A toughy.

J

Jan Il

Hi Glenn :)

As you do not mention if you have tried any of the adjustments that have
been suggested here, or if so, what the results were, nor if you tried the
Quote Fix. Thus, it is difficult to know where you are. It might be more
beneficial for you to post this part of your problem to the OE newsgroup and
see if they can advise you more fully on this particular issue:
microsoft.public.windows.inetexplorer.ie6_outlookexpress

Hope this helps.

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Go no farther than 2 lines down (or up if
ascending) to my answer to Sandi time 8:26 AM.

It is fragmented on 2 different lines on mine both
when it showed up in 'sent' and when I downloaded it
with both OE and thunderbird. That's 3 places I see
it fragmented here and I'm assuming it is there too
because thunderbird doesn't scramble things. (Yet)

Glenn

Jan said:
Hi Glenn :)

It would be very helpful if you could provide us with a link or name
of a post that you have posted to where the errant text is displayed, so
that we can see how it looks from our perspective. Seeing it from
your end may be different than it actually looks.

What newsgroup or forum did you recently post in that this happened,
and the name and date of the subject, or the link to the post. That
would may give us more of an idea where or what caused the problem
you are seeing.

Hope this helps :)

Jan :)
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It downloaded clean but you should see it in my 'sent items'
directory. It fragmented THREE LINES and is a mess. I guess I
shouldn't care as long as it goes through clear as I don't use the
sent items that often and them they can be cleaned up. It still
clears the top screen though. Hmmm, I see the icon that was in the
sys tray is gone. Maybe it gave up.
Glenn

I can download it with both thunderbird and OE and it ISN'T
fragmented on this end. Maybe the little ditty works. Strangely
though, it IS fragmented in my 'sent items' directory. It still
clears the top screen on send though so maybe I still will have to
go through with your more radical suggestion. I'll be interested to
see if this goes through clear as I'm not even clicking the icon on
the tray. Glenn


Jan,

I have your little ditty on board and I will type enough lines to
make a paragraph. There will be no carriage returns in this
paragraph. I downloaded the recommended program and installed it.
If this sounds like drivel, you are right, I'm just trying to fill
out a paragraph. Looking at the authors illustration, this is a
common thing. I wonder why, with it being so common that although
I have described the phenomena many times on > this forum, you are
the only one to recognize it and address it?

(Paragraph) It is just sitting there in the tray doing nothing. I can
click on it and it brings up a popup that does nothing. Maybe it works
on its own and behind the lines? Here goes. [g]

Glenn


Hi Glenn :)

Here is a free little free utility called Quote Fix that does a
good job of correcting some errant text problems, especailly, in
newsgroups:
Quote Fix: - Free
http://www.linktz.com/3rd-party/OE-QuoteFix/index.html
Download
http://home.in.tum.de/~jain/dl.php?get=OE-QuoteFix

also...

Check the Tools>Options>Send
See if the "Reply to messages in the format in which they were
sent" is checked. If it is, uncheck it and see if that changes
anything. See if that makes any difference. Perhaps not, but, I
have found
that some formats work differently with some types of other
formats fo messages that I responde to, both in newsgroups and
e-mails. Hope this helps :)

Jan :)
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that's why they're so contagious.

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Jan Il wrote:

Hi Glenn :)

Comments in-line below:



Jan Il wrote:

Hi Glenn :)

I would suggest that you uninstall the SP2 before repairing
XP:



When I get the time, I will try that. It makes sense.



Good.


How to remove Windows XP Service Pack 2 from your computer
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;875350&Product=winxp,

then

Repair XP, follow the directions to reinstall the SP2, then
immediately visit the Windows update to reinstall all the
necessary updates.



The following paragraph is an example what was happening in OE
***************************************************************

In regards the fragmentation, I have no way to know how your
posts looked


as
you did not provide a link to it. But, it could be due to

how you have your OE set up. Can you explain what you mean
by fragmented? Perhaps post a small example here so we can


see what it
is

doing? You may be able to make a simple setting adjustment to
resolve that part of the problem.


***********************************************************
Looks weird, doesn't it? This stuff started after I had used
OE for years so I doubt that a setting would have changed and
I sure never made the change. The balance of the problem that I
never bothered to spell out because a re-load should fix it
too.



Does this happen when you send an e-mail, or does it only
happen when you post to the newsgroups?


Both and to answer another helper, I run 1600 X 1200 res and
this was breaking 1/2 way across and it is NOT doing it under
thunderbird, only OE.



*******************
Running a P4 /w 2.2 G and 512M memory.

OE6 6.00.2900.2180 (XPSP_SP2_rtm.040803-2158)

(I need to put a blank line at the top.)

OK. My problems. The line above is because it often (but not
always) cuts off the first 3 words of a post. Can't find out
why. Anyone?? I have mine set up with the list of subjects on
top and the "From:
To: and Subject" window on the bottom half. Always have and
assume it is standard with most folks. When I reply to a
post, it used to just send and return me to the post I was
replying to. Now it erases the top window except for the little
squares
showing where the subjects WERE. It hangs up there until I
click a different folder (newsgroup) and then go back to my
original one (like yours) and it will list normally again
except it starts at the top again and I have to scroll down
to the post I was replying to. What has changed? I have run
6 different virus finders and none of them find anything. I
just checked and I have all the MS updates. This is a hard
thing to explain and maybe I failed but feel free
to ask me for any clarification you need and I'll try. One
friend wants me to try Firefox but I have used MS since there
was a MS and want to continue but this is driving me nuts. (I
have since
gone to thunderbird but hope to go back.)



This does sound as if there is some corruption in the program,
and hopefully the repair will correct iRestore to a date prior
to the problem? Something may have happened that can be
corrected by doing a restore. I would recommend that you try a
System Restore first and see if that does not help resolve the
problem. Here are the instructions on how to do that in case
you need them. This will undo any harmful events that may have
taken place since the last restore point. How to do a System
Restore in XP
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;EN-US;Q306084


Not being afraid to try anything and I do, System Restore has
been my savior many, many times but I tried that sometime back
when I TRIED to go back before this started and even then, I
didn't seem to go back far enough. I have been convinced for
some time a re-load was the only answer. You will note that I
said OE is working fine on the other computer but I hadn't been
able to reload it on this
one. As you remember, this correspondence is through thunderbird
until this computer is cleared of the bug.


