Admin Tools does not start


A

Andy

When I click on Admin Tools in Control Panel, nothing shows up ?

What is wrong ?

Thanks,
Andy

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JJ

When I click on Admin Tools in Control Panel, nothing shows up ?

What is wrong ?
There's no Admin Tools in the Control Panel.
There's only Administrator Tools in the Programs menu.
 
A

Andy

There's no Admin Tools in the Control Panel.
There's only Administrator Tools in the Programs menu.
Admin is short for Administrative.

Andy
 
R

R.Wieser

Andy,
When I click on Admin Tools in Control Panel, nothing shows up ?

What is wrong ?
First guess: the user you are logged in as has no admin privileges. How
that happened is a whole other story (which I'm not going to guess to).

Suggestion: log in as admin and try again.

Second suggestion: use google to find how to adjust user privileges.

Third suggestion: do a malware/virus scan, as some strains have been known
to lock-out the user from doing certain admin tasks (to make it harder to
remove such malware/viri).

Regards,
Rudy Wieser

P.s.
There is a saying that goes as following: "When the people around you (start
to) behave like a**holes than its quite likely you are (the) one."

In other words: maybe you should take a look in the mirror and ask yourself
what you are doing to provoke such negative responses, and adjust your own
behaviour accordingly (instead of thinking the whole world should change to
accomodate you).

And no, no smilies to the above. There is no way to suggarcoat the above,
and using them would only cause confusion to my intention.


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B

Ben Myers

Andy said:
When I click on Admin Tools in Control Panel, nothing shows up ?
What is wrong ?
Thanks,
Andy
happynews.com
Actually, a double-click is required. If you are already doing that, try typing
"control admintools" into the "Run" box.

Ben
 
R

R.Wieser

Andy,
None of your suggestions apply in my case.

I am an admin etc.
What makes you think its privileges can't be changed ?

You do not need to google (why?)

You "just know" you haven't got any malware or viri (how ?)

Regards,
Rudy Wieser


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M

Mayayana

| > None of your suggestions apply in my case.
| >
| > I am an admin etc.
|
| What makes you think its privileges can't be changed ?

Many people (including myself) are running
XP on FAT32 -- no file restrictions. Andy may
be doing that, though he didn't explain.
 
R

R.Wieser

Mayayana,
... though he didn't explain
:) Thats exactly my point.

With the absense of any information (none given when the question was asked,
none given to why the suggestions do not apply) all we can do is keep making
more *guesses* in the hope he can use something from it, which I find a
waste of my time.

Also, his "Googling does not apply" miffles me a bit as its *always* is a
good idea to do.
Many people (including myself) are running
XP on FAT32 -- no file restrictions.
Don't be too sure about that. Although XP is quite leaky in regard to user
seperation, it certainly does its best to make it hard for you to access
certain files, folders and programs (see "group policies").

Regards,
Rudy Wieser


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Mayayana

| With the absense of any information (none given when the question was
asked,
| none given to why the suggestions do not apply) all we can do is keep
making
| more *guesses* in the hope he can use something from it, which I find a
| waste of my time.
|
Yes. I'm surprised that so many people try to
help him when he makes no effort to help himself.

| > Many people (including myself) are running
| > XP on FAT32 -- no file restrictions.
|
| Don't be too sure about that. Although XP is quite leaky in regard to
user
| seperation, it certainly does its best to make it hard for you to access
| certain files, folders and programs (see "group policies").
|

Yes, there is System File Protection. I uninstalled
that ages ago. There's nothing else I can think of.
My system is as accessible as Win98 was. But what
I meant was that there is no restrictions/permissions
functionality for files and folders in FAT32. There's
nothing like needing to be an admin to access this
or that. That's only possible with NTFS... which is
why I use FAT32. :)
 
R

R.Wieser

Mayayana,
Yes. I'm surprised that so many people try to
help him when he makes no effort to help himself.
I'm not quite sure that he actually doesn't make any effort, which is why I
keep trying.

