Adding a 2nd Physical Hard Drive

[BRH]

Today I attempted to add a second physical hard drive to my XP Pro
system, and was unsuccessful. XP would not recognize it.

First, let me give some background info --- I had originally installed
WinXP onto a fresh new drive a few weeks ago, and made sure that it
worked fine. My intention is to install my "old" drive as a second
physical drive on to this new XP system. This "old" drive is in good
working order, but was the boot drive when I was using Win98. (Win98
and all programs and data are still on this drive). I was careful to
set the jumpers properly to Master and Slave, and connected the drive
cable. Upon boot-up, only the "new" drive was recognized in XP. The
"old" Win98 drive was not shown in My Computer (although the taskbar had
indicated that a new drive had been detected. I got the message that
new hardware had been found).

The interesting thing is that, although XP doesn't see the Win98 drive,
Partition Magic 8 (launched from within Windows) does. However, PM8
lists it as Active and Primary (same as my boot partition on my master
drive) and refuses to assign it a drive letter. The only option it
gives me is to format it. I don't want to do that, since I have many
gigs of downloads (patches, demos, etc) that I want to be able to use on
temy XP system. Once the Win98 drive gets recognized, I had intended to
simply erase the Windows directory (and subdirectories) on it.

Here's my present set-up: First Physical drive has 2 partitions - C:
has Windows and other system files; D: has all program and data files.
Letter E: is skipped, since that's what I want to assign the Win98 hard
drive to. The rest of the leteters go to my DVD drive, burner, and Zip
Disk.

Can anyone help me out with where I went wrong on installing this second
drive? BTW -- Both drives are identical -- WD Caviar 80 Gig w/ 8meg
cache.

Thanks!
Bert

 

[GSV Three Minds in a Can]

Today I attempted to add a second physical hard drive to my XP Pro
system, and was unsuccessful. XP would not recognize it.

First, let me give some background info --- I had originally installed
WinXP onto a fresh new drive a few weeks ago, and made sure that it
worked fine. My intention is to install my "old" drive as a second
physical drive on to this new XP system. This "old" drive is in good
working order, but was the boot drive when I was using Win98. (Win98
and all programs and data are still on this drive). I was careful to
set the jumpers properly to Master and Slave, and connected the drive
cable. Upon boot-up, only the "new" drive was recognized in XP. The
"old" Win98 drive was not shown in My Computer (although the taskbar had
indicated that a new drive had been detected. I got the message that
new hardware had been found).

The interesting thing is that, although XP doesn't see the Win98 drive,
Partition Magic 8 (launched from within Windows) does. However, PM8
lists it as Active and Primary (same as my boot partition on my master
drive) and refuses to assign it a drive letter. The only option it
gives me is to format it. I don't want to do that, since I have many
gigs of downloads (patches, demos, etc) that I want to be able to use on
temy XP system. Once the Win98 drive gets recognized, I had intended to
simply erase the Windows directory (and subdirectories) on it.

Here's my present set-up: First Physical drive has 2 partitions - C:
has Windows and other system files; D: has all program and data files.
Letter E: is skipped, since that's what I want to assign the Win98 hard
drive to. The rest of the leteters go to my DVD drive, burner, and Zip
Disk.

Can anyone help me out with where I went wrong on installing this second
drive? BTW -- Both drives are identical -- WD Caviar 80 Gig w/ 8meg
cache.

1) What does device manager have to say about it - does it show there?

2) If it does, what does start, run, diskmgmt.msc have to say about it -
does it see it, and does it believe it is partitioned and ready to have
a drive letter assigned?

3) You normally have to reboot to use a new EIDE hard drive that WinXP
detects and installs - ditto (sometimes) if changing a drive letter on a
drive that was in use at the time.

 

[Mikhail Zhilin]

Bert,

Go to Control Panel -- Administrative Tools -- Computer Management,
expand Storage branch in the left pane, and select Disk Management under
it.

At the bottom of the right pane find your "absent" drive, and see if
there is "Healthy" note at all of its logical parts (or the only part --
if there is only one logical drive at this HDD).

If all is Ok here -- right click the first part with no letter, and
select "Change Drive Letter and Path..." menu item.

In the opened window press "Add..." button, select "Assign the following
drive letter:", and select the drive letter on your choice. Press Ok
button.

Repeat that with all the logical parts which have no letters -- if any.