Hope this helps :)

Jan :)
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Glenn


Hope this helps :)

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Thanks Jan. If I am reading this thing right...........

Windows XP SP2: Reinstall Windows XP SP2

It is saying with SP2, I need not change anything in the
regs, just reinstall SP2? And that will fix OE?
The fixes for SP1 sound more plausible but I DO have SP2
so that is the only thing that applys? Seems like I tried
that recently and it did nothing to stop the fragmenting
etc but I have been fighting it for so long that by now I
have forgotten what all I HAVE tried. Glenn

Jan Il wrote:

Hi Glenn :)

First off, you have XP Pro, therefore, you cannot delete
IE/OE, as it is a core part of the XP program, and deleting
any of these files will seriously damage your XP program.
But, you can disable it, or repair it. I would suggest a
repair at this point and see if that helps, as some files
may have become corrupted. I have listed information on
how to repair XP. How to Reinstall or Repair Internet
Explorer and Outlook
Express in Windows
XP
http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=318378
If you have SP2 then read the SP2 section of these
instructions:
http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=318378#XSLTH3130121123120121120120


Hope this helps :)

Jan :)
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that's why they're so contagious.

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other readers.
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A poster in another NG commented they liked Netscape
better than Thunderbird and this was my response. Perhaps
someone here could answer my reload question.

I thought Thunderbird WAS Netscape.





Thunderbird is by Mozilla:
http://texturizer.net/thunderbird/features.html


I don't like it as well as OE but if you noticed how my
posts had sentences fragmented, OE was doing that. It
also screwed up my screen each time I hit "send".

Now that I am using thunderbird, I may try to delete OE
completely and see if I can reload it in a good state..





Little recent history on my OE's. I formated the hd on my
old puter and reloaded from scratch a new win98. It is
routed together with this one. Anyway the old version of
OE that was on the 98 cd worked and through M$ updates,
brought it up to the latest version and it works
perfectly. I'm just hesitant about messing with a working xp
pro on
this puter. If I am successful in deleting OE here, I
wonder if re-running the install cd would just do a clean
reload of the missing OE or mess up something else at the
same time. None of the forums will touch that question
because they evidently don't know. ?????????????
Click to expand...
Click to expand...
Click to expand...
 
G

Glenn

??????????????????

But I have. Aren't you reading my posts where I
have been experimenting with your little ditty
(QuoteFix) to stop fragmenting? And it seemed to
work? I still have the freeze up on sending and I
thought maybe Sandi's cure might fix that.

What I haven't done yet is the removal of sp2 and
reload oe. Sandi indicated if I had "X-RFC2646:
Format=Flowed; Original" in the properties that it
was my problem and a reload wouldn't cure anything.
I returned an group email telling her that I do
indeed have it and before I get more drastic, I
thought I would see what her cure would be for that
erroneous line. She just hasn't gotten back on it yet.

I have been explaining what I have been trying
through your gracious help on a regular basis. My
posts must not be getting through?

A thought. If I had the fragmenting problem and now
it seems a lot of people do, so much so that a
program (QuoteFix) had to be written to correct it,
I can't help but wonder where M$ is hiding and not
fixing their own software??? Although I have
complained about it in *many* of the M$ forums. you
are the only one that had a solution. :)

Glenn


Jan said:
Hi Glenn :)

As you do not mention if you have tried any of the adjustments that have
been suggested here, or if so, what the results were, nor if you tried
the Quote Fix. Thus, it is difficult to know where you are. It might
be more beneficial for you to post this part of your problem to the OE
newsgroup and see if they can advise you more fully on this particular
issue: microsoft.public.windows.inetexplorer.ie6_outlookexpress

Hope this helps.

Jan :)
Smiles are meant to be shared,
that's why they're so contagious.

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How to make a good newsgroup post:
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Go no farther than 2 lines down (or up if
ascending) to my answer to Sandi time 8:26 AM.

It is fragmented on 2 different lines on mine both
when it showed up in 'sent' and when I downloaded it
with both OE and thunderbird. That's 3 places I see
it fragmented here and I'm assuming it is there too
because thunderbird doesn't scramble things. (Yet)

Glenn

Jan said:
Hi Glenn :)

It would be very helpful if you could provide us with a link or name
of a post that you have posted to where the errant text is displayed, so
that we can see how it looks from our perspective. Seeing it from
your end may be different than it actually looks.

What newsgroup or forum did you recently post in that this happened,
and the name and date of the subject, or the link to the post. That
would may give us more of an idea where or what caused the problem
you are seeing.

Hope this helps :)

Jan :)
Smiles are meant to be shared,
that's why they're so contagious.

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readers. How to make a good newsgroup post:
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It downloaded clean but you should see it in my 'sent items'
directory. It fragmented THREE LINES and is a mess. I guess I
shouldn't care as long as it goes through clear as I don't use the
sent items that often and them they can be cleaned up. It still
clears the top screen though. Hmmm, I see the icon that was in the
sys tray is gone. Maybe it gave up.
Glenn

I can download it with both thunderbird and OE and it ISN'T
fragmented on this end. Maybe the little ditty works. Strangely
though, it IS fragmented in my 'sent items' directory. It still
clears the top screen on send though so maybe I still will have to
go through with your more radical suggestion. I'll be interested to
see if this goes through clear as I'm not even clicking the icon on
the tray. Glenn


Jan,

I have your little ditty on board and I will type enough lines to
make a paragraph. There will be no carriage returns in this
paragraph. I downloaded the recommended program and installed it.
If this sounds like drivel, you are right, I'm just trying to fill
out a paragraph. Looking at the authors illustration, this is a
common thing. I wonder why, with it being so common that although
I have described the phenomena many times on > this forum, you are
the only one to recognize it and address it?

