet Explorer.
Nothing. I Click to Open Outlook. Nothing. I cntrl alt
delte into my task manager. 44 processes running 13% CPU
Usage. I click the Processes tab. I see Internet
Explorer
and Outlook running. I end the process on both. I try
again. Neither would load but were listed in the process
list. I end Process again on both. I try Media Player. I
try outlook express this time. Still nothing although
they
are both listed in the process list. I end the processes
on both. I open Netscape. That loads fine. I open
Macromedia Flash. That loaded fine. I try IE again. No
go.

I decide to reboot again. Again clicking no to
Activation.
Again the same problem. Everything Loads except
Microsoft
Programs. I could not even browse my hard drive or my
computer. I can't click anything in my system tray. The
only icon that's clickable and will open in the system
tray is the Activation Keys. The tool tip says you have
4
days to activate.

I reboot again. This time I click yes to activation. The
activation screen loads activation failed because it
said
the internet services were down or something of the
sort.
I click remind me Later. Windows Loads and Works.

I had 4 days left to Activate and already my system was
rendered useless because I clicked no to activation.

I am angry at this. And I want to know what I can do to
avoid this in the Future. I am sick and tired of having
to
call and speak with rude reps at Microsoft who seem to
be
interrogating me like I am some criminal when I want to
activate my software. And I am upset that if I wait 39
days to activate my System is rendered useless when I
was
given 45 days to activate.





.

Harry, even though he clicked yes to activate, the phone line was apparently
unavailable so he was unable to activate. He apparently went through this
more than once.
--
Michael Solomon MS-MVP
Windows Shell/User
Backup is a PC User's Best Friend
DTS-L.Org: http://www.dts-l.org/

Ok. That makes sense. Generally the main reason I've found for not being
able to reach the activation center is due to significant h/w changes.