Does that work?
--
Mikhail Zhilin (MS MVP - DTS)
http://www.aha.ru/~mwz
Sorry, no technical support by e-mail.
Please reply to the newsgroups only.
======

 

[BRH]

Mikhail.

Everything shows as "Healthy", but when I right-click on the part with no
letter (on the left side of the main panel), the only choices that I'm
presented with are "Delete Partition" and "Help". Note that this drive is
listed as "Healthy (Active)". My original drive is listed as "Healthy
(System)" on Partition C:, while Partition D: (on the same original physical
disk) is listed as "Healthy".

I have Partition Magic 8 which recognizes the drive, but it only gives me
these choices...."Delete", "Format", "Properties" and "Change Drive Letter"
(but there are no drive letters to choose from and it won't let me type one
in).

Thanks for the help....

Bert

 

[Mikhail Zhilin]

Bert,

Then it seems as this drive was a bootable one [I've re-read the thread
now -- and yes, it was], and has the drive overlay "Ontrack Disk
Manager" (or its clone like MaxBlast or EzDrive) installed.

I would go to WD site, www.wdc.com -- and download the latest version of
DlgTools, that can verify if this overlay is actually installed, and
remove it without data loss in that case.
--
Mikhail Zhilin (MS MVP - DTS)
http://www.aha.ru/~mwz
Sorry, no technical support by e-mail.
Please reply to the newsgroups only.
======

 

[BRH]

Mikhail -- Thanks again for your help on this.... But I need a few more
specifics, if you wouldn't mind.

As you recommended, I downloaded the latest version of Data Life Guard Tools
(Version 10), and created a boot diskette. After booting from this diskette, and
following the procedures outlined at www.wdc.com, I don't get an option to
Uninstall EZ-BIOS.

Here's the procedure I've followed exactly:

1. Boot from diskette.
2. Choose "Install Drive"
3. Choose "Advanced Options"
4. Choose "EZ-BIOS Set-up" and NEXT
5. From the drop-down menu, I choose Drive 2 (which I have verified as the
correct choice).

At this point, according to the procedures outlined on the website, I should get
an option called "Uninstall EZ-BIOS". However, the only option I have is
"Install EZ-BIOS", and "EZ-BIOS Settings". (Note: "EZ-BIOS Setiings" is greyed
out.) That seems to indicate that this drive does not have EZ-BIOS installed on
it, after all. Should I click on "Install EZ-BIOS" anyway and will that bring me
to an Uninstall option? I'm afraid to just click on "Install EZ-BIOS" without
knowing what's next. I definitely do NOT want to install EZ-BIOS onto the drive
if it's not already there.

Any suggestions? Do I go ahead and click on "Install EZ-BIOS" and continue from
there? Am I following the wrong procedure or using the wrong utility from
Western Digital? Or is there another procedure to follow to get this drive
recognized by WindowsXP (hopefully without losing data)?

Thanks again -- very much.

Bert

Bert,

Then it seems as this drive was a bootable one [I've re-read the thread
now -- and yes, it was], and has the drive overlay "Ontrack Disk
Manager" (or its clone like MaxBlast or EzDrive) installed.

I would go to WD site, www.wdc.com -- and download the latest version of
DlgTools, that can verify if this overlay is actually installed, and
remove it without data loss in that case.
--
Mikhail Zhilin (MS MVP - DTS)
http://www.aha.ru/~mwz
Sorry, no technical support by e-mail.
Please reply to the newsgroups only.
======

Mikhail.

Everything shows as "Healthy", but when I right-click on the part with no
letter (on the left side of the main panel), the only choices that I'm
presented with are "Delete Partition" and "Help". Note that this drive is
listed as "Healthy (Active)". My original drive is listed as "Healthy
(System)" on Partition C:, while Partition D: (on the same original physical
disk) is listed as "Healthy".

I have Partition Magic 8 which recognizes the drive, but it only gives me
these choices...."Delete", "Format", "Properties" and "Change Drive Letter"
(but there are no drive letters to choose from and it won't let me type one
in).

Thanks for the help....

Bert

 

[Mikhail Zhilin]

Bert,

It is definitely no need to install EzBios -- if it is not installed.

It was the most possible reason with the symptoms you described -- but
the assumption didn't come true...

But the other question is: if you boot from the standard Win98 Startup
Disk (floppy) -- do you see this HDD?