(Paragraph) It is just sitting there in the tray doing nothing. I
can click on it and it brings up a popup that does nothing. Maybe
it works on its own and behind the lines? Here goes. [g]

Glenn


Hi Glenn :)

Here is a free little free utility called Quote Fix that does a
good job of correcting some errant text problems, especailly, in
newsgroups:
Quote Fix: - Free
http://www.linktz.com/3rd-party/OE-QuoteFix/index.html
Download
http://home.in.tum.de/~jain/dl.php?get=OE-QuoteFix

also...

Check the Tools>Options>Send
See if the "Reply to messages in the format in which they were
sent" is checked. If it is, uncheck it and see if that changes
anything. See if that makes any difference. Perhaps not, but, I
have found
that some formats work differently with some types of other
formats fo messages that I responde to, both in newsgroups and
e-mails. Hope this helps :)

Jan :)
Smiles are meant to be shared,
that's why they're so contagious.

Replies are posted only to the newsgroup for the benefit or other
readers. How to make a good newsgroup post:
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Jan Il wrote:

Hi Glenn :)

Comments in-line below:



Jan Il wrote:

Hi Glenn :)

I would suggest that you uninstall the SP2 before repairing
XP:




When I get the time, I will try that. It makes sense.




Good.


How to remove Windows XP Service Pack 2 from your computer
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;875350&Product=winxp,


then

Repair XP, follow the directions to reinstall the SP2, then
immediately visit the Windows update to reinstall all the
necessary updates.




The following paragraph is an example what was happening in OE
***************************************************************

In regards the fragmentation, I have no way to know how your
posts looked



as
you did not provide a link to it. But, it could be due to

how you have your OE set up. Can you explain what you mean
by fragmented? Perhaps post a small example here so we can



see what it
is

doing? You may be able to make a simple setting adjustment to
resolve that part of the problem.



***********************************************************
Looks weird, doesn't it? This stuff started after I had used
OE for years so I doubt that a setting would have changed and
I sure never made the change. The balance of the problem that I
never bothered to spell out because a re-load should fix it
too.




Does this happen when you send an e-mail, or does it only
happen when you post to the newsgroups?



Both and to answer another helper, I run 1600 X 1200 res and
this was breaking 1/2 way across and it is NOT doing it under
thunderbird, only OE.



*******************
Running a P4 /w 2.2 G and 512M memory.

OE6 6.00.2900.2180 (XPSP_SP2_rtm.040803-2158)

(I need to put a blank line at the top.)

OK. My problems. The line above is because it often (but not
always) cuts off the first 3 words of a post. Can't find out
why. Anyone?? I have mine set up with the list of subjects on
top and the "From:
To: and Subject" window on the bottom half. Always have and
assume it is standard with most folks. When I reply to a
post, it used to just send and return me to the post I was
replying to. Now it erases the top window except for the
little squares
showing where the subjects WERE. It hangs up there until I
click a different folder (newsgroup) and then go back to my
original one (like yours) and it will list normally again
except it starts at the top again and I have to scroll down
to the post I was replying to. What has changed? I have run
6 different virus finders and none of them find anything. I
just checked and I have all the MS updates. This is a hard
thing to explain and maybe I failed but feel free
to ask me for any clarification you need and I'll try. One
friend wants me to try Firefox but I have used MS since there
was a MS and want to continue but this is driving me nuts. (I
have since
gone to thunderbird but hope to go back.)




This does sound as if there is some corruption in the program,
and hopefully the repair will correct iRestore to a date prior
to the problem? Something may have happened that can be
corrected by doing a restore. I would recommend that you try a
System Restore first and see if that does not help resolve the
problem. Here are the instructions on how to do that in case
you need them. This will undo any harmful events that may have
taken place since the last restore point. How to do a System
Restore in XP
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;EN-US;Q306084




Not being afraid to try anything and I do, System Restore has
been my savior many, many times but I tried that sometime back
when I TRIED to go back before this started and even then, I
didn't seem to go back far enough. I have been convinced for
some time a re-load was the only answer. You will note that I
said OE is working fine on the other computer but I hadn't been
able to reload it on this
one. As you remember, this correspondence is through thunderbird
until this computer is cleared of the bug.


Hope this helps :)

Jan :)
Smiles are meant to be shared,
that's why they're so contagious.

Replies are posted only to the newsgroup for the benefit or
other readers.
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Glenn


Hope this helps :)

Jan :)
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that's why they're so contagious.

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other readers.
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Thanks Jan. If I am reading this thing right...........

Windows XP SP2: Reinstall Windows XP SP2

It is saying with SP2, I need not change anything in the
regs, just reinstall SP2? And that will fix OE?
The fixes for SP1 sound more plausible but I DO have SP2
so that is the only thing that applys? Seems like I tried
that recently and it did nothing to stop the fragmenting
etc but I have been fighting it for so long that by now I
have forgotten what all I HAVE tried. Glenn

Jan Il wrote:

Hi Glenn :)

First off, you have XP Pro, therefore, you cannot delete
IE/OE, as it is a core part of the XP program, and deleting
any of these files will seriously damage your XP program.
But, you can disable it, or repair it. I would suggest a
repair at this point and see if that helps, as some files
may have become corrupted. I have listed information on
how to repair XP. How to Reinstall or Repair Internet
Explorer and Outlook
Express in Windows
XP
http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=318378
If you have SP2 then read the SP2 section of these
instructions:
http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=318378#XSLTH3130121123120121120120



Hope this helps :)

Jan :)
Smiles are meant to be shared,
that's why they're so contagious.

Replies are posted only to the newsgroup for the benefit or
other readers.
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http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm


A poster in another NG commented they liked Netscape
better than Thunderbird and this was my response. Perhaps
someone here could answer my reload question.

I thought Thunderbird WAS Netscape.






Thunderbird is by Mozilla:
http://texturizer.net/thunderbird/features.html


I don't like it as well as OE but if you noticed how my
posts had sentences fragmented, OE was doing that. It
also screwed up my screen each time I hit "send".

Now that I am using thunderbird, I may try to delete OE
completely and see if I can reload it in a good state..






