AMD's 939 production halt sends prices tumbling

[Guest]

I saw this: -

http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=32603

and now I'm really miffed. I bought an Asrock 939Dual-Sata2, an Ath64 3000
and top spec RAM with the thought that in a year or two, I would be able to
pick up a better 939 as the prices would have dropped. Now it turns out that
AMD have stopped production of skt939 CPUs. What a bummer. I know that with
this mobo I have the AM2 upgrade path, but that wasn't quite what I had in
mind.

Bugger.

 

[General Schvantzkoph]

I saw this: -

http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=32603

and now I'm really miffed. I bought an Asrock 939Dual-Sata2, an Ath64 3000
and top spec RAM with the thought that in a year or two, I would be able to
pick up a better 939 as the prices would have dropped. Now it turns out that
AMD have stopped production of skt939 CPUs. What a bummer. I know that with
this mobo I have the AM2 upgrade path, but that wasn't quite what I had in
mind.

Bugger.

The following processors are supposed to be available through 2007,

http://csip.amd.com/en/Platform/

AMD has a stable platform program where they guarantee the availability of
components for 15 months. I don't know if this means that the components
will be available in the retail channel or just to OEMs.

 

[Guest]

The following processors are supposed to be available through 2007,

http://csip.amd.com/en/Platform/

AMD has a stable platform program where they guarantee the availability of
components for 15 months. I don't know if this means that the components
will be available in the retail channel or just to OEMs.

From what I've read, it looks like many of the 939 lines will be phased out
from Dec 06. I have now calmed down a bit and realised that I still have a
few options. I have also found a site that overclocked a 3000 venice core
from 1.8GHz to somewhere around 2.7GHz - always an option if I want a bit
more oomph and am struggling to source a 939 CPU!

 

[General Schvantzkoph]

From what I've read, it looks like many of the 939 lines will be phased out
from Dec 06. I have now calmed down a bit and realised that I still have a
few options. I have also found a site that overclocked a 3000 venice core
from 1.8GHz to somewhere around 2.7GHz - always an option if I want a bit
more oomph and am struggling to source a 939 CPU!

The stable platform list only includes Athlon 64s. I suspect that the 939
Opteron 1xx will be around longer. Server manufacturers expect much longer
life cycles then 15 months, AMD would have to be crazy to discontinue an
Opteron that quickly. On the other hand do they consider an Opteron
1xx to be a real server chip or do they have it just to fill out their
price list?

 

[Bill]

I saw this: -

http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=32603

and now I'm really miffed. I bought an Asrock 939Dual-Sata2, an Ath64 3000
and top spec RAM with the thought that in a year or two, I would be able to
pick up a better 939 as the prices would have dropped.

Production may have stopped, but the supply chains will have varying
amounts for weeks or months to come depending on demand.

The problem is prices...right now they will bottom out, but once supply
starts to dwindle, prices will climb. If you want a socket 939 chip, I'd
consider buying in the next week or two in order to avoid gouging.

 

[Carlo Razzeto]

Ok... Where are prices tumbling? I have no frame of reference for the UK,
but across the pond here in the US S939 prices are rock solid. Have barely
even been nudged down at all.

Carlo

 

[Bill]

Ok... Where are prices tumbling? I have no frame of reference for the UK,
but across the pond here in the US S939 prices are rock solid. Have barely
even been nudged down at all.

It doesn't happen at the retailer instantly for most consumer goods. The
price changes trickle down as items hit the shelves. The same for price
increases.

Except for gas prices - which only seem to go up instantly...

 

[__]

It doesn't happen at the retailer instantly for most consumer goods. The
price changes trickle down as items hit the shelves. The same for price
increases.

Except for gas prices - which only seem to go up instantly...

newegg has the 3500 for $109 2.2Ghz

You can buy two of these for less than the slower dual cores.

yeah, progress

Fry's will sell you the 3500 + a motherboard for $129

 

[Carlo Razzeto]

newegg has the 3500 for $109 2.2Ghz

You can buy two of these for less than the slower dual cores.

yeah, progress

Fry's will sell you the 3500 + a motherboard for $129

Eh... Only really interested in dual core, what the heck are you going to do
with 2 S939 processors anyway?

Carlo

 

[__]

Eh... Only really interested in dual core, what the heck are you going to do
with 2 S939 processors anyway?

Carlo

Just thinking about what a great deal dual cores are.

You could buy three faster single core cpu's for about the same
price.

 

[Don Taylor]

Just thinking about what a great deal dual cores are.

You could buy three faster single core cpu's for about the same
price.

Are there fairly cheap dual or quad socket 939 boards so I could
plug two or three of these single core faster cpus into a board
for the same price? That's what I'm looking for at the moment.

 

[__]

Are there fairly cheap dual or quad socket 939 boards so I could
plug two or three of these single core faster cpus into a board
for the same price? That's what I'm looking for at the moment.

You'd need the opteron for that I believe.

Apparently screwing the commercial customers on server motherboards
is more profitable than selling enthusiasts lots of cpu's.

Ditto raid5 stuff for whatever reason.

They seem terrified that anyone should have a cheap server.

 

[Hachiroku]

I saw this: -

http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=32603

and now I'm really miffed. I bought an Asrock 939Dual-Sata2, an Ath64 3000
and top spec RAM with the thought that in a year or two, I would be able
to pick up a better 939 as the prices would have dropped. Now it turns out
that AMD have stopped production of skt939 CPUs. What a bummer. I know
that with this mobo I have the AM2 upgrade path, but that wasn't quite
what I had in mind.

Bugger.

I have the same board with an AMD 4000+ Athlon 64, and I can't get anything
to boot!
No Windows, No Linux (I had anticipated problems with this!)

But, Knoppix, the Swiss Army knife of LIVE CDs won't boot, Gnoppix (a Debian
deriviative) makes it 90% of the way and hangs! Usually, one of these will
boot the deadest system!

I have the ASRock 939 Dual SATA MOBO, a Diamond AGP 8X Video card based on
the ATi 9550 GPU,
2 Kingston HyperX PC3500 256M DIMMS clocked DOWN to 400MHz (ran fine in my
SOYO Dragon!)
and a 400 or 450 Watt PSU that ran everything just fine with my SOYO and 6
disk/CD drives.
Even reinstalling Windows XP hangs somewhere. Had total boot problems at
first but then got it stable enough
to get past the POST and access the drives.

I have downloaded ALL the BIOS updates from ASRock; the 1.30 version does
say, "Added AMD 4000+ support"
while their website says AMD Athlon 64 4000+ support from day 1!

Any Ideas?

 

[Htnakirs]

Any Ideas?

Try using other RAM modules. The symptoms do point to RAM issues.

 

[mr deo]

Try using other RAM modules. The symptoms do point to RAM issues.

actually, sounds like cpu getting too hot, or the mobo not able to cope with
the fsb.