Activation-How do I stop the insanity?

[Alias]

It would be so helpful to us in the UK if you guys can translate non
standard american terms for us or provide links where we can learn from.

I don't know what Horsepucky means. I don't expect you to be rude for
trivial matter such as this so I assume it is just a normal american
slang for something.

Best regards,

It is synomonous with "bullsh*t".

Alias

 

[kurttrail]

Done it. Cracked OS would probably not work on his system considering
he has PnP requiring re-activation! This says it all!

This makes no sense, and all is says is that you are a fool.

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"Produkt-Aktivierung macht frei"

 

[kurttrail]

Using a "volume license" may avert some of the issues related
to activation but it also opens the door to other ones. Use of
volume licenses should be limited to sites where they belong,
such as the business with an IT staff to roll out the updates
and patches. For the average home user to attempt updates whilst
using Windows XP on a volume license would not work well without
the person having the knowledge of an IT to maintain it or access
to an IT who is supporting the machine under the license. YMMV on
this idea.

You don't need IT knowledge to update a Corp Version. All you need is
to learn Common Sense Computing.

http://comsense.microscum.com

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[kurttrail]

Wait a minute. You telling me if I have XP Pro I don't have to fool
with this activation?

No, the Corp Version or Conversion is a Volume Licensed copy of XP, or
one that has been converted using VL files.

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[kurttrail]

I have plugged in thousands of USB devices into many hundreds of
different computers. The next time doing so causes me to have to
either reboot or reactivate a computer, will be the first time that I
have seen this phenomenon.

I would call this an anomaly, not a standard occurrence. Deal with it
and get on with your life. It is inconsequential, at best.

Yes, other people being treated like they are guilty is inconsequential
to those that are fascists at heart.

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[kurttrail]

Your very first post.

I am just telling you that plugging in a USB camera should NOT be the
cause of a reboot or a reactivation. If you know this, the
information you posted was extraneous and not pertinent to what
occurred with your system, and should not even have been included
with the description of your experience. By the end of your first
post you turned to ranting.
BTW, the time you took with only your first post would have been well
spent by just reactivating your operating system. You have spent well
over ten times that amount of time now!

What a Dick! Activation only screws with real paying customers, and is
a total waste of time, and sometimes more.



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[Asher_N]

Using a "volume license" may avert some of the issues related
to activation but it also opens the door to other ones. Use of
volume licenses should be limited to sites where they belong,
such as the business with an IT staff to roll out the updates
and patches. For the average home user to attempt updates whilst
using Windows XP on a volume license would not work well without
the person having the knowledge of an IT to maintain it or access
to an IT who is supporting the machine under the license. YMMV on
this idea.

You don't know what the **** your talking about. VL software is the same as
retail. It just 'auto-activates'. You can still use Windows Update to
update.

 

[kurttrail]

I know that it seems to suck, but you just got a bad tech. A popup on
your screen will tell you exactly how many days you have to activate
or reactivate. Believe what your computer tells you, not some person
from a third world country.

I change hardware much more than others also. I have had to
reactivate about 4-5 times over the years because of this. My
situation is NOT the norm. Many, many people buy a computer and used
it until it dies, without even adding one additional program or piece
of hardware. They don't know that they can. They replace what may go
bad by sending the computer back to the manufacturer. What they
usually get is an exact replacement part.
Also, their computer may have, in fact, been activated by the
manufacturer or need no activation because of the way the
manufacturer installs the operating system on their computers. The
customer/user does not even know that the process exists.

You and I are different. I have learned to live with it and I am
certain that you can also. At most, it is a phone call of about 5
minutes.

Yep and some Americans learned to live with the Bush administrations
lies.

And the phone call takes more than 5 minutes liar. Just navigating the
BS menus, and typing in your activation code, and then having to repeat
it takes longer than 5 minutes. And that is if a rep is available
immediately. MS seems to have cut down on the number of phone reps, and
a wait on hold is likely to.



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[RA]

Using a "volume license" may avert some of the issues related
to activation but it also opens the door to other ones. Use of
volume licenses should be limited to sites where they belong,
such as the business with an IT staff to roll out the updates
and patches. For the average home user to attempt updates whilst
using Windows XP on a volume license would not work well without
the person having the knowledge of an IT to maintain it or access
to an IT who is supporting the machine under the license. YMMV on
this idea.

Getting updates with a volume license is no different than getting updates
with a regular license. We have used both in the same domain environment. It
works the same out of the domain also.