Little recent history on my OE's. I formated the hd on my
old puter and reloaded from scratch a new win98. It is
routed together with this one. Anyway the old version of
OE that was on the 98 cd worked and through M$ updates,
brought it up to the latest version and it works
perfectly. I'm just hesitant about messing with a working
xp pro on
this puter. If I am successful in deleting OE here, I
wonder if re-running the install cd would just do a clean
reload of the missing OE or mess up something else at the
same time. None of the forums will touch that question
because they evidently don't know. ?????????????
Click to expand...
Click to expand...
Click to expand...
 
J

Jan Il

Hi Glenn :)

Thank you for the clarification, and I apologize that I may not be seeing
all of your responses correctly.

There are many reasons that posts can be, or appear to be, fragmented.
Sometimes it is merely a setting, such as replying in the same format as the
message received, or how you have your text set for replies. I have
experienced this same fragmented appearance problem many times in posts to
newsgroups and emails. I use the Plain text setting for both emails and
newsgroups, and that seems to help for most situations. My security
settings do not like HTML, and many types of groups discourage using HTML
formats, so that is why I suggested that you try changing those settings to
see if it helped. But, often the problem is on the other side of the fence
that you can't do anything about, and the fragmentation will not be
avoidable by anything that you do, or don't do, on your end.

Also, if you have not already done so, you might try creating a new user
account, as often user accounts become corrupted and no longer function
properly.

If you have always had problems of this nature with OE, then that would be
one thing, but, if this is that has just recently come up, then there are
other factors that come into play. That is why I also thought perhaps a
repair might reset the defaults, and/or perhaps restore any damaged or
corrupted files that may have recently been affected in some way. Often,
suggestions can lead you to finding the problem in another manner, where you
might not have looked before, rings a bell, spurs a thought, or helps you
run across something that looks out of place or been reset somehow. It's
part of the troubleshooting process when there are unknown factors at hand.

I am glad to hear that the Quote-Fix has helped with the problem. I also
post in some Usenet groups, and the Quote-Fix is almost a must there for
some reason. That it is showing up fragmented in your sent files may not be
a problem even if you have to resend at some point, and the Quote-Fix may
correct it when sent. You might try it and see if it does. Send it to
another computer so that you can use the other OE and see what it looks like
there. Just as a test in case you do have to resend a message.

I'm sorry that I don't have any sure cure answer for you, but, hope that
something here will help.
I mentioned the OE newsgroup only because it is a dedicated group to such OE
problems, and there may be others there who are having the same problem you
are and perhaps you might find answers to your situation to more quickly or
fully resolve the issue for you. :)

Jan :)
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that's why they're so contagious.

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??????????????????

But I have. Aren't you reading my posts where I have been experimenting
with your little ditty (QuoteFix) to stop fragmenting? And it seemed to
work? I still have the freeze up on sending and I thought maybe Sandi's
cure might fix that.

What I haven't done yet is the removal of sp2 and reload oe. Sandi
indicated if I had "X-RFC2646: Format=Flowed; Original" in the properties
that it was my problem and a reload wouldn't cure anything. I returned an
group email telling her that I do indeed have it and before I get more
drastic, I thought I would see what her cure would be for that erroneous
line. She just hasn't gotten back on it yet.

I have been explaining what I have been trying through your gracious help
on a regular basis. My posts must not be getting through?

A thought. If I had the fragmenting problem and now it seems a lot of
people do, so much so that a program (QuoteFix) had to be written to
correct it, I can't help but wonder where M$ is hiding and not fixing
their own software??? Although I have complained about it in *many* of
the M$ forums. you are the only one that had a solution. :)

Glenn


Jan said:
Hi Glenn :)

As you do not mention if you have tried any of the adjustments that have
been suggested here, or if so, what the results were, nor if you tried
the Quote Fix. Thus, it is difficult to know where you are. It might be
more beneficial for you to post this part of your problem to the OE
newsgroup and see if they can advise you more fully on this particular
issue: microsoft.public.windows.inetexplorer.ie6_outlookexpress

Hope this helps.

Jan :)
Smiles are meant to be shared,
that's why they're so contagious.

Replies are posted only to the newsgroup for the benefit or other
readers.
How to make a good newsgroup post:
http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm


Go no farther than 2 lines down (or up if
ascending) to my answer to Sandi time 8:26 AM.

It is fragmented on 2 different lines on mine both
when it showed up in 'sent' and when I downloaded it
with both OE and thunderbird. That's 3 places I see
it fragmented here and I'm assuming it is there too
because thunderbird doesn't scramble things. (Yet)

Glenn

Jan Il wrote:

Hi Glenn :)

It would be very helpful if you could provide us with a link or name
of a post that you have posted to where the errant text is displayed,
so
that we can see how it looks from our perspective. Seeing it from
your end may be different than it actually looks.

What newsgroup or forum did you recently post in that this happened,
and the name and date of the subject, or the link to the post. That
would may give us more of an idea where or what caused the problem
you are seeing.

Hope this helps :)

Jan :)
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It downloaded clean but you should see it in my 'sent items'
directory. It fragmented THREE LINES and is a mess. I guess I
shouldn't care as long as it goes through clear as I don't use the
sent items that often and them they can be cleaned up. It still
clears the top screen though. Hmmm, I see the icon that was in the
sys tray is gone. Maybe it gave up.
Glenn

I can download it with both thunderbird and OE and it ISN'T
fragmented on this end. Maybe the little ditty works. Strangely
though, it IS fragmented in my 'sent items' directory. It still
clears the top screen on send though so maybe I still will have to
go through with your more radical suggestion. I'll be interested to
see if this goes through clear as I'm not even clicking the icon on
the tray. Glenn


Jan,

I have your little ditty on board and I will type enough lines to
make a paragraph. There will be no carriage returns in this
paragraph. I downloaded the recommended program and installed it.
If this sounds like drivel, you are right, I'm just trying to fill
out a paragraph. Looking at the authors illustration, this is a
common thing. I wonder why, with it being so common that although
I have described the phenomena many times on > this forum, you are
the only one to recognize it and address it?