You can create Startup Disk on the computer with Win98 (Control Panel --
Add/Remove Programs -- Startup Disk tab), or download and install its
image from www.bootdisk.com

And sorry, please: I won't be in Internet for a few weeks, and even
won't see your answer to this my reply -- but it may help others to find
a clue.
--
Mikhail Zhilin (MS MVP - Win9x)
http://www.aha.ru/~mwz
Sorry, no technical support by e-mail.
Please reply to the newsgroups only.
======

Mikhail -- Thanks again for your help on this.... But I need a few more
specifics, if you wouldn't mind.

As you recommended, I downloaded the latest version of Data Life Guard Tools
(Version 10), and created a boot diskette. After booting from this diskette, and
following the procedures outlined at www.wdc.com, I don't get an option to
Uninstall EZ-BIOS.

Here's the procedure I've followed exactly:

1. Boot from diskette.
2. Choose "Install Drive"
3. Choose "Advanced Options"
4. Choose "EZ-BIOS Set-up" and NEXT
5. From the drop-down menu, I choose Drive 2 (which I have verified as the
correct choice).

At this point, according to the procedures outlined on the website, I should get
an option called "Uninstall EZ-BIOS". However, the only option I have is
"Install EZ-BIOS", and "EZ-BIOS Settings". (Note: "EZ-BIOS Setiings" is greyed
out.) That seems to indicate that this drive does not have EZ-BIOS installed on
it, after all. Should I click on "Install EZ-BIOS" anyway and will that bring me
to an Uninstall option? I'm afraid to just click on "Install EZ-BIOS" without
knowing what's next. I definitely do NOT want to install EZ-BIOS onto the drive
if it's not already there.

Any suggestions? Do I go ahead and click on "Install EZ-BIOS" and continue from
there? Am I following the wrong procedure or using the wrong utility from
Western Digital? Or is there another procedure to follow to get this drive
recognized by WindowsXP (hopefully without losing data)?

Thanks again -- very much.

Bert

Bert,

Then it seems as this drive was a bootable one [I've re-read the thread
now -- and yes, it was], and has the drive overlay "Ontrack Disk
Manager" (or its clone like MaxBlast or EzDrive) installed.

I would go to WD site, www.wdc.com -- and download the latest version of
DlgTools, that can verify if this overlay is actually installed, and
remove it without data loss in that case.
--
Mikhail Zhilin (MS MVP - DTS)
http://www.aha.ru/~mwz
Sorry, no technical support by e-mail.
Please reply to the newsgroups only.
======

Today I attempted to add a second physical hard drive to my XP Pro
system, and was unsuccessful. XP would not recognize it.

First, let me give some background info --- I had originally installed
WinXP onto a fresh new drive a few weeks ago, and made sure that it
worked fine. My intention is to install my "old" drive as a second
physical drive on to this new XP system. This "old" drive is in good
working order, but was the boot drive when I was using Win98. (Win98
and all programs and data are still on this drive). I was careful to
set the jumpers properly to Master and Slave, and connected the drive
cable. Upon boot-up, only the "new" drive was recognized in XP. The
"old" Win98 drive was not shown in My Computer (although the taskbar had
indicated that a new drive had been detected. I got the message that
new hardware had been found).

The interesting thing is that, although XP doesn't see the Win98 drive,
Partition Magic 8 (launched from within Windows) does. However, PM8
lists it as Active and Primary (same as my boot partition on my master
drive) and refuses to assign it a drive letter. The only option it
gives me is to format it. I don't want to do that, since I have many
gigs of downloads (patches, demos, etc) that I want to be able to use on
temy XP system. Once the Win98 drive gets recognized, I had intended to
simply erase the Windows directory (and subdirectories) on it.

Here's my present set-up: First Physical drive has 2 partitions - C:
has Windows and other system files; D: has all program and data files.
Letter E: is skipped, since that's what I want to assign the Win98 hard
drive to. The rest of the leteters go to my DVD drive, burner, and Zip
Disk.

Can anyone help me out with where I went wrong on installing this second
drive? BTW -- Both drives are identical -- WD Caviar 80 Gig w/ 8meg
cache.

Thanks!
Bert

 

[BRH]

Well, FWIW here's what was wrong.....(sheepish grin) I had forgotten that I had
Goback installed on this 2nd drive. Since Goback was not installed on the XP master
drive, XP couldn't read this slave drive. Partition Magic saw the drive but couldn't
read it. Setting the jumpers on the slave drive to make it a master again, then
rebooting to this 2nd drive and uninstalling Goback did the trick.

Thanks to all for responding to my questions.