 

[Stuart]

Mark
If you visit:
http://www.licenturion.com/xp/
and download:
XPInfo executable
you will have a tool that shows the status of your system "votes".
At least on my system, no votes change when installing/uninstalling USB devices including my Nikon CoolPix 4300.
Stuart

 

[Frank]

Thanks for mentioning this because I'm going to try to upgrade from ME
to XP Home SP2 using this technique. For the last couple of days, I
was thinking about how best to deal with the peripherals. However, can
you provide more info about why it's better to install all the
programs before attaching and detecting peripherals? With M.E.,
whenever I do a format and total reinstall, I always make sure that
all of my hardware (including all peripherals) is functioning before
installing any programs (well, that is except for Winzip and
Acroread).

A lot of USB peripherals must have the drivers installed before the
hookup.
Winzip has caused me problems with XP. Besides windows has its own
built in zip/extract function.

 

[Frank]

London. I am an emeritus professor of Computing and Artificial
Intelligence.>>>


LMAO!!! Now who has nothing better to do?

Ok, if you say so, I guess that makes it true. Bye bye.

PROVERB

WHEN YOU CAN'T DO.....PREACH/TEACH

 

[Guest]

You people may find it hard to believe that a pnp device could trigger
activation but, it happened to me also. I loaded the software for my web
cam(Logitech) and rebooted like it said to do. When up came the activation
screen, you must phone MS to activate. Luckily I could use the touchtone
input method of activation.

 

[Alias]

It didn't give you the option to activate online, only by phone? Had you
changed any hardware prior to installing the camera since the last
activation?

Alias

 

[John Corliss]

A lot of USB peripherals must have the drivers installed before the
hookup.
Winzip has caused me problems with XP. Besides windows has its own
built in zip/extract function.

Frank, I know that drivers sometimes need to be installed before
hardware. I was only refering to programs, not drivers.

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[echy]

Wondering why you adopt such an aggressive/angry stance. Doesn't seem
like such a good idea when you are seeking help or advice. Just my
personal opinionthough, not trying to be a "pain".

Regards
Echy

 

[Richard Urban]

The last time I reactivated by phone I WAS done within 5 minutes. Sorry to
inform you of this. I was here - you weren't!

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You would realize that you don't know what you thought you knew!

 

[Richard Urban]

Having a good day I see! You can't flap the unflappable.

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[Triffid]

About three days ago I posted a message here or in the hardware group
defending MS Activation because it took me less than 3 clicks; it was fast
and easy. Well guess what.

I hooked up a USB camera last night. I got a popup saying that before the
effects could take place I had to reboot. When I rebooted, I got the
Activation popup saying I my hardware configuration had changed.

Before that I switched HDD's around and put in a new cd drive. I don't know
how I could have exceeded anything. Anyway, I let the activation
automatically dial me into their 800 number. I am on dial-up by the way.

Then I got disconnected saying I had exceeded my activations. I then
realized I was going to have to enter a 60 digit number, so I said screw it
and opted out to talk directly to a rep. I was on hold for 4 minutes. When
she came on, I told her all I did was connect a usb camera. She explained
that everytime my hardware changed I would have to reactivate.

I told her I had a new video card coming and a new DVD writer coming, so I
had better wait before reactivating now because I don't want to have to go
through this again when my new hardware arrives from newegg.

She said I could not wait and that I was going to have to call out my 60
digit number and then she would reissue me a new number that I had to enter
to reactivate.

This whole process took exactly 10 minutes. And I am going to have to go
through this every time I connect a USB camera? Are you kidding me?

The camera is a cybershot and when I plug it into my USB hub it says found
new hardware but you must reboot before changes can take effect.

Will MS pay for me to get a card reader so I don't have to keep
disconnecting my camera? I can't believe I am going to have to go through
this again when my video card gets here. I am going to make damn sure I do
the DVD writer at the same time.

How much money is MS saving by doing this activation? I am telling you that
I am actually thinking about getting an illegal copy of XP now!!!!!

When I bought this XP from Circuit City, you guys should have had this
disclaimer on it:

WARNING: Microsoft now makes it very inconvenient for you to use XP if you
are going to build your own computer.

Man, this thread is ugly !

Gives me another reason to like my job - it comes with an XP Volume
License

Triffid

 

[Mark Smith]

I stopped following this thread days ago because it got too personal, but I
wanted to let everyone know that I just put in my new video card. I did not
get the activation screen upon reboot.

My 1gig memory will not be here until Tuesday though.