(Paragraph) It is just sitting there in the tray doing nothing. I
can click on it and it brings up a popup that does nothing. Maybe it
works on its own and behind the lines? Here goes. [g]

Glenn


Hi Glenn :)

Here is a free little free utility called Quote Fix that does a
good job of correcting some errant text problems, especailly, in
newsgroups:
Quote Fix: - Free
http://www.linktz.com/3rd-party/OE-QuoteFix/index.html
Download
http://home.in.tum.de/~jain/dl.php?get=OE-QuoteFix

also...

Check the Tools>Options>Send
See if the "Reply to messages in the format in which they were
sent" is checked. If it is, uncheck it and see if that changes
anything. See if that makes any difference. Perhaps not, but, I
have found
that some formats work differently with some types of other
formats fo messages that I responde to, both in newsgroups and
e-mails. Hope this helps :)

Jan :)
Smiles are meant to be shared,
that's why they're so contagious.

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readers. How to make a good newsgroup post:
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Jan Il wrote:

Hi Glenn :)

Comments in-line below:



Jan Il wrote:

Hi Glenn :)

I would suggest that you uninstall the SP2 before repairing
XP:




When I get the time, I will try that. It makes sense.




Good.


How to remove Windows XP Service Pack 2 from your computer
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;875350&Product=winxp,

then

Repair XP, follow the directions to reinstall the SP2, then
immediately visit the Windows update to reinstall all the
necessary updates.




The following paragraph is an example what was happening in OE
***************************************************************

In regards the fragmentation, I have no way to know how your
posts looked



as
you did not provide a link to it. But, it could be due to

how you have your OE set up. Can you explain what you mean
by fragmented? Perhaps post a small example here so we can



see what it
is

doing? You may be able to make a simple setting adjustment to
resolve that part of the problem.



***********************************************************
Looks weird, doesn't it? This stuff started after I had used
OE for years so I doubt that a setting would have changed and
I sure never made the change. The balance of the problem that I
never bothered to spell out because a re-load should fix it
too.




Does this happen when you send an e-mail, or does it only
happen when you post to the newsgroups?



Both and to answer another helper, I run 1600 X 1200 res and
this was breaking 1/2 way across and it is NOT doing it under
thunderbird, only OE.



*******************
Running a P4 /w 2.2 G and 512M memory.

OE6 6.00.2900.2180 (XPSP_SP2_rtm.040803-2158)

(I need to put a blank line at the top.)

OK. My problems. The line above is because it often (but not
always) cuts off the first 3 words of a post. Can't find out
why. Anyone?? I have mine set up with the list of subjects on
top and the "From:
To: and Subject" window on the bottom half. Always have and
assume it is standard with most folks. When I reply to a
post, it used to just send and return me to the post I was
replying to. Now it erases the top window except for the little
squares
showing where the subjects WERE. It hangs up there until I
click a different folder (newsgroup) and then go back to my
original one (like yours) and it will list normally again
except it starts at the top again and I have to scroll down
to the post I was replying to. What has changed? I have run
6 different virus finders and none of them find anything. I
just checked and I have all the MS updates. This is a hard
thing to explain and maybe I failed but feel free
to ask me for any clarification you need and I'll try. One
friend wants me to try Firefox but I have used MS since there
was a MS and want to continue but this is driving me nuts. (I
have since
gone to thunderbird but hope to go back.)




This does sound as if there is some corruption in the program,
and hopefully the repair will correct iRestore to a date prior
to the problem? Something may have happened that can be
corrected by doing a restore. I would recommend that you try a
System Restore first and see if that does not help resolve the
problem. Here are the instructions on how to do that in case
you need them. This will undo any harmful events that may have
taken place since the last restore point. How to do a System
Restore in XP
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;EN-US;Q306084



Not being afraid to try anything and I do, System Restore has
been my savior many, many times but I tried that sometime back
when I TRIED to go back before this started and even then, I
didn't seem to go back far enough. I have been convinced for
some time a re-load was the only answer. You will note that I
said OE is working fine on the other computer but I hadn't been
able to reload it on this
one. As you remember, this correspondence is through thunderbird
until this computer is cleared of the bug.


Hope this helps :)

Jan :)
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Glenn


Hope this helps :)

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Thanks Jan. If I am reading this thing right...........

Windows XP SP2: Reinstall Windows XP SP2

It is saying with SP2, I need not change anything in the
regs, just reinstall SP2? And that will fix OE?
The fixes for SP1 sound more plausible but I DO have SP2
so that is the only thing that applys? Seems like I tried
that recently and it did nothing to stop the fragmenting
etc but I have been fighting it for so long that by now I
have forgotten what all I HAVE tried. Glenn

Jan Il wrote:

Hi Glenn :)

First off, you have XP Pro, therefore, you cannot delete
IE/OE, as it is a core part of the XP program, and deleting
any of these files will seriously damage your XP program.
But, you can disable it, or repair it. I would suggest a
repair at this point and see if that helps, as some files
may have become corrupted. I have listed information on
how to repair XP. How to Reinstall or Repair Internet
Explorer and Outlook
Express in Windows
XP
http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=318378
If you have SP2 then read the SP2 section of these
instructions:
http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=318378#XSLTH3130121123120121120120


Hope this helps :)

Jan :)
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that's why they're so contagious.

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other readers.
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A poster in another NG commented they liked Netscape
better than Thunderbird and this was my response. Perhaps
someone here could answer my reload question.

I thought Thunderbird WAS Netscape.






Thunderbird is by Mozilla:
http://texturizer.net/thunderbird/features.html


I don't like it as well as OE but if you noticed how my
posts had sentences fragmented, OE was doing that. It
also screwed up my screen each time I hit "send".

Now that I am using thunderbird, I may try to delete OE
completely and see if I can reload it in a good state..






Little recent history on my OE's. I formated the hd on my
old puter and reloaded from scratch a new win98. It is
routed together with this one. Anyway the old version of
OE that was on the 98 cd worked and through M$ updates,
brought it up to the latest version and it works
perfectly. I'm just hesitant about messing with a working xp
pro on
this puter. If I am successful in deleting OE here, I
wonder if re-running the install cd would just do a clean
reload of the missing OE or mess up something else at the
same time. None of the forums will touch that question
because they evidently don't know. ?????????????
Click to expand...
Click to expand...
Click to expand...
 