Bert,

It is definitely no need to install EzBios -- if it is not installed.

It was the most possible reason with the symptoms you described -- but
the assumption didn't come true...

But the other question is: if you boot from the standard Win98 Startup
Disk (floppy) -- do you see this HDD?

You can create Startup Disk on the computer with Win98 (Control Panel --
Add/Remove Programs -- Startup Disk tab), or download and install its
image from www.bootdisk.com

And sorry, please: I won't be in Internet for a few weeks, and even
won't see your answer to this my reply -- but it may help others to find
a clue.
--
Mikhail Zhilin (MS MVP - Win9x)
http://www.aha.ru/~mwz
Sorry, no technical support by e-mail.
Please reply to the newsgroups only.
======

Mikhail -- Thanks again for your help on this.... But I need a few more
specifics, if you wouldn't mind.

As you recommended, I downloaded the latest version of Data Life Guard Tools
(Version 10), and created a boot diskette. After booting from this diskette, and
following the procedures outlined at www.wdc.com, I don't get an option to
Uninstall EZ-BIOS.

Here's the procedure I've followed exactly:

1. Boot from diskette.
2. Choose "Install Drive"
3. Choose "Advanced Options"
4. Choose "EZ-BIOS Set-up" and NEXT
5. From the drop-down menu, I choose Drive 2 (which I have verified as the
correct choice).

At this point, according to the procedures outlined on the website, I should get
an option called "Uninstall EZ-BIOS". However, the only option I have is
"Install EZ-BIOS", and "EZ-BIOS Settings". (Note: "EZ-BIOS Setiings" is greyed
out.) That seems to indicate that this drive does not have EZ-BIOS installed on
it, after all. Should I click on "Install EZ-BIOS" anyway and will that bring me
to an Uninstall option? I'm afraid to just click on "Install EZ-BIOS" without
knowing what's next. I definitely do NOT want to install EZ-BIOS onto the drive
if it's not already there.

Any suggestions? Do I go ahead and click on "Install EZ-BIOS" and continue from
there? Am I following the wrong procedure or using the wrong utility from
Western Digital? Or is there another procedure to follow to get this drive
recognized by WindowsXP (hopefully without losing data)?

Thanks again -- very much.

Bert

Bert,

Then it seems as this drive was a bootable one [I've re-read the thread
now -- and yes, it was], and has the drive overlay "Ontrack Disk
Manager" (or its clone like MaxBlast or EzDrive) installed.

I would go to WD site, www.wdc.com -- and download the latest version of
DlgTools, that can verify if this overlay is actually installed, and
remove it without data loss in that case.
--
Mikhail Zhilin (MS MVP - DTS)
http://www.aha.ru/~mwz
Sorry, no technical support by e-mail.
Please reply to the newsgroups only.
======

Today I attempted to add a second physical hard drive to my XP Pro
system, and was unsuccessful. XP would not recognize it.

First, let me give some background info --- I had originally installed
WinXP onto a fresh new drive a few weeks ago, and made sure that it
worked fine. My intention is to install my "old" drive as a second
physical drive on to this new XP system. This "old" drive is in good
working order, but was the boot drive when I was using Win98. (Win98
and all programs and data are still on this drive). I was careful to
set the jumpers properly to Master and Slave, and connected the drive
cable. Upon boot-up, only the "new" drive was recognized in XP. The
"old" Win98 drive was not shown in My Computer (although the taskbar had
indicated that a new drive had been detected. I got the message that
new hardware had been found).

The interesting thing is that, although XP doesn't see the Win98 drive,
Partition Magic 8 (launched from within Windows) does. However, PM8
lists it as Active and Primary (same as my boot partition on my master
drive) and refuses to assign it a drive letter. The only option it
gives me is to format it. I don't want to do that, since I have many
gigs of downloads (patches, demos, etc) that I want to be able to use on
temy XP system. Once the Win98 drive gets recognized, I had intended to
simply erase the Windows directory (and subdirectories) on it.

Here's my present set-up: First Physical drive has 2 partitions - C:
has Windows and other system files; D: has all program and data files.
Letter E: is skipped, since that's what I want to assign the Win98 hard
drive to. The rest of the leteters go to my DVD drive, burner, and Zip
Disk.

Can anyone help me out with where I went wrong on installing this second
drive? BTW -- Both drives are identical -- WD Caviar 80 Gig w/ 8meg
cache.

Thanks!
Bert