You see, its possible Andy exhibits a quite common teenage behaviour, a
stage where they expect other people to do his work for themselves and have
yet to learn that that is not acceptable (like making a meal for yourself
but (keep) leaving it upto your mother to clean up the mess. That only
works upto a certain age ...)
Yes, there is System File Protection. I uninstalled
that ages ago.
Not only that. There are also measures in place to make sure that a user
with lesser privileges cannot, for example, format a(ny) drive. It can be
told to block unknown USB sticks/devices (the system refuses to auto-install
the needed drivers without an admin password). I have access to a computer
which disallows me to permanently change the drive-letter assignment for my
USB stick. And although I was a high-level user I was not even allowed to
change CMDs auto-complete key (in the registry) ... :-\

Blocking access to the Admin panel is one of the measures to keep "common
users" from meddeling with the sytem.
My system is as accessible as Win98 was.
Lol. Try writing, under XP, something to any kind of hardware (like the LPT
/ RS232 port, or maybe the CMOS) and see how far you get. :)

But yes, when you're logged in as an admin and all is set up right there is
little you're not allowed to do (or can't be changed so that you're allowed
to do it).

Regards,
Rudy Wieser


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R

R.Wieser

JJ,

I just checked to make absolutily sure, but there definitily is, under XP,
an applet named "Administrative tools" present in the "Control pannel"
folder.

Regards,
Rudy Wieser


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B

Ben Myers

Andy said:
When I click on Admin Tools in Control Panel, nothing shows up ?
What is wrong ?
Thanks,
Andy
happynews.com
An alternative way of starting it is by clicking "Start", "Run", typing
"control admintools" into the "Open" box and click "OK".

Ben
 
N

Nil

You see, its possible Andy exhibits a quite common teenage
behaviour, a stage where they expect other people to do his work
for themselves and have yet to learn that that is not acceptable
(like making a meal for yourself but (keep) leaving it upto your
mother to clean up the mess. That only works upto a certain age
...)
It's not just teenagers, adults do it, too. Andy's doing a variation of
what's called the "Why Don't You / Yes But" game. That's a method of
discourse where someone asks for advice, then proceeds to come up with
reasons why that advice won't work, which solicits more suggestions
which are summarily rejected. Eventually the answerer gives up and the
asker feels validated. It's an attention-getting scheme. In this case,
Andy intentionally asks vague, incomplete, unanswerable questions. When
asked for details he gives more misleading, incomplete answers, or
avoids the question all together. His intention is to keep the
"conversation" going as long as possible, not to get a real answer.
 
Z

Zak W

It's not just teenagers, adults do it, too. Andy's doing a variation of
what's called the "Why Don't You / Yes But" game. That's a method of
discourse where someone asks for advice, then proceeds to come up with
reasons why that advice won't work, which solicits more suggestions
which are summarily rejected. Eventually the answerer gives up and the
asker feels validated. It's an attention-getting scheme. In this case,
Andy intentionally asks vague, incomplete, unanswerable questions. When
asked for details he gives more misleading, incomplete answers, or
avoids the question all together. His intention is to keep the
"conversation" going as long as possible, not to get a real answer.
+1
 
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R.Wieser

Andy,
I found the command line ways to open any administrative tool.
Good.

But you still cannot start the program by double-clicking it ? Assuming
you're starting a program with the ".MSC" extension its possible something
went wrong with the extension-to-program translation stored in the registry.

Suggestion: find the *.msc program you want to run in the system32 folder,
right-click and select "open with". It *should*, on the second line, say
"Microsoft Management Console". If not, select it from the list below it.
If not found there select "browse" and find the "mmc.exe" program, also in
the system32 folder.

Regards,
Rudy Wieser

P.s.
I guess that "Googling does not apply" did apply after all ? :p


-- Origional message:
Andy said:
I found the command line ways to open any administrative tool.
http://www.windowsnetworking.com/kbase/WindowsTips/Windows2003/AdminTips/Adm
in/LaunchAdminToolsfromtheCommandLine.html
 

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