N

Noel Paton

My concern here is that Jan is responding in 76-character lines, while
Glenn seems to be generating 40-character lines

Glenn
Please try adjusting your line-length to 76 characters - let's see where
that gets us.

--
Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2005, Windows)

Nil Carborundum Illegitemi
http://www.btinternet.com/~winnoel/millsrpch.htm

http://tinyurl.com/6oztj

Please read on how to post messages to NG's

Glenn said:
??????????????????

But I have. Aren't you reading my posts where I have been experimenting
with your little ditty (QuoteFix) to stop fragmenting? And it seemed to
work? I still have the freeze up on sending and I thought maybe Sandi's
cure might fix that.

What I haven't done yet is the removal of sp2 and reload oe. Sandi
indicated if I had "X-RFC2646: Format=Flowed; Original" in the properties
that it was my problem and a reload wouldn't cure anything. I returned an
group email telling her that I do indeed have it and before I get more
drastic, I thought I would see what her cure would be for that erroneous
line. She just hasn't gotten back on it yet.

I have been explaining what I have been trying through your gracious help
on a regular basis. My posts must not be getting through?

A thought. If I had the fragmenting problem and now it seems a lot of
people do, so much so that a program (QuoteFix) had to be written to
correct it, I can't help but wonder where M$ is hiding and not fixing
their own software??? Although I have complained about it in *many* of
the M$ forums. you are the only one that had a solution. :)

Glenn


Jan said:
Hi Glenn :)

As you do not mention if you have tried any of the adjustments that have
been suggested here, or if so, what the results were, nor if you tried
the Quote Fix. Thus, it is difficult to know where you are. It might be
more beneficial for you to post this part of your problem to the OE
newsgroup and see if they can advise you more fully on this particular
issue: microsoft.public.windows.inetexplorer.ie6_outlookexpress

Hope this helps.

Jan :)
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Go no farther than 2 lines down (or up if
ascending) to my answer to Sandi time 8:26 AM.

It is fragmented on 2 different lines on mine both
when it showed up in 'sent' and when I downloaded it
with both OE and thunderbird. That's 3 places I see
it fragmented here and I'm assuming it is there too
because thunderbird doesn't scramble things. (Yet)

Glenn

Jan Il wrote:

Hi Glenn :)

It would be very helpful if you could provide us with a link or name
of a post that you have posted to where the errant text is displayed,
so
that we can see how it looks from our perspective. Seeing it from
your end may be different than it actually looks.

What newsgroup or forum did you recently post in that this happened,
and the name and date of the subject, or the link to the post. That
would may give us more of an idea where or what caused the problem
you are seeing.

Hope this helps :)

Jan :)
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that's why they're so contagious.

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readers. How to make a good newsgroup post:
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It downloaded clean but you should see it in my 'sent items'
directory. It fragmented THREE LINES and is a mess. I guess I
shouldn't care as long as it goes through clear as I don't use the
sent items that often and them they can be cleaned up. It still
clears the top screen though. Hmmm, I see the icon that was in the
sys tray is gone. Maybe it gave up.
Glenn

I can download it with both thunderbird and OE and it ISN'T
fragmented on this end. Maybe the little ditty works. Strangely
though, it IS fragmented in my 'sent items' directory. It still
clears the top screen on send though so maybe I still will have to
go through with your more radical suggestion. I'll be interested to
see if this goes through clear as I'm not even clicking the icon on
the tray. Glenn


Jan,

I have your little ditty on board and I will type enough lines to
make a paragraph. There will be no carriage returns in this
paragraph. I downloaded the recommended program and installed it.
If this sounds like drivel, you are right, I'm just trying to fill
out a paragraph. Looking at the authors illustration, this is a
common thing. I wonder why, with it being so common that although
I have described the phenomena many times on > this forum, you are
the only one to recognize it and address it?

(Paragraph) It is just sitting there in the tray doing nothing. I
can click on it and it brings up a popup that does nothing. Maybe it
works on its own and behind the lines? Here goes. [g]

Glenn


Hi Glenn :)

Here is a free little free utility called Quote Fix that does a
good job of correcting some errant text problems, especailly, in
newsgroups:
Quote Fix: - Free
http://www.linktz.com/3rd-party/OE-QuoteFix/index.html
Download
http://home.in.tum.de/~jain/dl.php?get=OE-QuoteFix

also...

Check the Tools>Options>Send
See if the "Reply to messages in the format in which they were
sent" is checked. If it is, uncheck it and see if that changes
anything. See if that makes any difference. Perhaps not, but, I
have found
that some formats work differently with some types of other
formats fo messages that I responde to, both in newsgroups and
e-mails. Hope this helps :)

Jan :)
Smiles are meant to be shared,
that's why they're so contagious.

Replies are posted only to the newsgroup for the benefit or other
readers. How to make a good newsgroup post:
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Jan Il wrote:

Hi Glenn :)

Comments in-line below:



Jan Il wrote:

Hi Glenn :)

I would suggest that you uninstall the SP2 before repairing
XP:




When I get the time, I will try that. It makes sense.




Good.


How to remove Windows XP Service Pack 2 from your computer
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;875350&Product=winxp,

then

Repair XP, follow the directions to reinstall the SP2, then
immediately visit the Windows update to reinstall all the
necessary updates.




The following paragraph is an example what was happening in OE
***************************************************************

In regards the fragmentation, I have no way to know how your
posts looked



as
you did not provide a link to it. But, it could be due to

how you have your OE set up. Can you explain what you mean
by fragmented? Perhaps post a small example here so we can



see what it
is

doing? You may be able to make a simple setting adjustment to
resolve that part of the problem.



***********************************************************
Looks weird, doesn't it? This stuff started after I had used
OE for years so I doubt that a setting would have changed and
I sure never made the change. The balance of the problem that I
never bothered to spell out because a re-load should fix it
too.




Does this happen when you send an e-mail, or does it only
happen when you post to the newsgroups?



Both and to answer another helper, I run 1600 X 1200 res and
this was breaking 1/2 way across and it is NOT doing it under
thunderbird, only OE.



