Activation request on new HP desktop with Vista pre-installed

[Alias]

Yeah, because an OS originally written in 1971 (Unix) is SO much more
advanced than one origianlly written in 1993 (NT).

Mike

It's had longer to do it right. MS is the new shiny snake oil everyone
bought.

Alias

 

[NotMe]

That's what I love about this group, such nice, intellectual discussions!
LOL

<<~takes handful of rainbow colored pills & puts on Tinfoil beanie, fastens
chin strap...

 

[Frank]

Alias wrote:

Why don't you set up your Outlook to remind you when you're supposed to
suck Frank's cock?

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hehehe...they're getting to you aren't they alias...hahaha...loser.
You're a genuine moron...hahaha...linux loser.
Hahahahahahahah...you just gotta love it!
Idiot!
Frank

 

[Guest]

I've had my share of issues with Windows Vista and there are a list of
problems I've experienced including activation issues such as this one. Once
you get it going though, I generally like Vista. Thanks for the information
regarding the phone activation, I'll try that next.

I've got to wonder, why Alias is on this site and being so rude. It's a bad
way to represent Ubuntu.

 

[cquirke (MVP Windows shell/user)]

On Mon, 23 Jul 2007 18:16:55 -0600, "NotMe"

Interesting, I was under the impression that an OS installed & BIOS locked
by the manufacturer wouldn't have to be reactivated like that.

That was the old approach in XP:
- royalty OEMs lock to BIOS
- generic OEMs monitor multiple components

I see that Vista now includes BIOS as a heavily-weighted monitored
component, which implies they may use the same model for both royalty
OEMs (who typically build masses of identical PCs, facilitating
license-hopping between these) and generic OEMs (who are more likely
to build small runs of similar PCs, or custom-build unique systems).

Apparently MS doesn't even trust their partners.

Would you, with partners like "rootkit" Sony?

Unless the MB or BIOS was changed, I'd scream about that one!
I would call HP and tell them what I thought about it.
The only way things will change is if enough people/companies pressure MS to
back off their draconian ways.

Yep. It's said that the market allows us to "vote with our feet", but
we're dependent on Windows if we want to use apps that run on it (yes,
there's WINE and emulation on Mac, but...) and more to the point, the
closed nature of MS-OEM relations make it nearly impossible to spot
traps like the dreaded "recovery disk" or disk-less "recovery
partition" that royalty OEMs are likely to inflict on you.

I expect a phone call to MS's activation center will get you activated
again, but if this happened out of the blue (no hardware change) then:
- insist they note this for thier records
- extract an explanation of why this happened to you
- if offered to escalate, do so
- feed back to this thread

I'm seeing a lot of "my PC demands activation for no reason and I
haven't changed anything" posts here, and I suspect there's something
burning under all the smoke. Trouble is, once posters get activated,
they lose interest and the root causes never get chased up. See...

http://cquirke.spaces.live.com/blog/cns!C7DAB1E724AB8C23!190.entry?_c=BlogPart

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[cquirke (MVP Windows shell/user)]

On Mon, 23 Jul 2007 17:24:54 -0700, "Michael Solomon"

Actually, he wasn't getting an activation prompt, it was a validation prompt
and usually OEM setups will not generally validated as "Genuine Windows."
That's a problem if you need to download various updates as they require
validation. I thought this was something that could be resolved with the
activation center but, I might be wrong, he may need to at least check with
his OEM first regarding this issue.

There is cross-talk between these two systems...

http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;EN-US;925616

<paste>

CAUSE

This problem occurs if Windows Vista is running in Reduced
Functionality Mode for any of the following reasons:

* You did not activate Windows Vista within the 30-day activation
period.

* Windows Vista detects that the hardware on your computer has
changed significantly and that you did not reactivate Windows Vista
within the 3-day grace period for re-activation. This scenario is also
known as the "out of tolerance" condition of the activation.

* You are running a version of Windows Vista that was detected as
non-genuine.

</paste>

The last elevates WPA bugs to activation DoS attacks, if read at face
value (i.e. that if WPA logic rejects your license, it no longer just
nags you, but triggers the activation Denial-of-Service payload).

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The bulls were running wild
because they're big and mean and sacred (Jack J)

 

[Alias]

Alias wrote:

He does that good a job, eh?

Alias

 

[Alias]

I've had my share of issues with Windows Vista and there are a list of
problems I've experienced including activation issues such as this one. Once
you get it going though, I generally like Vista. Thanks for the information
regarding the phone activation, I'll try that next.