*******************
Running a P4 /w 2.2 G and 512M memory.

OE6 6.00.2900.2180 (XPSP_SP2_rtm.040803-2158)

(I need to put a blank line at the top.)

OK. My problems. The line above is because it often (but not
always) cuts off the first 3 words of a post. Can't find out
why. Anyone?? I have mine set up with the list of subjects on
top and the "From:
To: and Subject" window on the bottom half. Always have and
assume it is standard with most folks. When I reply to a
post, it used to just send and return me to the post I was
replying to. Now it erases the top window except for the little
squares
showing where the subjects WERE. It hangs up there until I
click a different folder (newsgroup) and then go back to my
original one (like yours) and it will list normally again
except it starts at the top again and I have to scroll down
to the post I was replying to. What has changed? I have run
6 different virus finders and none of them find anything. I
just checked and I have all the MS updates. This is a hard
thing to explain and maybe I failed but feel free
to ask me for any clarification you need and I'll try. One
friend wants me to try Firefox but I have used MS since there
was a MS and want to continue but this is driving me nuts. (I
have since
gone to thunderbird but hope to go back.)




This does sound as if there is some corruption in the program,
and hopefully the repair will correct iRestore to a date prior
to the problem? Something may have happened that can be
corrected by doing a restore. I would recommend that you try a
System Restore first and see if that does not help resolve the
problem. Here are the instructions on how to do that in case
you need them. This will undo any harmful events that may have
taken place since the last restore point. How to do a System
Restore in XP
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;EN-US;Q306084



Not being afraid to try anything and I do, System Restore has
been my savior many, many times but I tried that sometime back
when I TRIED to go back before this started and even then, I
didn't seem to go back far enough. I have been convinced for
some time a re-load was the only answer. You will note that I
said OE is working fine on the other computer but I hadn't been
able to reload it on this
one. As you remember, this correspondence is through thunderbird
until this computer is cleared of the bug.


Hope this helps :)

Jan :)
Smiles are meant to be shared,
that's why they're so contagious.

Replies are posted only to the newsgroup for the benefit or
other readers.
How to make a good newsgroup post:
http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm




Glenn


Hope this helps :)

Jan :)
Smiles are meant to be shared,
that's why they're so contagious.

Replies are posted only to the newsgroup for the benefit or
other readers.
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Thanks Jan. If I am reading this thing right...........

Windows XP SP2: Reinstall Windows XP SP2

It is saying with SP2, I need not change anything in the
regs, just reinstall SP2? And that will fix OE?
The fixes for SP1 sound more plausible but I DO have SP2
so that is the only thing that applys? Seems like I tried
that recently and it did nothing to stop the fragmenting
etc but I have been fighting it for so long that by now I
have forgotten what all I HAVE tried. Glenn

Jan Il wrote:

Hi Glenn :)

First off, you have XP Pro, therefore, you cannot delete
IE/OE, as it is a core part of the XP program, and deleting
any of these files will seriously damage your XP program.
But, you can disable it, or repair it. I would suggest a
repair at this point and see if that helps, as some files
may have become corrupted. I have listed information on
how to repair XP. How to Reinstall or Repair Internet
Explorer and Outlook
Express in Windows
XP
http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=318378
If you have SP2 then read the SP2 section of these
instructions:
http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=318378#XSLTH3130121123120121120120


Hope this helps :)

Jan :)
Smiles are meant to be shared,
that's why they're so contagious.

Replies are posted only to the newsgroup for the benefit or
other readers.
How to make a good newsgroup post:
http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm


A poster in another NG commented they liked Netscape
better than Thunderbird and this was my response. Perhaps
someone here could answer my reload question.

I thought Thunderbird WAS Netscape.






Thunderbird is by Mozilla:
http://texturizer.net/thunderbird/features.html


I don't like it as well as OE but if you noticed how my
posts had sentences fragmented, OE was doing that. It
also screwed up my screen each time I hit "send".

Now that I am using thunderbird, I may try to delete OE
completely and see if I can reload it in a good state..






Little recent history on my OE's. I formated the hd on my
old puter and reloaded from scratch a new win98. It is
routed together with this one. Anyway the old version of
OE that was on the 98 cd worked and through M$ updates,
brought it up to the latest version and it works
perfectly. I'm just hesitant about messing with a working xp
pro on
this puter. If I am successful in deleting OE here, I
wonder if re-running the install cd would just do a clean
reload of the missing OE or mess up something else at the
same time. None of the forums will touch that question
because they evidently don't know. ?????????????
Click to expand...
Click to expand...
Click to expand...
 
R

Robert Aldwinckle

Glenn said:
Hi Sandi,

Just for you this is in OE.
Click to expand...
....


(intended example snipped)


Your quoting of Sandi's reply is a good demonstration
of an explicable symptom.

Here is how you quoted some of it:




Here is how that portion could have been quoted:

The quoting problem of which you speak is fixed in XPSP2... but it is
dependent on using the correct encoding option when composing replies, and
also the encoding of the message to which you are replying - repairing OE/IE
will make absolutely no difference in such circumstances UNLESS you are
running XPSP2 and the following line does not appear in your headers, and
you are set up properly:

X-RFC2646: Format=Flowed; Original
Click to expand...
</quote>


You are both using Format=Flowed. Notice that her lines all
end with a space. That's what makes Format=Flowed work.
Your quotes should have reflowed her paragraph according
to your linesize, thus avoiding any possibility of the spillovers
which apparently happened.

It seems that there is more than just spillovers which are
happening above but an inference from this example
is that her linesize is bigger than yours (e.g. 76 vs 72)
and your Format=Flowed is either not working properly
or being prevented from working by something
which is stripping all trailing spaces.

Format=Flowed treats a line which does not have a trailing
space as a special line which should not be reflowed.
But even if you are not reflowing you may still be chopping
according to your linesize. I suspect that this will explain
at least the examples of single-word spillover.


Normally I use a linesize of 132 (the maximum that OE allows)
and do my own formatting. With Format=Flowed I now have to
also re-edit the quotes I make of Format=Flowed quotes because
those trailing spaces cause their paragraphs to be reflowed to my
linesize. The simplest way that I have found to do this is before
sending a message to the Outbox I press Ctrl-a,Ctrl-c. I also ensure
that Working Offline is set (e.g. press Alt-F,W if necessary).
Then if I find that my quotes have been reflowed I can just replace
the whole thing with a Ctrl-v paste.

BTW because of editing my posts will contain a mix of flowable
lines. I try to remember to add trailing spaces but know that
often I end up hitting Enter without adding one. So far, I haven't
had any serious complaints. The only real problem I have is
occasionally lapsing and not re-pasting the post when editing
the final result in the Outbox, thus ending up with somebody's
quote reflowed to my 132 character linesize.


FYI

Robert Aldwinckle
---
 
G

Glenn

Noel Paton said:
My concern here is that Jan is responding in 76-character lines,
while Glenn seems to be generating 40-character lines

Glenn
Please try adjusting your line-length to 76 characters - let's see
where that gets us.

(sniped, the thing was getting out of hand)
Click to expand...

Just looked and my OE IS set for 76 characters. I MAY have set it shorter
sometime back to see if limiting the length would help the wrap around.
You
may have seen that though I just tried it back then and it didn't help so
I
set it back to the 78.

Thanks for looking though. Someday we are going to solve this thing. I
just haven't had the time to do it but the dumping of sp2 and reloading OE
still has to be the answer I have thought for months of fiddling with this
thing. As you noticed, I even went to thunderbird in flustration.

Glenn
 
G

Glenn

Robert Aldwinckle said:
...


(intended example snipped)


Your quoting of Sandi's reply is a good demonstration
of an explicable symptom.

Here is how you quoted some of it:
Click to expand...

I *think* you know what I was doing but I'm not sure. The paragraph that I
received was as you show it below. I receive everything normal. It is just
my *sending* that screws it up. I simply deliberately screwed up her
paragraph to show what it would have looked like if I had typed it and OE
screwed it up in the send.

Every 'send' I do seems to send ok but during the send, is I assume, where
things screw up. Reviewing back and you will see that on every send, the
top portion of the screen (subject section) goes blank and the computer
freezes there. Hitting *another* directory under 'local folders' releases
it, then I can go back to the, in this case, this newsgroup but it goes back
to the top and I have to scroll back down to the post I was responding to.
It didn't used to be that way and OE on my other computer doesn't do that so
something changed.

As far as 'X-RFC2646: Format=Flowed; Original' is concerned, if we are all
using it, what's the big deal and why did it even come up? If it is
something new, did one of those "updates" I naively installed put it in
there and if so, maybe someone can tell us which one it is so we can delete
it

Confused, Glenn
 
B

Bruce Hagen

Just a thought. If you are using a resolution that is lower than your
monitor is adjusted for, you will get broken lines. Try kicking it up one
notch and see what happens.
 
G

Glenn

Thank you for the input.

I have a 19" monitor and I run 1600 X 1200 resolution.

I have used that res for the last couple years and
this thing just started about 6 - 8 months ago. I
have thunderbird running and setup almost to my
satisfaction now so if I screw things up too bad
using the suggested reload, I have a fall back
system. Before I start the change I will make a new
'system restore' check point so I can back out
anything too nasty.

Glenn
 
G

Glenn

No.

I'm still waiting on the explanation of what the
"X-RFC2646: Format=Flowed; Original" is and what it
has to do with me???

Glenn
 
G

Glenn

Sandi Hardmeier - MVP said:
Try this.

Go to OE tools, options, send (news plain text send settings). Select MIME
quoted printable and test.
Click to expand...

OK, I selected it and it wasn't before. I get the same results on my email
posts also and HTML doesn't even have the MIME option. Anyway, here it
comes. You guys have been extremely helpful in trying all sorts of cures
but I think it boils down to Jan's remove the darned thing and reload it.
It's a nice rainy day here, it's nice because we were needing the rain, so I
may get with it this afternoon. I'm a die hard, I still like OE better than
thunderbird. :)

Glenn
 
G

Glenn

Sandi Hardmeier - MVP said:
Try this.

Go to OE tools, options, send (news plain text send settings). Select MIME
quoted printable and test.
Click to expand...

OK, I selected it and it wasn't before. I get the same results on my email
posts also and HTML doesn't even have the MIME option. Anyway, here it
comes. You guys have been extremely helpful in trying all sorts of cures
but I think it boils down to Jan's remove the darned thing and reload it.
It's a nice rainy day here, it's nice because we were needing the rain, so I
may get with it this afternoon. I'm a die hard, I still like OE better than
thunderbird. :)

Glenn


This is interesting. It isn't fragmented and I didn't use the version with
the OE-QuoteFix. That may have been the problem. (For this one bug).
Thank You.

I have always used HTML for my personal posts and the HTML doesn't seem to
have that option. Bug 2.

Bug 3. It still clears the subject window and hangs up there although it is
apparently sending the message. Click *any* other directory in Local
Folders and then go back to the one you sent from and although it starts at
the top of the messages, you can scrawl down to where you were before the
'send'.

Glenn
 
G

Glenn

A test. I reloaded sp2 again as a last resort. This will tell the story.

I considered del'ing sp2 but the list of warnings of things it would screw
up talked me out of it so I'm trying this again. The reload took a long
time and this is a fairly fast machine so maybe it fixed something. OK,
here goes. [g]

Glenn
 
N

Noel Paton

Glenn - there IS NO SP2 for win9x!!
what on earth are you trying to do?

--
Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2005, Windows)

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http://www.btinternet.com/~winnoel/millsrpch.htm

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A test. I reloaded sp2 again as a last resort. This will tell the story.

I considered del'ing sp2 but the list of warnings of things it would screw
up talked me out of it so I'm trying this again. The reload took a long
time and this is a fairly fast machine so maybe it fixed something. OK,
here goes. [g]

Glenn
 
G

Glenn

Where in the world did that come from? This is on a
XP Pro. The OE.6 something on the win98 works just
fine as it USED to on this machine.
 
S

Sandi Hardmeier - MVP

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