I've got to wonder, why Alias is on this site and being so rude. It's a bad
way to represent Ubuntu.

You mean like this?:

You're a genuine moron...hahaha...linux loser.
Hahahahahahahah...you just gotta love it!Take your pointy head out of
your arse for a few seconds and...well go ahead and leave it there.
That's where it's always been and that's where it belongs.
Frank
Idiot!
Frank


hehehe...they're getting to you aren't they alias...hahaha...loser.
You're a genuine moron...hahaha...linux loser.
Hahahahahahahah...you just gotta love it!
Idiot!
Frank

Can't control your rage over me kick your dumb arse all over this ng can
you, you stupid moron!
Never said some things in Vista aren't broken, they're just aren't
consistently broken and obviously you don't have the computer acumen to
figure out how to fix them or do workarounds.
You have one big stupid mouth and your pointy head shoved all the way up
your arse.
Give it up bozo as you'll never be smarter than most people.
Frank

So your now admitting to being a pimp?
Have you no pride?
I guess not after seeing all the lies and bs you've posted in this Vista ng.
Loser.
Frank

Alias

 

[Bill Yanaire]

Why don't you set your sorry excuse for Outlook in Ubuntu to remind yourself
about your evening with the sheep.

 

[Bill Yanaire]

Frank is right. You are a loser, a troll, an Idiot, a Linux loser, and a
few other things I can't mention.

 

[Frank]

He does that good a job, eh?

Alias

He's certainly doing a number on you!...hahahah...lol!
Frank

 

[Frank]

I've had my share of issues with Windows Vista and there are a list of
problems I've experienced including activation issues such as this one. Once
you get it going though, I generally like Vista. Thanks for the information
regarding the phone activation, I'll try that next.

I've got to wonder, why Alias is on this site and being so rude. It's a bad
way to represent Ubuntu.

He's a brain dead idiot who also just happens to be a complete moron and
a little sawed off runt of a piss ante and he's a coward.
Oh, and he can't afford to purchase Vista cause he's flat busted broke.
He's also proly a fugitive of USA justice hiding in spain. He's proly
got wants and warrants out for his arrest and he hints at being a child
molester.
Hopefully they'll quickly capture his sorry ass and bring him to the
justice he deserves.
Frank

Btw, he's also a know pathological liar.
So don't believe a word he says.

 

[Bill Yanaire]

That's right. I saw some guy get arrested on "To Catch A Predator" and he
was from Spain. When they were taking him away, he was mumbling something
about Ubuntu. They they threw the book at him!

 

[Frank]

Why don't you set your sorry excuse for Outlook in Ubuntu to remind yourself
about your evening with the sheep.

He says he was only helping that sheep over the fence but (pun intended)
we all know he's a pathological liar.
Frank

 

[Alias]

He's certainly doing a number on you!...hahahah...lol!
Frank

Your typical lame attempt at trying to project on others is noted and
it's pathetic.

Alias

 

[Alias]

Why don't you set your sorry excuse for Outlook in Ubuntu to remind yourself
about your evening with the sheep.

Because, unlike you and Frank, I don't do sheep, of course!

Alias

 

[Alias]

Frank is right. You are a loser, a troll, an Idiot, a Linux loser, and a
few other things I can't mention.

So Outlook is telling you it's Frank time again?

Alias

 

[Bill Yanaire]

That isn't what the farmer said. You went into the farm, had some wine and
cheese, and half hour later, the sheep were smiling !

 

[Alias]

He's a brain dead idiot who also just happens to be a complete moron and
a little sawed off runt of a piss ante and he's a coward.

Charming. Too bad it's all lies.

Oh, and he can't afford to purchase Vista cause he's flat busted broke.

A lie.

He's also proly a fugitive of USA justice hiding in spain. He's proly
got wants and warrants out for his arrest and he hints at being a child
molester.

Another lie.

Hopefully they'll quickly capture his sorry ass and bring him to the
justice he deserves.
Frank

Another lie.

Btw, he's also a know pathological liar.
So don't believe a word he says.

Projecting again, eh? Tsk, tsk.

Alias

 

[Alias]

That's right. I saw some guy get arrested on "To Catch A Predator" and he
was from Spain. When they were taking him away, he was mumbling something
about Ubuntu. They they threw the book at him!

Fantasizing again? Isn't Frank good enough for you?

Alias